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January 21, 2006
By: Kevin Drum

CORRUPTION WATCH....Vito Corleone or Tom DeLay? Jimmy Conway or Karl Rove? If you too sometimes have trouble figuring out which ones are Republicans and which ones are mobsters, check out Republicans....or the Mafia? They're here to help.

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Aren't they pretty much synonymous these days?

(Frist?)

Posted by: Global Citizen on January 21, 2006 at 3:31 PM | PERMALINK

I can't wait for the contracts to go out. Will they open it up to public bidding?

Posted by: bobbyp on January 21, 2006 at 3:33 PM | PERMALINK

Awfully shrill, Kevin. The only civilized thing to do is wait for the results of the Republican-led investigation.

You wouldn't want to be uncivil now.

Posted by: Gore/Obama '08 on January 21, 2006 at 3:38 PM | PERMALINK

Gotta think Goldwater would want to be these guys with a pipe.

Posted by: Ayatollah NoNameMe on January 21, 2006 at 3:43 PM | PERMALINK

The entire Republican Party, from top to bottom, is subject to RICCO. If this were a country of law, they would be prosecuted.

Posted by: Mike on January 21, 2006 at 3:50 PM | PERMALINK

Last night on another thread, I melded the two. I called the current republican machine the AbraMafia. Now that I think about it, it is more true than I originally gave it credit for being.

Posted by: Global Citizen on January 21, 2006 at 4:13 PM | PERMALINK

The Hammer's m.o. for getting late-nite vote changes: "I'm going to make him an offer he can't refuse."

Posted by: cal gal on January 21, 2006 at 4:16 PM | PERMALINK

Excellent. I'd like to see some more on the fact that Patrick Fitzgerald, who everyone says can do no wrong, is also a registered Republican. And, over the past year, a registered foot-dragger.

Posted by: JamesP on January 21, 2006 at 4:28 PM | PERMALINK

I never expected this type of mudslinging, uncivil discourse, and hate speech from a moderate democrat. how rude.

Posted by: jonah goldberg on January 21, 2006 at 4:37 PM | PERMALINK

More Kzinti politics.

It isn't enough for the Democrats to simply condemn Republican political corruption. No, they have to take at a full run off the edge of the cliff, stark naked, painted bright blue, while holding a burning torch in each hand.

Republicans are the Mafia?

Is this really going to sell any better to the average American than "Republicans are Nazis?"

Gotta think Goldwater would want to be these guys with a pipe.

I think Goldwater would have been a bong man.

Posted by: tbrosz on January 21, 2006 at 4:48 PM | PERMALINK

I'll take Time Conway = Karl Rove for a hundred. This is no mudslinging. Who doesn't love Conway.

Posted by: Dude on January 21, 2006 at 4:48 PM | PERMALINK

So - George W Bush said that we would treat those who shelter terrorists no differently than the terrorists themselves.

Osama bin Laden has just released a new "greatest hits" tape, 4+ years after 9/11, he is most likely located in Pakistan, yet Pakistan is telling us to halt airstrikes against suspected terrorists?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060121/ap_on_re_as/pakistan_al_qaida_attack

So now that Mushtarraf has revealed himself for the terror-supporting fascist that he is, when do we invade Pakistan? I can't believe that wingnuts wring their hands over the potential ill consequences of invading Pakistan, and yet ignore the easily predictable consequences from invading Iraq.

More intellectual dishonesty from the right. They worry about "right and wrong" when it's convenient, and consequences when they need to defend their beloved Bushie.

Posted by: osama_been_forgotten on January 21, 2006 at 4:51 PM | PERMALINK

Republicans are the Mafia?

tbrosz, first, sit down, and try to wrinkle your brows thoughtfully. This may help.

Now here's the deal: It's a metaphor.

Unhappily for the Republicans, a very apt one.

Hey, just ask the guy who got rubbed out down in Florida.

Posted by: frankly0 on January 21, 2006 at 4:55 PM | PERMALINK

Global Citizen:

AbraMafia.

Genius.:)

Posted by: osama_been_forgotten on January 21, 2006 at 4:55 PM | PERMALINK

it's quite ironic that the biggest benficiaries of the Iraq misadventure have been one, a country that harbors, nurtures and produces terrorists and has WMDs to boot, and, two, a country declared to be a member of teh axis of evil by mr. bush himself.

GWB is a greeat and strong and a resolute leader alright.

Posted by: lib on January 21, 2006 at 4:58 PM | PERMALINK

I am willing to bet that if the actual data for the two parties is compared, on a per capita basis the Democrats have taken more money for playing that Republicans.

It would the height of hypocrisy if not outright chutzpah for the Democrats to claim that they are pure as snow when numerous cases of Demorctatic malfeasance could easily be documented if one makes even a half hearted effort.

Posted by: tbrosz on January 21, 2006 at 5:04 PM | PERMALINK

Bush: Corrupt. Reckless. Incompetent.


The Chosen One has been an embarassment on a global scale since day one.


Posted by: jcricket on January 21, 2006 at 5:09 PM | PERMALINK

Republicans....are the Mafia?

That is what it looks like to me.

The GOP doesn't act like conservatives anymore, just a bunch of criminal thugs AND not individual congress members working on their indvidual state related issues - they all work for Bush and Bush's corrupt policies and don't care about the rest of the nation.

Arizona (R)Sen. Jon Kyl had a leading part in helping Bush's big Phrama slush fund drug bill. Sen. Kyl cared very little for the people of Sun City or any of the hugh elderly population. I wonder what kick backs Sen. Kyl got for all this.

Posted by: Cheryl on January 21, 2006 at 5:09 PM | PERMALINK

as we once suffered from , so now we are suffering fromlaws . and yet we have left so much for judges to considerand decide , thatthere has never beensuch complete and uncrontrolled freedom. TACITUS

Posted by: TACITUS on January 21, 2006 at 5:12 PM | PERMALINK

I'm not willing to call Democrats blameless in this charade, overall. Yes, Democrats have taken money in the past. That's not the point.

As far as the AbraMafia goes, it's pretty clear that this particular scandal is not only a Republican scandal, but in scale, not just money taken, but in taxpayer dollars affected via bad legislation, unrivaled in the history of bribery scandals. And there's murder to boot.

But the anti-corruption legislation proposed by the spineless Dems this past week is just plain insulting.

If they're not going to propose real reform (for whatever reason) - why should we vote for them? They've got to make the case that they're going to fix this broken system. They've failed utterly.

Posted by: osama_been_forgotten on January 21, 2006 at 5:13 PM | PERMALINK

Vito Corleone or Tom DeLay? Jimmy Conway or Karl Rove?

Um, can I have Timmy Conway instead? And Don Knotts too? Honestly, I think we'd get better leadership from a Knotts/Conway administration.

Posted by: Moonlight on January 21, 2006 at 5:13 PM | PERMALINK

Considering Arizona is prime retirement land, I am wondering if Kyl is looking for a lobbyist position in his near future. If this Rx debacle is any indication of how he truly feels about his constituents, they may repay him in kind. Payback is a bitch.

Posted by: jcricket on January 21, 2006 at 5:14 PM | PERMALINK

Unless, of course Diebold is installing their machines in AZ soon....

Posted by: jcricket on January 21, 2006 at 5:18 PM | PERMALINK

Considering Arizona is prime retirement land,

. . .until they run out of water.

Then they're prime Solyent Green production land.

Posted by: osama_been_forgotten on January 21, 2006 at 5:26 PM | PERMALINK

water....I hear that is on Pombo's hit list too.....oh...that's another thread. Sorry. (Gee they all seem to have common denominators, don't they?)

Posted by: jcricket on January 21, 2006 at 5:30 PM | PERMALINK

I am willing to bet that if the actual data for the two parties is compared, on a per capita basis the Democrats have taken more money for playing that Republicans.

posted by tbrosz

OK. How much? I'll lay odds if that's what it takes.

Posted by: bobbyp on January 21, 2006 at 5:39 PM | PERMALINK

JamesP

Excellent. I'd like to see some more on the fact that Patrick Fitzgerald, who everyone says can do no wrong, is also a registered Republican. And, over the past year, a registered foot-dragger.

Erm, No.

http://tinyurl.com/cc72b

Fitzgerald is careful to be apolitical in his targets and his public life alike. He registered to vote as an Independent in New York, only to discover, when he began receiving fundraising calls, that Independent was a political party. He re-registered with no affiliation, as he did later in Chicago.

He spit fire last year when reporters asked whether the racketeering indictment of Muhammad Hamid Khalil Salah, a fundraiser for the Islamic militant group Hamas, was timed to boost President Bush's reelection campaign. The case was trumpeted first by Attorney General John Ashcroft.

"I am not running for an election. I'm not part of a political party," Fitzgerald said at the time. "The election is irrelevant to this case. The reason we brought this case now is we're ready to proceed."

Posted by: Alan on January 21, 2006 at 5:52 PM | PERMALINK

osama been forgotten: So now that Mushtarraf has revealed himself for the terror-supporting fascist that he is, when do we invade Pakistan? I can't believe that wingnuts wring their hands over the potential ill consequences of invading Pakistan, and yet ignore the easily predictable consequences from invading Iraq.

Agreed. On to Karachi! Seriously, I'd love to hear what the right-wing arguments against invading Pakistan are. Here we have a country that fits every criteria in the book: virulently anti-American, actually has WMD, has sold nuclear technology to North Korea, has a history of invading its neighbors, has committed genocide, represses its own people, is a dictatorship, funds and shelters the Taliban and Al Qaeda, shelters bin Laden, is a state sponsor of terrorism (in fact, probably the largest and most active state sponsor of terrorism in the world through the ISI's funding of Muslim terror groups in Kashmir), has many people in its military and intelligence services who probably wouldn't mind handing over some WMD to militant Islamists, etc. etc. etc.

So why shouldn't we invade? Don't the Pakistanis deserve democracy as much as the Iraqis do? Are we going to wait for a mushroom cloud over New York? Surely if we install a democracy in Pakistan it will start a chain reaction of freedom in the region....

Posted by: Stefan on January 21, 2006 at 6:04 PM | PERMALINK

The issue is the 2 elections -- Florida 2000 and Ohio 2004. Those 2 were stolen. Nakedly. Obviously.

What do you call the greatest criminals in the world? Republicans.

Posted by: Jeffrey Davis on January 21, 2006 at 6:07 PM | PERMALINK

'Deze guys are more like "The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight".

ALA PattyPatton - DO NO MISS MOLLY IVINS'S LATEST COLUMN!!!

To hell with Hillary and the Republican-Lite crowd in the Democratic Party - Stand up and fight - Geez, we don't really want to offend anyone out there - We really should worry that we may be perceived to be not tough enough on national defense - Oh, wring our little hands and play dead Centrists - A great slogan "We can be slightly better than Bush, America". Might as well be, "We're not quite as crooked as they are".

Anyway, please, please read Molly Ivins's latest column.

Posted by: thethirdPaul on January 21, 2006 at 6:48 PM | PERMALINK

Actually, Paul-3, I posted Ivins entire column on my site about two hours ago. I didn't want anyone to miss it when it disappeared behind the subscription wall. It is most excellent. Take the final paragraph to heart, everyone!

Posted by: Global Citizen on January 21, 2006 at 6:56 PM | PERMALINK

tbrosz: It isn't enough for the Democrats to simply condemn Republican political corruption. No, they have to take at a full run off the edge of the cliff, stark naked, painted bright blue, while holding a burning torch in each hand...Republicans are the Mafia?

Despite having the correct e-mail address, this has to be a fake tbrosz post. Even Tom is not this stupid.

If he were, I'd have to gently point out that acquiring a sense of humor will in no way raise his taxes.

Posted by: shortstop on January 21, 2006 at 7:23 PM | PERMALINK

I've read a couple of books that feature the Kzin - they were the race of cat-people who were the scourge of the galaxy - until they met the monkeys (us) and got their asses kicked.

Deductive reasoning leads me to conclude that only the real Tom would be the one who would make that reference. And I just tipped my own geek hand, didn't I?

Posted by: Global Citizen on January 21, 2006 at 7:28 PM | PERMALINK

That's all right, girl, you're the kind of geek who plays well with others. Hold down the fort...I'm off to see an Agenda Movie That Won't Make Any Money (TM rdw). Except that it will and it is.

Posted by: shortstop on January 21, 2006 at 7:31 PM | PERMALINK

Have a good time. Enjoy the flick. I'm going to go play with the grandkid. Catch you tomorrow-ish.

Posted by: Global Citizen on January 21, 2006 at 7:53 PM | PERMALINK

Shortstop,

Please do not tell the Drexel Hill Dummy, but I thought "The Constant Gardener" was supurb. "Ararat" was very sobering, the French film "Beat That my Heart Skipped" was excellent and I just missed being able to rent "June Bug".

There had been a run on the John Wayne and Ron Silver section, so that's all I could find.

Posted by: thethirdPaul on January 21, 2006 at 7:53 PM | PERMALINK

It would the height of hypocrisy if not outright chutzpah for the Democrats to claim that they are pure as snow when numerous cases of Demorctatic malfeasance could easily be documented if one makes even a half hearted effort.

Well? Get up off your ass and make the effort, then. Show us the numbers, you know, the facts instead of just pulling stuff out of your ass.

Clownhole.

Posted by: hamletta on January 21, 2006 at 8:10 PM | PERMALINK

hamletta:

"Clownhole." Is that a regionalism, or did it just pop into your head?

Whatever it is, I like it :)

Bob

Posted by: rmck1 on January 21, 2006 at 8:39 PM | PERMALINK

Speaking of the GOP and mobsters, here's the Banana Republicans Most Wanted Poster.

Posted by: AvengingAngel on January 21, 2006 at 9:01 PM | PERMALINK

Banana Republicans....brings to mind a term I read on another blog recently (maybe FDL? KOS?)


"CHIMPEACHMENT!!"

it fits quite nicely, actually.....yes. I can see the natural order of things now. Thanks AvengingAngel! :)

Posted by: jcricket on January 21, 2006 at 9:13 PM | PERMALINK

Global Citizen:

I made the "geek" post, not the other one, which had a lot of typos and the sad signs of someone trying to generate complex sentences who isn't used to it.

Geez, it's tough enough to be outnumbered in a place like this without having to deal with the ringers, and all those who fall for them.

"Clownhole" is kind of a cool term, though. One of those that sounds obscene, even when it isn't. Perfect for use in places like this.

As long as we're on "geek:" Three new Miyazaki movies coming out on DVD March 7th. "Howl's Moving Castle," a new dub of "Totoro," and "Whispers of the Heart." Don't miss them. The TCM cable channel has also been playing Miyazaki Thursday nights.

Posted by: tbrosz on January 21, 2006 at 9:34 PM | PERMALINK

I made the "geek" post, not the other one...

posted, maybe, by tbrosz

Damn, it's hard to get a bet down in this place.

Posted by: bobbyp on January 21, 2006 at 10:39 PM | PERMALINK

tbrosz: hey have to take at a full run off the edge of the cliff, stark naked, painted bright blue, while holding a burning torch in each hand

Maybe it's my Druid ancestry, but that kinda sounds like fun.

Sundance Kid [low voice, embarrased]: I can't swim.

Butch Cassidy [laughs]: The fall will probably kill ya.

Together [screaming on the way down]: Oh shiiiiit!!!

Posted by: alex on January 21, 2006 at 10:44 PM | PERMALINK

alex:

I was kind of hoping somebody would catch the Pictish warrior image.

One of the tensions on the Left is between those who think the Democrats are doing this too much, and those (some of them on the board) who thinks they aren't screaming and leaping enough.

Posted by: tbrosz on January 21, 2006 at 11:35 PM | PERMALINK

End result:
Sunni Genocide.
Theofascist Regime.
Fragmentation of Kurdistan.
Courtesy of the Bush Administration.

Posted by: osama_been_forgotten on January 21, 2006 at 11:57 PM | PERMALINK

This ought to brighten your day, osama...

Bush and AbramoffSay Cheese?
White House press secretary Scott McClellan admits that the White House has been on a search mission for any photos showing President Bush with toxic lobbyist Jack Abramoff, who is cooperating with the Justice Department on its investigation of a wide-ranging lobbying scandal.

At a press conference, McClellan said if there were pictures, which officials hadnt found, they might have been taken at a Christmas-party line, where the President poses with hundreds of people. The President does not know him, nor does the President recall ever meeting him, McClellan said.

The comment about searching raised images in the press room of a White House plumbers operation looking for incriminating photos.

If the White House cant find the photos, prosecutors already know where to look. The Washingtonian has seen five photos of the President with Abramoff or his family. One photo shows the President and Abramoff shaking hands at a meeting in the Old Executive Office Building, where a bearded-Abramoff introduced Bush to several of the lobbyists native-American clients.

Abramoff was named a pioneer in the Bush presidential campaign, collecting more than $100,000, in $2,000 maximum increments, for his campaign in 2004. Bush has returned $6,000 of Abramoffs contributions, the part that would represent the legal limit for Abramoff; his wife, Pam; and a client.

Sources say the photographs are being kept safe. Abramoff would tell prosecutors, if asked, that not only did he know the President, but the President knew the names of Abramoffs children and asked about them during their meetings. At one such photo session, Bush discussed the fact that both he and Abramoff were fathers of twins.

Posted by: Pale Rider on January 22, 2006 at 12:10 AM | PERMALINK

The big difference between Bushreich and the mafia is that il padrino didn't have the power to pardon.

Pentangeli probably derives from pantangeli (all angels) and, interestingly, isn't found in Sicily; see
http://gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/genera.html

Posted by: Brian Boru on January 22, 2006 at 1:20 AM | PERMALINK

"I am willing to bet that if the actual data for the two parties is compared, on a per capita basis the Democrats have taken more money for playing that Republicans."

And I'm willing to bet that, if the actual data for the two parties were compared (note, tbrosz, I know something about grammar and punctuation), on a per capita basis democrats score at least 50 points higher on IQ tests than republicans.

Posted by: Marcus Tullius on January 22, 2006 at 1:25 AM | PERMALINK

"Clownhole." Is that a regionalism, or did it just pop into your head?

I'm pretty sure it was invented by one of two punk rock chicks in Nashville in the '80s. There was something of a squabble, at least on the party of the one part, as to its provenance. Glad you like it.

Posted by: hamletta on January 22, 2006 at 4:56 AM | PERMALINK

"... il padrino didn't have the power to pardon"

I don't think Bush and pardon will ever belong in the same sentence -- unless the word Rove is also in there somewhere.

Posted by: Kenji on January 22, 2006 at 4:58 AM | PERMALINK

....Richard Nixon....Bebe Rebozo....Howard Hughes....


Posted by: Back To The Future on January 22, 2006 at 5:42 AM | PERMALINK

it's tough enough to be outnumbered in a place like this

That hardly excuses your near-constant stream of intelelctual dishonesty, tbrosz. Shame on you.

Posted by: Gregory on January 22, 2006 at 11:33 AM | PERMALINK
(some of them on the board) who thinks they aren't screaming and leaping enough. Posted by: tbrosz
Screaming? like PattyCake, Fat Angry Guy, and Tom Brosz?
take at a full run off the edge of the cliff, stark naked, painted bright blue, while holding a burning torch in each hand. Posted by: tbrosz
Read Karl Rove's speech. Posted by: Speaker to animals on January 22, 2006 at 3:12 PM | PERMALINK

Republicans or the Mafia?

The Republicans are the Mafia.

Posted by: Advocate for God on January 23, 2006 at 1:32 PM | PERMALINK




 

 

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