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January 6, 2006
By: Kevin Drum

DUKE UNPLUGGED....This is too rich. According to Time, disgraced Republican congressman Duke Cunningham "wore a wire at some point during the short interval between the moment he began cooperating with the feds and the announcement of his guilty plea on Nov. 28." And of course there's this:

The identity of those with whom the San Diego congressman met while wearing the wire remains unclear, and is the source of furious and nervous speculation by congressional Republicans.

As well it should be. It just makes all our liberal hearts go pitty pat, doesn't it?

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My god! Can schadenfreude kill you?

Posted by: theorajones on January 6, 2006 at 4:06 PM | PERMALINK

Whatever happened to wearing a wire, anyway?

How hard would it be for a liberal to get a job with a coal industry lobbying firm, set up a meeting with Mitch McConnell (or anyone), and record the following conversation:

Lobbyist: So Mitch, you remember those donations, right?
McConnell: Yep, much obliged.
Lobbyist: So, we won't have to worry about enforcement of that pesky law, right?
McConnell: Absolutely not.
Lobbyist: Oh snap! p0wn3d!

Posted by: Cryptic Ned on January 6, 2006 at 4:08 PM | PERMALINK

tee hee. snicker snicker.

Posted by: cleek on January 6, 2006 at 4:10 PM | PERMALINK

Check JackmeAbramoff's jacket

Posted by: apeman on January 6, 2006 at 4:11 PM | PERMALINK

Good luck selling to the people in the Navy town of San Diego that the first ace pilot from Viet Nam era is a swindler and a crook.

Posted by: tbrosz on January 6, 2006 at 4:13 PM | PERMALINK

"Not in the face, okay? You give me that? Huh? Keep my eyes?"

Posted by: Felix Deutsch on January 6, 2006 at 4:14 PM | PERMALINK

I so love this fake tbrosz.

Posted by: shortstop on January 6, 2006 at 4:15 PM | PERMALINK

Well, if he was such a ####-hot aviator and officer, he should have at least made Captain. What a loser.

Posted by: Heater on January 6, 2006 at 4:16 PM | PERMALINK

Poor repubilcants nobody is letting them brake the law anymore how unfair! I can't wait to see the spin machine on this with actual voices on tapes.

Posted by: Jeremy on January 6, 2006 at 4:20 PM | PERMALINK

I love this- the wingnuts should be happy- I thought they were all fired up about spying on people to protect america-

tbrosz-Good luck selling to the people in the Navy town of San Diego that the first ace pilot from Viet Nam era is a swindler and a crook.

Not so hard when he pleaded guilty and cried for forgiveness!

Posted by: jc on January 6, 2006 at 4:21 PM | PERMALINK

This corruption scandal has a disturbing lack of blowjobs. Why is the media picking up on it? I remember when corruption scandals had blowjobs, interns, and way lower unemployment

Posted by: JamesP on January 6, 2006 at 4:23 PM | PERMALINK

>I love this- the wingnuts should be happy- I thought they were all fired up about spying on people to protect america-

No, no, you don't understand- the government is just supposed to spy on *liberals*. That's the way to protect America.

Posted by: MJ Memphis on January 6, 2006 at 4:24 PM | PERMALINK

Delay's gonna have to strip search Jackie boy before their next hug.

(Eewww, just threw up in my mouth a little.)

Posted by: ckelly on January 6, 2006 at 4:24 PM | PERMALINK

Having lived in the Navy town of San Diego for much of my adult life and having worked as an engineer in the defense industry for the first ten years of my post-college career, I can assure you, tbrosz, that "Duke" is not all that popular among the Vietnam era pilots that I knew. "Jerk" (actually, an anatomic term was more common) and "drunk" were the usual adjectives.

Posted by: J Bean on January 6, 2006 at 4:25 PM | PERMALINK

Good luck selling to the people in the Navy town of San Diego that the first ace pilot from Viet Nam era is a swindler and a crook.

He pled guilty and resigned.

I'm convinced.

Posted by: Stephen on January 6, 2006 at 4:25 PM | PERMALINK

Warrantless wiretaps anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

Posted by: ckelly on January 6, 2006 at 4:26 PM | PERMALINK

I remember when corruption scandals had blowjobs, interns, and way lower unemployment.

Line of the week!

Posted by: shortstop on January 6, 2006 at 4:29 PM | PERMALINK

Warrantless wiretaps anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

How warrantless? In the course of an FBI sting?

Idiot.

Posted by: Felix Deutsch on January 6, 2006 at 4:30 PM | PERMALINK

A surreptitious recording is a whole other kettle of fish from any sort of eavesdropping. No intrusive technology is required; more importantly, the information is conveyed by the second party's testimony. The recording isn't the information itself, just proof of its validity.

Nice try, though.

Posted by: kth on January 6, 2006 at 4:36 PM | PERMALINK

Did he wear the wires when he was sitting on the French Commode in the Rancho Santa Fe mansion both provide courtesy of Michael Wade?

Posted by: lib on January 6, 2006 at 4:37 PM | PERMALINK

Sorry Felix, my post was rather obtuse. What I meant to imply was that these Republicans now all verklempt over worn wires seemed to think warrantless wiretaps were okey-dokey a week ago.

That's not to say I'm not still an idiot.

Posted by: ckelly on January 6, 2006 at 4:40 PM | PERMALINK


B-O-I-N-G!!!!


AP Poll: Congressional Democrats favored

WILL LESTER Associated Press

WASHINGTON - In an ominous election-year sign for Republicans, Americans are leaning sharply toward giving Democrats control of Congress, an AP-Ipsos poll finds. Democrats are favored 49 percent to 36 percent.

The poll was taken this week as Republican lobbyist Jack Abramoff pleaded guilty to tax evasion, fraud and corruption charges and agreed to aid a federal investigation of members of Congress and other government officials.

President Bush's job approval remains low - 40 percent in the AP-Ipsos poll.

Posted by: thisspaceavailable on January 6, 2006 at 4:53 PM | PERMALINK

Guys, always check the e-mail listed in tbrosz' post. There are two fake tbrosz's as well as the original. Fortunately, both fakes are courteous enough to identify themselves with unique e-mail addresses. If it's "fake.com" or "helicalrocket.com," it's fake. If it's "rotaryrocket.com," it's probably the real thing. The one posted above is a fake.

Posted by: PaulB on January 6, 2006 at 5:02 PM | PERMALINK

Just a minor aside.... a French Commode is a chest of drawers if you will.

Posted by: bolivore on January 6, 2006 at 5:06 PM | PERMALINK

Looks like tbroz and rdw will be spending some time in the penn.
Serves em right.
Liars.

Posted by: Nemesis on January 6, 2006 at 5:09 PM | PERMALINK

Gee the lying republican boot lickers are afraid to post on this topic ...

Posted by: Nemesis on January 6, 2006 at 5:18 PM | PERMALINK

the dukester was framed! he's no more crooked than tom deLay, er frist, er, dear leader. yeah that's the ticket! cool blue ocean cool blue ocean cool blue ocean

Posted by: teehee broze on January 6, 2006 at 5:21 PM | PERMALINK

I know I'm scared.

Oh wait a minute. I'm not a republican.

Okie - feeling fine.

Posted by: cdj on January 6, 2006 at 5:23 PM | PERMALINK

...French Commode is a chest of drawers if you will.

Only in a commie world is it verboten to sit on a chest of drawers.

Posted by: lib on January 6, 2006 at 5:34 PM | PERMALINK

And the Republican Moderates are asking for new Leadership Elections.Delay is toast!

Posted by: scott on January 6, 2006 at 5:45 PM | PERMALINK

If schadenfreude could kill, to answer theorajones question, then most people on the left would be defunct or in as bad a shape as Ariel Sharon; of course, those who perished would die with a wonderful sneer on their faces, a rictus of ecstatic snark.

Posted by: Zhombre on January 6, 2006 at 5:52 PM | PERMALINK

Yeah, my heart's just breaking for those Republicans. If they're nervous, it's because they're crooks. Nobody's got any reason to be nervous if they talked to Duke about the weather, or legitimate business, or their predictions for the Rose Bowl. They need to be nervous if they talked about fixing government contracts, taking bribes and kickbacks, stealing elections, or other crimes.

Posted by: libdevil on January 6, 2006 at 5:56 PM | PERMALINK

Yes, Zhombre, the problem here isn't that the Republicans have spent the last 10 years working on the K street project, building up a corrupt political money machine in order to take over the federal government.

The problem is that Democrats are giddy when the Republicans get busted for their crimes.

It's not the entrenched, organized, and deliberate corruption, it's the [b]smirking[/b] that's hurting America. Whatever, dude.

Posted by: theorajones on January 6, 2006 at 6:01 PM | PERMALINK

I dig theorajones.

Posted by: shortstop on January 6, 2006 at 6:13 PM | PERMALINK

"It just makes all our liberal hearts go pitty pat, doesn't it?"

Pitty pat?

I thought I heard a big, loud "schwing!" I guess I'm just hearing things.

Posted by: Quaker in a Basement on January 6, 2006 at 6:15 PM | PERMALINK

I think he was cleaning it up for the cats' ears, Quake.

Posted by: shortstop on January 6, 2006 at 6:18 PM | PERMALINK

I wonder how much could have been achieved using a wire, considering the circumstances.

My general sense is that Cunningham would have been already regarded as highly radioactive before he started wearing a wire. Unless one was a total fool, why would one continue sharing confidences with him?

Productive wires, I'd expect, would require someone cooperating with the authorities who is NOT known by his co-conspirators to be in trouble.

Posted by: frankly0 on January 6, 2006 at 6:25 PM | PERMALINK

franklyo:One word FOOLS.that describes the rightwing crooks.

Posted by: scott on January 6, 2006 at 6:37 PM | PERMALINK
My general sense is that Cunningham would have been already regarded as highly radioactive before he started wearing a wire. Unless one was a total fool, why would one continue sharing confidences with him?

If you were already involved with him, and if you hoped that both you and he could get off, and felt that if he was convicted, you might be endangered, you might discuss with him means of concealing evidence that would be damaging to both of you, or other means of avoiding mutually damaging information from coming out.

Or you might try to get him not to cop a deal which would involve turning over evidence which incriminates you to prosecutors. Plenty of reasons why someone might say things to someone already being prosecuted which might be dangerous if it came out.

Posted by: cmdicely on January 6, 2006 at 6:44 PM | PERMALINK

cmdicely,

I can certainly understand why one would want to synchronize stories after your co-conspirator is clearly in trouble with the law. I just doubt that most people would be too dumb to realize that any discussion with him would have to be done VERY carefully, lest they make things worse for themselves. Why on earth would they believe that he would NOT testify against them, even if they didn't conclude he might be wearing a wire?

Posted by: frankly0 on January 6, 2006 at 6:52 PM | PERMALINK

The problem with Democrats is that they just won't accept a free market in politicians!

Posted by: Duke Cunningham on January 6, 2006 at 7:04 PM | PERMALINK

The word from the LAT reporter on the Cunningham story is that the wire probably was used for getting conversations with his defense contractor lobbyist friends. There might be a separation of powers problem with using a wire to get info on fellow congressmen. Still, no one knows for sure...

Posted by: nepeta on January 6, 2006 at 8:05 PM | PERMALINK

The problem with Democrats is that they just won't accept a free market in politicians!

Best. Comment. Ever.

Posted by: Edo on January 6, 2006 at 8:14 PM | PERMALINK

Wasn't Abramoff said to be cooperating with the Feds for over a year before he was indicted? Maybe he was wired.

Wouldn't that be precioussss...

Posted by: CaseyL on January 6, 2006 at 8:42 PM | PERMALINK

One tbrosz or another will be on shortly to tell us not to get our hopes up. His sources say the other voice on the tape will turn out to be Joe Wilson.

Posted by: Boronx on January 6, 2006 at 8:51 PM | PERMALINK

"I remember when corruption scandals had blowjobs, interns, and way lower unemployment."

I heard a gay radio commentator who volunteered to give President Bush a blowjob if it would lead to his impeachment.

One thing I haven't understood is how Duke was able to do this? I mean, how was he able to control which company got a contract? How does that work?

Posted by: JohnK on January 6, 2006 at 9:24 PM | PERMALINK

One thing I haven't understood is how Duke was able to do this? I mean, how was he able to control which company got a contract? How does that work?

Access is one example--Cunningham could trade in access, hooking up people with fat contracts with the people who were bidding on those contracts. Cunningham could grant access to people in exchange for favorable pieces of legislation.

Cunningham also has a slew of character defects that have led to his downfall. He is best described as a bully and a pervert, based on the few credible things that have come out in recent months.

Nobody wears a wire unless they're being forced to take down their friends. It's time to list Cunningham's friends and the people who were feeding him money and check it against the list of people who are fleeing the nation's capital.

Posted by: Pale Rider on January 6, 2006 at 9:44 PM | PERMALINK

One thing I haven't understood is how Duke was able to do this? I mean, how was he able to control which company got a contract? How does that work?

I don't understand either.

Based on what I know about the RFP/Proposal/Bidding process, I can't see how it's possible to stack it unless you've got a conspiracy of dozens of people. And that's just for GETTING the contract awarded. Then there's actually getting away with delivering anything less than what meets requirements. I just don't see how people get away with it. (Hell, oversight and process is probably more than half the cost of some programs).

I guess in some instances (like the Iraq war contracting) the bidding process was abbreviated, or oversight was eliminated, which is like hopping into a gay biker bar naked, manacled hand and foot, and covered with vaseline (which is apparently how the republican chickenhawks like it).

This is why I'm personally very pissed off by this MZM thing, because I work with people who bust their kiesters every single day to make sure that the taxpayers aren't getting cheated. It just blows my mind how it's possible that a good-old-boy network can circumvent all the paperwork and review boards and testing. Smarmy business practices trump sound engineering?

Posted by: Osama_Been_Forgotten on January 6, 2006 at 9:57 PM | PERMALINK

Guys and gals,

It just blows my mind how it's possible that a good-old-boy network can circumvent all the paperwork and review boards and testing.

The answer to that can be found by remembering what was done to Bunnatine Greenhouse.

Miss Greenhouse is a case study in how a public official who does a good job of being a responsible steward of the public's money can be sacrificed on the altar of the good old boy network.

Posted by: Pale Rider on January 6, 2006 at 10:07 PM | PERMALINK

Osama_Been_Forgotten:Smarmy business practices trump sound engineering?

You say that like it suprises you.

Posted by: alex on January 6, 2006 at 10:12 PM | PERMALINK

Shit, when you buy a politician he should stay bought. I mean, what's America coming to?

Posted by: MRB on January 6, 2006 at 10:53 PM | PERMALINK

good luck selling the fake tbrosz to america

Posted by: mudwall jackson on January 6, 2006 at 11:21 PM | PERMALINK

So much for the idea that only moonbats and lefties want Bush impeached. Now even the John Birch Society wants Bush impeached. Talk about a broad coalition!

Posted by: alex on January 6, 2006 at 11:30 PM | PERMALINK

WASHINGTON - In an ominous election-year sign for Republicans, Americans are leaning sharply toward giving Democrats control of Congress, an AP-Ipsos poll finds. Democrats are favored 49 percent to 36 percent. - thisspaceavailable

Well, after the voter purge (say 4-5%) and the legitimate ballot errors (double votes, dimpled chads, and shit (maybe 2%)) they can easily bridge the gap with the Diebold machines and a produce scanner. It's still close enough to steal. Again.

Posted by: Eric Paulsen on January 7, 2006 at 12:01 AM | PERMALINK

If I were a friend of Abramoff I'd be sweating a flood with this news, Jack has been cooperating with the prosecutors for 18 months. Let's call this news foreshadowing.

Posted by: kim on January 7, 2006 at 12:11 AM | PERMALINK

That JBS poll is pretty startling. While it has many of the usual accuracy issues of online polls, it appears to be limited to actual members of the John Birch Society.

60% of the votes favor impeachment for lying the U.S. into the Iraq War and/or illegal wiretaps, 20% think that while The President has made mistakes they don't rise to the level of impeachment and only 17% think that the war was justified and he is doing a good job overall.

I agree with very few of the John Birch Societies viewpoints, but am surprised to see that strong a rejection of G.W.B. from their membership.

Posted by: tanj on January 7, 2006 at 12:31 AM | PERMALINK

The Duke probably offered to root out liberal al Qaeda simps on the Hill in exchange for a reduced sentence.

He should be applauded for his courage in being willing to do NSA-type terrorist surveillance hands-on instead of leaving it to those data mining geeks at NSA HQ.

Hey, a new movie idea -- "The Right Wing Stuff."

Posted by: pj_in_jesusland on January 7, 2006 at 2:51 AM | PERMALINK


Good luck selling to the people in the Navy town of San Diego that the first ace pilot from Viet Nam era is a swindler and a crook.

(Assuming that this is the *real* tbroz).

Well, I hail from San Diego, and I can tell you first-hand that folks here are very disappointed (and disgusted with) the Dukestr.

It's painful to watch such a genuine war hero go down in flames, but folks in San Diego (and that includes the conservative military types here) are smart enough to know when a crook's a crook. Lots of military folks here feel quite betrayed by Duke -- I should know, because I work with a bunch of them.

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Posted by: art on January 7, 2006 at 12:28 PM | PERMALINK


hey did he have a warrant for that wiretap?

Posted by: mca on January 7, 2006 at 12:59 PM | PERMALINK




 

 

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