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January 31, 2006
By: Kevin Drum

STATE OF THE UNION 2005 LIVEBLOGGING....Another year, another State of the Union address to liveblog. Shall we begin?

Wrapup: The international part of the speech was mushier, more platitudinous than usual. In fact, what's interesting is that I think that entire section of the address could have been given by a President Kerry with no more than a few sentences changed.

The domestic stuff was just a laundry list. And what happened to healthcare? That was supposed to be a big focus of the speech, but he barely mentioned it. Nothing about tax reform, either. If he's serious about the clean energy stuff and the basic physical research, that's good news, but I'll bet he isn't. I'll wait to see the actual numbers on all that stuff. And the plea from Karl Rove's boss for bipartisan comity was either laughable or revolting, depending on your temperament. But it might play well in Peoria.

Overall, it was an ode to the era of Clintonian "small bore" initiatives. I suppose that's for the best.

A full transcript of the speech is here.

10:05 52 minutes. And a stirring wrapup. Except that Bush really doesn't do "stirring" all that well. Oh well.

9:57 Human-animal hybrids? Huh?

9:55 "We must never give in to the belief that America is on the decline." How Carter-esque.

9:54 Fewer abortions than anytime in the past three decades? Is that true? [UPDATE: Apparently it is. According to the Alan Guttmacher Institute, the abortion rate has declined every year since its peak in 1990.]

9:51 The increase in basic research funding sounds good. I wonder if it's for real? The investment tax credit stuff will be popular in Silicon Valley.

9:49 The R&D stuff he's talking about for clean energy research doesn't really sound like much. I wonder what those percentage increases come to in actual dollars?

9:47 HSA watch: Bush wants to make them available to small businesses and make them more portable. Is that it? That's not much for all the HSA hype we've been hearing for the past couple of weeks.

9:44 Now a reference to Clinton. That makes the score 4-1 in favor of references to former Democratic presidents. Aren't there any former Republican presidents he wants to give a shout out to?

9:41 Still with the business about cutting the deficit in half by 2009? Sheesh. I think Kash took care of that one a couple of days ago.

9:39 "Roosevelt to Truman to Kennedy to Reagan"? What happened to Ike and Nixon and Ford and Dad? Is Bush embarrassed of his own party?

9:37 By the way, Matt lost ten bucks a few minutes ago....

9:34 Yep, he's on the offensive about the NSA's domestic spying program complete with lies about previous presidents doing the same thing and federal courts having approved it. Points for chutzpah, though.

9:32 Who are these "isolationists" Bush keeps talking about?

9:23 In Iraq, "we've changed our approach to reconstruction." Didn't we just cut the budget for reconstruction to zero? That's more than just a "change," isn't it?

9:17 Hmmm, the Palestinians were left out of Bush's list of emerging democracies in the Middle East. Isn't that odd?

9:00 Wolf Blitzer on Dick Cheney and Dennis Hastert: "They look mighty good there together, don't they?" Give me a break.

8:59 Cindy Sheehan tried to unfold a banner and got arrested by Capitol Police? Sheesh.

8:56 Let's see, George Bush has already adopted John Kerry's Iran policy, and tonight he will apparently adopt Jimmy Carter's energy policy as well. "America is addicted to oil," we are reliably informed he will tell us. Let's keep a sharp eye out for FDR references too, shall we?

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9/11....Ha! I said it first.

Posted by: elmo on January 31, 2006 at 9:08 PM | PERMALINK

Sheehan/Obama 08.

Posted by: Freedom Fighter on January 31, 2006 at 9:09 PM | PERMALINK

god, isn't there bowling on or something?

Posted by: sluggo on January 31, 2006 at 9:11 PM | PERMALINK

I just turned on the television. Did I hear Chris Matthews just say that Condi Rice is one of the most popular members of Bush's cabinet? I think I'll be switching over to CNN.

Posted by: Tuna on January 31, 2006 at 9:11 PM | PERMALINK

Sheehan/Obama 08.
Michael Moore/Al Gore 08

Posted by: Al on January 31, 2006 at 9:11 PM | PERMALINK

Al,

Why don't you go jack off in the closet or something?

Posted by: Vinnie on January 31, 2006 at 9:14 PM | PERMALINK

and chris matthews saying "there's one of the most popular people in the country: Condeleezza Rice"....come on! this guy is pathetic.

Posted by: Steve L on January 31, 2006 at 9:14 PM | PERMALINK

I'd watch on C-SPAN if you value your sanity.

Posted by: elmo on January 31, 2006 at 9:14 PM | PERMALINK

We interrupt our programming to bring you the WIMP.

Yep, hes a bigger WIMP than his father.

Posted by: Sideline on January 31, 2006 at 9:15 PM | PERMALINK

Sheehan/Obama 08.
Michael Moore/Al Gore 08

Allen/Abramoff 08
McCain/DeLay 08

LOL!

Posted by: Apollo 13 on January 31, 2006 at 9:16 PM | PERMALINK

Here comes the coward.

Posted by: Vinnie on January 31, 2006 at 9:16 PM | PERMALINK

Steve L, you inspired me to take a very quick look at condoleeza rice approval numbers in the polls. i didn't have timet to hunt that much, but last november, her approval was 52%.

now, if like chris matthews, you think the only people that matter in the country are george bush, dick cheney, don rumsfeld, and tom delay, i guess you would conclude that condoleeza rice is one of the most popular people in the country....

Posted by: howard on January 31, 2006 at 9:18 PM | PERMALINK

Jesus, the freeper thread already has 1500 posts.

Here's a sampling:

The President!!! The Republicans are cheering loudly!

When they announced the prez, I stood up and cheered.

Posted by: B on January 31, 2006 at 9:18 PM | PERMALINK

I'll second the cspan motion

Posted by: eeff on January 31, 2006 at 9:18 PM | PERMALINK

hey, the opening line caught me off guard. good for him. think thats the last time ill say that. good for him.

Posted by: Steve L on January 31, 2006 at 9:19 PM | PERMALINK

very true howard. if its just them, she's got 100% approval.

Posted by: Steve L on January 31, 2006 at 9:20 PM | PERMALINK

On conservative blogs, Condi is by far the top pick as 2008 wildcard. Guiliani is a distant 2nd.

Posted by: B on January 31, 2006 at 9:21 PM | PERMALINK

First the BBC tells us Bush will chide us for our energy addiction... then they cut away to the presidential SUV motorcade the length of a football field....

He is just such a fiend.

Posted by: Ashley on January 31, 2006 at 9:21 PM | PERMALINK

...I still can't find any bowling...

Posted by: sluggo on January 31, 2006 at 9:21 PM | PERMALINK

I can't even tune in for a second, afraid I'll or something. It's their night, let em have it and the take solace that last's year SOTU address marked the beginning of a really terrific year for bush. Here's to three more.

Posted by: The fake Fake Al on January 31, 2006 at 9:22 PM | PERMALINK

Fear, fear,fear,fear....here we go now, Fear,fear,fear fear!

Posted by: elmo on January 31, 2006 at 9:23 PM | PERMALINK

Wow. 9/11, Terror, and WMD. He's playing all of his greatest hits earlier than expected.

Posted by: Tuna on January 31, 2006 at 9:23 PM | PERMALINK

only the 5th paragraph for 9/11. not bad.

Posted by: Steve L on January 31, 2006 at 9:24 PM | PERMALINK

Is it me, or have we now hit the point where a Bush speech is like the old Far Side "How Dogs Hear Us" cartoon? "blah blah blah FREEDOM blah blah blah blah FREEDOM blah blah...."

Posted by: Jeff Fecke on January 31, 2006 at 9:24 PM | PERMALINK

There it was -- 9/11! Right out of the gate. Zimbabwe? Great job we've done with Mugabe, eh?

Posted by: kostya on January 31, 2006 at 9:25 PM | PERMALINK

Oh my goodness. I just heard Bush praising Mrs. Martin Luther King. But a few days ago I heard a bunch of his soul mates dissin the Kingster big time on his birthday.

Is this a liberal victory? The fact that these folks, and most especially their leader, would not dare dis Mr. King in public.

Posted by: little ole jim from red country on January 31, 2006 at 9:25 PM | PERMALINK

Used safe havens like Iraq to launch attacks against the US and the world? I think the chimp is chasing his tail again.

Posted by: Tuna on January 31, 2006 at 9:25 PM | PERMALINK

He didn't praise her so much as say he's glad that she's no longer on earth.

Posted by: B on January 31, 2006 at 9:26 PM | PERMALINK

...is the pro bowler's tour even on television any more?

Posted by: sluggo on January 31, 2006 at 9:27 PM | PERMALINK

Yeah, America will never surrender to Evil. Take that Democrats! Your platform of surrendering to Evil shall fail!

Posted by: Tuna on January 31, 2006 at 9:27 PM | PERMALINK

In the northwest there's a golf club infomercial on FSN.

Posted by: B on January 31, 2006 at 9:29 PM | PERMALINK

Was Alito standing and clapping? Aren't the members of the Supreme Court supposed to sit still and remain neutral during the SOTU?

Posted by: VaDem on January 31, 2006 at 9:29 PM | PERMALINK

I already live-blogged parts of it here. If the Dems stressed those parts they could use them to win elections.

Posted by: TLB on January 31, 2006 at 9:29 PM | PERMALINK

my bottle of wine is almost done! damnit. on to the jaegermeister

Posted by: Steve L on January 31, 2006 at 9:30 PM | PERMALINK

a golf club infomercial? i wish i lived in the northwest...

Posted by: sluggo on January 31, 2006 at 9:30 PM | PERMALINK

Worse president ever.

Nothing else to say.

Posted by: njc on January 31, 2006 at 9:31 PM | PERMALINK

weren't those three options?

Posted by: Steve L on January 31, 2006 at 9:32 PM | PERMALINK

He says something like 'Removing troops from Iraq is not a decision for politicians in Washington, but the military leaders'. So why hasn't he/Rumsfeld listened when commanders continue to tell them that they need more troops on the ground to be effective?

Posted by: Eric on January 31, 2006 at 9:33 PM | PERMALINK

i think it was the joint chiefs clapping. that is a definite no no.

Posted by: Steve L on January 31, 2006 at 9:33 PM | PERMALINK

Oh Christ, my 12 year old has to watch for her social studies class. Ok, that's it, too the garage I go, to my power tools and sports talk radio, me and the dog.

Posted by: The fake Fake Al on January 31, 2006 at 9:33 PM | PERMALINK

Which "failed nation" did the 9/11 terrorists come from? Are the Saudis aware of how W just dissed them?

Posted by: PCashwell on January 31, 2006 at 9:34 PM | PERMALINK

he's doing that chin thing again. and the triple eye blink...

Posted by: Steve L on January 31, 2006 at 9:35 PM | PERMALINK

So, is John Kerry just nodding off or is he live blogging this on his Blackberry?

And I have to give Bush some credit: He does a good job of giving empty rhetoric the appearance of legitimacy.

Ooooh, and a bonus letter from a dead soldier. Ooh, and his sister has tears. Did I accidently switch the channel to some Jingoist verion of Lifetime?

Posted by: Tuna on January 31, 2006 at 9:35 PM | PERMALINK

SOTU text from ThinkProgress.

Posted by: Apollo 13 on January 31, 2006 at 9:35 PM | PERMALINK

tell me what the fuck is up with the winky eyes, bush, mother of dead dude, bush again.

my kingdom for a prop

Posted by: nosdfsd on January 31, 2006 at 9:35 PM | PERMALINK

good hamas line.

Posted by: Steve L on January 31, 2006 at 9:36 PM | PERMALINK

sluggo: brilliant! just brilliant!

Posted by: howard on January 31, 2006 at 9:36 PM | PERMALINK

The number of freeper posts is about to exceed the number of dead soldiers in Iraq.

Dub is smokin'

That is going to be their undoing! I think we have seen the last of the Dimocrap party! They are imploding right in front of us!v

"W is Kicking Butt !"

Posted by: B on January 31, 2006 at 9:37 PM | PERMALINK

fire alarm in my building, no way am i leaving.

Posted by: Steve L on January 31, 2006 at 9:38 PM | PERMALINK

Snowman, this is the Bandit...there's a nuke com'n at cha good buddy!

Posted by: elmo on January 31, 2006 at 9:38 PM | PERMALINK

I'm tryin to figure out which font I have to use for a brief I'm writing, and I still feel like I'm better off than watching this $#!!.

Oh, btw, if he actually said:

"He says something like 'Removing troops from Iraq is not a decision for politicians in Washington, but the military leaders'. So why hasn't he/Rumsfeld listened when commanders continue to tell them that they need more troops on the ground to be effective?"

Someone needs to remind him that the commander-in-chief power means power over the armed forces, not just wire tapping American citizens in the United States.

Posted by: MDtoMN on January 31, 2006 at 9:39 PM | PERMALINK

little ole jim from red country,

Reminds me of a Molly Ivins column last week - Sort of the "sic-em" approach.

Caught "Oh Brother, Where Art Thou" last night. Can just see Charles Durning, who played the Guv, smiling at the crowd extolling the virtues of someone, then slyly turning to his thugs and saying "Sic'er, boys".

Love Durning - When he went off the ramp at Normandy, the GI ahead of him and the one behind were instantly killed. Tough ole character actor.

Posted by: thethirdPaul on January 31, 2006 at 9:39 PM | PERMALINK

Some Repub's stood up very slow on the patriot act intro...

Posted by: elmo on January 31, 2006 at 9:42 PM | PERMALINK

All I have to say is Exodus 20:16...

Posted by: gq on January 31, 2006 at 9:42 PM | PERMALINK

We did not know about their plans before it was too late...

Yeah, we only knew that they had previously targetted the WTC. We only knew that they discussed using planes as missiles. We only knew that one month before the attacks that Bush received a high level briefing that bin Laden was determined to attack us. I think Barney the Dog could've connected these dots.

Posted by: Tuna on January 31, 2006 at 9:43 PM | PERMALINK

Who was the speech writer -- Zell or Karl?

Posted by: B on January 31, 2006 at 9:43 PM | PERMALINK

Terrist sur-vay-lunce program. Oh Lordy, look at Alberto clap!

Posted by: kostya on January 31, 2006 at 9:43 PM | PERMALINK

It's times like these I hope there's a hell for liars.

Posted by: gq on January 31, 2006 at 9:45 PM | PERMALINK

Obviously the "isolationists" are the anti-corporate who want to stop our jobs from going to China and India and want to prevent corporations from hiring illegal immigrants....and "keeping our economy growing" only really applies to the economy of the top 2% of earners....

Posted by: Mic on January 31, 2006 at 9:46 PM | PERMALINK

I'm so glad I'm not watching this ...

Bob

Posted by: rmck1 on January 31, 2006 at 9:46 PM | PERMALINK

Ooh, let's get back to this NSA thing. Illegal wiretaps are the only way to catch terrorist plans? Ummm... It's not 2000 anymore, doofus. If US drug dealers know about using coded internet messages, disposable phones, and masked VOIP devices, I suspect that the terrorists know about them too.

(And why subject one of our good agents to tapping Christopher Hitchens' phone? Now that should be against the Geneva Convention.)

Posted by: Tuna on January 31, 2006 at 9:47 PM | PERMALINK

Taxes, terrorist and liberals...oh my!

Posted by: elmo on January 31, 2006 at 9:48 PM | PERMALINK

mccain lickin balls like always, what a fucking waste

Posted by: nosdfsd on January 31, 2006 at 9:48 PM | PERMALINK

Have they shot Cindy Sheehan yet??

Posted by: Greg on January 31, 2006 at 9:48 PM | PERMALINK

So much for being bipartisan. Looks like the '06 battle line is drawn. For some reason I have a feeling Bush won't be doing so hot in a few months.

Uh-oh. Line item veto makes its way back.

Posted by: gq on January 31, 2006 at 9:49 PM | PERMALINK

I detect the dissenters are not standing and clapping.

How rude and disrespectful.

They should at least stand and turn their backs to deceit.

Posted by: Sideline on January 31, 2006 at 9:49 PM | PERMALINK

Wasn't the line item veto ruled unconstitutional? Ohhhhh, silly me, there's a new court in town!

Posted by: elmo on January 31, 2006 at 9:50 PM | PERMALINK

The disingenuousness is even more stunning live, but it's time to turn off the TV. Much better to read the rest of the speech tomorrow.

Posted by: little ole jim from red country on January 31, 2006 at 9:50 PM | PERMALINK

so fuckin noble of him-put a commish together after 5 years of steppin on the throats of 50 percent of the US

Posted by: nosdfsd on January 31, 2006 at 9:52 PM | PERMALINK

I'm watching Sex and the City instead.

Posted by: Blech on January 31, 2006 at 9:52 PM | PERMALINK

Good for the Dems for applauding the failure of Social Security "reform." Eat it, Dubya.

Posted by: Jeff Fecke on January 31, 2006 at 9:53 PM | PERMALINK

Line item veto? Isn't that unconstitutional? WTF?

Posted by: Jeremy on January 31, 2006 at 9:53 PM | PERMALINK

Hooray. A new commission! surely it's not too late to fix the problme... Right?

Kevin, Hopefully he'll read a letter from the Gipper tonight.

Posted by: Tuna on January 31, 2006 at 9:54 PM | PERMALINK

What the hell was Yglesias thinking?

Line item veto? Bipartisan social security commission? No one can outcompete the American worker? Border control? Health care?

The crap is flying so fast I thought I was watching the original star trek intro.

Posted by: B on January 31, 2006 at 9:55 PM | PERMALINK

Has he talked about "alternative sources of energy" and nuke-u-lar power yet?

Bob

Posted by: rmck1 on January 31, 2006 at 9:55 PM | PERMALINK

Has Bush smirked this much in the past? He can't keep a straight face...

Posted by: gq on January 31, 2006 at 9:55 PM | PERMALINK

Is it more Churchillian than Lincolnesque, or vice versa?

I don't get MSNBC, so I dont know...

Posted by: Davis X. Machina on January 31, 2006 at 9:56 PM | PERMALINK

Sluggo is a great organic product used in the Northwest to eradicate slugs - Slugs are slimy creatures in the garden; they grow in size as they devour one's precious plants - sneaky types; they work in the quiet and secrecy of night - sort of like slimy Repugs growing ever fatter devouring our savings.
T'would be nice to have a national Sluggo.

Posted by: thethirdPaul on January 31, 2006 at 9:56 PM | PERMALINK

Fuck all you guys who don't understand the economy...oil is big business, and what the hell gives you the right to expect their money??? Go out and get a job in the oil business instead of spending my tax money in the form of your goddamn handouts!!

Posted by: Greg on January 31, 2006 at 9:57 PM | PERMALINK

And that would be the 5th SOTU where he's mentioned our dependency on foriegn oil. Except this time, he really means it. No, seriously. He's on the case this time. He stole Kerry's Iran Plan, and now he's plucking items directly from Gore's book. He really is a uniter!

Posted by: Tuna on January 31, 2006 at 9:57 PM | PERMALINK

"Switchgrass"

Sounds like someone's been reading Washington Monthly. :o)
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2004/0407.jaffe

Posted by: beowulf on January 31, 2006 at 9:57 PM | PERMALINK

Has Bush smirked this much in the past? He can't keep a straight face...

If you were president, and you watched that fiasco in the Senate yesterday, you'd smirk too.

He earned this one...

Posted by: Davis X. Machina on January 31, 2006 at 9:58 PM | PERMALINK

I put it on ... my back's to the screen so I can't see him fucking smork ... but I hear that voice.

Oh, nanotechnology education. Yeah, like the nanotechnology of his tiny skull ...

Bob

Posted by: rmck1 on January 31, 2006 at 9:59 PM | PERMALINK

There was a Palestine/Hamas line. They either cut it or he skipped it.

Posted by: Steve Brady on January 31, 2006 at 10:00 PM | PERMALINK

This is one of those rare times where I love reading The Corner at NRO. They were only mildly impressed by the "freedom" stuff, nonplussed about Iran, and depressed on the fiscal crap. O'Beirne managed to say that Republicans win because they talk about "victory" and Democrats talk about "exit strategy". Talk...

Posted by: Elrod on January 31, 2006 at 10:00 PM | PERMALINK

Bob,

zero emission coal, safe nukular technology, nanotechnology

we will succeed because we are smarter and more ingenious than feriners

Posted by: B on January 31, 2006 at 10:00 PM | PERMALINK

The increase in basic research funding sounds good. I wonder if it's for real?

Kevin, remember who's talking, and then you have the answer to your question. No, it's not real. But that's the Democrat Party's fault.

Posted by: Jeff Fecke on January 31, 2006 at 10:02 PM | PERMALINK

doubling NSF over 10 years doesn't amount to much. With inflation, it won't be very much. Good idea though. And about Five years too late.

Posted by: gq on January 31, 2006 at 10:02 PM | PERMALINK

"A revolution of conscience..."

Didn't they arrest Sheehan tonight? If we arrest our "conscience" what does that say about the revolution?

+++

Posted by: MJS on January 31, 2006 at 10:03 PM | PERMALINK

when he says "we will", you can accurately substitute "we still haven't"

Posted by: ziplock on January 31, 2006 at 10:04 PM | PERMALINK

The abortion tidbit is wrong. Just looked it up, via Google search.

Posted by: greg wirth on January 31, 2006 at 10:04 PM | PERMALINK

"servants of the law and not legislate from the bench ... Sandy's retirement applause line ... legislation to stop human cloning in all of its forms ! Ohh, the scourge of it all ... no human-headed chihuauas for this president!

Bob

Posted by: rmck1 on January 31, 2006 at 10:05 PM | PERMALINK

Holy crap! Human Animal hybrids? Is he talking about Santorum?

Posted by: Tuna on January 31, 2006 at 10:05 PM | PERMALINK

Not one word about Global Warming!

Posted by: bosco on January 31, 2006 at 10:05 PM | PERMALINK

Geez, Animal Planet is on every channel.

Posted by: thethirdPaul on January 31, 2006 at 10:06 PM | PERMALINK

Doomed to unravel...
Sandra Day O'Connor (blink, blink, blink)...
Cloning (chimeras, whoa!)
Looks like Laura's off the Gang Violence gig.

Posted by: kostya on January 31, 2006 at 10:06 PM | PERMALINK

Human-animal hybrids

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/01/0125_050125_chimeras.html

Posted by: Mark on January 31, 2006 at 10:06 PM | PERMALINK

I really just want to see the proposed budget. Modest NSF funding increases will probably come at the expense of government science (EPA, USGS, NOAA, DOI, NASA, etc.). They seem to be fond of earmarking funds too. Abstinence research?

Posted by: B on January 31, 2006 at 10:08 PM | PERMALINK

boy am i drunk.

Posted by: Steve L on January 31, 2006 at 10:10 PM | PERMALINK

Don't hybrids get a tax credit?

Posted by: Will on January 31, 2006 at 10:11 PM | PERMALINK

Uh-oh, here comes Iraq ... "we will finish well ... we will lead freedom's advance ... there it is, the big jizzwad all over our faces.

Tim Russert ... what a nimrod, listen to that patronizing tone ... the Democrats didn't even stand up, oh my.

Bob

Posted by: rmck1 on January 31, 2006 at 10:11 PM | PERMALINK

I think the Wikipedia disagrees with Bush's abortion quote. The numbers have been on the decline for a while, but nowhere near the low mark set in the 70's.

Posted by: Tuna on January 31, 2006 at 10:11 PM | PERMALINK

Human-animal hybrids? Huh?

I'm sure that was thrown in to throw a bone to bipartisan legislation.

I should have stayed in lab rather than watching this tripe.

Posted by: gq on January 31, 2006 at 10:11 PM | PERMALINK

I can't stand to listen to moron but it's an interesting experience to watch him with the mute button on. He looks even more moronish.

Posted by: ubu on January 31, 2006 at 10:12 PM | PERMALINK

"Bush really doesn't do 'stirring' all that well"

Not true. He stirs my stomach into nausea with the utmost in precision and efficiency.

Posted by: Gary on January 31, 2006 at 10:12 PM | PERMALINK

My God, I made it through the whole thing. The tax cut permanent thing stuck in my craw the hardest. And alternative energy? Ha. I think he means switching from oil to coal.

Posted by: Tripp on January 31, 2006 at 10:13 PM | PERMALINK

What's wrong with mules?

Posted by: B on January 31, 2006 at 10:13 PM | PERMALINK

Abstinence research?

Very little has been done applying modern materials science -- carbon fibre composites, e.g. -- to chastity belts.

Posted by: Davis X. Machina on January 31, 2006 at 10:14 PM | PERMALINK

Dude, New Orleans got dissed! They came in at minute, what, 50? Rebuilding New Orleans got put into the "hopeful" category, and it got lower billing than Laura Bush's mentoring program!

Seriously, George Bush is are talking about rebuilding a major American city, rebuilding the nation's largest port city, and it came in under "helping black people," and it came in behind, "getting kids positive role models."

Way to set priorities, dude. Worst President Ever.

Posted by: theorajones on January 31, 2006 at 10:14 PM | PERMALINK

Human-animal hybrids? Huh?

I'm sure that was thrown in to throw a bone to bipartisan legislation.

I should have stayed in lab rather than watching this tripe.

Posted by: gq on January 31, 2006 at 10:14 PM | PERMALINK

I'm still wondering how we get zero-emission cycles using coal. The last time I looked, burning coal to release heat to produce steam for the turbines generated quite a bit of CO2 and H2O, even if the effluent stream is scrubbed for nasty stuff like mercury. Does Dubya even know that you can't make coal-fired plants which don't have emissions, particularly emissions which affect atmospheric warming? This baked Alaska of a SOTU needs to be put back into the oven.

Posted by: PrahaPartizan on January 31, 2006 at 10:14 PM | PERMALINK

And yet another SOTU without a mention of his Moon/Mars "vision". That's a big "Screw You" to DeLay's district (which now contains the Johnson Space Center).

Posted by: Tuna on January 31, 2006 at 10:14 PM | PERMALINK

When does the Dem response come on?

Bob

Posted by: rmck1 on January 31, 2006 at 10:16 PM | PERMALINK

The Federal government spent roughly $85 million on solar-related research...the overwhelming majority of which went to the Nat'l renewable energy lab (NREL) in Colorado, and most of the rest went to Sandia Nat'l labs in NM. To put that into perspective, that is less than 40% of A-Rod's contract...

Posted by: jk on January 31, 2006 at 10:17 PM | PERMALINK

Virginia Governor Tim Kaine's Response

Posted by: Apollo 13 on January 31, 2006 at 10:19 PM | PERMALINK

Just finished watching 'Supernatural'...I heard there was some speech on or somethin?

Posted by: cq on January 31, 2006 at 10:19 PM | PERMALINK

Crap, I hope Kaine doesn't push his plan to close all US embassies, bring all our military back to domestic bases, and cut off all foreign trade. W kinda called him on it.

Posted by: B on January 31, 2006 at 10:20 PM | PERMALINK

I had to change a shitty diaper...what happened why is it over?

Posted by: elmo on January 31, 2006 at 10:20 PM | PERMALINK

When/where is Kaine going to be on to deliver it?

Bob

Posted by: rmck1 on January 31, 2006 at 10:21 PM | PERMALINK

Its over.

The Bad Breath rests its case.

Posted by: Sideline on January 31, 2006 at 10:21 PM | PERMALINK

Little disappointed that he did not quote his favorite educational guru, Emil Faber, who once said, "Knowledge is Good".

Posted by: thethirdPaul on January 31, 2006 at 10:22 PM | PERMALINK

9:54 Fewer abortions than anytime in the past three decades? Is that true?


Technically it is probably true. And Bush could have said the same thing last year and it would have been true, and the year before that and the year before that, etc. etc. And Clinton could have made a similar claim in each of his State of Union Addresses. Abortions have been declining just about every year for the past twenty years or so according to the Guttmacher Institute. It is hard to tell how much because there is no central authority responsible gathering these statistics. Guttmacher cobbles together their reporting based on individual states reporting, but not all states keep track of the same things in the same way. Best evidence though is that the rate of decline each year was steeper under Clinton than it has been under Bush.

Posted by: Majun on January 31, 2006 at 10:23 PM | PERMALINK

The abortion tidbit is wrong. Just looked it up, via Google search.

I think the Wikipedia disagrees with Bush's abortion quote.

Yeah, guys. The internet and/or Wikipedia are never wrong. Not on the hottest of hot-button political issues. Never.

Posted by: The Marketeer on January 31, 2006 at 10:23 PM | PERMALINK

Bob,
Kaine is on CNN.

Posted by: Apollo 13 on January 31, 2006 at 10:23 PM | PERMALINK

How many minutes will Kaine get before CNN cuts him off?

Posted by: B on January 31, 2006 at 10:23 PM | PERMALINK

Here it is on C-SPAN ... never seen this guy before. Ugghh ... how smarmy ... "I'm gonna offer some good news tonight" ... competence over ideology.

I don't like his smile or his eyebrows ... or the way he earnestly wags his head to suck approval ... damn but he sounds stilted. Budget budget budget ... all about Virginia. Debt debt debt ... NCLB.

C'mon man, rip Chimpy a new one already ...

This guy's delivery is like Howard Dean Lite ...

Bob

Posted by: rmck1 on January 31, 2006 at 10:27 PM | PERMALINK

For some reason out of the blue, I played Party Poker tonite for the first time in months.

Did I miss anything?

Posted by: Chris on January 31, 2006 at 10:27 PM | PERMALINK

"Yeah, guys. The internet and/or Wikipedia are never wrong. Not on the hottest of hot-button political issues. Never."

Got facts, Marketeer? I'll bet on them over you any day.

Posted by: Joel on January 31, 2006 at 10:28 PM | PERMALINK

Oh my God the Democratic rebuttal is so lame. A manager blandly talking about managing the manageable management problem.

Jesus Christ help us.

I'm sorry but has no one else any TV experience? That left eyebrow says "amusement" and the asymetry says untrustworthy!

Posted by: Tripp on January 31, 2006 at 10:28 PM | PERMALINK

Um, but technically the number of abortions is not lower than ever. Guttmacher estimates less than one million in 1973 and 1974. In 1977 it crossed the 1.3 million mark. After 2000, it was reported as slightly less than 1.3 million. These are the common numbers available for us at this point. Bush could actually be right on this one, but I really couldn't care less. I'm a guy. I can abort any time I'm ready.

Posted by: Tuna on January 31, 2006 at 10:31 PM | PERMALINK

Yes, there may be FEWER abortions now than in previous years, but that is because there are more people now than in previous years. The RATE of abortions has increased since the Clinton years.

It's not technically a lie, I suppose, but one of those "mistruths."

Posted by: LAS on January 31, 2006 at 10:31 PM | PERMALINK

He's constantly *smiling* as he's delivering the bad news ... like a teacher addressing the slow students ... OMFG is this guy completely stilted ... and yeah, The Eyebrow virtually *screams* "used car salesman" ...

Oh man ... what's wrong with our fucking Party ?

Bob

Posted by: rmck1 on January 31, 2006 at 10:31 PM | PERMALINK

Human-animal hybrids refers to the conservative specter of "chimeras," a scientific term for cross-species critters--no stem-cell Golems for this administration, eh?

Posted by: Truth & Taboo on January 31, 2006 at 10:32 PM | PERMALINK

What's up with Kaine's eyebrow? Is he an alien?

Posted by: Quaoar on January 31, 2006 at 10:32 PM | PERMALINK

Maybe they got an agreement this year on not getting cut off. Last year I had to switch to cspan to see the end.

It'll give Blitzer some time to polish his rebuttal of the Democratic speech.

Posted by: B on January 31, 2006 at 10:33 PM | PERMALINK

The word "hopeful" is in the SOTU ten times. Apparently that's the agenda for 2006: to make us a Hopeful Society. Well ... I STILL BELIEVE IN A PLACE CALLED "HOPE."

Now he's a liar AND a plagiarist.

Posted by: ManOutOfTime on January 31, 2006 at 10:33 PM | PERMALINK

The international part of the speech was mushier, more platitudinous than usual. In fact, what's interesting is that I think that entire section of the address could have been given by a President Kerry with no more than a few sentences changed.

Did you hear Kerry shot himself in the ass on purpose? That he didn't even bleed, but got a Purple Heart anyway?

Posted by: Boronx on January 31, 2006 at 10:34 PM | PERMALINK

Crap! Seriously, I've seen better speeches at the High school level. He looks like he needs a shave and the delivery has fallen into a boring pattern. Where the hell is Hollywood? Where the hell are the TV directors? This is middle-school amateur hour and it sucks!

In this day and age there is absolutely no excuse for such a poor TV performance.

Posted by: Tripp on January 31, 2006 at 10:35 PM | PERMALINK

OMFG his religious rhetoric was so fucking *lame* ... "the key is service" ... like the government was Wendy's or something.

How fucking stupid are these Buttfuckistanis to be taken in by the smarm ....

Bob

Posted by: rmck1 on January 31, 2006 at 10:35 PM | PERMALINK

Arrianna said it first, that Kaine would bomb.

Posted by: thethirdPaul on January 31, 2006 at 10:36 PM | PERMALINK

Tonight, before Bush's SOTU speech, I vowed to tried to remain as non-judgmental as I could be. However, even employing my best impartial frame of mind, the opening of tonight's ceremony reminded me distinctly of a scene from the Coloseum in Imperial Rome - the smug "emperor", his shorn and tightly disciplined troops standing and fawning in fealty to their brave and conquering leader. The stern, black-robed judges in attendance. It was eerily familiar to a scene from Spartacus.

The speech was no surprise of course, the usual mix of references to this nebulous "enemy" (19 men in hijacked planes???) and tying that to some mythical march to freedom. The connection was never made. What struck me as bold was the "in your face" framing of Islam as a religion of violence that needed to be conquered. He minced no words in that regard. Iran was clearly in Bush's cross-hairs and I fully expect the next SOTU will involve Bush recapping all of his moral reasons for the strafing of Teheran.

2,000 years of human civilization has not brought us one iota further than this?

Posted by: Stephen Kriz on January 31, 2006 at 10:37 PM | PERMALINK

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Posted by: American People on January 31, 2006 at 10:37 PM | PERMALINK

Kaine is the BEST they could do?

He spoke like a wind up doll.... measured, jovial, blah blah blah... gruel...

Why not let Cynthia McKinney get up there and whup some ass?

I want hell fire and brim stone... I want someboyd to call Bush what he is ... a bully, and a terrorist.. he's no conservative. He is the opportunist son of a former president - obsessed with power, and surrounded with courtiers who manipulate his obvious napoleonic delusions of grandeur.

I bet Bush has a teeny weenie. He acts like a man with severe sexual problems.

Posted by: Ashley on January 31, 2006 at 10:38 PM | PERMALINK

Kaine could have done a good bit on last years Mars plan. Right out of Men in Black.

Posted by: B on January 31, 2006 at 10:38 PM | PERMALINK

I thought it was an excellent speech...am I view myself as a Democrat! Obviously, in order to come to this conclusion I've had to disconnect myself from reality. Is Bush of this planet? I'd love to see a point by point dissection of this speech along the line of "Bush said...", "Reality of the situation that makes a mockery of what Bush just said...".

Posted by: garyk on January 31, 2006 at 10:40 PM | PERMALINK

rmck1,

No shit! And I'm not one to lightly use profanity. What the fuck was my money used for? I'm a goddamm computer programmer and a goddamn amateur actor for Christ's sake and even
I can spot the problem with that delivery.

That so sucked!

Posted by: Tripp on January 31, 2006 at 10:41 PM | PERMALINK

Aim low is America's new motto.

Posted by: William Jensen on January 31, 2006 at 10:41 PM | PERMALINK

Um, but technically the number of abortions is not lower than ever. Guttmacher estimates less than one million in 1973 and 1974. In 1977 it crossed the 1.3 million mark. After 2000, it was reported as slightly less than 1.3 million. These are the common numbers available for us at this point. Bush could actually be right on this one, but I really couldn't care less. I'm a guy. I can abort any time I'm ready.


The quote was lower than anytime in the past three decades, so the numbers for 1973 and 1974 wouldn't be part of that calculation...at least not the way I do math. According to Guttmacher the rate of abortion is declining, and has been since the late 1970s. But, there is no accepted source for this information, so it will be hotly debated for months to come. Somebody might suggest that the Republican Congress pony up the money to have the NIH start tracking this and keeping accurate stats on this issue. If there are any out there who have voted Republican in the past three Congressional elections, please hold your breath while we wait for your congress to do this.

Posted by: Majun on January 31, 2006 at 10:42 PM | PERMALINK

Re Kaine:

Oh come now, yes he seemed to be a bit off with the teleprompter, but I thought he was loads better than the last few rebuttals I've seen from Pelosi.

Not great, but really I've seen worse . . .

Posted by: tiki bird on January 31, 2006 at 10:46 PM | PERMALINK

'Did you hear Kerry shot himself in the ass on purpose? That he didn't even bleed, but got a Purple Heart anyway?'
--Boronx

Did you hear George W. Bush impregnated a 15 yr. old girl when he was 22 (known as statutory rape in some parts), paid for an abortion for her, and that he was also an alcoholic and cocaine addict for over 20 years?

Posted by: The Conservative Deflator on January 31, 2006 at 10:46 PM | PERMALINK

When did the State of the Union become 'our president blathers aimlessly for an hour' anyhow?

None of what he said in his speach will have anything to do with what he'll do in the next year, and the only references to things that have happened in the past are lies or are pointless 'shout outs' to like the Justice confirmations.

He doesn't /say/ anything about them, so what's the point?

Posted by: Crissa on January 31, 2006 at 10:47 PM | PERMALINK

I was wrong about one thing. Tim Kaine gave a very good Democratic response. If Mark Warner is as good as that, then you guys need to run him.

Posted by: contentious on January 31, 2006 at 10:47 PM | PERMALINK

Tripp:

Well, what bugged me most went beyond the delivery (which completely blew and swallowed titanic throat-closing loads), it was the whole new Democratic idea that Kaine supposedly represents.

1) We're just as religious as Republicans. We can quote the Bible just as much, and boy we're just not shy about rubbing this in anybody's face like those other secular Democrats.

2) See, it's not about ideology. It's like our wise elder Mike Dukakis said it was so many years ago -- it's about competence. Wonder what happened to ol' Mike. Oh right ... Anway ... government is a, well, it's a sacred trust, a contract. Like a .... covenant, that's it, yep. And what we've learned here in Virginia is to honor our committment to serve the fine citizens of the state. Service -- with a smile -- is our motto.

Jesus fucking Christ ... *sssiiiiggghhhhhh*

Bob

Posted by: rmck1 on January 31, 2006 at 10:50 PM | PERMALINK

Kaine made Bush look good, and I really dislike Bush.

I simply can not understand how the party of actors and writers and the performing arts could put on such a lame spot.

Seriously. Is it a lack of funds? Is it pride? It looked like a commercial for a business where the owner insists on doing the spot himself to save some money.

It was the daily hell of middle management droning away about monthly quotas.

Posted by: Tripp on January 31, 2006 at 10:56 PM | PERMALINK

Oh, one more item I love about this speech. The US produced more jobs than Japan and Europe COMBINED! That should get your attention you lazy Democratic slugs! Take that! Oh, the reality is Japan has been in an extended recession since the very early 1990's and the Europeans aren't exactly the model of dynamic growth. Who pays attention to the facts when you have such great oratory!

Posted by: garyk on January 31, 2006 at 10:57 PM | PERMALINK

As for Kaine, just think we could have just had Stephen Root reprise his Milton Waddams role from "Office Space" and done better.

Posted by: thethirdPaul on January 31, 2006 at 10:57 PM | PERMALINK

I knew it! The human animal hybrid is a Santorum. However, it appears to be his daughter (she has his eyes and nose).

Posted by: Tuna on January 31, 2006 at 10:58 PM | PERMALINK

Is a human cabbage hybrid ok? I mean we do share 60% of our genome with a cabbage, so it should be ok.

Posted by: cq on January 31, 2006 at 11:01 PM | PERMALINK

completely blew and swallowed titanic throat-closing loads

rmck1,

Now that was seriously funny! I'm gonna steal it!

People used to tease me about having Jesse Ventura as a Govenor but I'll tell you he knew how to play to the camera. He also knew how to surround himself with smart people and he steered a middle course.

I hope to Hell there is a new Daily Show tonight because I sure do need something to cheer me up.

Posted by: Tripp on January 31, 2006 at 11:04 PM | PERMALINK

"We must never give in to the belief that America is on the decline."

So quintessential Bush:

acknowledging reality = failure.

Also, Bush's prescription ensures that you will never notice whether or not the US is on the decline, so that you will never do anything to reverse that decline - you see, because it doesn't really exist.

Nothing that you don't want to exist exists, you see.

Jesus.

Posted by: chuck on January 31, 2006 at 11:06 PM | PERMALINK

3rd Paul:

"And the Democrats said I could give this rebuttal at a reasonable volume, and the Swingline stapler is more efficient than the Boston, and you lost my paycheck and Mr. Lunberg said I was to see Human Resources about it and I was here last week you didn't have it then either, and ... "

Bob

Posted by: rmck1 on January 31, 2006 at 11:07 PM | PERMALINK

Who are these "isolationists" Bush keeps talking about?

C'mon - stop playing dumb, Kevin.

The isolationists are the non-invasionists, of course!

Posted by: chuck on January 31, 2006 at 11:09 PM | PERMALINK

"doubling NSF over 10 years doesn't amount to much. With inflation, it won't be very much. Good idea though. And about Five years too late."

Funny how thier actual budgets keep cutting that sort of thing though...

Posted by: jefff on January 31, 2006 at 11:14 PM | PERMALINK

Garyk, what a silly comparison, to compare job growth between Europe and Japan against us. Their populations are growing more slowly than ours and job growth isn't as relevant to them as it is to us given the slow population growth. It's simply a stupid comparison. A better comparison would be to look at Clinton's figures and and then Bush's. Obviously, there is no comparison. If I recall, he needs to average 150,000 a month in new jobs to keep up with the population growth. I think he is somewhere less than 20,000. So, what can we draw from this? As the Bush Administartion goes "forward" our country employment figures go backward.

Posted by: William Jensen on January 31, 2006 at 11:16 PM | PERMALINK

Bob,

Great pickup.

Posted by: thethirdPaul on January 31, 2006 at 11:17 PM | PERMALINK

Remember "clean energy" means subsidies for his friends in the nuke-u-lar industry. (Kind of like "clear skies" initiative meant that the coal industry could pollute more.

Posted by: Rich on January 31, 2006 at 11:21 PM | PERMALINK

The "speech" will be rightly forgotten. Trumped by 2245; how many more?
I can't believe the depths to which this country has fallen. No free speech in the capitol. Wow.
Bush provides platitudes but no paliatives. He is a disaster, but we most take responsibility for him. He is our train wreck. We have the worst leaders ever in both parties--money trumps ideology. Every time.

Posted by: Sparko on January 31, 2006 at 11:25 PM | PERMALINK

From Peoria: it doesn't play!

Posted by: Varvara on January 31, 2006 at 11:28 PM | PERMALINK

The President implored Congress to pass grant him line-item veto authority. Two significant problems:

1. The Supreme Court has held, 6-3, that the line item veto is unconstitutional in Clinton v. City of New York, 524 U.S. 417 (1997).
2. The real kicker is that the line-item veto, despite its unenforceability under Clinton v. City of New York, is and remains part of the U.S. Code in 2 USC 691.

Summary: The President, in the most important speech of the year, asked Congress to pass a law that is (1) unconstitutional and (2) is already a law.

Seriously? Seriously? No . . . seriously?

Posted by: Anonymous on January 31, 2006 at 11:29 PM | PERMALINK

Watched the speech on PBS and the post-game wrap-up on CNN. Bush wasn't awful, but had little to say that hasn't been said before. For the most part, the follow-up commentary was rather damaging to Bush, despite the edge in Repubs doing the talking. Consensus is that it all comes down to Iraq and that's a disaster. Nothing new coming down the pike. We're stuck with a president who's not going to do anything and we're just waiting till he's gone. Wouldn't be so bad except he's got 1,000+ days left in office.

Posted by: JJF on January 31, 2006 at 11:29 PM | PERMALINK

3rd Paul:

That was an extremely funny movie (despite the fact that the character development was completely throwaway), worth a couple watchings.

One of the funniest scenes is still the opening, when the three office coworkers illustrate their characters by the way they react to sitting in traffic. Samir's frustrated foreigner cramming cursewords together arbitrarily "mother! ... ass! ... fuck! ... " at the very end of that scene ends with something that I *swear* sounds like "Jew!" which would be over-the-top funny in the mouth of an otherwise good-guy Saudi computer programmer. Michael Bolton's scenes with the copier are uniformly hysterical, none so much as the last, when the paper pulls away from his hands ...

And then there's Milton's rant on the beach during the credits, when they brought him the wrong drink: "I'll take my business to a competing luxury resort ... I'll put strychnine in the guacamole."

Bob

Posted by: rmck1 on January 31, 2006 at 11:33 PM | PERMALINK

I was watcjing re-runs of Everybody Loves Raymond which is on every half hour all night long if you get enough satellite channels. Was there something else on TV tonight? What did I miss?

Posted by: murmeister on January 31, 2006 at 11:37 PM | PERMALINK

Summary: The President, in the most important speech of the year, asked Congress to pass a law that is (1) unconstitutional and (2) is already a law.

That's the kind of bold proposal that we've come to expect from him.

You're just jealous because you're not as bold as he is.

Posted by: Ringo on January 31, 2006 at 11:37 PM | PERMALINK

"he's got a thousand days + left"

Well, in some circles "Anne of the Thousand Days" ended well.

Bob,

Just saw "Oh Brother, Where Art Thou" again last night - Stephen Root played the owner of the radio station - great character actor.

Posted by: thethirdPaul on January 31, 2006 at 11:39 PM | PERMALINK

It struck me this afternoon that the Enron debacle was more prophetic than any single event of the 21st Century. We have witnessed it again writ large. Bush, when speaking someone else's words, always reminds me of the AMWAY huckster who doesn't really have to believe in the product any more. There was NOTHING in this speech today. NOTHING. I did learn the total number of dead in the Iraq adventure was "unpatriotic." Unbelievable. Spam the MSM with deserved criticim and scathing phone messages. Sycophants!

Posted by: Sparko on January 31, 2006 at 11:43 PM | PERMALINK

3rd Paul:

He's blind, right ... I've only seen that film once -- and I've seen most of the Coen Bros movies multiple times, save for Intolerable Cruelty which my friends dissed but which I'm thinking is probably better than the first round of word of mouth ... I loved the black and white one with Billy Bob Thornton as the barber ... great evocation of that era ...

The radio station guy was blind, right? I'm thinking that John Goodman's character should've been blind, because he was clearly the Cyclops in the allegory ...

Bob

Posted by: rmck1 on January 31, 2006 at 11:48 PM | PERMALINK

Nice rebuttal to Bush's vow to reduce ME oil imports by 75% by 2025 here:

Mercury News

Posted by: nepeta on January 31, 2006 at 11:49 PM | PERMALINK

Kevin,
How about a correction on the reason for Cindy Sheehan's arrest? AP says it was for "Wearing a t-shirt", not "trying to unfurl a banner."

Posted by: sidewinder on February 1, 2006 at 12:02 AM | PERMALINK

Bob,

Correct. The station owner was blind, but they did have Goodman wear an eye patch.

Another fine character actor in the film was Charles Durning, who played the Guv. Mentioned him up thread. Saw Durning in "On Golden Pond" many years ago at the Mark Taper, I believe, in LA.

Posted by: thethirdPaul on February 1, 2006 at 12:02 AM | PERMALINK

You don't even need to compare Bush's job growth figures to Clinton to make them look pathetic. Try comparing them to ANY 5 year period since World War II adjusted for the total size of the workforce.

I couldn't find those figures, but did find the widely quoted studied by the Economic Policy Institure at http://www.jobwatch.org/ that says that the rate of job growth since March 2003 is lower than for any comparable period of econononic recovery in over 50 years.

Considering that Bush promised his tax cuts would add 5.5 million jobs, the fact that the number of jobs in the country continued to decline for almost a year after they went into effect and then added only 4.4 million jobs from that low point is less than impressive.

Posted by: tanj on February 1, 2006 at 12:06 AM | PERMALINK

Can we call it his "malaise speech"?

Posted by: Mr Zero on February 1, 2006 at 12:08 AM | PERMALINK

At the Washington Post.com, Eugene Robinson suggests what might happen to Georgie Porgie Bush if he had to sit down and face the vengeful, wrathful, "Old Testament" Oprah and deliver his State of the Union Address, like James Frey had to face her when he had to confess all of his lies.

Oprah might tell the president that the nation's highest elected official, even in wartime, has the duty to tell the American people the truth and obey the law. And if he said no he didn't, she could respond with the same words she used to Frey's chagrined publisher:

"Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, you do. Yes."

As Arte Johnson said: Interesting....Verrry Interesting

Posted by: murmeister on February 1, 2006 at 12:10 AM | PERMALINK

I was hoping Bush would say something about the Bermuda Triangle and how it's gradually spreading into my south Florida neighborhood.

Posted by: Florida Repub on February 1, 2006 at 12:16 AM | PERMALINK

I've been over at Huff Post reading Arianna's excellent SOTU commentary. And then I ran across this on the Huff home page from legendary First Amendment attorney Martin Garbus: Proof That Bush's Removal of the Abramoff Prosecutor was a Political Deal to Scuttle the Investigation. WTF?

Posted by: Apollo 13 on February 1, 2006 at 12:19 AM | PERMALINK

a minor correction to a comment above.

The population of Japan actually fell by a few tens of thousands last year which is projected to continue throughout the century. The number of children born each year has fallen every year since about 1980. I work in a juniior college here and recruitment has been a nightmare since '98 --outplacement is improving though...

Posted by: joe on February 1, 2006 at 12:22 AM | PERMALINK

Worst President ever.

Posted by: lib on February 1, 2006 at 12:23 AM | PERMALINK

AmericaBlog has more on Sheehan's arrest. Her T-shirt said, "2,245 Dead How Many More??"

Posted by: Apollo 13 on February 1, 2006 at 12:28 AM | PERMALINK
AP: Cindy Sheehan, the mother of a fallen soldier in Iraq who reinvigorated the anti-war movement, was arrested and removed from the House gallery Tuesday night just before President Bush's State of the Union address, a police spokeswoman said.

Sheehan had worn a T-shirt with an anti-war slogan to the speech and covered it up until she took her seat. Police warned her that such displays were not allowed, but she did not respond, the spokeswoman said.

Police handcuffed Sheehan and removed her from the gallery before Bush arrived. Sheehan was to be released on her own recognizance, Schneider said.

In other news, Old Testament Patriarch Moses was also arrested by police on the steps of the Capitol, apparently for carrying stone tablets etched with slogans that called into question the president's agenda.

Here on an expired visa, Moses will be detained without access to counsel until his appearance before an Immigration Court, at which time he is expected to be deported.


Posted by: Windhorse on February 1, 2006 at 12:34 AM | PERMALINK

Sweet Land of Liberty
Freedom of Speech
Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition
Remember the Maine

Am I forgetting any other arrestable words?

Posted by: murmeister on February 1, 2006 at 12:39 AM | PERMALINK

Big issues, big failures.
No big discussion on New Orleans. No discussion on prescription drug plan failures. No exit strategy on Iraq, no plan to win. No plan on oil use reduction. No plan on reducing the deficit and reining in spending, earmarks, or reforming a corrupt system. No plan to capture or counter al Qa'ida. No plan to reduce terrorism. No plan to institute 9-11 commission recommendations. No plan on North Korea, Iran, Egypt, Saudi Arabia. No plan to promote American interests in South America, Asia, Europe, Africa, Middle East.
No plan on the American economy, no plan on jobs, no plan on health care, no plan on Social Security, no plan on voting reform, no plan on immigration.
Big talk on promoting democracy, but overthrew democracy in Haiti, tried to overthrow government in Venezuela, deals with tyrannies in Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Egypt, Uzbekistan, China, Zaire, Zimbabwe, except North Korea. Facilitated election victories of anti-American governments in Iraq, Palestine, Iran, Says he wants to win the "war of ideas," with radical Islam, yet his attack on Iraq costing tens of thousands Iraqi lives and our unlimited support for Israel what has killed thousands of Palestinians, only serves to radicalize Moslems.
Big issues, big failures.

Posted by: Mike on February 1, 2006 at 12:52 AM | PERMALINK

Well, at least there were no gaffes - with his dyslexia, I thought he might have mentioned that this is The Year of the God.

Now, if they could sign James Frey to write his memoirs - two addict liars working together.

Posted by: thethirdPaul on February 1, 2006 at 12:59 AM | PERMALINK

This speech sounded like every Bush SOTU of the last five years. He spent most of it wrapping himself in the flag and identifying his cause with that of the troops. He framed the war in Iraq as the "War against Terror" so as to paint the opponents of the Iraq War as soft on terrorism. Other than that it was more of the same fraudulent claims: Bush is a pioneer in developing alternate energy sources and is concerned about America's addiction to petroleum; Bush fights for healthcare for every American; Bush cares deeply about improving public education;Bush wants to improve the "tone" in Washington; and perhaps most laughable, Bush is concerned about corruption in our political system. For all the parsing of his speech by the Chris Matthews of the world, this is a repeat of what we've heard every year since 2002.

Posted by: John Bentley on February 1, 2006 at 1:04 AM | PERMALINK

"Bush is concerned about the corruption in our political system"

Aung San Suu Kyi of Myanmar, who is imprisoned by her corrupt government, has said of corruption:

"It is not power that corrupts, but fear of losing power corrupts those who wield it and fear of the scourge of power corrupts those who are subject to it."

Posted by: thethirdPaul on February 1, 2006 at 1:12 AM | PERMALINK

I hate Bush and love the First Amendment more than most, but need to point out...

The visitors galleries in the US Capitol have restrictive rules on the conduct of visitors. As a high school student in the 70s and tried to take a picture form the gallery and was confronted by security.

Common guys, Sheehan knew she would be arrested if she did things just right. If she hadn't been, no one would know that she was there or what her shirt said.

Some of you need to stop being such liberal weenies.

Posted by: Keith G on February 1, 2006 at 1:22 AM | PERMALINK

I forgot to mention one of Bush's most ludicrous claims - that he wants science to be featured more prominently in American education. This claim comes from the same president whose administration routinely silences expert government scientists whose findings might contradict his administration's (and his party's)political ideology, and the leader of a party and a movement that persistently tries to promote bogus and decidedly unscientific theories like Intelligent Design that correspond to the religious agenda of his core political base.

Posted by: John Bentley on February 1, 2006 at 1:27 AM | PERMALINK

The Top 10 State of the Union highlights:

1. Demonize the Democrats
2. Bait the Base
3. Cognitive Dissonance and the Bush Doctrine
4. Delicious Irony, Tehran Edition
5. Bitch Slapped on Social Security
6. What Health Care Plan?
7. Energy Crisis?
8. Pandering to African-Americans
9. Gang Banger Laura Bush?
10. Katrina and the Waves

Posted by: AvengingAngel on February 1, 2006 at 1:34 AM | PERMALINK

The visitors galleries in the US Capitol have restrictive rules.

Do they have a rule against slogans of t-shirts? Are they going to claim that her t-shirt was disruptive of the proceedings.

Common guys, Sheehan knew she would be arrested if she did things just right. If she hadn't been, no one would know that she was there or what her shirt said.

Really? And the first newscaster to discover her wouldn't have had a field day with the only surprising devolopment of the night? Do you think the people who ordered the arrest do not count on 60% of Americans to see the arrest as proof of her wrongdoing?

Posted by: Boronx on February 1, 2006 at 1:43 AM | PERMALINK

You guys who actually watched the fucking idiot have stronger stomachs than me. Instead, I'll toss out this question: How many days (hours?) until everything the fraternity boy said is completely forgotten? The idiot's used the Big Lie so much that his bullshit just doesn't have the staying power it once did.....

Posted by: sglover on February 1, 2006 at 1:50 AM | PERMALINK

John Bentley: I'm wondering who you are calling "Common guys"

Posted by: murmeister on February 1, 2006 at 1:57 AM | PERMALINK

Murmeister, assuming you're not just making a joke, it was Keith G., not John Bentley, who said "Common guys" meaning "Come on, guys."

Posted by: bad Jim on February 1, 2006 at 2:03 AM | PERMALINK

It was a "come on" mistake, sorry.

Posted by: Keith G on February 1, 2006 at 2:24 AM | PERMALINK

Re: NSA
Why do you media types give points for lying and call it chutzpah????????????????????? Geez Louise.

Posted by: TuiMel on February 1, 2006 at 2:54 AM | PERMALINK

Re: Immigration

The Prez says, "Bring 'em on!"

American businesses can't function without slave labor. What could they do if they had to pay minimum wages and benefits, much less union scale? Horrors!

Posted by: DevilDog on February 1, 2006 at 4:30 AM | PERMALINK

Who are these "isolationists" Bush keeps talking about?

Off world planetary neo-cons - invaded with a faser in each hand. Made claims that Mideasterners would throw flowers once Bush kill enough of them.

It's Bush himself. Doesn't Bush act like a alian to you?

What other isolationist do you know, I mean other then those in the Whitehouse? Bush told the UN to go to hell - now the UN doesn't work with Bush anymore and Bush doesn't work with them either, never been a team player - ney, Bush is the "isolationists".

NOW Bushie wants to "pretend" that he not an "isolationists", something he does all the time. Bushie just wants to get along with everyone. Bush ask, "Why don't you love me for the worthless piece of Sh*t I am"? Then he smirks if you don't approve of all his BS.

You just do what Bush says or else it's "isolationists" time again, that or name calling time.

OR look in dictionary, next to the work "isolationists" there is a picture of Bush.

Posted by: Cheryl on February 1, 2006 at 6:04 AM | PERMALINK

Who are these "isolationists" Bush keeps talking about?

Cheryl, I think the problem is your figuring where the center is. Think you got it backwards. Think to lick this one you just gotta realize that, see, things revolve round Sir Prance-a-lot --a lot anyway. So, ipso facto, if you're not in with him, you're one isolationist.

Me I'm out beyond Pluto somewhere.

Posted by: snicker-snack on February 1, 2006 at 6:19 AM | PERMALINK

The human-animal hybrid thing is either: a typical Republican misdirection of the public confusing important science with Dr. Moreau, or simply a result of Republican Party ignorance about science and their leaders being mislead by grass roots (anti-evolution/science) conservatives.

Posted by: jerry on February 1, 2006 at 7:24 AM | PERMALINK

"T-Shirts and Repugs"

During the last election , three Oregon teachers were given tickets to a Twiggie campaign stop in Jackson, OR, a Southern Red Oregon area. They all wore t-shirts saying "Protect Our Civil Liberties". They were threatened with arrest and removed from the Repug Love IN.

So, if you are a lady wearing a T-shirt to a Twig rally, make sure that it either says "Go Bush", or "Hooters."

Posted by: thethirdPaul on February 1, 2006 at 9:14 AM | PERMALINK

I made a point of watching the whole thing because now this mess is getting big enough to require big sacrifices from me.

He got a big response for stating he has an exit plan for Iraq. Why haven't we seen it?

He vowed to cut ME oil imports 75% by 2025. Well no shit. We've passed peak oil. World wide oil production will be cut by 75% in 2025 simply because that's all that's left.

Other that that sly misdirection the speech was a bunch of big statements which are the opposite of what he is really doing. Lies, plain and simple.

And the chutzpa of continuing to push his tax 'cuts' as the solution to economic problems is absolutely incredible, and I don't mean that in the good sense.

Posted by: Tripp on February 1, 2006 at 10:02 AM | PERMALINK

I heard Kaine talked about God. No wonder Kevin hasn't said a word about it.

Posted by: Chad on February 1, 2006 at 10:09 AM | PERMALINK

Reading the Kaine response wasn't a whole lot better than seeing it delivered, sadly enough ...

Bob

Posted by: rmck1 on February 1, 2006 at 10:12 AM | PERMALINK

I heard God talked about Kaine. No wonder Chad hasn't said a word about it.

Posted by: Abel on February 1, 2006 at 10:19 AM | PERMALINK

Proud to say I didn't see one second of the Bushitter. Why listen to a lying liar lie some more? Let's hear it for the WB and videotapes. I'd rather get "the treatment" in Abu Ghraib then watch the SOTU.

Posted by: Punky on February 1, 2006 at 10:23 AM | PERMALINK

Was there a transmitter in his suit jacket this time?

Posted by: ckelly on February 1, 2006 at 10:26 AM | PERMALINK

Human-animal hybrids
Yeah. And if we don't ban gay marriage in the Constitution it will be chaos. Men marrying sheep! Cats and Dogs living together!

Posted by: ckelly on February 1, 2006 at 10:28 AM | PERMALINK

i just read the transcript (and haven't had a chance to read all these comments, so please forgive any redundancy). it just seemed, hmm, LAME to me. a whole lotta nuthin' as it were.

i flatly don't believe that there will be any bipartisan effort from Bush, for the simple fact that there hasn't been any up to this point. hell, Bush isn't even one to seek counsel from his own party, much less Dems. he's more a "do it cuz i said so" kinda guy.

there was no explanation of any policy initiative in anything approaching detail, like more than two sentances. and as KD said all the foreign policy stuff was the same ol' shit diff SOTU.

my one HUH? moment "human life should never be disposed of" (or words to that effect) yeah, you gonna ban invitro fertilization, etc now?

Posted by: e1 on February 1, 2006 at 10:32 AM | PERMALINK

...human life should never be disposed of"

Unless of course, it's brown-skinned.

Posted by: ckelly on February 1, 2006 at 10:40 AM | PERMALINK

Awww ... I was really hoping for my own personal homonculus to keep me company and fetch things for me in my old age, but no ... Bush is against that.

Well, if there will be no human-animal hybrids, could I at least, you know, stick my dad's head in a jar connected to tubes so he could keep the family company long after his body poops out? Is that too much to ask?

Seems to me Bush is being awfully restrictive on the promise of genetic research ...

Bob

Posted by: rmck1 on February 1, 2006 at 10:40 AM | PERMALINK

Have they shot Cindy Sheehan yet??
Posted by: Greg on January 31, 2006 at 9:48 PM

no, just arrested her for wearing a t-shirt

Posted by: e1 on February 1, 2006 at 10:41 AM | PERMALINK

And then there's genetically engineered sex pets, the universal answer to human loneliness and frustration ... what's wrong with enhancing 'em with a strategically placed human body part or two ... ?

What, no federal funding from Bush? Where's his sense of priorities ...

Bob

Posted by: rmck1 on February 1, 2006 at 10:49 AM | PERMALINK

He vowed to cut ME oil imports 75% by 2025. Well no shit. We've passed peak oil. World wide oil production will be cut by 75% in 2025 simply because that's all that's left.

Currently, the percentage of our oil imports from the Middle East is something like 20% of the total, so this may reflect little more than rhetoric anyway.

Posted by: Gomer on February 1, 2006 at 10:55 AM | PERMALINK

I forgot to mention one of Bush's most ludicrous claims - that he wants science to be featured more prominently in American education.

Clearly, Bush has a different view of what science "is", than most of us.

Posted by: Nemo on February 1, 2006 at 10:58 AM | PERMALINK

Bob,

Wait a minute, you mean Bush is outlawing hybrids? I thought he said he was putting money into them as a solution to the oil crisis.

I thought we were gonna develop human/horse hybrids so our citizens could run to work on their own two feet . . . I mean own four hooves, or whatever.

Me I wanna be a quarter horse. Arabians are fine and all but I'd like a little more power under the hood, I mean, ummmm, chassis? No, I mean power in the loins. Yeah, that's what I mean.

Posted by: Tripp on February 1, 2006 at 11:36 AM | PERMALINK

While I can hardly disagree that Kaine's delivery was worse than pathetic, I don't really think the content of his remarks was off-base. I would love it if the average American were as worked up as I am about invasions based on lies, presidents flouting the Constitution and rule of law so as to spy on their own citizens, vice presidents running secret energy commissions that reward big oil while paying lip service to alternative energy sources, and so on.

But they aren't. What does seem to finally be resonating with the average Joe and Jane is the massive incompetence these idiots show at every single task they halfheartedly undertake. I think Kaine's hammering home the idea that these guys don't know what they're doing--with the war, with Katrina, with the prescription drug bill, with freaking ANYTHING--is something that will prick up a lot of ears.

I hope I'm right.

Posted by: shortstop on February 1, 2006 at 11:38 AM | PERMALINK

Ashley wrote this: Why not let Cynthia McKinney get up there and whup some ass?

Basically, the answer is that the Democrats are trying to expand their presence in Congress this year and win the presidency in 2008. Cynthia McKinney would hurt them on both counts.

Posted by: contentious on February 1, 2006 at 11:41 AM | PERMALINK

My bad. Ms. Sheehan, says she did not plan to arrested:

http://americablog.blogspot.com/2006/02/cindy-sheehans-side-of-story-if-true.html

I apologize for a false assumption posted much earlier. I guess her naivet is, for some, part of her charm.

Posted by: Keith G on February 1, 2006 at 11:53 AM | PERMALINK

Shorstop,

I hope I'm right.

Me too. But you are wrong. They dems blew it. They made the fatal mistake of demonstrating incompetence on live TV. Their only hope is that few people saw it.

Yes TV is an artificial setting and yes it should not matter how one comes across on TV but in today's world it matters. It matters a lot.

The message was lost in the delivery. Kaine may be a fine person with great heart, mind, and soul, but he did not come across that way on TV.

Aside from Kaine himself the production was awful. They needed better lighting and makeup. If Kaine was not going to move (maybe he looks bad moving on TV) then they needed multiple (flattering) camera angles with cuts between them.

Someone needed to shape the whole presentation. Can anyone tell me the high-point? No, because there was none.

These things are simple TV production 101 topics. If I know about them they can not be rocket science.

If they had to they could have pre-produced the entire thing and shown the tape. Even showing nothing would have been better.

Posted by: Tripp on February 1, 2006 at 11:54 AM | PERMALINK

Actually, the Guttmacher study doesn't include information on abortions performed after 2000. Basically, it says that the abortion rate consistently declined under the "Pro-choice" Clinton, but does not comment on whether the rate has increased or deccreased under the "Pro-life" Bush.

Posted by: Chesire11 on February 1, 2006 at 12:37 PM | PERMALINK

They chose Kaine because he was the last Democrat to actually win an election. Although he did so by defeating a man whose campaign was self destructing.

You see, he is a Democratic governor who can speak god-talk so Democratic consultant got all orgasmic. Seems like no one checked his Q-Rating. Oppps.

Posted by: Keith G on February 1, 2006 at 12:46 PM | PERMALINK

The "isolationists" thing is probably a focus tested word designed to generate support from the ww2 generation (who are getting pretty muddle headed in their old age).

Posted by: jefff on February 1, 2006 at 1:10 PM | PERMALINK

What could Bush say which isn't a lie? I didn't watch.

Posted by: MarkH on February 1, 2006 at 1:16 PM | PERMALINK

Cheshire11:

you're full of shit...read the actual study (the link is there)...it contains 2001 and 2002 data.

Posted by: Nathan on February 1, 2006 at 2:08 PM | PERMALINK

I can't believe Cindy Sheehan got arrested for wearing a t-shirt, and the mainstream media is acting like she did something wrong! She says she wasn't warned, but who cares? Don't we have the right to protest anymore? How can it be against the law to wear a t-shirt with an anti-war slogan on it? Geez. Give me the good old days, when people got arrested for being topless.

Here's my question: Are we going to renumber the amendments, now that the first one is null and void, or will we leave it as a place-holder?

I thought Kaine's speech was good, but hey, what do I know?

And a big shout-out to rmck1 - we miss you over at the NYT Forums. (It's gmac, here...) The usual suspects continue to offend, so I don't blame you for avoiding the place.

Posted by: cmac on February 1, 2006 at 2:24 PM | PERMALINK

Hey, did anybody see this piece yet?

http://www.bradenton.com/mld/bradenton/news/13763761.htm

Apparently Ms. Sheehan wasn't the only ejectee from the SOTU. The wife of a Republican Congressman also got tossed for wearing a t-shirt that said, Support our Troops, or some such.

What a bunch of idiots.

Posted by: cmac on February 1, 2006 at 2:36 PM | PERMALINK

shortstop: While I can hardly disagree that Kaine's delivery was worse than pathetic, I don't really think the content of his remarks was off-base.

i disagree about Kaine's delivery. He was honest, earnest, sincere and intense. A very nice contrast with the empty bombast of Dean and Kerry. Kaine had the demeanor of a man who can actually do the work.

Posted by: contentious on February 1, 2006 at 9:42 PM | PERMALINK




 

 

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