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January 30, 2006
By: Kevin Drum

DEAN AND THE DNC....Steve Benen takes a look at Howard Dean's fundraising priorities or, more accurately, his fund spending priorities and links to an article in Roll Call that reports serious angst on the subject among party leaders:

As the piece explains, Dean spent freely in 2005, developing infrastructure and nurturing state and local parties as part of his broader, long-term vision.

This represents something of a sea-change in how the party operates. For years, the party has bolstered the DNC coffers towards helping boost congressional candidates. This year, the DNC offers a key year, with the opportunity to take back Congress on everyone's mind, but start off without much in the bank about a seventh of what the RNC has on hand.

I'm inclined to think that Dean is doing the right thing, because in the end I suspect that Democrats will be able to raise sufficient money for every specific race that's worth contesting this year. Conversely, if you put off the infrastructure rebuilding yet again because an election is coming up, when are you going to start? Sure, it's painful, but it has to be done. Better now than later.

And besides, this is the exact issue he campaigned on when he ran for DNC chair. It's not like anyone can say that his priorities come as a surprise.

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If more people -- particularly Dem "insiders" -- would let Howard be Howard, the party would be much better off.

Posted by: Doofus on January 30, 2006 at 2:34 PM | PERMALINK

I'm sure GOP operatives would ridicule this effort as futile. But the alternative is worse -- hearing them gloat that the Dems aren't really a "national" party -- as if the Republicans have any better claim to that title. It's a coded way of saying they have the white vote.

Posted by: Martin on January 30, 2006 at 2:38 PM | PERMALINK

elections are won from the bottom up. if you don't have resources at the precinct level, you ain't gonna win at the state or national levels. go howard.

Posted by: mudwall jackson on January 30, 2006 at 2:40 PM | PERMALINK

Dean speaks for me! And our Democracy Bonds are paying off right here in Montana, where we have a a paid organizer helping revive democratic central committees in all 56 Montana counties.

Screw the beltway bandits that would rather spend the money on TV adds to enrich Fox News and GE-NBC.

Posted by: Ed in Montana on January 30, 2006 at 2:40 PM | PERMALINK

Our Congressional wankers and other "insiders" should just shut up and stay the hell out of Dean's way. Fat lot of good that bunch of losers has been doing for the party lo these many years.

Posted by: Steve LaBonne on January 30, 2006 at 2:41 PM | PERMALINK

God, what does it take for some "Democratic insiders" to just STFU? The press is not your friend, if it ever was, on stuff like this.

Posted by: Jim Madison's Dog on January 30, 2006 at 2:41 PM | PERMALINK

Translation: Dem "insiders" and terminal losers like Bob Shrum aren't getting the money they used to get, and they are whining about it.

Boo-freakin'-hoo. How many elections have these insiders won lately?

Posted by: Doctor Gonzo on January 30, 2006 at 2:45 PM | PERMALINK

Kos:

If it was up to these DC insiders, Dean would hoard tens of millions to dump into television later this year, just as the DNC has done in the past. And just like in the past, the DNC would parcel out its advertising contracts to all the various consultancies to spread the money around, they would all take their nice fact commissions, and they'd laugh all the way to the bank as the local parties further atrophied and the Dems lost yet another election.

Posted by: lucidity on January 30, 2006 at 2:46 PM | PERMALINK

Could someone with Lexis/Nexis compile a tally of the number of articles with Dems criticizing Dean vs. those with Reps criticizing Mehlman?

Posted by: Alan in SF on January 30, 2006 at 2:48 PM | PERMALINK

CLICK THE LINK. ALWAYS CLICK THE LINK. In the link it says Democrats are LOSING money because of Dean. Why do libs always support losers like Dean?

"Democratic leaders on Capitol Hill are privately bristling over Howard Dean's management of the Democratic National Committee and have made those sentiments clear after new fundraising numbers showed he has spent nearly all the committee's cash and has little left to support their efforts to gain seats this cycle.

Several well-informed Democratic sources said Congressional leaders were furious last week when they learned the DNC has just $5.5 million in the bank, compared to the Republican National Committee's $34 million.

Sources also indicated that Senate and House Minority Leaders Harry Reid (Nev.) and Nancy Pelosi (Calif.), along with the Senate and House campaign committee chairmen Charles Schumer (N.Y.) and Rahm Emanuel (Ill.), have made their concerns directly or indirectly known to Dean."

Posted by: Al on January 30, 2006 at 2:50 PM | PERMALINK

You're so cute when you're angry, Al.

Posted by: Kevin Drum on January 30, 2006 at 2:56 PM | PERMALINK

So, in total: Dean brought in a LOT more money in 2005 than was brought in in 2003, even though 2005 should be a nadir fundraising year. He's cut the GOP money advantage from 3 to 1 to 2 to 1, despite the fact that campaign finance reform was more damanging to Democratic fundraising than GOP fundraising.

Dean did this DESPITE the fact that he spends as much time -- if not more -- fundraising for state parties and candidates, instead of breezing in, sucking up the dough for the DNC, and breezing out.

And he's spending money on state parties -- badly in need of cash and better infrastructure -- instead of hoarding it for useless ass national ad campaigns.

The fucking whiny-ass consultants can cry me a goddamn river. Maybe if they'd WON anything, I'd give a shit.

Posted by: Morat on January 30, 2006 at 2:59 PM | PERMALINK

Albot2.0 is a powerful learning Algorithm.

Albot2.0 states: Read for content, always READ FOR CONTENT!

Albot2.0 reads for content. Albot2.0 learns that Howard Dean has raised more money in an off year than any preceding DNC chair. Albot2.0 also learns that Howard Dean has shifted spending priorities toward building infrastructure, which Albot2.0 has learned is something the Democratic party has needed to do for a long time. In short, Albot2.0 is impressed.

Posted by: Albot2.0 on January 30, 2006 at 2:59 PM | PERMALINK

Kos has something to say about this

Posted by: craigie on January 30, 2006 at 3:01 PM | PERMALINK

The implication: everyone who wanted to see Dean lead the DNC and who wants to see Dean's transformation succeed should give money to the DNC and the DCCC now.

I'll go write a check or two when I get home.

Posted by: Matt Austern on January 30, 2006 at 3:01 PM | PERMALINK

What Morat said. Dean is looking at the long term. I say give him a chance.

Posted by: cq on January 30, 2006 at 3:11 PM | PERMALINK

Wow, surprising unity on this thread. Chalk me up as another Dem who supports Dean on this one. The Republicans built their majority over 40 years, and it's going to take more than one election cycle to dismantle it.

Posted by: Adam S. on January 30, 2006 at 3:29 PM | PERMALINK

Dean is doing the right thing. After Florida in 2000, the Dems did nothing in that state until about August of 2004. Meanwhile, the GOP was constantly organizing and registering voters.

Dems got a lot of late voters registered, but over time, the GOP probably garnered more. Dems have to get away from election cycle politics to stand a chance and that is what Dean is doing. It's painful, but in the longer term, it's what needs to be done. Of course, we got lucky this year that the GOP's corruption is finally making it into the news. Means we'll have to spend less to beat the GOP.

Posted by: gq on January 30, 2006 at 3:35 PM | PERMALINK

As for campaigning on it -- remember, he these same whining consultants seriouslly opposed him getting the DNC job in the first place.

It's like a freakin' junior high. "I'm still totally pissed that Dean got to go to the dance and I didn't. I'm like totally going to tell people he has cooties!".

Posted by: Morat on January 30, 2006 at 3:37 PM | PERMALINK

It's ALWAYS campaign season. Even if you're not out there throwing adds, your working out strategy, compiling lists, keeping morale high. Lots to do even in off years.

Posted by: MNPundit on January 30, 2006 at 3:39 PM | PERMALINK

My first thought is that they didnt expect his 50 State Strategy to actually cost MONEY. The fat kittens are mad because the runts got a turn at the nipple. The party has been circling the drain for a while, and I think the good old boys/gals still dont understand that their strategies werent working. The biggest thing I took away from the 21st century Democrats training session was that my state didnt matter to the Democratic Party.

I really hope that they discover a new source of support in the states where Dean has been spending the money. Where ELSE is the party going to get fresh money and volunteers?


Sarah G

Posted by: SarahG on January 30, 2006 at 3:47 PM | PERMALINK

I'm really impressed with what Howard Dean has done. About 8 months before the 2004 election, I tried to get in touch with the local Dem office here in Reno to see what I could do. I got zero response. This past November, our newly funded and staffed office put together a training day for activists and about 100 people showed up. Out of this, I met a lot of people and was able to do some networking with Dems in my community. Now, I'm putting together a fundraiser for our candidate in the 2nd congressional district. I know next to zero about political fundraising and the people I met there have been invaluable in helping me pull it together.

Now, I know I'm only one data point, but the approach Dean has taken is helping us build (or, I should say, strengthen) a democratic community at the residential community level. It may not leave as much money for television ads, but its going to get people interested and voting, and that's what we need.

And, I think Kevin is right; the money for the tv ads is going to get raised. Dr. Derby (our candidate for congree( has already raised over half a million dollars - about 1/3 to 1/2 of what she likely needs to win. This early in the election, that's pretty remarkable. Something's working.

Posted by: Scott Herbst on January 30, 2006 at 3:54 PM | PERMALINK

Probably the most encouraging thread I've read here *ever*.

Not only no trolls -- but not one single word of dissent (well, not counting Al -- and who would? :)

Abso-fucking-lutely. *This* is what the Dems have to do -- more important than policy papers, more important than any grand strategic gesture. They have to build the party, *period*. This is *all* about cowardly Democratic consultants hiding behind Roll Call.

I *only wish* rdw would show up right now and try to burst this "bubble" of ours :)

Bob

Posted by: rmck1 on January 30, 2006 at 4:02 PM | PERMALINK

I get the sense that the issue isn't that Dean's priorities are costing money, or that fundraising isn't going well - I think it's a mixed bag, and Dean does turn some people off; they may be people worth turning off, but money is money, especially in this case. I think the bigger question, and it came up during his presidential campaign, is that Dean is a spender, an "invest now for paybacks later" guy, and (and I say it with love) somewhat "rich girl" in his spending habits (i.e. there's always more money where that came from). I think people would be less skittish if he didn't do a LOT of spending right away. A scaled plan, or something that involved spreading outlays out a bit might have calmed some of that concern.

Posted by: weboy on January 30, 2006 at 4:02 PM | PERMALINK

weboy:

Dean is the *last* thing from a "rich girl," spending-wise. Have you ever read about how he lives?

The guy is a tightwad's tightwad.

The spending problems in the primary had to do with Dean's dysfunctional relationship with Bob Shrum's ol' buddy Joe Trippi.

Trippi screwed the pooch in Iowa. What Dean is doing has doubtless little to do with overspending.

Bob

Posted by: rmck1 on January 30, 2006 at 4:06 PM | PERMALINK


I'm sure GOP operatives would ridicule this effort as futile. But the alternative is worse -- hearing them gloat that the Dems aren't really a "national" party -- as if the Republicans have any better claim to that title. It's a coded way of saying they have the white vote.

Posted by: Martin on January 30, 2006 at 4:10 PM | PERMALINK

I have always supported Dean. He's not only a great thing for Republicans, but he's fun as hell to watch.

Posted by: conspiracy nut on January 30, 2006 at 4:17 PM | PERMALINK

Dean's efforts have now helped to place Dem precinct captains in thousands of precincts that have not had any in over 20 years.

That's a good thing. Go Howard!

Posted by: bryrock on January 30, 2006 at 4:22 PM | PERMALINK

Yeah I guess Dean might appear funny to some, personally I find watching all the indicted Republicans squirming around kind of funny too.

Posted by: cq on January 30, 2006 at 4:23 PM | PERMALINK

I think the point is that I'm not getting as much of the money as I'm accustomed. My consultants say we need more money to pay consultants and more money to buy advertising. Advertising is not cheap as you have to figure in the 10% that goes to my consultants. I question the logic of having a local DNC ground team when everyone knows you can win an election if you just pay your consultants enough.

Posted by: congressman on January 30, 2006 at 4:26 PM | PERMALINK

My congressional district is represented by John Sweeney (yes I'm ashamed). I can't remember the last time a Democrat was funded to run for congress in NY 20

Posted by: cq on January 30, 2006 at 4:28 PM | PERMALINK

personally I find watching all the indicted Republicans squirming around kind of funny too
Clearly your sense of humor is out of whack. The indicted ones are predictable, no joy there. I like watching the ones that haven't been caught yet, they're much more unpredictable in how they will squirm.

Posted by: conspiracy nut on January 30, 2006 at 4:39 PM | PERMALINK

I'm with Morat and the others. The complaints about Dean don't impress me at all, given the track record of those complaining.

Posted by: Gregory on January 30, 2006 at 4:40 PM | PERMALINK

Cartoon sums it all up,

http://villagevoice.com/news/0605,sutton,71959,9.html

Posted by: cld on January 30, 2006 at 4:44 PM | PERMALINK

Dean is doing the right thing. It's very unromantic and fairly boring, but it has to be done if you want to build the kind of organization that can get out the vote and actually win.

For God's sake, the last people you ever want to listen to are beltway insiders and so-called Dem pundits. They are completely worthless. Whatever Micky Kaus says, do the opposite.

Posted by: Ringo on January 30, 2006 at 4:50 PM | PERMALINK
For God's sake, the last people you ever want to listen to are beltway insiders and so-called Dem pundits.

Second to last, I'd say. The last people you (or at least, I) want to listen to are Republicans offering helpful advice to Democrats, which usually amounts to "stop challenging Republicans on the few issues where your party still openly disagrees with the Republican position -- especially the one's that polls show the public is on the Democratic side -- and you'll do a lot better."

Posted by: cmdicely on January 30, 2006 at 5:08 PM | PERMALINK

The last people you (or at least, I) want to listen to are Republicans offering helpful advice to Democrats
Mind, I'm aware my behavior here doesn't support paying attention to me; but I am serious with the rest of this even though you cannot apply it to what I write here.

I think that 2 viable parties are necessary, for the obvious reason that a one party system is no way to do gov't. And I would like the Dems to be a viable opposition party; I do not believe they currently are. With all the things that Bush and Congress have flat ran amok with, I think I have a defensible point.

For that reason, I could give constructive criticism to Dems. I know you're interested in putting the Dems back in power, but if you can't even be viable opposition...

Posted by: conspiracy nut on January 30, 2006 at 5:19 PM | PERMALINK

Kevin: I suspect that Democrats will be able to raise sufficient money for every specific race that's worth contesting this year.

Would you like to turn that into a prediction and then see, hypothesis-testing-wise, whether your prediction comes true?

I predict that every Republican congressman or woman embroiled in scandal will be either re-elected or replaced by another Republican.

I further predict that, if Dean keeps up with this strategy (which is beyond my power and knowledge) that Democratic candidates for congress will have their campaigns starved of funds.

Dean does a really good job of raising money for extreme Deaniac views, but in the end the middle voters and donors move away from him. He has put the infrastructure in place for Deaniacs to dominate the discourse in Democratic primaries, and possibly win them; but the Democratic candidates who emerge will on the whole enhance the Republican majority.

I previously predicted that the Democratic filibuster on Alito (more properly, the threat to filibuster and the subsequent cloture vote) would help the Republicans. We'll see whose predictions are most unambiguously confirmed or disconfirmed.

Posted by: contentious on January 30, 2006 at 5:23 PM | PERMALINK

Thanks for reminding us, rmck1 about Dean's personal frugality. And let us not forget how he actually governed in Vermont - far from throwing money at problems, he was a fiscal conservative to his bones. This is the irony in his national reputation: his opposition to the war framed him as a man of the left, overshadowing that he was in fact a pragmatic, more or less DLC-aligned politician


Posted by: Tbrosz watch on January 30, 2006 at 5:37 PM | PERMALINK

extreme Deaniac views

And what would those be? C'mon, I want specifics.

You can't do it, because he's not an extremist.

But you are a wanker.

Posted by: hamletta on January 30, 2006 at 5:48 PM | PERMALINK

Up to 2002 the Democratic ground war was carried out by the labor unions. This changed a bit in 2004 when labor was joined by ACT and America Votes.

The AFL-CIO split up this year and ACT disbanded. Dean MUST develop a ground level political structure or else there's absolutely no way to do GOTV for the Dems.

Anybody on the Hill who doesn't understand this basic fact is a fool.

Posted by: b on January 30, 2006 at 5:51 PM | PERMALINK

>And besides, this is the exact issue he campaigned on when he ran for DNC chair

Well it never occurred to the DC insiders that you might not just be saying what people want to hear, but what you actually believe. So therefore their shock.

Bush is stupid but he deserves one positive historical note: his observation that political capital is to be spent when you have it.

And I think that includes that capital literally counted in dollars. Start breaking ground now, no more of this every-4-years-shit.

More than enough money will be available for the campaigns themselves.

Posted by: doesn't matter on January 30, 2006 at 5:57 PM | PERMALINK

I'm aware my behavior here doesn't support paying attention to me

c.n. gets it right for once.

Posted by: Gregory on January 30, 2006 at 6:03 PM | PERMALINK

... It just occurred to me how REALLY fucking stupid this whole thing is -

People gave Dean a record amount of money in 2005. If they fucking wanted him to spend it in 2006 then they would have given it to him in 2006, now wouldn't they? It's not like it's some great tax deduction or something.

Here's a hit from a businessman: if your boss gives you a an open budget of some size in 2005 and tells you to do something smart with it, if you tell him at Christmas "I decided to save it for next year" you shouldn't be too suprised when he lights into your ass.

Posted by: doesn't matter on January 30, 2006 at 6:04 PM | PERMALINK

Up to 2002 the Democratic ground war was carried out by the labor unions. This changed a bit in 2004 when labor was joined by ACT and America Votes.

The AFL-CIO split up this year and ACT disbanded. Dean MUST develop a ground level political structure or else there's absolutely no way to do GOTV for the Dems.

Anybody on the Hill who doesn't understand this basic fact is a fool.

Posted by: b on January 30, 2006 at 5:51 PM | PERMALINK


b: a few corrections, though not a disagreement on your general argument.

Your characterization of the AFL-CIO split last year misses the point that both the AFL-CIO and the unions that split away continue to exist and will be very active in 2006 and 2008. And they might even find a way of cooperating. Their big disagreement is over how to organize - a problem they need to solve or we won't have much of a base left. 100,000 more union members in Ohio in 2004 and today's fight would be over a Republican congress denying an "upperdown vote" to President Kerry's choice for the Supreme Court.

Both the AFL-CIO and the Change To Win unions will be out mobilizing their members and their members' families in the next cycle.

Moreover, labor wasn't "joined" by ACT; the other way around - ACT was fundamentally - though certainly not exclusively - a union formation. It was not without its problems, to be sure, but it is not as if the alternatives are Dean's efforts or nothing. Rather, what Dean is doing at the DNC is not only consistent with, but very clearly integrated into what the unions and America Votes are trying to do: build a real party base that can be a long-term force for change.


Posted by: Friend of Labor on January 30, 2006 at 6:12 PM | PERMALINK

The rapidly changing media have rendered national air wars are almost a thing of the past. Don't get me wrong, I do believe there will alwsys be a need for a national campaign and a national voice, but the days of winning campaigns on the basis of 30 second spots alone might be coming to an end. Television ain't just three networks anymore. There are just too many different television channels. Dean is probably very smart. Local grassroots organization is going to be more and more important. We have to compete with local pulpits. Elections are monitored at the state and local level. Strong local organizations provide the best way to insure an honest election process.

Posted by: Ron Byers on January 30, 2006 at 6:31 PM | PERMALINK

DEANS ATTACK ON HARRY REID ON FOX NEWS SUNDAY WAS PRICELESS

Posted by: Patton on January 30, 2006 at 8:00 PM | PERMALINK

I'll be right in there supporting the Dean moves also. I donate when I have the resources to do so, but I get solicitations from literally dozens of Dem causes from which I must pick and choose. I trust Howard Dean and will continue to support his leadership while living in the red state of Alabama.

My one hope would be that there would be some sort of movement to energize the Dems in Alabama. We continually are left out of the national dialogue, but I sincerely feel that there is a huge opportunity in this state. Let me also say that there should be some movement to energize the hispanic vote and to get the legals to the polls.

I have felt for a long time that this could become a tipping point in several southern states.

Posted by: fred on January 30, 2006 at 9:15 PM | PERMALINK

Dean rocks, that's for sure.

But even Dean can't save the DNC from the DLC.

The DLC FUCKED the Democratic party today. Instead of standing firm and fighting for their constituency, they bent over, dropped trou, spread their cheeks, and offered pre-heated lube up to the Republicans.

Until the DLC influence is purged from the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party cannot represent its consituency. And until they do that, Dem voters are going to stay home in ways that the Evangelical voters do not.

Posted by: osama_been_forgotten on January 30, 2006 at 9:28 PM | PERMALINK

Gregory: I'm with Morat and the others. The complaints about Dean don't impress me at all, given the track record of those complaining.

I agree. And Dean rocks.

Posted by: Apollo 13 on January 30, 2006 at 10:20 PM | PERMALINK

Dean has to be doing something right. I'd be worried as hell if everyone in DC were happy with him.

And, personally, Kos has the best take on this--Dean has moved the money out to the state organizations and taken it away from the Carville/Begala/Shrum types and that's a damned good thing as well.

Posted by: Pale Rider on January 30, 2006 at 10:39 PM | PERMALINK

I am a Howard Dean man.

If it were not for the good doctor, surely one of the last sane politicians left in this country, I would say to hell with it and move to Canada. The fact that Dean is the head of the DNC encourages me immensely. He is a terrific manager and smart as hell. The Terry McAuliffe strategy has been repudiated.

Buy your Democracy Bonds now!

Posted by: NJC on January 31, 2006 at 12:06 AM | PERMALINK

Dean is a good man and is moving the money smart, but he's not superman. The Dems had better start connecting with the populous in a real way, I am waiting for some of them with fortitude to step forward and be counted. If that does not happen soon, all the money shifting in the world ain't gonna matter. Business as usual will not cut it at this point, people will have to see a real commitment by this party to address the serious issues of the day in a reasonable manner, or they will not get involved. The ultra-right must be delt with along with the corporate grip that has dominated a consolidated media, poll watching number crunchers will not suffice. If the MS Dems believe they are going to skate in a little at a time as the rankist of the tainted Repubs are culled away in 06' and 08'...I think they should reconsider that one, because these seats are not going to be given up that quickly by the Right-wing. The stand on Alito is a start, but much to little and late in the effort, the Dems had better start communicating with each other along with the constituency and differentiate themselves from the Repubs, and shed their reticent posture.

Posted by: Ben Merc on January 31, 2006 at 12:14 AM | PERMALINK

This lifelong labor Democrat has just one thing to say: long live Dean. I just sent the DNC a check, the first of the year, with more to follow, just like last year: the guy knows how to do politics. Hoarding the money in order to spend it on the loser consultants and political failures who put the party where it is now makes no sense at all.

Posted by: Michael on January 31, 2006 at 1:57 AM | PERMALINK

The implication: everyone who wanted to see Dean lead the DNC and who wants to see Dean's transformation succeed should give money to the DNC and the DCCC now.

I'll go write a check or two when I get home.
Posted by: Matt Austern on January 30, 2006 at 3:01 PM

Matt,

Please send 2 checks to the DNC and NONE to the DCCC. Rahm Emanuel is using the DCCC to oppose progressive candidates (whose first allegiance will be to grassroots Democrats, NOT to the entrenched Party leadership). If you must give to the DCCC, please wait until after all the State primaries are over so Rahm can't use the money to screw the same grassroots that Dean is trying to build. (Unlike the DCCC, the DNC does NOT meddle in primary battles.)

Posted by: Jim in Chicago on January 31, 2006 at 4:03 AM | PERMALINK

Dean clearly sends a lot of sitting Democrats over the edge. Gephardt, Biden, Lieberman, Kerry all have flamed him over the years.

But guess what? Dean's basically been right, both politically and policy wise.

The Terry McAuliffe (Clinton, really) strategy failed. The GOP took the White House, the House, the Senate, and now the Supreme Court. The big donors also got coopted by the K Street Project. The Democrats can't try the same tactics again - they've lost too often.

Second, as far as pollicy all these leaders advocated going along with the Iraq War being the biggest example. Again, Dean's been right - on every major policy question Dean has bluntly said what's happening, the establishment howled, and a year or two down the road, Dean's been proven right. (Also on deficit and a few other items too.)

So, given that record, why the attacks on Dean? Well, two theories.

1) Consultants don't want the taps turned off. The existing core of Democratic consultants are rendered more or less irrelevant by this new strategy. They want their business and are fighting with every tool they have to keep it.

2) Don't you hate it when someone's right? The DC based Senators and Congressmen know they sold out their party and hate being proven so completely and publicly wrong. They're desperately trying to rationalize why they shot the messenger.

Because in the end Dean is a moderate, fiscally prudent democrat. He went "liberal" on only one issue: Iraq. And he loudly called out his party on it. And that has shaped his image ever since.

Posted by: Samuel Knight on January 31, 2006 at 10:47 AM | PERMALINK

Interesting that Massachusetts is the most liberal of states and also has a very high per capita income.

Given left wing rhetoric wouldnt you assume that most residents of Massachusetts would be transferring there wealth to those poorer? Shouldnt the per capita income of Massachusetts be at or below the national/world average? Do the liberals of Massachusetts hate the nations/worlds poor?

I cant even imagine how much of the worlds resources the progressives of Massachusetts consume.

Here are two addresses so the progressive audience can walk the talk.

IRS
Kansas City, MO

UN
NY, NY

Be an example. Send your money now! The average person on this planet only lives on $3500 per year. Isnt it the rhetoric of the progressives to live locally act globally not!

Posted by: mark on January 31, 2006 at 10:52 AM | PERMALINK

Mark,

And yet those high-paying people in Massachucetts got a tax cut.

Pretty awesome country, or what?

Posted by: Pale Rider on January 31, 2006 at 11:12 AM | PERMALINK

Mark,

And all those highly paid people in Massachucetts got a tax cut from a Republican President.

Pretty awesome country or what?

Or are you of the opinion that people in Alabama got more of a benefit from tax cuts for the wealthy?

Seems to me Bush took care of Blue State Massachucetts a damn sight better than he did reliably Red State Alabama, and gave 'Bama the finger to boot.

Posted by: Pale Rider on January 31, 2006 at 11:15 AM | PERMALINK

Whoops--another double post.

Is there a server problem again today? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

I doubt Mark will be able to stagger back to the keyboard after that double whammy.

Posted by: Pale Rider on January 31, 2006 at 11:16 AM | PERMALINK

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In Dec Dean raised less than 1/2 the RNC and has less than 1/5 on hand. He also spent less than 1/2. This is the same disaster as his primary campaign. He spent a ton and never came in better than 3rd.

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