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February 9, 2006
By: Kevin Drum

GEORGE DEUTSCH UPDATE....I have some advice for ex-NASA flack and Texas A&M dropout George Deutsch: When you're in a hole, your first order of business is to stop digging. At the rate you're going, you're going to be in China before long.

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Why are you dissing the Chief Political advisor to President Jenna Bush during the years 2037-2045?

Posted by: lib on February 9, 2006 at 7:23 PM | PERMALINK

Stop picking on the poor kid Kevin, after all, all the grown-ups in the administration were allowed to push their agenda, suppress science, censor people who take a contrary view, and lie, why shouldn't he be allowed to do so as well?

It's all just so unfair, as an 8 year-old might say.

Posted by: Ugh on February 9, 2006 at 7:24 PM | PERMALINK

Some people say that Deutsch lied on his job application and rsum, but that's just a theory. Like the Big Bang. Or evolution. Or Intelligent Deceit.

Posted by: Zeno on February 9, 2006 at 7:28 PM | PERMALINK

I have some advice for ex-NASA flack and Texas A&M dropout George Deutsch: When you're in a hole, your first order of business is to stop digging.

CLICK THE LINK. ALWAYS CLICK THE LINK.

" In the interview, Mr. Deutsch said that Dr. Hansen had partisan ties "all the way up to the top of the Democratic Party," and that he was "using those ties and using his media connections to push an agenda, a worst-case-scenario agenda of global warming." He said that anyone who disagrees with Dr. Hansen "is labeled a censor and is demonized and vilified in the media and the media of course is a willing accomplice here."

Mr. Deutsch contended that although Dr. Hansen was a scientist, he wanted to talk about policy as well as science. "He wants to demean the president, he wants to demean the administration and create a false perception that the administration is watering down science and lying to the public," Mr. Deutsch said. "And that is patently false.""

Shorter Kevin Drum: Scientists and the media should be able to lie about science and Bush and no one can call them on it.

Posted by: Al on February 9, 2006 at 7:29 PM | PERMALINK

Ah-hah!! Ah-hah! he admits, twice, that he is a "human being" and not just the imperfect shadow of a heavnly angel creature bound to walk the earth until he is redeemed in fire. But that's just a theory...

Posted by: scott on February 9, 2006 at 7:30 PM | PERMALINK

At the rate you're going, you're going to be in China before long.

Kevin, your comment about ending up in China assumes that the earth is round. This, too, is "just a theory" that Deutsch might wish to dispute.

Posted by: Zeno on February 9, 2006 at 7:32 PM | PERMALINK

Hee, hee. Things are getting just a little uncomfortable for the Bush Bootlicking Brigade. And HFT, too.

Posted by: shortstop on February 9, 2006 at 7:34 PM | PERMALINK

Al, I did click the link.

In other words, the only defense he offered was that the charges against him were "biased." He offered no specifics about what wrong things had been said about him, and didn't explain why a 24 year old non-degreed nonspecialist should be allowed to tell career scientists what terminology to use. Nor did he explain why he made false statements on his resume. He just said that his critics were "biased."

Posted by: jimBOB on February 9, 2006 at 7:35 PM | PERMALINK

"My integrity and credibility..."

Posted by: Robert on February 9, 2006 at 7:35 PM | PERMALINK

Is there a boot camp for young Republicans or something, because I'm at impressed at how the tender age of 24, Mr. Deutch has the whiny aggrieved white guy victimhood thing down pat.

Posted by: Hank Scorpio on February 9, 2006 at 7:47 PM | PERMALINK

C'mon. There is absolutely no sense of shame for anyone connected to the Rethug party or the hard right. Not even a hue and cry from the supposedly moral rank and file. If there was any decency on the right, why would a complete tool like Gannon/Guckert think he could show his face in public after being "exposed"? Why wasn't he at least verbally tarred and feathered by the likes of Dobson or Robertson? Not a peep, though, according to Robertson, Katrina destroyed NO because there were gay people there!

Why is Michael Brown anywhere near the Federal government as anything other than a delivery boy?

It's more pervasive than that, though. How else do you explain Paul Wolfowitz being made head of the World Bank? If there was ever an instance when the member nations had a reason to do something other than customarily rubber stamping the nominee, you would have thought this would be the occassion for this.

It was either at Talking Points or Daily Kos, but one of the two sites had a list of all the Bush appointees that had absolutely no business being in their positions. The list ran to more than a dozen people.

The simple fact is that the right just doesn't give a shit. They really don't care about the nation. They are completely incapable of seeing the big picture. Hubris compounded by stupidity and incompetence.

Posted by: Jeff II on February 9, 2006 at 7:47 PM | PERMALINK

"using those ties and using his media connections to push an agenda, a worst-case-scenario agenda of global warming."

I'm going to speak REALLY SLOW for the Republicans in the audience:

There is not chance in hell Deutsch is qualified to make that decision.

Nice job, Republicans. One more step in the Sovietification of America.

All hail, Comrade Deutsch and his glorious duties in service to the Ministry of Truth!

Posted by: teece on February 9, 2006 at 7:49 PM | PERMALINK

Smack the Deutschie from the left-hand side.

Posted by: shortstop on February 9, 2006 at 7:51 PM | PERMALINK

How dumb do you have to be to drop out of texas a&m? At least cheney had the stuff to drop out of yale....twice.

Posted by: Pechorin on February 9, 2006 at 7:56 PM | PERMALINK

Al, why don't you try doublespeak instead of Golum-speak for a few threads. The "Click the linky, Click the linky" stuff followed by a block quote of dipshit talking points is getting a little old.

Posted by: B on February 9, 2006 at 7:56 PM | PERMALINK

excellent, shortstop!!

Posted by: Sunbeam on February 9, 2006 at 8:02 PM | PERMALINK

"Mr. Deutch has the whiny aggrieved white guy victimhood thing down pat."

Where this guy's going, that's a CAREER SKILL.

I predict this little pischer will become a highly paid lecturer on Sound Science and the evils of the liberal media.

Posted by: Stefan Jones on February 9, 2006 at 8:02 PM | PERMALINK

Damn, I say damn, that boy is FEMA material - has leadership written all over him - FEMA needs that 12th Man spirit. Sign him, I say sign him, boys.

Posted by: Claghorn Foghorn on February 9, 2006 at 8:03 PM | PERMALINK

And to think, this level of batshit craziness is de riguer to get a job with the Bush Administration.

Posted by: Pocket Rocket on February 9, 2006 at 8:09 PM | PERMALINK

" In the interview, Mr. Deutsch said that he had partisan ties "all the way up to the top of the Republican Party," and that he was "using those ties and using his media connections to push an agenda, to deny a worst-case-scenario agenda of global warming." He said that anyone who disagrees with President Bush "is labeled an activist and is demonized and vilified in the media and the media of course is a willing accomplice here."

Mr. Deutsch contended that although he was not a scientist, he wanted to talk about science as well as policy. "I want to praise the president, I want to praise the administration and create a false perception that the administration is not watering down science and lying to the public," Mr. Deutsch said. "And that is patently false.""

Posted by: Alf on February 9, 2006 at 8:17 PM | PERMALINK

These Republicans are so angry all the time, so whiny. Nervous that someone may actually call them on the quality of their leadership over the past five years.

Take high school graduate George Deutsch, for example.

Posted by: The Hague on February 9, 2006 at 8:23 PM | PERMALINK

"I was being smeared. My integrity and credibility was being questioned. And as a human being, as a human being, I just could not take it anymore."


He's had enough. He just can't take anymore of this being called on his faked resume and lack of qualifications. Heck, some of his young Republican friends on the Iraq rebuilding project were far, far less qualified. And boy did they make money. It ain't fair.

Posted by: snicker-snack on February 9, 2006 at 8:23 PM | PERMALINK

Isn't it a felony to falsify your resum for a federal job?

The disheartening thing is that Mr. Deutsch and his ilk seem to actually believe that climate scientists are pushing a global warming "agenda" only because they have it in for George Bush. Kyoto never happened, I guess.

Posted by: me2i81 on February 9, 2006 at 8:29 PM | PERMALINK

I clicked the link, and learned that the poor fellow is somewhat thin-skinned. Hopefully, he will be able to move back in with his mother.

Posted by: Hedley Lamarr on February 9, 2006 at 8:39 PM | PERMALINK

"Isn't it a felony to falsify your resum for a federal job?"

You would think so. Cisneros was prosecuted because he lied about how much he paid his mistress during his FBI investigation.

And, did this guy have a security clearance? Did he lie about his degree on the forms that he had to fill out for that investigation?

Posted by: arkie on February 9, 2006 at 8:41 PM | PERMALINK

I'm sure he'll be picked up by some right-wing think tank by the end of the week...

Posted by: Drinker Nisti on February 9, 2006 at 8:42 PM | PERMALINK

He said, "I would really like to clear the air and defend my integrity."

So smearing a serious scientist about something he is not qualified to discuss is an example of his integrity?

The Fake Al should take his name in right wing memory. One George down, another to go!

Posted by: Guy Banister on February 9, 2006 at 8:44 PM | PERMALINK

Give it a rest boys, Mr. Deutsch has had his 15 minutes of fame.

Maybe he should go back to school, complete his degree and get a real job?

Posted by: Ron Byers on February 9, 2006 at 8:45 PM | PERMALINK

"Isn't it a felony to falsify your resum for a federal job?"

The answer would seem to be Yes (but did he fill out an application or was appointed directly to the position):

Office of Personnel Management
OF 510: http://www.opm.gov/forms/html/of.asp

If you make a false statement in any part of your application, you may not be hired; you may be fired after you begin work; or you may be fined or jailed.

Posted by: arkie on February 9, 2006 at 8:48 PM | PERMALINK

Deutsch says his integrity and credibility were being questons, but doesn't that presuppose that he actually *has* some integrity and credibility?

As a political appointee and former Bush "war room" intern, one assumes from the outset, until proven otherwise, that he has no integrity. As a person with no science background whatsoever, or even any indication that he understands or is in any way interested in science, he has zero credibility when it comes to instructing scientists about what they should say.

Posted by: Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) on February 9, 2006 at 8:52 PM | PERMALINK

"...as a human being, as a human being..."

Apparently his defense rests on a technicality.

Posted by: brucds on February 9, 2006 at 8:53 PM | PERMALINK

The lad ought to hope the scientist "is connected to the Democratic party all the way to the top." Because if he isn't he just libeled him. And I may be wrong, but no such individual listed as a political constibutor on Tray.com.

Posted by: Pat on February 9, 2006 at 8:55 PM | PERMALINK

I admire him for speaking dishonesty to powerlessness. It takes inhuman chutzpa to do that.

Posted by: Saam Barrager on February 9, 2006 at 9:16 PM | PERMALINK

Why did the Times interview leave out the part where Mr. Deutsch broke into a rousing rendition of "Tomorrow Belongs to Me"?

Posted by: Davis X. Machina on February 9, 2006 at 9:18 PM | PERMALINK

Kevin Drum >"...When you're in a hole, your first order of business is to stop digging..."

Guess I`ll have to disagree

I`d like him to keep on bloviating if for no other reason than to use as an example of the inherent meaness & stupidity of the Bush Handlers, Inc. Brown Shirt Army

"There is nothing worse than a sharp image of a fuzzy concept." - Ansel Adams

Posted by: daCascadian on February 9, 2006 at 9:24 PM | PERMALINK

Poor boy needs medical help. Anybody know a good neuroproctologist?

Posted by: DaveL on February 9, 2006 at 9:40 PM | PERMALINK

You guys need to be careful, just like those valentine's day candy hearts, it *is* possible to OD on snark.

Posted by: Red State Mike on February 9, 2006 at 9:59 PM | PERMALINK

I don't have the quote quite right, and I can't name the movie, but a stuffed shirt tells Mae West: "My integrity has never been questioned!"
The divine Ms. W purrs: "Questioned? I've never even heard it mentioned."

Posted by: C.J.Colucci on February 9, 2006 at 10:07 PM | PERMALINK

You guys need to be careful, just like those valentine's day candy hearts, it *is* possible to OD on snark.

No way.
We'd all have died years ago.
The one good thing about the last 5 years has been dispelling this particular medical myth.

Posted by: Al trainee #27 on February 9, 2006 at 10:12 PM | PERMALINK


Why would you need security clearance to work for an agency that stages faux moon landings and cooks up moonbat theories about "Big Bangs" and stuff?

Posted by: ogmb on February 9, 2006 at 10:13 PM | PERMALINK

In the faith-based world of Roveadopeistan, the more of an ass this guy makes of himself, the more likely he is to get a more lucrative promotion. (Scooter Libby's replacement by the end of 06?).

The fact is, the more this guy's lack of qualifications are pointed out, the higher profile Rove will want him to have. More lightning-roddyness.

Posted by: Mammon on February 9, 2006 at 10:22 PM | PERMALINK

"He had contacts all the way up to the top of the Democratic Party....he wore glasses. He had books.....crazy books wityh all kinds of crazy ideas in them....many of them about things that contradicted the bible..."

Deutsch is the very poster boy for today's Repiglican party. Dumb. Ideologically driven. Wrong on every issue.

Posted by: JMaccabee on February 9, 2006 at 10:28 PM | PERMALINK

It's more pervasive than that, though. How else do you explain Paul Wolfowitz being made head of the World Bank? If there was ever an instance when the member nations had a reason to do something other than customarily rubber stamping the nominee, you would have thought this would be the occassion for this.


Posted by: Jeff II on February 9, 2006 at 7:47 PM | PERMALINK

Have you ever heard of the idea of giving one enough rope to hang oneself?

Posted by: Dismayed Liberal on February 9, 2006 at 10:50 PM | PERMALINK

The posts to this thread are having a fun time with roasting Mr. Deutsch, but he is a distraction from the main issue here. NASA scientists are being forced to have public-affairs "minders" in the room during interviews on NASA facilities. If the interview is by phone, the minder must be on the line to guard against unapproved speech. All formal contacts with journalists and private citizens require prior approval. The NASA scientists I know take it as a given that NASA HQ would nix a formal meeting with a known environmental advocate or a group like Greenpeace. Our government i9s getting more like the old Communist regimes.

This kind of treatment goes against the grain of science, where free exchange of ideas is paramount, It also shortchanges the American people of the scientific results and opinions that they pay taxes for. The stuff these guys do isnt classified. There is no national security to be compromised. Only the job security of little twerps like Mr. Deutsch.

Posted by: troglodyte on February 9, 2006 at 10:54 PM | PERMALINK

Everything Deustch says resonates with the Republican base. He has a bright future.

Posted by: Hostile on February 9, 2006 at 10:59 PM | PERMALINK

Deustch is obviously cut out for journalism. At least he's proved that.

Posted by: cq on February 9, 2006 at 11:09 PM | PERMALINK

From the radio interview:

"Dr. James Hansen has for a long time been a proponent of a particular global warming agenda - that being that global warming is a horrific problem that will destroy the earth very soon and that steps need to be taken to stop it. What he's willing to do is to smear people and to misrepresent things to the media and to the public to get that message accross. What's sad here is there are partisan ties of his all the way up to the top of the Democratic party and he's using those ties and using his media connections to push an agenda, a worst case scenario agenda of global warming, a "the sky is falling" agenda of global warming. And anybody who is even perceived to disagree with him is labeled a censor and is demonized and vilified in the media - and the media of course is a willing accomplice here.

It bears mentioning that there has yet to be any proof of any scientific watering down or any scientific censorship coming from NASA in regards to Hansen or anybody else. What you do have is hearsay coming from a handful of people with who have clear partisan ties, and they're really coming after me as a Bush appointee and the rest of the Bush appointees because this is a partisan issue. It's a cultural war issue. They do not like Republicans. They do not like people who support the president. They do not like Christians. And if you're perceived as disagreeing with them or being one of those people, they will stop at nothing to discredit you."

Global warming is now a Culture War issue?

Posted by: Quiddity on February 9, 2006 at 11:21 PM | PERMALINK

The part of the article I liked is where it mentions that the interview he gave was conducted by a reporter who is still a senior at Texas A&M and who briefly worked with Deutsch at the shool newspaper in 2004.

Like his hero Bush, Deutsch doesn't step out of his comfort box and talk to anyone that might ask real questions.

Posted by: tanj on February 9, 2006 at 11:24 PM | PERMALINK

Quiddity on February 9, 2006 at 11:21 PM:

Global warming is now a Culture War issue?

Yesterday it was a Sanctity of Life issue. Tomorrow it will be an National Economic Strength issue.

Will the Democrats recognize it as a wedge issue?

Georgie Deutsch:

My integrity and credibility was being questioned.

...ah-ha-Ha-HA-HA HA HA HA Hee hee-hee hee...

[wiping off tears of laughter]

Who is this kid's speechwriter? Jeff Gannon?

Posted by: grape_crush on February 10, 2006 at 12:03 AM | PERMALINK

> "worst case"

Oh, what a poor education this youngster had. Do they teach science to undergrad journalists?

When he was, what, fourteen years old, when the Nobel was awarded to the three scientists who studied the loss of stratospheric ozone, one of them, Paul Crutzen, pointed out that if industry had used bromine instead of chlorine for their halogenated fluorocarbon compounds -- almost a tossup, a marketplace decision that could have gone either way, things could have been much worse -- the ozone layer could have been drastically damaged worldwide decades before anyone had a clue what was wrong.

http://www.esa.int/esaCP/Pr_3_2002_i_EN.html

"... before 1974 no one was concerned about the effects of chlorine and bromine on the atmosphere, I can only say that we were lucky. This shows that we should be on our toes about the possible effects of the introduction of new products in the environment. A permanent surveillance of the composition of the stratosphere should enjoy high priority for many years to come." -- Paul Crutzen, 1995 Nobel Prize

Posted by: hank on February 10, 2006 at 1:01 AM | PERMALINK

Maybe he should go back to school, complete his degree and get a real job?

Actually, I hear the Marines are looking for a few good men. Considering what a committed young man Mr. Deutsch is I bet the next we're going to hear of him he'll have enlisted and be on his way to fight terrorists mano-a-mano in Iraq....

Or, you know, not.

Posted by: Stefan on February 10, 2006 at 1:07 AM | PERMALINK

From now on, the term for young, far-unqualified GOP political appointees should be: Deutsch-bags.

Posted by: Will on February 10, 2006 at 1:17 AM | PERMALINK

Leslie McCarthy, a public affairs officer who told The Times of several conversations in which Mr. Deutsch said his job was to "make the president look good" [...]

And you thought coal mining was tough...

Posted by: Mrs. Niggerbaiter on February 10, 2006 at 1:28 AM | PERMALINK

But -- come to think of it -- this youngster is probably regurgitating exactly what he's been taught in his political environment -- but he's saying what he heard behind the scenes, in private, uncensored, unpolitic.

He's saying in public the 'motivational' stuff the Republicans are telling their interns and young staff who aren't thinking for themselves.

The words coming from him have to be what his mentors actually told him is the truth -- that scientists are the enemy of all he thinks is right.

First they came for the scientists, this time.


Posted by: hank on February 10, 2006 at 1:32 AM | PERMALINK

I fear that hank speaks the truth. The Bush interns are fed lies from their heroes.

Posted by: troglodyte on February 10, 2006 at 1:51 AM | PERMALINK

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Posted by: david on February 10, 2006 at 3:35 AM | PERMALINK

Wow, there's more spam here than an Hawaiian supermarket!

Posted by: TomStewart on February 10, 2006 at 3:44 AM | PERMALINK

C'mon, david, speak utf-8. I can't understand a word you say

Posted by: mikmik on February 10, 2006 at 4:01 AM | PERMALINK

Texas A&M is a rather rigorous University. There is probably a good reason why Mr. Deutch didn't graduate. He isn't smart enough.

He better look out. With his level of credibility and integrity the German government is going to sue him for misuse of the namen "Deutch." The penalty will be a mandatory name change (doubtless to something French), a heavy fine and a prohibition from ever travelling to Deutchland.

Posted by: Rick B on February 10, 2006 at 5:13 AM | PERMALINK

Texas A&M is a rather rigorous University.

One is obliged to repeat Tbogg's aggie joke at this point.

A guy walks into a bar and says to the bartender, "Hey bartender, I know a great Aggie joke. You want to hear it?" The bartender says, "Well, before you tell it I should probably tell you that I went to A&M. And you see those two big guys sitting next to you -- they were linebackers for the A&M football team. And those two guys on your other side -- they're Marines, and they used to be in the Corps of Cadets at A&M. Now, are you sure you really want to tell that Aggie joke?"

The guy thinks for a second. "I guess not," he said. "I wouldn't want to have to explain it five times."

Posted by: Jay on February 10, 2006 at 7:03 AM | PERMALINK

Shhhh.

Working on new words for "Tomorrow belongs to me"

Got to replace the mental picture of Hitler Youth uniforms with something more chic and made in China..

Life is a Cabernet? (???? ?3?? ??8????)

Posted by: CFShep on February 10, 2006 at 9:49 AM | PERMALINK

"s there a boot camp for young Republicans or something"
Posted by: Hank Scorpio


Yeah, it's called the College Republicans. I haven't seen the guy's resume, but I'd give 2-to-1 that he was an officer in the A&M chapter.

Posted by: mmy on February 10, 2006 at 9:55 AM | PERMALINK

About his resume, Deutch said, "I failed to update my resume when I left college. Some people might have been misled."

I'm laughing out loud at that one. Wow, that's a great one, I wonder if Rove or Bush will ever use it at some time. "I failed to update you when I found out that Saddam had no WMD. Some people might have been misled."

Posted by: Doctor Jay on February 10, 2006 at 10:11 AM | PERMALINK

Deutsch is digging way beyond China: This article is from Friday's Houston Chronicle:


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HoustonChronicle.com -- http://www.HoustonChronicle.com | Section: Front page

Feb. 10, 2006, 1:03AM

'Culture war' at NASA?
Former public affairs officer says he was a victim of a smear campaign
By MARK CARREAU
Copyright 2006 Houston Chronicle

The young public affairs officer who resigned from NASA this week amidst controversy over his handling of communications on global warming charged on Thursday he's the victim of a politically motivated smear campaign.

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George Deutsch, 24, a former Texas A&M University student who left the school to work on President Bush's 2004 re-election campaign, lashed back at those who accused him of scientific censorship.

He directed much of his wrath at James Hansen, a prominent NASA climatologist who complained in media reports that Deutsch was relying on Republican dogma to restrain scientifically motivated concerns about global warming.


'A very partisan agenda'
"What is going on at NASA and throughout the federal government is a culture war," Deutsch said in a statement from his Washington-area home. "I quickly learned one thing: Dr. Hansen and his supporters have a very partisan agenda and ties reaching to the top of the Democratic Party."

In a telephone interview, Deutsch accused the space agency of too often showcasing Hansen as its expert on global warming, passing over other scientists whose views were not as alarming.

"If you don't have an idea that is in line with his agenda of global warming, if you don't have this sky-is-falling mentality, then you are considered the wacko," he charged.

Deutsch said he was especially appalled at what he characterized as an alliance between Hansen and Al Gore, the former Democratic presidential nominee who writes and speaks often on environmental issues.

Deutsch resigned from NASA late Tuesday after one year as a junior member of the agency's Washington public affairs staff. His departure came after a little-known Web site operated by a Texas A&M biochemistry graduate disclosed Deutsch's rsum falsely claimed an undergraduate degree from the school.


Hansen, NASA fire back
On Thursday, both Hansen, who directs climate research from the Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York City, and NASA challenged the allegations by Deutsch.

"I have no idea where he got that idea. It would be the opposite of our credo about presenting all sides of a problem," Hansen wrote in an e-mail in response to the charge he tried to suppress opposing views.

Hansen also characterized himself as a moderately conservative independent who favors the positions of U.S. Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., on campaign finance reform and climate change.

Hansen's views on global warming were not favored over others, said Dean Acosta, chief spokesman for NASA administrator Michael Griffin. "I can tell you categorically that is not happening," said Acosta.

Deutsch acknowledged he'd erred in claiming an A&M degree on his rsum. He claimed he informed NASA that he lacked the math class he needed to complete the degree.

mark.carreau@chron.com


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HoustonChronicle.com -- http://www.HoustonChronicle.com | Section: Front page
This article is: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/3649226.html

Posted by: BWR on February 10, 2006 at 10:13 AM | PERMALINK

Deutsch acknowledged he'd erred in claiming an A&M degree on his rsume.

"I erred" instead of "I lied."

"I made a mistake in judgment" instead of "I screwed up."

"I regret if others were inconvenienced" instead of "I'm sorry."

I blame Richard "Mistakes Were Made" Nixon. He really got the ball rolling on today's popular acceptance of these ubiquitous and ridiculous non-admissions of wrongdoing.

Posted by: shortstop on February 10, 2006 at 10:30 AM | PERMALINK

Gotta give, I say, gotta give the boy a pass - as a military cadet from A&M, the boy, I say, the boy probably thought he was going to work at Pennemunde.

Posted by: Claghorn Foghorn on February 10, 2006 at 10:41 AM | PERMALINK

Was this guy home-schooled? He sounds an awful lot like the home-schooled youth I've had the pleasure to know.

"No credibility?! My mommy gave me a super A plus plus in creation science and I answered every question exactly right on the ACT - the American Christian Test - "God did it."

Anyone who doesn't totally agree with me must be biased and slanderous and I'm gonna run home to my Mommy right now."

I think on my next resume I'm gonna put "finally answered the Unified Field question" because I plan to do that someday.

If anyone questions me I'll say I simply haven't gotten around to doing it yet and forgot to take it off my resume.

Posted by: Tripp on February 10, 2006 at 10:44 AM | PERMALINK

Great idea, Tripp.

And building on the "You Could Learn a Lot from a Bush Dummy" theme, try doing this at your next annual review: Tell your boss you singlehandedly averted disaster on several of your team's projects. In fact, your quick work and perspicacity saved the company from the evil attempts of some unnamed bad actors to bring the whole place crashing down.

Decline to provide details when pressed. Act outraged and hurt that your boss isn't just taking you on your word, since clearly you're only thinking about protecting the company. Stomp out of the room.

Posted by: shortstop on February 10, 2006 at 10:52 AM | PERMALINK

Deutsch acknowledged he'd erred in claiming an A&M degree on his rsum. He claimed he informed NASA that he lacked the math class he needed to complete the degree.

Why does this surprise me least of all?

Posted by: sglover on February 10, 2006 at 10:53 AM | PERMALINK

The winner of this thread gets the Maureen Dowd Award for Snark...where we strap you into a chair with your eyelids glued open, while MoDo herself dressed in leather and chiffon gives a 24 hour continuous reading of her columns printed since 2000.

Posted by: RSM on February 10, 2006 at 10:57 AM | PERMALINK

Perhaps Milton Waddams will play him in the movie.

Posted by: stupid git on February 10, 2006 at 11:03 AM | PERMALINK

RSM,

I'd take Dowd in chiffon and leather over Cheney in droning middle-management mode any day.

If you really want to torture me make me watch Bush pronounce 'nuclear' over and over. I'd spill the beans in about two minutes.

Posted by: Tripp on February 10, 2006 at 11:13 AM | PERMALINK

At Pennemunde, our V-2s never harmed one blade of grass - There is a war on - Herr Ron was only following my orders. In fact, he is another sterling example of what our Bush Youth can accomplish.

Posted by: Werner von Braun on February 10, 2006 at 11:20 AM | PERMALINK

Werner again - I meant Herr George - Brownie, Ron, Scott, Tom, Scooter, Jack I get them all confused.

Posted by: Werner von Braun on February 10, 2006 at 11:24 AM | PERMALINK

Al:

I would be pleased to discuss in detail whether the administration has distorted the science of global warming, but I suspect that you would do no better than Matt - speaking of which, I have a reply to post. Matt, you are not off the hook!

Regards,
Yelling

Posted by: Yelling in the fog on February 10, 2006 at 11:38 AM | PERMALINK

Jeff II, I think you're thinking of "Welcome to the Hackocracy: the Bush Administration's 15 worst hacks," which appeared not at TPM or Daily Kos, but at the New Republic.

(Yes, as in, "even the liberal" New Republic, the liberal magazine for people who think Joe Lieberman is a little too far left.)

Posted by: cminus on February 10, 2006 at 11:54 AM | PERMALINK

Heckuva job, Deutschy!

With so many liberals in science things don't always work out. Thanks for doing the party's heavy lifting!

Undoubtedly there's a much higher paying job waiting for you at some lobbying firm on K Street. Try sending your resume to the Heritage Foundation.

I'd recommend sending your CV to Jack, but he's tied up at the moment.

Posted by: pj_in_jesusland on February 10, 2006 at 11:55 AM | PERMALINK

What I see in Deutsch's interview is the same thing I see in all the comments posted here by the Bush bootlickers: to them, it's all about Bush. It's all about defending the little fake, phony "leader" that they slavishly worship in their pathetic desire to be the groveling subjects of an all-powerful King.

The substance of the global warming issue is unimportant to Deutsch. All he knows or cares about is that Hansen is a "threat" to Bush, or Hansen "disrespects" Bush; therefore, to Deutsch, Hansen must be an evil liberal in league with the evil Democrats (who are evil by definition because they oppose Bush), and all good "Christians" (by which Deutsch means "idolators of George W. Bush") must rise to the battle to defend their leader, lord and ruler, Bush.

This is the classic psychology of the brownshirt fascist goon, and it's the same psychology that the Bush bootlickers display here every day with their comments.

Posted by: SecularAnimist on February 10, 2006 at 12:33 PM | PERMALINK

Secular:
What I see in Deutsch's interview is the same thing I see in all the comments posted here by the Bush bootlickers: to them, it's all about Bush.

Well, maybe that's because for the Washington Monthly homeboys, it's all about hating Bush. In short, you started it.

Posted by: Red State Mike on February 10, 2006 at 12:46 PM | PERMALINK

Well, maybe that's because for the Washington Monthly homeboys, it's all about hating Bush. In short, you started it.

Which is kinda stupid. You mean you're actually DEFENDING this kind of incompetency?

No business could survive with this kind of organizational behavior. It should not be tolerated, no matter where it's coming from.

Posted by: gwangung on February 10, 2006 at 1:02 PM | PERMALINK

Red-State Mike (someday you're going to get that modifier right):

Why not list for us every action taken by the Bush administration that you think was a) well considered, b) carefully strategized, c) ethical, d) effective, e) followed through on and f) good for the country?*

Be as specific as you can in listing every example you can think of. Thanks in advance.


*I'll leave off g) good for the world, because most Bush supporters are under the impression that e) and f) have zero overlap.

Posted by: shortstop on February 10, 2006 at 1:11 PM | PERMALINK

Shortstop (and gwangung):
Why not list for us every action taken by the Bush administration...

well, there you go. It's all about Bush, 24/7. Mrs. King dies? It's about Bush. Danish cartoons? Bush. Bush, Bush, Bush. Since you guys have cornered the market on Bush bashing and seem to be doing just fine with your Bush hating circle jerks, what do you expect a good self-respecting troll to do? Jump in to the hot tub too? This is a debating society, and since you guys pick the topic, which is always "why event X makes me hate Bush even more than I already do, and I already hate him as much as humanly possible, so I must not be human", it's your fault if the loyal opposition defends Bush.

For the record, I lick not the boot. Duestch was absolutely Lewinski-esque in his fervor to defend his CIC. I enjoy watching the young get whipped.

P.S., it's my name and I can misspelll it if I want to.

Posted by: Red State Mike on February 10, 2006 at 1:41 PM | PERMALINK

well, there you go. It's all about Bush,

No, it's not. I said it's about competency. Deutsch's behavior cannot be tolerated in a businesses and should be condemned, whether it's from a Republican or a Democrat.

I repeat. It's about competency.

Posted by: gwangung on February 10, 2006 at 1:57 PM | PERMALINK

Shorter Red-State Mike: I can't think of anything Bush did that meets all those criteria.

Hell, I'd have settled for you coming up with something that met a couple of them.

Look, Mike, this is a political blog. The president's actions actually have a major effect on our lives and those of people around the globe. If you don't like reading criticism from people who are concerned about these actions, go hang out at some site for bass fishing enthuasiasts or tea-cozy collectors or people who love Extreme Makeover.

Don't come here weeping and wailing about people pointing out the myriad Bush fuckups. You're approaching the problem from the wrong direction if you think complaining about massive incompetence is a greater issue than the incompetence itself.

(The King funeral comment is particularly ridiculous. Bush freaking attended the funeral for political points. He's the one who made it about himself. And he got exactly what he deserved for it.)

Posted by: shortstop on February 10, 2006 at 2:11 PM | PERMALINK

Everyone knows science is biased against Republicans. Deutsch was just pointing this out.

Posted by: Luddite on February 10, 2006 at 2:14 PM | PERMALINK

Shorter Shortstop: Darn, I tried to change the topic, but it didn't work.

Posted by: Red State Mike on February 10, 2006 at 2:23 PM | PERMALINK

However, how many more George Carlton Deutsch IIIs are out there? It was pointed out supra that he is merely the tip of the iceberg at NASA and in other Twiggie appointed positions.

He even lied when he talked about being interviewed by a reporter he had worked with on the Battalion in 04 - He left for the war room in 03.

GCD I and IIs have no comment at this time.

Posted by: thethirdPaul on February 10, 2006 at 2:26 PM | PERMALINK

Is that really your interpretation of events, Red-State Mike? Everyone else here is still discussing Bushco incompetence, which is, of course, the topic of a George Deutsch thread.

You, on the other hand, unsuccessfully tried to change the subject to the perfidy of those who dare to criticize Bush. Better luck next time, fella.

Posted by: shortstop on February 10, 2006 at 2:28 PM | PERMALINK

Hey, Drexel Hill Dimwit, George Carlton Deutsch III sounds like some kind of "elitist down hill schusser from Davos" to me.

Posted by: stupid git on February 10, 2006 at 2:30 PM | PERMALINK

Hey, Deutch was just expecting NASA to give him the same perks the German rocket scientists got. They did not have doctorates, and felt uncomfortable when meeting with scientists who did have doctorates. So NASA went to some diploma mill and BOUGHT them doctorate degrees.

Of course, the Germans understood math, but that is just discrimination. Besides, they were foreignors and immigrants. Deutch was a good American boy, superior to any immigrant. Why did he need math? He worked for NASA and should get equal benefits. NASA should have bought him a degree, also.

Posted by: Rick B on February 10, 2006 at 2:49 PM | PERMALINK

The Q remains as to who George Carlton Deutsch II is.

Big donor to Dear Leader? I'd take that one to the $2 window.

Posted by: CFShep on February 10, 2006 at 3:03 PM | PERMALINK

well, there you go. It's all about Bush, 24/7. Some schmoe employee gets a raise at a small midwest company? It's about Bush. Foreign scientists develop a new cure for disease? Bush. Bush, Bush, Bush. Since you guys have cornered the market on Bush fawning and seem to be doing just fine with your Bush loving circle jerks, what do you expect a good self-respecting troll to do? Jump in to the hot tub too? This is a debating society, and since you guys pick the topic, which is always "why event X makes me love Bush even more than I already do, and I already love him as much as humanly possible, so I must not be human", it's your fault if the loyal opposition criticizes Bush.

Posted by: Anti-Red State Mike on February 10, 2006 at 3:46 PM | PERMALINK

well, there you go. It's all about Bush, 24/7.

It may have escaped your notice, RSM, but the title of this site is "Washington Monthly" and that of the blog "Political Animal." Washington, Political, Washington, Political...so yes, most discussions will revolve around politics and, given that Bush is President and his party controls all three branches of government, most discussions about what that government does are going to come around to Bush at some point....

Posted by: Stefan on February 10, 2006 at 4:04 PM | PERMALINK

And from 1993 until 2001, Mother Republican gathered her entire brood around her and said to them, "If you can't say anything nice about Clinton, don't say anything at all". And as obedient children, they obeyed and there was peace and quiet throughout the land.

Posted by: thethirdPaul on February 10, 2006 at 4:29 PM | PERMALINK

Shorter Shortstop: Darn, I tried to change the topic, but it didn't work.

Ever shorter RSM: I tried to change the topic, and I succeeded!

Posted by: Irony Man on February 10, 2006 at 5:17 PM | PERMALINK

Red-state Mike,

Let's see. National politics is either the President, or the arcane actions of 535 Congress-turkeys, or the super arcane and super secretive actions of nine Justices.

Of those three, the most common federal actions that affect most Americans belong to the President. Somehow, I don't think Deutch got a check from the Congress or the Supreme Court. The single person ~responsible~ for hiring Deutch, directing and controlling his behavior and paying his paycheck.

OK. So we are here talking about Bush and his incompetence. A large part of his incompetence is in hiring Michael Brown at FEMA (and the resulting exodus of competent and experienced FEMA employees) and similar hiring idiocies such as (Ta - Daaa) Deutch!

Are we discussing here the incompetence of Bush as so-called President of the U.S.?

Sure looks like it.

Want to hear about the idiocies of Rick Perry, current so-called Governor of Texas? Oh, wait! He was hand-picked by Bush's Brain, K. Rove!

Outside Christian theology, where the source of all sin is the Devil, it really looks like the single central national (and Texas) evil in America today is George Bush. He puts the face on the incompetence, corruption, UnAmericanism and repeated failure of the Republican Party. Cheney is his evil twin, but he wouldn't be where he is without Bush.

Sadly, when Bush goes away, the conservatives and incompetent Republicans (like Brown and Deutch) will remain. A new (nasty and incompetent) face will take his place. Frist? McCain? Boehner? Gingrich (again)? Jeb Bush? Satan?

America has no shortage of such evil individuals. But for now, we have Dubya. He is the face of all the national political evils in America today.

Posted by: Rick B on February 11, 2006 at 7:55 AM | PERMALINK

Rick B
Let's see. National politics is either the President, or the arcane actions of 535 Congress-turkeys, or the super arcane and super secretive actions of nine Justices.

I'm not saying you shouldn't talk about politics or the President, who is the central figure. I *am* saying in reply to SecularAnimist that if you spend most of your effort talking down the currently republican president, you should *not* be surprised when the trollery spends most of its effort talking him up.

Duh

Anti-Red state Mike, your comments would be well taken in freeper-land.

Posted by: Red State Mike on February 11, 2006 at 8:05 AM | PERMALINK

Red-State Mike: I *am* saying in reply to SecularAnimist that if you spend most of your effort talking down the currently republican president, you should *not* be surprised when the trollery spends most of its effort talking him up.

And we've offered hundreds of specific examples of Bush actions for which we "talk him down." You continue to decline invitations to provide a single example of why you should "talk him up."

Is a little light starting to shine through? No? Well, keep boo-hooing about the mean old liberals, while Bush continues to screw up without accountability from his supporters, and we'll all go merrily along.

Posted by: shortstop on February 11, 2006 at 1:39 PM | PERMALINK

It looks like he defamed Hansen to me.

Posted by: Mark A. York on February 11, 2006 at 8:21 PM | PERMALINK

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