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January 3, 2006
By: Kevin Drum

CRACKS IN THE EDIFICE....I'm still catching up on the Jack Abramoff plea deal, but I thought I should at least pass along this analysis from CREW:

The information also refers to three unnamed co-conspirators: Representative #1 and Staffers A and B. Representative #1 refers to Rep. Bob Ney (R-OH), Staffer A is likely Tony Rudy, former Deputy Chief of Staff to Rep. Tom DeLay (R-TX) and Staffer B is Neil Volz, former Chief of Staff to Bob Ney.

Will Rudy and Volz crack too? Wait and see!

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"the information states that Abramoff defrauded the Mississippi Choctaw tribe, the Louisiana Coushatta tribe, the Michigan Saginaw Chippewa tribe, and the Texas Tigua tribe"

What a shame how the white man continues to defraud and mistreat Native Americans just as they did in the last century - that's the real story. Corruption in Washington is old news.

Posted by: webdonkey on January 3, 2006 at 7:37 PM | PERMALINK

Gambling corrupts everything it touches. I will be interested in finding out if that gang-land hit in Florida will also implicate the likes of unindicted (yet) Congressmen. I think DeLay has really brought the GOP to these new lows. What an embarrassment. These folks wanted the rank and file to believe they were doing great things for the party, when in fact enriching themselves and families seems to be the central story. Only the truly corrupt are on board now. The GOP needs a serious house-cleaning.

Posted by: Sparko on January 3, 2006 at 8:03 PM | PERMALINK

The information also refers to three unnamed co-conspirators: Representative #1 and Staffers A and B. Representative #1 refers to Rep. Bob Ney (R-OH), Staffer A is likely Tony Rudy, former Deputy Chief of Staff to Rep. Tom DeLay (R-TX) and Staffer B is Neil Volz, former Chief of Staff to Bob Ney.

*Snicker*
How come you didn't add Byron Dorgan who received money from Abramoff for voting on behalf of Indian tribes?
How come you also didn't add Harry Reid for voting on behalf of Indian tribes after receiving money from Abramoff as reported in this Newsmax article? You wouldn't just be another partisan liberal democrat who's trying to hide the fact Abramoff gave money to both Democrats and Republicans right?

Posted by: Al on January 3, 2006 at 8:03 PM | PERMALINK

Screw the Indian tribes at home and the Iraqis abroad.

In other words, screw the brown man everywhere. That's the Republican mantra.

Posted by: lib on January 3, 2006 at 8:03 PM | PERMALINK

Wow! Al got his talking points just in time.

Posted by: lib on January 3, 2006 at 8:05 PM | PERMALINK

Guy posing as Al: you truly are one of the most pathetic shills still working in Fantasy. Wow. The Democrats, thanks to big money GOP types, had very little influence to trade. You can't get by with the MSM "moral equialency" tirade. There just isn't any. Abramoff=DeLay and GOP. He is a "Pioneer." He did try to spread some manure on Dems in case of emergency. But he is singing like a canary.

Posted by: Sparko on January 3, 2006 at 8:08 PM | PERMALINK

Byron Dorgan never received mony from Abramoff.

He did receive money from Indian tribes, at least one of which had also hired Abramoff.

Posted by: Joe Buck on January 3, 2006 at 8:12 PM | PERMALINK

So far today I've heard an NPR report and read an AP story that both are spinning hard for the Republicans.

Both are attempting to soften the impact on Republicans that the AbramoffGate scandal should have by trying to claim that "both sides took money" and so are guilty. But not a single reporter has tried to put numbers behind this...like how many republicans vs. dems were on the payroll. Or how many House members wives?

In the AP story, it was spun as Republicans suffering more, *potentially*, because "theyre in the majority"...purely statistical chance. What a friggin' joke! Imagine if it were a Dem scandal...the headlines would be all about "corrupt Dems" and a "culture of corruption" and all.

Man, they just have way too much power and influence over things right now.

And the frustration from this makes me feel, and sound, shrill and desparate...just what the opposition wants.

And to make it clear to all the "Al"-type idiots....whoever took Abramoff money should clear out of congress...from both parties. I'm not going to defend this kind of thing.

Let's see what things look like after that, eh smartass...

All of them, RESIGN! Right, Al...

Posted by: Morpholino on January 3, 2006 at 8:15 PM | PERMALINK

Follow the trail, root 'em out, round 'em up. I vote Republican, but there's no reason to put up with this sort of thing. If it hits more Republicans than Democrats, well, boo hoo, but we're better off with the corrupt out of office than in it. (Just remember, keep at it!)

Posted by: Avatar on January 3, 2006 at 8:23 PM | PERMALINK

Al, Harry Reid represent Nevada. Nevada - home of Las Vegas. Of course he wants to restrict gambling elsewhere - because that is what his constituents want!

Posted by: VOR on January 3, 2006 at 8:24 PM | PERMALINK


Al, dear, try to become better informed before commenting.

It doesn't reflect well on the Republicans.

Yo Granny

Posted by: v on January 3, 2006 at 8:25 PM | PERMALINK

In other words, screw the brown man everywhere. That's the Republican mantra.

Don't forget the poor, gay and non-christian.

Posted by: Gerald on January 3, 2006 at 8:26 PM | PERMALINK

Keep an eye on a DOJ official named Alice Fisher. She is a GOP loyalist, and is the boss of the attorney who is handling the Abramoff plea deal. Jane Hamsher at Firedoglake is all over this....

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Alice_S._Fisher

Posted by: ferdinand the adequate on January 3, 2006 at 8:28 PM | PERMALINK

How come you also didn't add Harry Reid for voting on behalf of Indian tribes after receiving money from Abramoff as reported in this Newsmax article?
Posted by: Al on January 3, 2006 at 8:03 PM | PERMALINK

Because Harry Reid lives in Nevada, and has a history of helping Indian gambling interests you twit.

Republican Culture of Corruption clearly extends to the winger trolls and shills who post talking points and lies here to further the goals of their masters.

Posted by: Osama_Been_Forgotten on January 3, 2006 at 8:33 PM | PERMALINK

Don't forget the poor, gay and non-christian.
Posted by: Gerald on January 3, 2006 at 8:26 PM | PERMALINK

Actually, brown-ness takes precidence.

Witness the "ethnic cleansing" of Iraqi Christians from Kurdistan, all with nary a peep of protest from our "christian" president.

Posted by: Osama_Been_Forgotten on January 3, 2006 at 8:35 PM | PERMALINK

Tom DeLay is the big question. If he were to be convicted, it implicates the entire MO of the Republican congress.

Posted by: little ole jim from red country on January 3, 2006 at 8:39 PM | PERMALINK

Morpholino: Exactly right. I truly disrespect reporters who writes such rubbish. That's so insulting it should make Democrats angry.

How many folks have actually noticed that there has been no Watergate or Iran-Contra on the democratic side? That's no accident. The republicans have tried so hard, demanding and getting special prosecutors to investigate Carter and Clinton.

The result? Web Hubbell nabbed for over-billing law clients. Henry Cisneros nabbed for understating how much money he gave some woman. Whats the common denominator here? Actions not related to their government service in the Clinton administration.

OTOH, 27 Iran-Contra felony convictions directly related to government service on behalf of Reagan, including some of the top guys convicted by juries. Also, 25 Watergate convictions directly related to government service on behalf of Nixon, including some of the top guys convicted by juries.

By my count, thats a score of 52-0 or 52-2, depending on whether you want to include non-government junk. I may have forgotten somebody, but the score is quite lopsided.

Will be more lopsided by the time we are finished with George W. Hate to think of what would happen if republicans did not control both houses.

This is indicative of what kind of person is able to filter up to the leadership positions of these two political parties.

Posted by: little ole jim from red country on January 3, 2006 at 8:56 PM | PERMALINK

Hey, it wasn't a blow job, so what's the big deal?

Posted by: tomeck on January 3, 2006 at 9:11 PM | PERMALINK

i checked on Alice Fisher after Ferdinand's comment. We gotto watch out here, Abramoff might have gotten a soft deal, and Delay might never get touched or not hurt much. Basically, this whole thing could be a shill.
"Leahy was also concerned about "reports that she has had ties to Congressman Tom DeLays defense team" and "also [wanted] to know what steps she [intended] to take to avoid a conflict of interest in the Departments investigation of lobbyist Jack Abramoff and possibly Mr. DeLay."

Posted by: operation_take_back on January 3, 2006 at 9:34 PM | PERMALINK

Al, Al, Al... (or, notAl, as the case may be) the money given "on the books" to congresscritters is peanuts. As Josh Marshall writes (referencing, this WaPo article), the real story is the slush fund money that's secretly funneled back into the machine.

Posted by: KarenJG on January 3, 2006 at 9:50 PM | PERMALINK

The information also refers to three unnamed co-conspirators: Representative #1 and Staffers A and B. Representative #1 refers to Rep. Bob Ney (R-OH), Staffer A is likely Tony Rudy, former Deputy Chief of Staff to Rep. Tom DeLay (R-TX) and Staffer B is Neil Volz, former Chief of Staff to Bob Ney.

So to recap, the primary figures tangled up in this legal web are as follows:

1. Jack Abramoff (former College Republican National Committee chair)
2. Ralph Reed (former College Republican National Committee executive director)
3. Michael Scanlon, former aide to Rep. Tom Delay (Republican, Texas)
4. Grover Norquist (former College Republican National Committee executive director)
5. Rep. Bob Ney (Republican, Ohio)
6. Tony Rudy, former Deputy Chief of Staff to Rep. Tom DeLay (Republican, Texas)
7. Neil Volz, former Chief of Staff to Rep. Bob Ney (Republican, Ohio)

Yep, sure sounds like a bipartisan scandal to me--as the mainstream media is now eagerly insisting.

Posted by: Moonlight on January 3, 2006 at 10:52 PM | PERMALINK

"fair and balanced" seems to have spread like some kind of virus into other "news"/propaganda agencies.

I wonder if we'll ever find out how much federal government money has gone into the pockets of "journalists".

Posted by: MarkH on January 3, 2006 at 11:33 PM | PERMALINK

Bizarre Al Faker: What kind of lame fuck would take on the persona of a dead blog commenter?

Psycho much?

Do you sit at the computer wearing an Al wig, murmuring to yourself? Or do you have a stuffed Al in the rocking chair in the corner to whom you coo sweetly?

You'll never fit into normal society at this rate, much less get kissed by a girl.

Posted by: word on January 3, 2006 at 11:50 PM | PERMALINK

Gambling corrupts everything it touches.
=
That statement needs to be corrected. Cons corrupt everything they touch.
Better yet, neo-cons lead to cronyism, cronyism leads morons to follow morons and the leaders, liars, swindle everyone.

To bad there are so many that follow one party only. What a bunch of numbskulls.

Vote the best person not your emotions.
Vote the best person not on one or two issues.
Vote the best person not what someone else tells you to do.

Posted by: Ken on January 4, 2006 at 12:50 AM | PERMALINK

sorry, webdonkey, white men defrauding natives is a much older story than corruption in Washington, it predates Washington by at least 200 years.

Posted by: northzax on January 4, 2006 at 1:34 AM | PERMALINK

This is just criminalizing kickbacks.

Posted by: Phobos Deimos on January 4, 2006 at 2:07 AM | PERMALINK

Juan Cole has an interesting posting today regarding the original investigation by the FBI - They were looking into transfers of money to outpost settlements in Isreal. Money was being funded for weapons and "security" for settlers in the West Bank - The FBI discovered that money from Indian bands were being sent to Isreal - The Native American bands were furious when they learned that their money was used to fight the Palastinians.

Posted by: thethirdPaul on January 4, 2006 at 9:03 AM | PERMALINK

About two-thirds of the more than $4.4 million in political donations from Abramoff, his clients and associates since 1998 went to Republicans, according to records compiled by the Center for Responsive Politics, a campaign-finance watchdog group. A search of Federal Election Commission records since 1998 found no personal donations from Abramoff to Democrats.

So much for the predictions of the resident trolls that this would hurt the Democrats as much as the Republicans.

Hardee har har!

Posted by: Advocate for God on January 4, 2006 at 9:30 AM | PERMALINK

I had always thought that Bush and the Republicans were talking up "bipartisanship", but it turns out that they were actually promising and delivering the principle of "buy-partisanship".

Posted by: N.Wells on January 4, 2006 at 10:05 AM | PERMALINK

Good one, N.Wells!

Posted by: Advocate for God on January 4, 2006 at 10:23 AM | PERMALINK

The one person, even more than Delay, whom I want to see nailed is Grover Norquist. For years I'd thought that Norquist was simply some weenie with an ideological bee up his bonnet. (Obviously, I didn't read up on him much.) Now, I find he's just a long line of Republican trained hacks. He's behind the election of so many of these bozos who have ruined the country. That old mix of mony, mony, and sanctimony.

Posted by: Jeffrey Davis on January 4, 2006 at 11:09 AM | PERMALINK

"Will Rudy and Volz crack too?"

Why would they get the opportunity? Once you have Sammy the Bull on the stand, who needs small fry? Let them go do their time.

The Republicans may suck gas on this twice: First, right now. Second, when the lame-ass press figures out this is All GOP, All the Time.

This guy Al is such a pathetic masturbater that I hate to give him any more air time. But I have to ask Al two questions:

1. Do you think The K Street Project was a bipartisan scandal?
2. Didn't your mom ever tell you to keep semen out of your eyes? THAT's how it causes blindness, Dude.

Posted by: Steve High on January 4, 2006 at 12:14 PM | PERMALINK

Is it true that Reid is tainted by this stuff? I'd like to believe not...

Posted by: Neil' on January 4, 2006 at 1:36 PM | PERMALINK

Tribal Clients And Associates Of Jack Abramoff Have Contributed Over $3.1 Million To Democrat Party Interests Between 1997 And 2004. (Campaign Finance Analysis Project Website, www.campaignfinanceanalysisproject.com, Accessed December 2005; Political Money Line Website, www.tray.com, Accessed December 2005)

National Democrat Party Affiliated Committees Received Over $1.2 Million From Indian Tribe Clients And Lobbying Associates Of Jack Abramoff. (Campaign Finance Analysis Project Website, www.campaignfinanceanalysisproject.com, Accessed December 7, 2005; Political Money Line Website, www.tray.com, Accessed December 7, 2005; Internal Revenue Service Website, www.irs.gov, Accessed April 21, 2005)

The Democrat Senatorial Campaign Committee (DSCC) Received Over $430,000
The Democrat Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) Received Over $629,000
The Democrat National Committee (DNC) Received Over $177,000

Incumbent Senate Democrat-Affiliated Campaign And Leadership Committees Received Over $729,000 From Indian Tribe Clients And Lobbying Associates Of Jack Abramoff*. (Campaign Finance Analysis Project Website, www.campaignfinanceanalysisproject.com, Accessed December 7, 2005; Political Money Line Website, www.tray.com, Accessed December 7, 2005; Internal Revenue Service Website, www.irs.gov, Accessed April 21, 2005)

40 Of The 45 Members Of The Senate Democrat Caucus:

Senator Max Baucus (D-MT) Received At Least $22,500
Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN) Received At Least $6,500
Senator Joseph Biden (D-DE) Received At Least $1,250
Senator Jeff Bingaman (D-NM) Received At Least $2,000
Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA) Received At Least $20,250
Senator Maria Cantwell (D-WA) Received At Least $21,765
Senator Tom Carper (D-DE) Received At Least $7,500
Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) Received At Least $12,950
Senator Kent Conrad (D-ND) Received At Least $8,000
Senator Jon Corzine (D-NJ) Received At Least $7,500
Senator Chris Dodd (D-CT) Received At Least $14,792
Senator Byron Dorgan (D-ND) Received At Least $79,300
Senator Dick Durbin (D-IL) Received At Least $14,000
Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) Received At Least $2,000
Senator Russ Feingold (D-WI) Received At Least $1,250
Senator Tom Harkin (D-IA) Received At Least $45,750
Senator Daniel Inouye (D-HI) Received At Least $9,000
Senator Jim Jeffords (I-VT) Received At Least $2,000
Senator Tim Johnson (D-SD) Received At Least $14,250
Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA) Received At Least $3,300
Senator John Kerry (D-MA) Received At Least $98,550
Senator Mary Landrieu (D-LA) Received At Least $28,000
Senator Pat Leahy (D-VT) Received At Least $4,000
Senator Carl Levin (D-MI) Received At Least $6,000
Senator Joe Lieberman (D-CT) Received At Least $29,830
Senator Blanche Lincoln (D-AR) Received At Least $14,891
Senator Barbara Mikulski (D-MD) Received At Least $10,550
Senator Patty Murray (D-WA) Received At Least $78,991
Senator Bill Nelson (D-FL) Received At Least $20,168
Senator Ben Nelson (D-NE) Received At Least $5,200
Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) Received At Least $7,500
Senator Mark Pryor (D-AR) Received At Least $2,300
Senator Jack Reed (D-RI) Received At Least $3,500
Senator Harry Reid (D-NV) Received At Least $68,941
Senator John Rockefeller (D-WV) Received At Least $4,000
Senator Ken Salazar (D-CO) Received At Least $4,500
Senator Paul Sarbanes (D-MD) Received At Least $4,300
Senator Chuck Schumer (D-NY) Received At Least $29,550
Senator Debbie Stabenow (D-MI) Received At Least $6,250
Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR) Received At Least $6,250


Nothing to see here, move on.....

Posted by: Innocent Dems on January 4, 2006 at 9:55 PM | PERMALINK

Nothing to see here, move on.....

But, nothing from Abramoff directly.

On the other hand, the GOP is rife with members who received direct payments from the criminal himself (the tribes were not accused of wrongdoing, so it is unclear why receiving money from them matters) as well as the criminal's clients.

So, there's plenty of disingenuity in your post to see, but we can move on because it's simply typical conservative hypocrisy, defamation, and apple-to-orange comparative logic.

Posted by: More Ethical Dems on January 5, 2006 at 5:27 PM | PERMALINK

Ah yes, I see. Then let's apply it evenly.

So Abramoff must have "bribed" Republicans with those whopping $1000, and $2000 checks he wrote. Perhaps he even bought Bush with his $2000 direct donation in 2004 (Bush had raised $258,000,000+ dollars for the last election).

Since only direct contributions count, of course.

That being said, there is no criminal act in merely accepting campaign contributions.

So what are the crimes here exclusive to Republicans again, and why are the Dems frantically giving away/back set amounts of money they can attribute directly to Abramoff and his friends, groups, and associates?

Because you know damn well contributions count, even if it was his wife, dog, lobbying associates, or whatever -- and the Democrats damn well know this, too. So does the press. Hence, their actions.

The day you start trying to count contributions only by direct checks is the day you admit how far you need to reach, what specific sematic guidelines you need to apply, and the desperation which which you approach political discourse in the hopes of brandishing the opposition as "the only ones wrong."

The Dems are filthy, filthy dirty in this if the Republicans are. You can try to limit the talk to just checks directly from Abramoff and just during specific timelines in order to try and apply it to just GOP members, but it's a VERY desperate and OBVIOUSLY desperate attempt.

That cracking you here is your glass house crumbling all around you.

Don't worry. Both sides will have this story adequately buried within weeks. This is one of those historic examples of how to bring elected Republicans and Democrats together to get something done: bury their mutual dirt. I guarantee you haven't seen in a long time the kind of cross-party cooperation you will see in the coming weeks.

Posted by: Innocent Dems on January 5, 2006 at 5:56 PM | PERMALINK




 

 

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