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January 25, 2006
By: Kevin Drum

DELAY TO ABRAMOFF TO LIVINGSTON....A DC TRIPLE PLAY?....Via Josh, New York Post gossip maven Cindy Adams sez:

Jack Abramoff's partner Mike Scanlon admitted to digging up former Congressman Robert Livingston's private life. Set to become speaker, Livingston then got sidelined for Tom DeLay's man Denis Hastert. Prosecutors now checking if Abramoff and Scanlon took Livingston down at DeLay's behest.

Like Josh, I also say "Hmmm."

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I thought it was Larry Flynt.

Posted by: n.o.l.t.f. on January 25, 2006 at 2:21 PM | PERMALINK

Wow! Scummy dirty tricks by Republicans? I'm shocked!

Posted by: Derelict on January 25, 2006 at 2:23 PM | PERMALINK

According to this article in Time Flynt owned up to it.

But read that article -- it's like it was written during the Victorian Era.

Posted by: n.o.l.t.f. on January 25, 2006 at 2:24 PM | PERMALINK

Who better than Larry Flynt to take the bait and do their dirty work for them? This goes to show that the Republican Party is the natural home of America's assholes.

Posted by: Donna Dallas on January 25, 2006 at 2:27 PM | PERMALINK

butbutbut... Hitlary ! Al Gore !

Posted by: cleek on January 25, 2006 at 2:28 PM | PERMALINK

Filth and venom. Just keep posting this filth and venom, Kevin.

No, really. Keep posting it.

Posted by: shortstop on January 25, 2006 at 2:28 PM | PERMALINK

Conservative Creed

We are morally superior, by birthright, ethnicity, religious values, and political philosophy.

All who do not accept our superiority and share our birthright are our inferiors.

We are morally superior; therefore, we may impose our views and our will in any manner we find convenient and necessary, regardless whether such methods would be immoral, unethical, illegal, or an abomination when used by others.

We are morally superior; therefore, we must prevail and anyone who stands in our way may be destroyed by any means we find convenient and necessary, regardless whether such means would be immoral, unethical, illegal, or an abomination when used by others.

We are morally superior; therefore, we may lie, defame, misrepresent, deceive, or commit acts of
violence in order to prevail against those who oppose us, regardless whether such actions would
be immoral, unethical, illegal, or an bomination when done by others.

We are morally superior; we may not be questioned or criticized by those who are our moral inferiors; therefore, any who oppose us are prohibited from questioning or criticizing our actions or our intentions.

We are nazis, but you may not call us that.

Posted by: Advocate for God on January 25, 2006 at 2:28 PM | PERMALINK

Larry Flint did not get Livingston, But he did get dirt on Bob Barr.

Posted by: pssst on January 25, 2006 at 2:29 PM | PERMALINK

It was the marketplace of ideas! Tom DeLay luuuuvs the constitution more than Bob Livingston, so he won. He even told Chris Matthews what a humble servant and principled man he is.

It's just that simple.

Gosh, you bloggers are so cynical.

Posted by: Flamethrower on January 25, 2006 at 2:30 PM | PERMALINK

Try convincing the voters in November that Repubs are creepy because Abramoff and Scanlon dug up dirt on Livingston in order to make Hastert the speaker.

Posted by: nut on January 25, 2006 at 2:45 PM | PERMALINK

In fairness to Livingston, Louisiana politicians are practically expected to have a mistress or three.

Posted by: MJ Memphis on January 25, 2006 at 2:50 PM | PERMALINK

Well, yeah, MJ, but most of them keep their mouths shut about other people's sex lives, thereby keeping the bullseyes from being painted on their own backs.

Posted by: shortstop on January 25, 2006 at 2:51 PM | PERMALINK

pssst,

Not according to Time:

"Livingston's downfall was the handiwork of Flynt, who took out an ad in the Washington Post two months ago offering up to $1 million to any woman who could prove an affair with a high government official. Several respondents reportedly named Livingston, and suddenly Hustler--whose best-known editorial feature until now was a cover photo of a woman being fed into a meat grinder--was setting the agenda in the capital."

I'm not saying that Scanlon couldn't also have been rooting out blackmail info on Livingston, but Flynt took credit for it. And he claimed to have plenty more scumbags on the hook, so he could have gotten Barr too.

Anyway, from a journalistic standpoint, I believe Flynt over the New York Post, especially that wheezy old hag Cindy Adams.

Posted by: n.o.l.t.f. on January 25, 2006 at 2:57 PM | PERMALINK

How it's done in CA...Arnold-style: http://rallyca.com/node/213

Posted by: CAPoliticalGuy on January 25, 2006 at 3:41 PM | PERMALINK

sorry, here's the clickable url: http://RallyCA.com/node/213

Posted by: CAPoliticalGuy on January 25, 2006 at 3:42 PM | PERMALINK

look at what newt did to bob walker....

yet he still carries their water..

no self esteem...

Posted by: thisspaceavailable on January 25, 2006 at 3:53 PM | PERMALINK

Yeah, schwarzenegger is a maroon. Here are some more articles on his latest campaign maneuvers:

la times him ducking the tough issues.

Washington Post on his huge team of right-wing campaign operatives.

Posted by: sfc on January 25, 2006 at 3:55 PM | PERMALINK

OH MY GOD! That sounds like more conspiracy-nut thinking! Are you a conspiracy wacko, Kevin??

Posted by: Monstertron on January 25, 2006 at 4:16 PM | PERMALINK

Hey! Can you guys cut that racket out back there?! Much appreciated.

Posted by: parrot on January 25, 2006 at 4:36 PM | PERMALINK

Conservative Creed

We are morally superior, etc.

It is not a conservative creed. It is a Republican party creed, which is a much different matter. Adherence to the separation of powers is a conservative doctrine. Correspondingly the idea of an independent judiciary. And more generlly, the ancient principle that no man shall be the judge of his own case. Etc. etc. The Bushies have done a good job of cartooning liberalism, but they have also degraded the tradition of honorable conservatism.

Posted by: buce on January 25, 2006 at 4:48 PM | PERMALINK

Anyway, from a journalistic standpoint, I believe Flynt over the New York Post

But if Scanlon was giving the information to Larry (and asked not to be identified as the source or gave it via third party) then both could be correct.

It's not rocket science.

Posted by: Thumb on January 25, 2006 at 5:09 PM | PERMALINK

I believe Larry Flynt would take credit for it whether or not his offer worked and was responsible.

I also believe DeLay would have sicced Scanlon on Livingston, too.

Thing is, usually these affairs are "known" by quite a few folk.

Posted by: Cal Gal on January 25, 2006 at 5:27 PM | PERMALINK

This is a major non-story.

Flynt issue aside, where's the crime?

It is certainly not criminal to dig up dirt on a political opponent and use that info to drive him from office.

It's as old as the republic. Hell, Jefferson did it to Adams.

Posted by: Don on January 25, 2006 at 9:29 PM | PERMALINK

It looks like both sides are trying to claim they're the lowest scummiest dirtiest possible.

It's plain weird.

Posted by: MarkH on January 25, 2006 at 10:07 PM | PERMALINK

Hmmm, what?

Posted by: NealB on January 25, 2006 at 11:47 PM | PERMALINK

While they were at it, they should have blamed Livingston for the death of that boat-cruise guy who Scanlon had bumped off. Oh, I guess he wasn't dead yet. Just shows poor planning on their part. In the end, the Indians will get blamed for everything.

Posted by: Kenji on January 26, 2006 at 3:24 AM | PERMALINK

buce: It is not a conservative creed. It is a Republican party creed . . .

Point taken, in general, but with the caveat that a lot of conservatives not nominally Republicans continue to support Bush and the GOP in their actions, so it applies equally to them.

Posted by: Advocate for God on January 26, 2006 at 12:08 PM | PERMALINK

re "Conservative Creed" this dovetails well with U.C. Berkeley Professor of Lingustics and Cognitive Science George Lakoff's theories. Lakoff, author of Moral Politics: How Liberals and Conservatives Think and Don't Think of an Elephant: Know Your Values and Frame the Debate--The Essential Guide for Progressives, describe the moral system of American conservatives as "Strict Father Morality." The most important value of Strict Father Morality is promoting Strict Father Morality. From that principle, the "Conservative Creed" follows.

Posted by: Joel Rubinstein on January 26, 2006 at 4:07 PM | PERMALINK




 

 

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