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January 24, 2006
By: Kevin Drum

EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE WATCH....Yesterday:

The White House was told in the hours before Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans that the city would probably soon be inundated with floodwater, forcing the long-term relocation of hundreds of thousands of people, documents to be released Tuesday by Senate investigators show.

A Homeland Security Department report submitted to the White House at 1:47 a.m. on Aug. 29, hours before the storm hit, said, "Any storm rated Category 4 or greater will likely lead to severe flooding and/or levee breaching."

....Other documents to be released Tuesday show that the weekend before Hurricane Katrina made landfall, Homeland Security Department officials predicted that its impact would be worse than a doomsday-like emergency planning exercise conducted in Louisiana in July 2004.

Today:

The Bush administration, citing the confidentiality of executive branch communications, said Tuesday that it did not plan to turn over certain documents about Hurricane Katrina or make senior White House officials available for sworn testimony before two Congressional committees investigating the storm response.

.... In response to questions later from a reporter, the deputy White House spokesman, Trent Duffy, said the administration had declined requests to provide testimony by Andrew H. Card Jr., the White House chief of staff; Mr. Card's deputy, Joe Hagin; Frances Fragos Townsend, the homeland security adviser; and her deputy, Ken Rapuano.

Mr. Duffy said the administration had also declined to provide storm-related e-mail correspondence and other communications involving White House staff members.

Why am I not surprised?

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Democrats should be thankful that the President is not releasing the documents, for, if and when they come out, the liberals will be flaggergasted by what they see.

Posted by: tbrosz on January 24, 2006 at 11:28 PM | PERMALINK

The president serves as a privilege bestowed by the people and possesses no insulating privilege from culpability of his heinous, callous and incompetent actions. Bush/Cheney should be impeached and sent away to federal prison somewhere in the Gulf Coast area devastated by the storm. They are a malignancy on our republic. Their incompetence kills. Their lies and obfuscations allow them to kill more. Reckoning is coming. They are unmitigated disaster. Damn everyone whose casual acquiesence has brought us this national embarrassment and malignancy on the body politic.

Posted by: Sparko on January 24, 2006 at 11:36 PM | PERMALINK

Democrats should be thankful that the President is not releasing the documents, for, if and when they come out, the liberals will be flaggergasted by what they see.

Most likely it contains documents showing how the Administration repeatedly warned Nagin and Blanco about the devastation that Katrina could cause but the liberals ignored the warnings. Democrats should be happy the documents are not released.

Posted by: Al on January 24, 2006 at 11:41 PM | PERMALINK

Citing Congressional privilege, Congress fired Bush's ass.

Posted by: bebimbob on January 24, 2006 at 11:44 PM | PERMALINK

Al on January 24, 2006 at 11:41 PM:

Most likely it contains documents...Democrats should be happy the documents are not released.

Rove protecting Democrats and liberals, riiight...That's one of the worst posts ever from Parody Al...

Posted by: grape_crush on January 24, 2006 at 11:47 PM | PERMALINK

We have a military, a Homeland Security Department and FEMA to mitigate such general disaster. We have a general disaster as President to hinder above. He is to incompetent to trust. Too untrustworthy to believe. Too unbelievable to comprehend. The present times are as dangerous as any in the history of our Republic. We need more Murthas, less partisanship, and some trials. At least Abramoff was good at bribery. He can still rise to overcome his grievous mistakes if he turns State's evidence against this dictator. And I think he will. He was a pioneer and Presidential accsess merchant.

Posted by: Sparko on January 24, 2006 at 11:53 PM | PERMALINK

Are the soles of their feet feeling warm yet?

Posted by: shortstop on January 24, 2006 at 11:55 PM | PERMALINK

Recycling the Katrina flap again? Has there been a little too much attention lately being paid to the governor and Mayor Wonka?

And "flaggergasted?" Come on, you're not even trying.

Posted by: tbrosz on January 24, 2006 at 11:55 PM | PERMALINK

But don't you see, the terrorists are just waiting to see how the government responds in a national disaster so they can... well, more efficiently terrorize us! Or something! So we HAVE to keep all these documents secret for national security reasons!

Posted by: jimBOB on January 24, 2006 at 11:58 PM | PERMALINK

Our CinC is to be commended for refusing to take the bait from the fever-swamp left so quick to lay the blame at his feet. He's got a war to fight. This is no time for finger-pointing.

Posted by: TLaemmle on January 25, 2006 at 12:03 AM | PERMALINK

He's got a war to fight. This is no time for finger-pointing.

Then why is bin Laden still playing "Hide The Osama" in the mountains?

If GWBush was even remotely interested in fighting global terrorism, he would NOT have stopped chasing bin Laden. And he'd get serious about some leverage agains the Wahabbi monarchy in Saudi Arabia.

Either you are being ironic (please, please, may it be so) or you're just a complete tool.

Posted by: SteveAudio on January 25, 2006 at 12:09 AM | PERMALINK

was that second one the fake tbroz, too? hard to tell ... they're both tools, so I'm not sure if it matters in any meaningful way.

Posted by: Nads on January 25, 2006 at 12:22 AM | PERMALINK

shortstop: Are the soles of their feet feeling warm yet?

Not when they swing from limb to limb.

Posted by: Apollo 13 on January 25, 2006 at 12:28 AM | PERMALINK

Accountability is for saps.

Posted by: Steven Jong on January 25, 2006 at 12:31 AM | PERMALINK

Bush failed New Orleans and the nation. He is suppressing the record of his failure for the same reason that he is hiding evidence of his close connection to the GOP Gangster Abramoff, who served on his 2000-2001 transition team, donated his executive secretary to Karl Rove, and raised major funds for Bush-Cheney 2004, at least 94% of which the Bush-Cheney committee is keeping.

As with his drunk driving arrest, Bush thinks if nobody knows, he didn't do it.

Posted by: Steve High on January 25, 2006 at 12:32 AM | PERMALINK

Was it titled: "Katrina determined to strike in New Orleans"?

It still probably doesn't count as "actionable intelligence." I mean, it only said what, when, where, and how. But even the smartest meteorologists still can't explain why.

Posted by: Saam Barrager on January 25, 2006 at 12:36 AM | PERMALINK

Recycling the Katrina flap again?

"flap"? "flap"? We lost one of our cities. The president stayed on vacation while OUR city died. The president's staff was afraid to tell him what was happening. The head of FEMA was whining about the Baton Rouge restaurants while people were dying. tbrosz, sometimes your sociopathy astounds even me-- and I am an engineer, so I know how messed up in the head many of us can be.

If you're not mourning for the loss of our city and agape at how the federal government could fail to function like it did, then you clearly don't have the same connection to the United States and the American people that the rest of us with souls do.

Posted by: Constantine on January 25, 2006 at 12:37 AM | PERMALINK

And if that was the fake tbrosz, that wasn't funny (the first fake tbrosz was pretty amusing, though).

Posted by: Constantine on January 25, 2006 at 12:38 AM | PERMALINK

Our CinC is to be commended for refusing to take the bait from the fever-swamp left so quick to lay the blame at his feet. He's got a war to fight. This is no time for finger-pointing.

It's just another reason why George Bush is so awesome.

Posted by: RotaryRocketBoom on January 25, 2006 at 12:46 AM | PERMALINK

I for one am already flaggergasted by the Bush administration emails released by Blanco.

Posted by: irrationalbushhater on January 25, 2006 at 12:47 AM | PERMALINK

Crooks. Cronies. Corruption.

The 3 Cs don't play well amongst independents, heartland Americans, and Mountain West Americans.

Must ride this hard.

Incompetence bad too...the missing C.

Posted by: Jimm on January 25, 2006 at 12:51 AM | PERMALINK

Now that all of N.A. is under the thumb of the right there is nowhere to run and nowhere to hide.....be careful of what you write and say....remember....Phone calls and emails to and from Canada are International.....Who knows what the white House considers international. New Orleans? was it washed out to sea? Pounded by foreign waves? Even paranoids have enemies...

Posted by: murmeister on January 25, 2006 at 12:57 AM | PERMALINK

Hey, you don't want to reveal vital information about our sources and methods to the Atlantic Ocean, do you?

Posted by: Davis X. Machina on January 25, 2006 at 1:03 AM | PERMALINK

Why not share the information? Sheesh. If you did everything right and its Blanco and Nagin who let the city drown, tell your whole wingnut nation.

But that's not what happened and Busch just fucked up and slept through another big national catastrophe. Just like he will again in two months, and a year, and 18 months from now. And the GOP spin and TP will crank faster and faster.

But maybe it will break.

Posted by: martin special on January 25, 2006 at 1:03 AM | PERMALINK

I'd venture to guess that most people in this country don't care who was to blame for the sorry response to Katrina. They just want answers. And they want New Orleans fixed ASAP with a minimum of corruption and cronyism.

As with most scandals, it's the response that sinks an Administration, not the actual act itself. Rove and Bush are pretty tone deaf if they don't fess up, let the chips fall where they may, and move on. This is a loser issue for them.

I also wonder if Rove is still in charge of the reconstruction (despite his long resume of no work in aid organizations, just like Brownie) and how that's going. Not much of a peep in the media. My hunch is that there's a lot of corruption, some of it planned.

Posted by: Fred on January 25, 2006 at 1:04 AM | PERMALINK

Gotta ask, then:

Is there any authority or mechanism that could compel the White House to turn this stuff over? Can these committees issue subpoenas?

Posted by: exasperanto on January 25, 2006 at 1:06 AM | PERMALINK

TP to wipe away all the shit.

Posted by: martin special on January 25, 2006 at 1:15 AM | PERMALINK

Is there any authority or mechanism that could compel the White House to turn this stuff over? Can these committees issue subpoenas?

Probably not going to happen with Congress, but "bad publicity" would definitely play a role in the release of the information, but this would take a sustained public relations effort by the Democrats, and a little moxie from the compliant mainstream press.

I'm not enthused at the prospect, but just the refusal to release the information can be used to devastating advantage, if framed right with the larger platform, in the upcoming elections.

Posted by: Jimm on January 25, 2006 at 1:15 AM | PERMALINK

After all, this isn't the Energy Task Force meetings, which is going to make most Americans eyes glaze over and/or yawn - it's Katrina, an event 99% of Americans are aware of, and whom a signifigant percentage are also aware of the profound incompetence (fuckups) that ensued after the storm in terms of the government response.

No, hiding those documents is just stupid.

Posted by: Jimm on January 25, 2006 at 1:16 AM | PERMALINK

Crooks, cronies and corruption lead to...

calamities
catastrophes
cataclysms

Posted by: Darryl Pearce on January 25, 2006 at 1:29 AM | PERMALINK

Yeah the memo was called 'Hurricane set to destroy New Orleans'.

However it was a meterological document, and it did not contain any actionable information.

Posted by: Condi Rice on January 25, 2006 at 1:32 AM | PERMALINK

To quote popular whipping boy, shill, and former occasional journalist Dan Rather: "He's the President of the United States, so we should give him the benefit of the doubt."

Posted by: Monty on January 25, 2006 at 1:33 AM | PERMALINK

Whenever Bush pulls this kind of stunt it is almost a dead giveaway that he has something to
hide. It's like mobsters pleading the 5th.
Of course, Bush's monumental incompetence and
ineptitude is too large to hide under a bushel
basket. He lurches from disaster to disaster
seeming to have learned nothing from his errors.
The real effects of the Katrina debacle could be
a realignment in the South. Louisiana voters
who supported Bush and the Republicans in the
last election see how little their support
counted. They don't like being humiliated
in front of the nation. The payback from this
could be severe for Bush and the Republican
leadership in November. If they can't deliver
the goods here in Louisiana (and Mississippi,
which is still in shambles) where can they be
trusted to make good on their promises?
Unless you are an insurance company or one of
the pharmacutical companies- nowhere.
And as for giving Bush the "benefit of the doubt"- all I can say is ( to quote the late
JFK after the Bay of Pigs debacle)- how could
we be so stupid as to ever believe him again on
anything?!

Posted by: anthony v. cuccia on January 25, 2006 at 3:54 AM | PERMALINK

Denial isn't just a river in Egypt. It works pretty well in a variety of circumstances. There are so many scandals going on that keeping fuel from the fire is probably a reasonable strategy, and the White House refusing to release information is hardly news at this point.

Posted by: bad Jim on January 25, 2006 at 5:13 AM | PERMALINK

"The White House was told in the hours before Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans that the city would probably soon be inundated with floodwater"

Oooh. Hours. So much time to save the day.

Posted by: Mca on January 25, 2006 at 5:14 AM | PERMALINK

Oooh. Hours. So much time to save the day.

Yes, I'm sure that explains the several days of inadequate response. Check this thread in the first day for examples of thinking on your feet.

Posted by: Jimm on January 25, 2006 at 5:16 AM | PERMALINK

McA, why bother?

Posted by: Jimm on January 25, 2006 at 5:18 AM | PERMALINK

It has reached Soviet levels of incompetence, corruption, deception and secrecy. And yet the delusional Republican base keeps clapping.

Keep clapping, little ostriches, keep clapping. As the ugly truths and avoidable consequences keep piling up, the rest of America won't trust the GOP for a generation.

Posted by: Tim B. on January 25, 2006 at 5:22 AM | PERMALINK

Yes, I'm sure that explains the several days of inadequate response.

Posted by: Jimm on January 25, 2006 at 5:16 AM | PERMALINK

So if the days didn't outrage anyone...why does wasting a few hours bother anyone.

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We lost one of our cities. The president stayed on vacation while OUR city died.

Posted by: Constantine on January 25, 2006 at 12:37 AM | PERMALINK

What do you mean your city, white man! New Orleans is Choctaw land!

Posted by: McA on January 25, 2006 at 5:40 AM | PERMALINK

Who let those first Freepers in? Here's a question for them:

Why did Bush travel to birthday parties and guitar fake strumming if he knew how severe the situation was?

Posted by: Beelzedubya on January 25, 2006 at 6:17 AM | PERMALINK

Hey, there was brush to clear in Crawford and the neocon weenies had the invasion of Iran to plan, so give 'em a break, would ya?

Do you think the president's job is to anticipate and react to national disasters or something?

Posted by: Stephen Kriz on January 25, 2006 at 6:31 AM | PERMALINK

Why aren't the trolls hiding under their beds? Don't they know that Osama binBogeyMan released another tape?

Posted by: merlallen on January 25, 2006 at 7:04 AM | PERMALINK

Contrast: Governor Kathleen Blanco turned over some 100,000 documents, including all of her office's emails in this time period. The documents have been available to the public for quite some time. You can even go read them at the Times Picayune website. She forked them over, and duly took her abuse over the emails showing that her PR staff was writing emails about *gasp* PR.

Come on, Mr. President. Turn over the emails, stand up and take your criticism like a man. Like Governor Blanco.

Posted by: wintermute on January 25, 2006 at 8:40 AM | PERMALINK

There are so many scandals going on that keeping fuel from the fire is probably a reasonable strategy, and the White House refusing to release information is hardly news at this point.

Right, but reasonable or not, it's the only strategy available to them. The heat they're taking for their arrogant, obstructive tactics is nothing compared to the outrage that will cascade across the nation if those docs are released.

Fortunately, everyone realizes that and judges this administration accordingly. There is no good way for them to spin this. Americans' contempt for Bush has been validated once again.

Posted by: shortstop on January 25, 2006 at 8:55 AM | PERMALINK

I've been flaggergasted since I got here.

Posted by: Ace Franze on January 25, 2006 at 9:06 AM | PERMALINK

Incompetent, dishonest, ass-covering swine.

Posted by: BatGuano on January 25, 2006 at 9:27 AM | PERMALINK

"Any storm rated Category 4 or greater will likely lead to severe flooding and/or levee breaching."

Folks, what was Katrina when it hit NO? Cat 3 wasnt it?

Posted by: Tim Worstall on January 25, 2006 at 9:30 AM | PERMALINK

Tim, the day of the hurricane they thought it was Cat 4 when it hit.

But having worked at FEMA - anyone with any disaster experience knows that you watch the levees like a hawk when the big rains hit. Even a small break can be catastrophic. And you know the whole system can't be perfect.

But as Harold Meyerson pointed out this morning. The biggest issue isn't ideology. It's simple competence. If you don't hire people with disaster training to run a disaster relief agency they're going to blow it. If you don't hire people who have studied re-building a war shattered country - they're going to blow it. If you don't pay attention to terrorism experts, you're going to get hit. etc.

And all this hiding is just trying to evade that simple issue: competence. Certainly not sexy - but it should be our first question in politics. Does this person have a clue what they're doing?

Posted by: Samuel Knight on January 25, 2006 at 9:52 AM | PERMALINK

Folks, what was Katrina when it hit NO? Cat 3 wasnt it?

Let's get the timeline right, 'folks'

August 28. Katrina reached its peak at 1:00 p.m. CDT (1800 UTC) with maximum sustained winds of 175 mph (280 km/h), gusts of 215 mph (344 km/h) and a central pressure of 26.64 inches or 902 mbar (hPa). The minimum pressure made Katrina, at the time, the fourth most intense Atlantic Basin hurricane on record. (Hurricane Rita and Hurricane Wilma in 2005 would later surpass Katrina in the same year.)

Going into August 29, effects could be felt along the Gulf Coast. The center of Katrina was about 200 miles (315 km) away from the mouth of the Mississippi River. Tropical storm-force winds extended 230 statute miles (370 km) away from the center, and hurricane-force winds extended about 100 miles (165 km) away.

Overnight on August 29 and into that morning, Katrina began to enter another eyewall replacement cycle and its maximum winds quickly weakened. However, storm surge remained high because large waves at greater than 30 feet (and up to 55 feet) were generated beforehand when Katrina was at Categories 4 and 5. The waves combined with the storm surge of a large Category 3 hurricane.

So if the administration was handed a report at 1:47 on August 29, 2005, based on what I just posted, what thinking person would be able to conclude that these people did nothing in the face of a major catastrophe?

Posted by: Pale Rider on January 25, 2006 at 9:53 AM | PERMALINK

Tim Worstall -- Katrina was a cat 5 shortly before hitting land. When it hit land it was thought to be a cat 4. It was later downgraded to a cat 3 in post analysis. But it is wrong to think that these categories are cut and dried divisions or that all hurricanes of a particular category are alike. Furthermore the amount of damage they do depends on the storm surge and the angle that they hit the particular levee, etc. Katrina was an enormous storm that was clearly going to do tremendous damage to New Orleans and the whole Gulf coast.

Posted by: NeilS on January 25, 2006 at 10:01 AM | PERMALINK

I was going to make a similar point. When the planning and staging should have been going on, it was clear that Katrina was probably going to be a 4 or 5. It weaked toward the end, but no responsible responder should have planned or acted on that assumption.

Bush's biggest problem is his distain for competence. He runs the white house as an extension of his campaign, and he uses government positions to pay off campaign workers. The assumption is that party loyalty is more important than competence. That might have worked early in the country' history, but ever since at least 1929 it has been painfully obvious to everybody that competence in government is more important than patronage and loyalty.

Posted by: Ron Byers on January 25, 2006 at 10:05 AM | PERMALINK

There's also the pesky matter of the US Constitution, which requires probable cause before a warrant can be issued. The President and his friends apparently believe that the war on terror isn't serious enough to justify a change in military priorities or a tax increase, but does justify suspension of the Constitution.

Posted by: Josueencuentro on January 25, 2006 at 10:09 AM | PERMALINK

Thanks, McA for letting us know how people in Malaysia see all this. Very helpful.

Posted by: Pat on January 25, 2006 at 9:50 AM | PERMALINK

Malaysians are big on native rights. Them Choctaw's called the Ghost Dance on your New Orleans!

Posted by: McA on January 25, 2006 at 10:18 AM | PERMALINK

Recycling the Katrina flap again? Has there been a little too much attention lately being paid to the governor and Mayor Wonka?

And "flaggergasted?" Come on, you're not even trying.

Sheesh, tbrosz can usually be counted on to at least put a little lipstick on his pigs. When he can't be bothered to invoke anything but ad hominems, you know he's got no case.

Posted by: tea broz on January 25, 2006 at 10:27 AM | PERMALINK

Choctaws?
Ghost dance?
Hoo boy! To be expected, and my knowledge of Malaysia is pretty limited, but still ...

Hey, McAristotle! How goes the fight against JI and MILF?

Posted by: kenga on January 25, 2006 at 10:34 AM | PERMALINK

Constantine: I am an engineer, so I know how messed up in the head many of us can be

An enGineer? OMG, this board is crawling with people like you (and me). Let's just agree to crawl back into our holes and leave these human beings alone.

Posted by: alex on January 25, 2006 at 10:34 AM | PERMALINK

Hey, McAristotle! How goes the fight against JI and MILF?

MILF's are attacking Malaysia? Time for this trex to enter the fray...perhaps disguised as a pool boy....

Posted by: trex on January 25, 2006 at 10:37 AM | PERMALINK

As I have recently commented on the NSA, in today's world, we need the tools to be able to react very quickly.
Therefore, I have asked our Surgeon General to perform "brain transplants" on Dick, Karl and myself.

Posted by: George W on January 25, 2006 at 10:39 AM | PERMALINK

It would be great if faith and wishing for things and marketing and public opinion were all it took to live a wonderful life.

The problem is that when reality clashes with BS reality always wins.

Posted by: Tripp on January 25, 2006 at 10:42 AM | PERMALINK

As a New Orleanian whose home was flooded due to the incompetence of the federal government, I am tired of the finger being pointed at local officials.

THIS WAS THE LARGEST NATURAL DISASTER IN U.S. HISTORY! Let me say that again. THE LARGEST NATURAL DISASTER IN U.S. HISTORY! What is wrong with you people? How do you think local officials are going to be able to respond with 80% of the city under water? The governor and the mayor are far from perfect, but they certainly did better than FEMA or President "Flyover" and his cronies.

If we can't count on the Federal Government to help during crises like these, then I'm afraid we're in more trouble than I thought.

Posted by: Trent on January 25, 2006 at 10:46 AM | PERMALINK

The response might reasonably be confused with an attitude that the President is not accountable to Congress. Of course, in actual practice, that seems to be the case of late.

Posted by: opit on January 25, 2006 at 10:51 AM | PERMALINK

We are witnessing a nation in moral collapse. Bush came into office under the banner of accountability. Yet, everytime there is a moment where accountability is needed, the Whitehouse is MIA.

Remember, the "this is not time for the 'blame game' meme". Now it is time for accountability and we get the "duck, dodge and hide" game.

Bush behaves more and more like a third world dictator everyday. Read about the Somoza family and the Nicragua earthquake in the 70's. It will sound familiar.

-GSD

Posted by: Granite State Destroyer on January 25, 2006 at 11:11 AM | PERMALINK

And we are not yet talking enough about the looting of the Iraqi reconstruction money by the Repugs.

Posted by: thethirdPaul on January 25, 2006 at 11:24 AM | PERMALINK

While not the stupidest or most ignorant or most incoherent, tbrosz is the most slavish Bush bootlicker of all the Bush-bootlicking mental slaves who comment here. While he postures as a "libertarian", in reality, at every turn he happily supports a corrupt, secretive, authoritarian administration that is the enemy and antithesis of anything having to do with liberty or limited government.

It's not even about cutting taxes as a general principle, just about cutting tbrosz's taxes. Bush's massive deficit spending amounts to a huge tax levied on future taxpayers. Tbrosz doesn't care. He's got his; fuck everybody else. That's the totality of his political so-called "philosophy".

Posted by: SecularAnimist on January 25, 2006 at 11:43 AM | PERMALINK

SecularAnimist,

Tbrosz is no different from any middle-aged hard-core scientologist. He has invested so much in his religion he simply cannot allow reality to enter into his perceptions. To do so would be to admit he has wasted his life and he does not have the courage to do this. He is the skier bombing the slope, afraid to traverse lest he fall, but gathering speed because he cannot traverse, which makes it all the more scary to traverse.

Posted by: Tripp on January 25, 2006 at 12:03 PM | PERMALINK

Incompetent people like Bush and Co. like to hide their incompetence, no surprise there.

Bush is not even good at BS, he does have a big mouth though, remember reults he wants to see, but can,t answer a students question about student loan cuts.

The man either is on vacation or campaigning, knows nothing and does not want to know anything either.

What a FAILURE he is.

Posted by: Renate on January 25, 2006 at 12:04 PM | PERMALINK

Is the Malaysian government still sacking newspaper editors they don't like?

Posted by: Goran on January 25, 2006 at 12:24 PM | PERMALINK

NASA reported yesterday that 2005 was the hottest year on record. In descending order, the years with the highest global average annual temperatures were 2005, 1998, 2002, 2003 and 2004.

Drew Shindell of the NASA Institute says, "It's fair to say that it probably is the warmest since we have modern meteorological records. Using indirect measurements that go back farther, I think it's even fair to say that it's the warmest in the last several thousand years."

Mainstream global warming projections for the 21st century are in the range of 6 to 10 degrees F (3 to 5 degrees C), which Shindell says "will really bring us up to the warmest temperatures the world has experienced probably in the last million years."

There will likely be one or more Katrina-size hurricanes in the Gulf region every year, for many years to come, fueled by the increased energy available from warming ocean waters. In our lifetimes, it is probable that the entire Gulf region will be permanently uninhabitable, and even permanently underwater.

When you look at the Bush administration's negligence, incompetence and corruption in responding to Katrina, keep this in mind: you ain't seen nothin' yet.

Posted by: SecularAnimist on January 25, 2006 at 12:26 PM | PERMALINK

He has invested so much in his religion he simply cannot allow reality to enter into his perceptions.

True story:

Me- Would you like to go out to dinner Saturday?
Girlfriend- Yes. OK with you if my friends Dick & Jane join us?
Me- Sure.
Girlfriend- Dick will meet us at the restaurant, Jane will drive with us to the restaurant.

Three of us drove to restaurant. Dick not there. Due to the length of wait for a table, Jane tells two of us to go to restaurant B and when she hooks up with Dick, they'll join us.

Long story short, girlfriend and I ate alone, Dick & Jane never showed up. Comes out later, Dick changed his mind unilaterally and decided to go home without telling Jane or anyone. Jane, embarrassed by Dick's behavior, was too humiliated to join us for dinner. She called Dick at home and asked that he come and take her home. He was furious at her for making him drive back into town. ...

It took Dick 2-3 days to admit to Jane that he screwed up. Dick is unable to explain or talk about why he did what he did. And, he is--based on my limited experience--a perfectly nice person.

Moral of the story:

Communication skills & introspection are not a given. They need to be learned. And the prospect of admitting error, even to oneself, can be extremely threatening.

That's the connection to tbrosz. It applies to all of us, in varying degrees.

Posted by: obscure on January 25, 2006 at 12:29 PM | PERMALINK

"Blaming Bush for covering up mistakes is like blaming a skunk for stinking. It's the nature of the beast."

-- Mark Kleiman

We might add that blaming conservatives for their lemminglike devotion to the Bush administration is also like blaming the skunk.

It is their nature to be mendacious, immoral, criminal, and unethical.

Posted by: Advocate for God on January 25, 2006 at 12:53 PM | PERMALINK

OT I heard yesterday we where going to release 5 female prisoners from Iraqi prisons. appeaseing the terrorists? Or doing what needs to be done because this hostage works for the Christian Science Monitor?(Close ties to Bush)

Posted by: pssst on January 25, 2006 at 1:05 PM | PERMALINK

Keep in mind Bush is down to 36% approval,That means his base is even turning on him.Hard to believe this man somehow got 60 million votes,somthing stinks about this President.

Posted by: pssst on January 25, 2006 at 1:10 PM | PERMALINK

The president is going to decline all day until Congress gets reasserts itself as a second branch of government. The public has a right and Congress has a duty to protect us from the mistakes of the past.

Sounds like the administration is dragging its feet just like they did during the creation of the September 11th commission. Apparently, accountability is reserved for average American phone calls, not politically appointed bureaucrats.

Posted by: Jon Karak on January 25, 2006 at 1:16 PM | PERMALINK

"...confidentiality of executive branch communications..." is the same thing as "executive privilege"?

Posted by: Brazil Connection on January 25, 2006 at 1:59 PM | PERMALINK

Who the hell does the Executive Branch work for? Us, right?

You can't say these communiques have to be kept secret for national security reasons... that we don't want any potential future hurricanes to be aware of our secret hurricane-abatement techniques.

I just don't understand this one at all.

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It is not necessary for our Imperial King, or his minions, to deign to answer questions from the subjugated bodies of either the House of Unrepentant or the Seenot.

Their impudence should have been punished by public horse-whipping, if not draw and quartering. Their sheer gall of presuming to question His Highness or his decrees will soon be unimaginable, as it is now established that His Majesty IS THE LAW, and possesses the power to abrogate or even rewrite that bogus document the Subjects of this land formerly referred to, quaintly, as their Constitution.

It does give one pause to think: if the Emperor decided to use the US military to attack his domestic enemies, which are legion, WILL THEY COMPLY? Or are there still command grade officers out there that would risk the King's ire for failing to shoot and kill the Royal Highness' citizens?

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The "Katrina Papers" and "Abramhoff Photos" issues smell to me like Trojan Horses designed to get the press off real issues and on to ones that in all likelihood will turn out to be "much ado about nothing".
The press not only has tunnel vision but also one tunnel at a time vision.

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Why isn't "ending secret government" more of a Democratic theme? I think that "Elect Democrats and End Secrecy in Government" is not a bad argument for a change in Congress. Think of all the things the Bush Administration won't tell us -- from the names of the oil executives who planned our "energy policy" with Dick Cheney on down to when the President met with convicted-felon Abramoff. Can anybody make a full list or the number of times he's refused to make important information public?

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Bush quoting Tron: "I plead the fiz-if!"

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Bush whitehouse is run by serious thinkers like McAnus.

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Impeachment.

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"Was it titled: "Katrina determined to strike in New Orleans"?"

Very good, Saam!

Beezledubya asked "Why did Bush travel to birthday parties and guitar fake strumming if he knew how severe the situation was?"

Gosh, BD, the news reports said the WHITE HOUSE knew this was probably going to happen. It doesn't say anything about Cheney telling Bush! He got his beautiful mind from his Mama, donchno, and really can't be bothered by such ugly thoughts.

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"Our CinC is to be commended for refusing to take the bait from the fever-swamp left so quick to lay the blame at his feet. ..."
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The phrase "fever-swamp" must not be new. Someone from the Washington Post used it to refer to Lefty bloggers recently. But, hasn't it always referred more accurately to the loony freepers?

Still, isn't it Karl Rove who is more usually offering bait (remember Dan Rather and the TANG papers?) and then revealing it to be fraudulent?

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"We lost one of our cities. The president stayed on vacation while OUR city died."
Posted by: Constantine on January 25, 2006 at 12:37 AM | PERMALINK

"What do you mean your city, white man! New Orleans is Choctaw land!"
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Pissant! It's part of America, just like NYC on 9/11.

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"Come on, Mr. President. Turn over the emails, stand up and take your criticism like a man. Like Governor Blanco."
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