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February 12, 2006
By: Kevin Drum

WEATHER REPORT....Quick note to all my friends on the East Coast: it's beautiful, clear, sunny, and 77 degrees here in Southern California right now. Just thought you'd all like to know.

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Which quite honestly is the reason I would never move to Southern California. "But we can go to the mountains if we want snow" will come the refrain. Yeah, but (a) you don't (b) that is utterly missing the point.

Cranky

Posted by: Cranky Observer on February 12, 2006 at 3:11 PM | PERMALINK

Snow is wonderful. It's made of water. You folks out west are going to wish you had more of it very, very soon.

Posted by: David in NY on February 12, 2006 at 3:15 PM | PERMALINK

This message is for all those snowbound.

Don't you hate it when folks who are living in warmer climes are gloating about all the digging out you're doing now?

Snow happens. It also happens to melt eventually.

I've been hauling firewood all day, the woods in upstate NY only have a measely 2" of powder currently.

We've gotten maybe a 1/16 of an inch in the past 36 hrs.

Hmm if it's snowing at a rate of 3"/hr in Boston, 1/16" is falling every ~1.5 minutes! So by the time you've read this comment board, you are well on your way to 3/8"!!!!!

Posted by: Tom Nicholson on February 12, 2006 at 3:18 PM | PERMALINK

That's ok, I'll take a day of snow over wildfires stripping the vegetation from the hills which results in mudslides when there are 6 continuous weeks of rain followed by an earthquake.

Posted by: SP on February 12, 2006 at 3:20 PM | PERMALINK

Kevin,

It's been extremely warm in D.C. all winter. Nobody who likes spring-ish weather has anything to complain about this year.

Personally, I like snow (and cold), so this is a welcome change. Your bragging attempt has no effect on me. :)

Posted by: Will on February 12, 2006 at 3:23 PM | PERMALINK

Thanks for the update. It really made shoveling the two feet of snow outside seem worthwhile.

Posted by: Otto Man on February 12, 2006 at 3:25 PM | PERMALINK

But...wait a sec...it that the ground shaking?

Or is it the fires? The drought? The smog?

Ah, yes, Paradise.

Posted by: CFShep on February 12, 2006 at 3:29 PM | PERMALINK

I spent half an hour working on digging out "my" car this morning (Cambridge, MA) before my girlfriend pointed out to me that my car was actually the one behind the one I was digging out. Same color and make, so not as stupid as it sounds, especially with a foot of snow covering it, but still pretty stupid.

At least the Eastern Seabord won't fall into the Atlantic anytime soon (I hope).

Posted by: Commenterlein on February 12, 2006 at 3:32 PM | PERMALINK

So the next time you have one of those earthquakes I can point out how still the ground is where I live? Snark begets snark:)

Posted by: blueperiod on February 12, 2006 at 3:34 PM | PERMALINK

Kevin is leaving out a few important things. It's throat-chokingly smoggy, the air smells of diesel fuel and is so dry it causes nose bleeds, and I can't get out of the house because of all the rioting and drive-by shootings. Also, we're way, way, way overdue for a cataclysmic earthquake - you know, the kind that levels everything, then what isn't swalled up in the crevasses is destroyed by fire, then mudslides a little later.

(This message brought to you by Californians against Red Staters moving here and clogging up our freeways)

Posted by: Augustus on February 12, 2006 at 3:35 PM | PERMALINK

It's official. I hate you. :)

Posted by: Wendy on February 12, 2006 at 3:40 PM | PERMALINK

I'm from Seattle, where winters are usually quite mild. For the last several years I've lived in places with cold winters. Actually, I like it.
I think cold weather gives you a mental edge.
If you want to be a more incisive blogger, try regular ice baths. You may be surprised at the results.

Posted by: marky on February 12, 2006 at 3:43 PM | PERMALINK

That endless, monotonous sunshine is one of the main reasons I got my ass out of LA and up to Portland, where at least it rains on me.

Give me clouds over boring stagnant weather anyday.

Posted by: ryan on February 12, 2006 at 3:44 PM | PERMALINK

Heh, how's that Swarzenegger experiment working out for you guys? Enjoy your weather.

Posted by: Stoic on February 12, 2006 at 3:48 PM | PERMALINK

Wow, the butterflys really glisten in the winter sunshine of my South Bay/Harbor Area yard.

I love L.A.

Posted by: NeoDude on February 12, 2006 at 3:49 PM | PERMALINK

I went kayaking two weeks ago here in NC - it was high 60s. Lows 70s around the same day.

Today it's sunny with occasional flurries and absolutely no accumulation. You read that right, sunny. I guess technically it's partly cloudy, but it's pretty funny to be driving along and it's sunny around you and snowing at the same time.

Crazy weather we have in this part of the South. Things were much simpler as a kid in Australia - and I love hot weather!

marky, to me, suggesting that I take a regular ice bath is akin to suggesting that I recreate that scene in Fight Club where "Jack" beats himself to a bloody pulp.

Posted by: Robert S. on February 12, 2006 at 3:50 PM | PERMALINK

Glaciers come and go.

Living on the edge of glaciers,

living on the edge of an ice time

The quickening of the mind in
search of warmth and shelter.

We look to the mountain tops

we know there is cold cold air up there,

Until we touch the sky

and the death of space.

The stars shine brightest

where the air is thinnest.

Is it possible that humans evolved
because of the need to repond to a changing environment?

Are we still fixated on those times when snow and ice ruled our world?

Our deep selves, even if we "come" from warmer climes must surely remember when ice ruled, and humankind hung on by a thread.

Posted by: Tom Nicholson on February 12, 2006 at 3:54 PM | PERMALINK

Some say the end is near.
Some say we'll see armageddon soon.
I certainly hope we will.
I sure could use a vacation from this

Bullshit three ring circus sideshow of
Freaks

Here in this hopeless fucking hole we call LA
The only way to fix it is to flush it all away.
Any fucking time. Any fucking day.
Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay.

Fret for your figure and
Fret for your latte and
Fret for your lawsuit and
Fret for your hairpiece and
Fret for your prozac and
Fret for your pilot and
Fret for your contract and
Fret for your car.

It's a
Bullshit three ring circus sideshow of
Freaks

Here in this hopeless fucking hole we call LA
The only way to fix it is to flush it all away.
Any fucking time. Any fucking day.
Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay.

Some say a comet will fall from the sky.
Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves.
Followed by faultlines that cannot sit still.
Followed by millions of dumbfounded dipshits.

Some say the end is near.
Some say we'll see armageddon soon.
I certainly hope we will cuz
I sure could use a vacation from this

Silly shit, stupid shit...

One great big festering neon distraction,
I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied.

Learn to swim.

Mom's gonna fix it all soon.
Mom's comin' round to put it back the way it ought to be.

Learn to swim.

Fuck L Ron Hubbard and
Fuck all his clones.
Fuck all these gun-toting
Hip gangster wannabes.

Learn to swim.

Fuck retro anything.
Fuck your tattoos.
Fuck all you junkies and
Fuck your short memory.

Learn to swim.

Fuck smiley glad-hands
With hidden agendas.
Fuck these dysfunctional,
Insecure actresses.

Learn to swim.

Cuz I'm praying for rain
And I'm praying for tidal waves
I wanna see the ground give way.
I wanna watch it all go down.
Mom please flush it all away.
I wanna see it go right in and down.
I wanna watch it go right in.
Watch you flush it all away.

Time to bring it down again.
Don't just call me pessimist.
Try and read between the lines.

I can't imagine why you wouldn't
Welcome any change, my friend.

I wanna see it all come down.
put it down.
suck it down.
flush it down.

Posted by: jbou on February 12, 2006 at 3:55 PM | PERMALINK

Here in Italy we had a cold January, but Feb is looking normal. Lots of sunshine and pleasantly chilly in the Po Valley. The highs were 10 degrees C this weekend. Thats 50degF for the centigrade-challenged. Extended sunshine is unusual in the Po Valley, which is hemmed in by the Apennines and the Alps and typically is blanketed by clouds. You have to travel south to Tuscany to get reliable sunshine in winter.

The return of nice weather is counterbalanced by the arrival of Avian Flu in southern Italy. The H5N1 Qinghai strain may travel with migratory birds to the eastern US this spring, so get ready, friends.

Posted by: troglodyte on February 12, 2006 at 4:02 PM | PERMALINK

There's a fairly easy path leading from the Griffith Observatory up to Mount Hollywood (no, that's not where the sign is). Lots of tourists take it, too many in fact. Once on top, you can usually see a line stretching across the sky with blue sky above and the smog below. That's, of course, quite distance from sunny and smog-free Irvine.

We've also had very little rain this year, meaning you'd have to drive at least 30 miles up 2 or to Mt. Baldy to see some snow. Last January there was accumulation at 6000', but I don't think you'd find anything below 7000 or 8000'.

-- PostYourTips

Posted by: TLB on February 12, 2006 at 4:04 PM | PERMALINK

From Portland, OR, best of many worlds - after over 40 days of rain, plenty of snow in the Cascades, we have had several days of blue sky and sun and once again the beautiful sight of Mt Hood in the distance.

However, I have also just watched Beautifier win the first race from Santa Anita, just east of LA, on a fast track and a warm 82 degrees. The wonders of online betting.

Posted by: thethirdPaul on February 12, 2006 at 4:04 PM | PERMALINK

Off Topic...
my local news, not 5 minutes ago, announced that Cheney has accidentally shot someone whilst on a hunting trip in Texas. No details at all.

Posted by: juan on February 12, 2006 at 4:04 PM | PERMALINK

I think that weather shapes character.

President from Orange County, hmmm, ... Richard Nixon!

Another president from California, hmmm, ... Ronald Reagan!

A president from cold, brutish NY, hmmm, ... FDR!

A president from right here on Long Island, hmmm, ... Teddy Roosevelt!

Sorry, we win.

Posted by: alex on February 12, 2006 at 4:08 PM | PERMALINK

They announced it on channel 12, long island news...I cannot find anything anywhere else about it. Anyone heard anything?

Posted by: juan on February 12, 2006 at 4:09 PM | PERMALINK

A foot of light snow once in a while is fun to play in and only a little bit of a problem.

But since my wife, daughter and I have a woodstove, blankets and books we are pretty happy sitting here warm and cozy.

Can't remember the last wildfire we had out here, or mudslide, or major earthquake.

Posted by: Nathan on February 12, 2006 at 4:11 PM | PERMALINK

alex - that reminds me of the theory that people from warmer climes tend to be less ruminitive, they have more time for outward focusing, sensual activities, while folks in colder climes tend to be more intellectual, cerebral - inwardly focused - maybe due to being cooped up and shivering so much of the time!

Any lick of truth to it, I dunno, but I remember reading a whole article about it somewhere.

Posted by: Robert S. on February 12, 2006 at 4:14 PM | PERMALINK

Well, I love cold and snow.

Which is why global warming troubles me. More than talk about flooding coastal areas, ecological collapse and other disasters, I'm going to miss the snow. Especially white christmases.

This past January was absolutely brutal in DC. Every day seemed like it was 65 degrees. I hated every minute of it. And that's the future.

Posted by: ctm on February 12, 2006 at 4:14 PM | PERMALINK

Cheney hunting accident
OK...link:

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/am-cheney0213,0,2521655.story?coll=ny-top-headlines


seems he turned while bird shooting and sprayed his hunting partner w/pellets from his shotgun. Man is supposed to be ok. all i know right now.

Posted by: juan on February 12, 2006 at 4:14 PM | PERMALINK

Wait until the Big One.

Posted by: a on February 12, 2006 at 4:24 PM | PERMALINK

did cheney shoot libby?

Posted by: apeman on February 12, 2006 at 4:28 PM | PERMALINK

"Harry was in the line of fire and got peppered pretty good"

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/02/12/cheney.ap/index.html

presuming the guy is OK, this os going to make great SNL fodder

Posted by: Robert S. on February 12, 2006 at 4:36 PM | PERMALINK

Portland is clear, sunny and about 50. Portland is near 45 degrees north longitude, along with Minneapolis and middle Maine.

Small factoid: A vote of the people was taken in the early days of Portland Oregon whether to name the city Boston or Portland. Must have been some seafaring folks - more from Maine, obviously - from the northeast making a new home out here in the great northwest

Posted by: JimPortlandOR on February 12, 2006 at 4:40 PM | PERMALINK


Where's the anti-Bush angle on this?

Posted by: fred on February 12, 2006 at 4:42 PM | PERMALINK

Cheney shooting.

As the good hands people tried to hand the victim a check, he kept yelling, "I want a trial lawyer". As the ambulance disappeared into the dense fog................

Posted by: thethirdPaul on February 12, 2006 at 4:44 PM | PERMALINK

Re Cheney, maybe they are finally getting into the circular firing squad that our side has gotten so good at.

Posted by: Nathan on February 12, 2006 at 4:50 PM | PERMALINK

I'm going to go out sunbathing right now, and then jump in the ocean take a swim.

Posted by: Jimm on February 12, 2006 at 4:57 PM | PERMALINK

"This message brought to you by Californians against Red Staters moving here and clogging up our freeways"

It's beautiful, warm and sunny here in San Francisco, too. Plus, there's no smog, the air smells like a fresh ocean breeze (because it is a fresh ocean breeze) and the Rite-Aid down the block still sells pseudoephedrine over the counter.

On the other hand, it's San Francisco. You are required to have your accordion in working condition and ready for playing at all times. It's not just a good ideait's the law.

Posted by: s9 on February 12, 2006 at 4:58 PM | PERMALINK

"naming of Portland OR"

Actually a two out three coin toss between Lovejoy from Boston and Pettygrove from Portland, ME - Both have streets named after them in the Northwest district.

Posted by: thethirdPaul on February 12, 2006 at 4:59 PM | PERMALINK

I jut finished sweeping my stoop and the stairs in my brownstone. I'm exhausted. I come in to read my favorite blog and I'm treated to this??!?

Posted by: D. on February 12, 2006 at 5:18 PM | PERMALINK

Kevin, this post proves that you're not above the nastiness you like to pretend is not part of you're schtick. Now that you've revealed the true Kevin, how about doing some good by focusing it on the vile destructive cult of republicanism instead of always courting with your pompous pretentiousness your own little gaggle of cowardly, dullard trolls.

Posted by: pluege on February 12, 2006 at 5:19 PM | PERMALINK

No big deal. A couple/few more GOP administrations and it'll be 77 in PA in February as well.

Posted by: rdw on February 12, 2006 at 5:30 PM | PERMALINK

I hate you, may the CA sun burn the flesh from your bones!
:-P
Why are so many of the good schools in snow belts?

Posted by: Matthew on February 12, 2006 at 5:31 PM | PERMALINK

One of the most beautiful days in San Diego. Fog in the morning, and by clockwork, clear blue sky at 10 am.

Life is good.

Fuck Texas.

Posted by: lib on February 12, 2006 at 5:42 PM | PERMALINK

I try not to be mean but I can't help myself, my inner child is just a bastard.

Snow melts and becomes water, wonder howe long the Colorado lasts.

Posted by: Sushant Harite on February 12, 2006 at 5:49 PM | PERMALINK

Whatever. At least here in Virginia we don't have a Nazi actor as our governor.

Posted by: Hedley Lamarr on February 12, 2006 at 6:17 PM | PERMALINK

Snow 12 miles west of Boston is beautiful. I wouldn't trade it. Plus, we get leaves in fall.
And, my kids might have a snow day tomorrow. Yeah, baby!

Posted by: Janet on February 12, 2006 at 6:18 PM | PERMALINK

Watching the snow fall out of the night sky, passing through the light of a street lamp is pretty wonderful.

Hey Kevin, I've got a snowball here with your name on it. Should I ship it to you? :-P

Posted by: MarkH on February 12, 2006 at 6:24 PM | PERMALINK

Oh yes, it's so horrible here in Southern California where it is now 80 degrees. That's why anybody who gets rich comes here to live-- because it's just so fucking horrible. LOLOL!

Posted by: chris on February 12, 2006 at 6:39 PM | PERMALINK

Hmm.. Love the blog but weather-gloating seems a little joyless. In my neighborhood there were hundreds of kids sledding and stomping through the snow. Afterwards you don't need much more of an excuse to have an Irish coffee. As long as you're not reading this at LaGuardia you're probably enjoying the snow quite well.

Posted by: Preston on February 12, 2006 at 6:49 PM | PERMALINK

The snow is breathtakingly beautiful.

The hushed serenity it brings mutes all the hubbub

The kids have outrageous fun in it.

I wouldn't have missed having shovel-aching joints for anything.

Posted by: gak on February 12, 2006 at 7:07 PM | PERMALINK

Roaming around NYC this afternoon was a joy and wonder. Drifts and piles and eddies, trees frosted and lined with snow, everyone from children to old folks smiling and tromping about. Central Park was full of skiers and sledders and people just out for a walk, but you could also find wide or secluded areas where no one had been, full of undulating unbroken snow to roll around in, fling at each other, or just admire. Summer weather will be nice when it comes around again, but I wouldn't give this up for the world.

Posted by: Steve on February 12, 2006 at 7:27 PM | PERMALINK

Meh. The snow in Northeast will quickly melt, it'll probably rain or the temperature will go above freezing in short order. The rest of you guys are wimps. Just like me during humid summers. :)

Posted by: Soviet Canuckastani on February 12, 2006 at 8:13 PM | PERMALINK

...snow...so much [cough] snow...must keep d-digging, got to r-reach surface before...before...air...r-runs...runnnnsssss....

Posted by: Ordinary Connecticutican on February 12, 2006 at 8:13 PM | PERMALINK

Eighty-five degrees? That's Beaner weather. Oh by the way, good luck when the inevitable 8.5 earthquake strikes.

Posted by: Pechorin on February 12, 2006 at 8:18 PM | PERMALINK

Snow don't bother me. After digging out, drank some beer, then went cross country skiing. Then drank some whiskey. Then had some wine. Laundry is done, TV is being watched. I don't see the problem?

Posted by: wkmaier on February 12, 2006 at 9:00 PM | PERMALINK

Kevin Drum wrote:

it's beautiful, clear, sunny, and 77 degrees here in Southern California right now.

Ah, but there's the rub; you actually have to be in California to enjoy it...the horror...

...shudder...

BTW; thanks to jbou for the Tool lyrics.

Posted by: grape_crush on February 12, 2006 at 10:14 PM | PERMALINK


Pretty funny takedown of Kevin's lame-ass gloat attempt here. So-cal has some nice stuff to look at but NO WAY would I live there. The boring weather being only one reason. I'm not in the northeast but I very much enjoyed the light snow we had here today. It's very pleasant, even a visitor from the tropics was delighted to experience it.

Posted by: loser on February 12, 2006 at 10:42 PM | PERMALINK

The grass is always greener.....

The weekend here in Redmond (Wa) was beautiful (sun, finally-no windstorms, somewhat warm). Tomorrow this will all be replaced with a freezing snap.

Everyone's depictions upthread of their winter wonderlands bring a smile and a bit of envy for the quiet beauty of a snowy Sunday.

Of course, that is all ruined by the thought of a snowy commute Monday morning. Don't laugh unless you have driven in snow in the Seattle area. The snow is wet and slippery. All we have are hills and bridges. Yeah, driving in snow is easy when the roads are straight as an arrow and flat as a pancake, and the stuff is powder dry.

At any rate, tomorrow it looks like the worst of it will be black ice on the bridges in the morning. Not so bad if one takes it easy.

Hope you in the east are safe, warm, and dry for the duration of the storm. FWIW, the pix look beautiful so far.

Posted by: jcricket on February 12, 2006 at 10:51 PM | PERMALINK

As a rule, man's a fool
when its hot, he wants it cool
when its cool, he wants it hot
always wanting what its not...

Posted by: justmy2 on February 12, 2006 at 11:08 PM | PERMALINK

"once again the beautiful sight of Mt Hood in the distance."

Yeah, I used to get that feeling about Mt. Rainier in Seattle until I heard about its previous "lahars," which made it all the way down to the site of the present day Elliot Bay Bookstore on Main Street.

I'll take the snow here in Boston any day.

Posted by: manowar on February 12, 2006 at 11:46 PM | PERMALINK

LOL, eat shit and bark at the moon!

Posted by: Barb in NY on February 13, 2006 at 12:09 AM | PERMALINK

Yeah. That fucking global warming. Funny how all that ice and shit is falling from the warmer skies.

Posted by: Mca on February 13, 2006 at 12:43 AM | PERMALINK

Heh, heh, you warm-staters think you have something over us moderate-staters, but you only do if we think you do and we don't.

He who isn't thrilled by the beauty of the changing seasons is not a whole person. She who is not inspired by the awesome majesty of winter is missing a chromosome. He who must move to a warm climate because his toes are cold is a wimp. Put on some warm socks and enjoy the transient loveliness of the feathery white flakes floating gently to the earth.

Actually, here in DC the weather isn't quite cold enough. I think the perfect weather is northern PA. Hot summers, cold winters is my recipe for happiness.

Posted by: James of DC on February 13, 2006 at 12:48 AM | PERMALINK

James -- We are happy for you that you have found your nirvana. Have a good 'rest of the weekend', friend.

...and now....to watch the Olympic wrap up! See y'all sometime soon!!!


Posted by: jcricket on February 13, 2006 at 1:07 AM | PERMALINK

Can you say "global warming?"

I thought you could.

It's too warm in Southern California. We may not have had snow, but when I was growing up here, we did have seasons.

Posted by: dilemmanade on February 13, 2006 at 1:27 AM | PERMALINK

Well, we here in the SF Bay Area don't have it nearly so good as Kevin in OC. I don't think it got above 73 today. And the sun actually disappeared behind the clouds a couple of times. And yesterday, playing golf, I had to wear a windbreaker when I first teed off. Legs were cold, too, for the first few holes, and I actually wondered if I should have worn long pants. Friday was better: shorts and shirtsleeves the whole day on the course.

I lived a lot of years in various cold weather areas. What I miss most is chipping ice a half-inch thick off all of the glass surfaces on the car.

Posted by: Nixon Did It on February 13, 2006 at 1:41 AM | PERMALINK

too warm in Southern California. We may not have had snow, but when I was growing up here, we did have seasons.

Posted by: dilemmanade on February 13, 2006 at 1:27 AM | PERMALINK

Yeah. Funny about all that snow on the East though. Its gotta be global warming though, 'cso Bush didn't sign Kyoto.

Posted by: McA@y.com on February 13, 2006 at 2:15 AM | PERMALINK

Yeah. That fucking global warming. Funny how all that ice and shit is falling from the warmer skies.

Jesus doesn't like it when you swear, when you lie, and when you take pains to be an idiot, and he really doesn't like it when you do all three at once.

We've patiently tried to explain to you the dynamics of a warming globe over and over.

Obviously you're neither intelligent enough nor in control of your passions to grasp the concepts involved.

You've gotten pretty out of control, and some of us are concerned about your spiritual welfare. You should seriously consider putting yourself on the short path, pursuing a monastic life and taking a vow of silence.

Eternity's too important to risk it.

Posted by: trex on February 13, 2006 at 2:17 AM | PERMALINK

P.S. Have you been drinking? Your posts are particularly angry and incoherent.

Posted by: trex on February 13, 2006 at 2:20 AM | PERMALINK

hey...I'm in Buffalo. Snow? What's snow?? We've barely had any this year LOL

I love big snows here......go to the store and stock up, rent a couple of movies at Blockbuster, buy a few extra magazines, gas up the 4x4, order a couple of pizzas...one for now and one for later, as long as the power stays on....Internet, TV, hot water, and plenty to do...I can ride out a blizzard for days :D

Last time I checked, if you are properly prepared, blizzards do not destroy a community....give me a blizzard over a hurricane any day

Posted by: Robert Balistreri on February 13, 2006 at 3:57 AM | PERMALINK

I just love it when I see idiots attempting to refute Global Warming theory by pointing to anomalous low temperatures in their local microclimates.

Posted by: s9 on February 13, 2006 at 4:18 AM | PERMALINK

The best line I ever heard about California weather:
In California. Mother Nature has two states:on and off.
Off is endless days of halycon blue warm balmy clime
On? Torrential rain, mudslides, earthquakes...

I leave in New England (or close eough, NY). The best line about its weather:
If Columbus had landed in California, New England would still be unsettled.

Posted by: Stewart Dean on February 13, 2006 at 4:30 AM | PERMALINK

Given your international audience Kevin, you might consider to give the temperature in international measurements. I believe 77 degrees Fahrenheit is about 25 degrees Celsius, which actually what the kitchen thermometer is showing now and it is 9.26PM. Still these matters are relative and 25 degrees C is a nice temperature.

Posted by: wmmbb on February 13, 2006 at 5:37 AM | PERMALINK

Gotta say this for LA & SF - pretty much every where else in the world it's the poor who live in the most dangerous places. NOLA, anyone?

In LA & SF the rich live in the canyons and clinging to unstable hillside terraces.

I lived in LA briefly during childhood and I used to marvel at the houses cantilevered out into nothingness. My Dad could never explain to my satisfaction why exactly people were willing to risk death for the sake of a view. Nor why you could not reach 'publicly owned beaches' for all the private houses...

We were there for the Bellaire fire and a huge mudslide in Burbank, too.

The Northridge quake may have been one the few natural disasters in which the wealthy bore the brunt of the damage...well...and the Marina District because it's such a really, really good idea to build on rubble from the '06 quake which had been pushed out into the Bay.

Posted by: CFShep on February 13, 2006 at 8:28 AM | PERMALINK

Kevin,

Dear god. You're one of 'those' people?

Sincerely,

theperegrine

Posted by: theperegrine on February 13, 2006 at 10:00 AM | PERMALINK

It's cold here in Oklahoma. Please send us rain

Posted by: sticky on February 13, 2006 at 10:06 AM | PERMALINK

We've patiently tried to explain to you the dynamics of a warming globe over and over.

Obviously you're neither intelligent enough nor in control of your passions to grasp the concepts involved.

Posted by: trex on February 13, 2006 at 2:17 AM | PERMALINK

Yup. Record snowfall in the North East but I'm too dumb to see how it fits in with global warming.

Emperor has no clothes but liberals have to be smart people, so he must have clothes.


Posted by: McA on February 13, 2006 at 10:07 AM | PERMALINK

This kind of gratuitous cruelty does not become you.

Signed,

Frozen in Pittsburgh

Posted by: zak822 on February 13, 2006 at 10:08 AM | PERMALINK

Bah. Cold weather builds character.

Posted by: Peter on February 13, 2006 at 10:43 AM | PERMALINK

I live in the Bay Area now but used to live out east. I know how magical and festive this kind of snowstorm is and I am very jealous!

Posted by: karin on February 13, 2006 at 10:47 AM | PERMALINK

I hate your good weather bigotry with the intensity of 1,000 Suns!

Why don't you fly up to Logan and say it to our faces.

Posted by: Brian on February 13, 2006 at 11:48 AM | PERMALINK

Yup. Record snowfall in the North East but I'm too dumb to see how it fits in with global warming.

The first step to overcoming a problem is admitting, I congratulate you for really getting in there and facing your own shortcomings with courage.

Modeling for a warming climate suggests that more extreme storms may arise from increased activity in the hydrologic cycle; an upward expansion of the troposphere bringing very warm and very cold air into violent contact through downdrafts; and in the a case of winter storms in the continental United States, atypical collisions of cold air masses moving south from Canada with very warm, saturated air from the South creating blizzards.

But why am I even bothering to write this? You're drunk, or dense, or both.

Emperor has no clothes but liberals have to be smart people, so he must have clothes.

There are social and fiscal conservatives who recognize the validity of the science behind GCC, so your accusation doesn't even make any sense. Take reactionary John Howard, for instance, who begrudgingly accepts the science (which further makes you look like an idiot). And although he's been muzzling scientists to try and downplay the potential consequences of warming his administration has been pouring millions into fighting it.

In the world of big business, oilmen who are in the position to know about this issue -- having comissioned their own studies with their own scientists -- are not only believers but some of the louder voices urging action on this problem. The Chief executive of BP and the chairman of the Royal Dutch Shell group both are strongly urging governments and businesses to take steps to curb warming and avoid ecological disaster.

Even the Pentagon has concluded catastrophic changes in world climate are likely and is preparing for wars resulting from climatic chaos.

And their study states that the threat to the world is "greater than terrorism."

Schooled yet?

I thought so.

Just out of curiosity: Rice wine? Jack Daniels? Budweiser???

Try and remember to drink in moderation.

Posted by: trex on February 13, 2006 at 11:51 AM | PERMALINK

You know what the great thing about the current trend towards global warming is?

We here in the US will always have the technology to overcome virtually anything that can happen. Oh, it may take a few years to recover some part of the country that gets fried, flattened, or drowned but we can always fix it and come out better for the challenge. Will it suck whilst we are trying to overcome whatever? Sure it will, but, we will be okay.

The really cool part (pardon the pun) is all of those scumbags who are butchering people over a couple of stupid cartoons are going to get fried to a crisp. Let them sit on their oil on top of their sand dunes. We'll just turn our extra food into fuel for our cars and let them all starve and die of thirst.

We will have enough food (we will still grow way more than we need), enough water (what do you think storms are dropping from the sky - cats?), and enough fuel (we have enough coal to convert to fuel for us to run for 150 years at the current rate and that doesn't even count ethanol, oil in Canada and Alaska, all of the solar and wind power, nuclear power, and for gods sake we have huge geothermal resources all over the west that aren't being used).

We have the ability and know-how to survive anything that this world throws at us that is less than Yellowstone Park exploding, a comet hitting the planet, or the sun burning out. Anything else we can snap at our fingers at.

You liberals worry too much about unimportant crap.

Posted by: Wayne on February 13, 2006 at 3:21 PM | PERMALINK

Quick note to all my friends on the West Coast: It's beautiful, crisp and clean here in upstate NY. Cozying up by the fire listening to tunes. Just thought you'd like to know.

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