New Jersey's low ranking is quite a surprise.

be interesting to see this graphed vs abortion rates.

I see Cali, getting one step closer to becoming an independant nation. Oops, probably should see a state break down before getting puffed up. I'm sure the Inland Empire would restrict access more then the liberal coastal crowd. Come on San Andrea fault.

yet another reason that I love NY

Gee South Dakota at number 44 and with a shiny new anti abortion law to boot. Isn't SD already a sparely populated state?

Oh great, this will give the AL Lege a reason to go into special session

Ah, Kevin.

I suppose you think every state should jack up it's taxes so that every little girl over the age of 2 can get the full do it yourself contraception kit.

Where does the liberal madness end?

Please, help me. I'm dying and I want to live! Even if my master rapes a 14-year old, I have the right to live!

Why is Alaska a surprise? It is a fairly libertarian state. It has a fundy contingent, but the is more of a live-and-let-live state on the whole.

Find a way to keep Family Planning money to not go to brain sucking of third trimester babies and
people might give a shit.

Indiana is just a piece of Mississippi and Alabama that broke off and drifted north. Obesity, STD's, illiteracy, percentage of college graduates fleeing the state for good, percentage of population living in a trailer park, teen pregnancy, tobacco use, you name it we're sure to rank close to the top (or bottom) of all the negative categories you can rattle off. Just today the local news informed us we have one of the highest rates of pregnant women that smoke. It really is much like a third world country.

Ah, I see my home state of North Dakota came in 2nd to last. Makes sense, I didn't learn what a clitoris was until Sophomore year of college and I had to cross over to Minnesota to get that information. I do remember once talking about puberty in health class in high school but I it seemed the whole thing was about more body hair.

Hey, did you guys know that girls don't pee out of their buts? Not if you're from ND. I should go find a Nebraska guy so I can tell him what's up.

Thanks for all the liberal madness Kevin.

Wyoming ranked 7th while Colorado ranks 40th?
Oh. My. God. We have work to do, kiddos.
--
HRlaughed

I love trolls when talking about birth control. They sound more absurd than usual.

May liberal madness never end.

Welcome to Ohio, where you'll have that unwanted pregnancy and then watch the kid never be able to land a job. I hate to see where the Buckeye State will rank in crime rates come thirty years from now.

KJ --

Are you joking? I learned what a clitoris was and what it was for from a Catholic priest when I was in high school. No, he wasn't a molester, he'd just counseled too many married couples who'd fallen apart due to extreme sexual ignorance. (This was in the early 60's.)

Which is why I'm a little dubious about a study that focuses on "state" efforts; may be little short on recognizing (for instance) the LDS, who in my experience, promote contraception with equal vigor to what they oppose abortion.

I'm killing my host! I'm killing my mother! I deserve to live more than that bi-yotch! Let her die but rescue me! Who cares about the bi-yotch anyway?!!!

Just one of millions. All of us doomed to the sure death of Egbert's bed sheets.

We were never given a chance.

Keep it up. This is how liberals treat differences of opinion. You like to talk a big game about tolerance, but when a regular person says something that doesn't fall in line with your wack job philosophy, you start in with the snarky comments.

Ok, whatever.

Of course, I am not a regular person being morally superior and my condemnation of liberals is righteous. Name-calling is my game without directly calling you a wack job. Oops! I made a pun.

wack job

Wack job?

Alas, it was such that doomed us.

I vote that we should always have three parody posts to every one real idiot post. That seems like a great ratio to me. For one thing, my blood pressure will be hella a lot lower.

I didn't learn what a clitoris was until Sophomore year of college and I had to cross over to Minnesota to get that information.

That must be some kind of information booth. "You wanna find out about the clitoris, you betcha?"

I have bigger testicles that a gnat which makes me more your superior. Listen to me! I know what's best for you. Women are incubators and the depository of male entitlement. They must be made to obey. Oppress the uppity woman who defies her male superiors.

Ah, Kevin.

I suppose you think every state should jack up it's taxes so that every little girl over the age of 2 can get the full do it yourself contraception kit.

Where does the liberal madness end?

I'm sorry, but we can't address the content of this post until you correct the grammar.

deserve to live more than that bi-yotch! Let her die but rescue me!

Posted by: McA fetus on March 1, 2006 at 12:11 AM | PERMALINK

So, every abortion saves a life?
Childbirth must be more dangerous over there.

Typical thin skinned conservative, Egbert. Still sore about mom sucking your brains out in the last trimester? Dumb bitch. Doesn't EVERYONE know conservatives don't need brains to live?

So, every abortion saves a life?
Childbirth must be more dangerous over there.
Posted by: Mca

childbirth carries a higher mortality for the woman than does abortion ... not to feed these dimwitted dipshit trolls, but just throwing it out there.

higher mortality for the woman than does abortion ... not to feed these dimwitted dipshit trolls, but just throwing it out there.

Posted by: Nads on March 1, 2006 at 2:44 AM | PERMALINK

Abortion has pretty high mortality for the fetus though. Not 100%. Sometimes you get survivors which is strange because they aren't really people but do all that walking and talking stuff.

How high is the mortality of childbirth?
To justify sucking the brains out of a child it must be pretty high.

you're confusing fetuses with children.

fetuses with children.

Posted by: Nads on March 1, 2006 at 4:28 AM | PERMALINK

At 8 months, with the body out of the woman.
I think children is pretty apt.

There used to be a middle-eastern god who had a metal statue with shelves. They's put a baby in then heat the whole thing slowly. Priests played music to cover up the cries.

After all, if you saw or heard it - you won't be able to deceive yourself that this was right.

That's what leaving the head in the womb seems to do.

"I suppose you think every state should jack up it's taxes so that every little girl over the age of 2 can get the full do it yourself contraception kit"

No, that's not what anyone's saying. The idea is to make sure that both knowledge of contraception and contraception itself is eaily available to women. Oddly, one of the side effects would be a drop in the abortion rate. What a horrible thing!

Sorry about the [pointless] serious response - couldn't think of anything funny . . .

SD's stats and anti-abortion attempts does make one wonder if they're trying to forcibly repopulate the state.

new rule McAsshole is limited to one unenlightened ignorant opinion and or smarmy subchimplike response per week,this would not be an effor to stymie its free speech but just the sort of action any sane4 group of people would take when a blithering idiot bloviates constantly.Oops we americans must not be sane we allow Rush and Coulter.

"After all, if you saw or heard it - you won't be able to deceive yourself that this was right."

Women dying -pointlessly, painfully - of back-alley abortions? That's true, and only our short cultural memory explains why we are heading back to those days.

"That's what leaving the head in the womb seems to do."

Oh, wait, you're talking (analogously) about rare, desperate-measure late term abortions. Never mind. I am sure people will be shocked - shocked - when the news starts reporting on coathanger deaths. That's what leaving the head in the sand seems to do.

* * *

South Dakota's position (for example) - as well as the renewed willingness of the wackjobs to push birth-control bans - shows how appropriate (if not effective) the choice of 'choice' and 'control (over their own bodies)' rhetoric has been. It's *all* been about women's choice and control over their own bodies. The choice to say no to sex (laws against marital rape are younger than most (or all?) Gen-Xers; sexual harrassment policies. Control over fertility, both in terms of knowledge and technology - after all, remember in the US, both were feverishly repressed well into the 20th Century (google Margaret Sanger, Comstock laws). We've forgotten the war against (and for) birth control, and you know what they say about those who forget history . . . The choice to become educated, to have a career (as opposed to working out of economic necessity, which has always been the case), which go hand in hand with the idea that women can be anything else beyond child-bearers.

We are just marching backwards. It might help to point out - if the idea of women as valuable human beings in their own right, rather than handmaids and incubators for truly valuable human beings (ie, men and fetuses) doesn't work - that women being able to make choices and having control over their own bodies is good for families and children: -
Margaret Sanger: "

We want mothers to be fit. We want them to conceive in joy and gladness. We want them to carry their babies during the nine months in a sound and healthy body and with a happy, joyous, hopeful mind. . . . the couple who can take care of two children and bring them up decently in health and comfort, give them an education and start them fairly in life, do more for their country and for mankind than the couple who recklessly reproduce ten or twelve children, some of them to die in infancy, others to survive but to enter the mill or factory at an early age, and all to sink to that level of degradation where charity, either state or private, is necessary to keep them alive."

I am amazed that so many of you choose to use this forum as a place to snipe at each other. You must all be men.
As a nurse new to Ohio I am amazed at the rate of 15 yr old girls having their 2nd baby. These babies have no chance at a decent life and will be draining your federal dollars at an alarming rate. Getting birth control in this RED state is next to impossible unless their mothers take them in, would your teenage daughter ask you to get them birth control?

Wow...my state of residence (Alabama) is ranked 4th? REALLY? And our public funding score is higher than both California's and New York's? REALLY???

We are talking about the same Alabama, right? The one where I was told by my high school science teacher that evolution is "just a theory" and therefore doesn't even need to be glossed over in a science class? The one where administrators in my school wanted to implement a sex ed class (a good idea, given the ungodly high rate of pregnancies and STDs in the high school population), but the community forbade it on "moral" grounds?

Color me surprised.

It is interesting the way some deep red or blue states seem to have rankings the opposite of what'd you'd think. Here's a theory: Good old fashioned hypocrisy. You have some states that are all liberal on the surface, but have a very old and powerful puritan streak that makes them speak liberal and act conservative. At the same time, you have states that are big on talking tough, but maybe have a more free-wheeling personal side. Perhaps this explains why divorce rates tend to be higher in some Republican states and lower in some Dem ones. Tis the inner hedonist or puritian, as the case may be, showing through in the statistics.

"When effective contraceptive "USE" rises, abortion rates go down."

No Kidding....really?
Wow...Is that a direct causal connection, or just a statistical correlation?

Gee, Texas is 45th. What a shocker. Not only do they try to limit access to contraception here, but they also try to limit any and all sex education, which leads to stories like this http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/030106dnccostdteens.1231518a.html (Ignorance blamed for local rise in teen STDs).

On the plus side, I believe goat-f**king is still approved.

I wonder if there isn't a kind of "small-state" effect in the table. If a state spends any kind of money at all, it may look better in per capita terms than a larger state that actually provides better services.

If my conjecture is true, Texas looks even worse ...

Why do conservatives hate fetuses?

Why do they want more abortions?

Because for conservative pro-lifers it's never been about the sanctity of life, but the control of people through control of sex, especially the control of women.

David Mastio,

Oregon qualifies as a blue state - By the majority voting for Gore and Kerry, it is assumed to be liberal. The cities of Portland and Eugene are liberal, but the majority of the suburbs and counties are Red.
The Democrats control the State Senate. However, the Republicans control the House.
Therefore, it is very difficult to pass increases in education or even sex education funding.
Oregon ranks 8th on this report - It is the Democratic leaders who have worked hard to achieve this level.
We also have a "Democratic" Governor - He straddles many issues. However, I do give him credit for one thing. He was in the Marines and he has personally attended every funeral for the members of the Oregon National Guard who have been killed in action in the Middle East. I suppose another former Guv never has heard of that practice.

Kentucky ranks 81st out of 50. Interesting.

"As a nurse new to Ohio I am amazed at the rate of 15 yr old girls having their 2nd baby. These babies have no chance at a decent life and will be draining your federal dollars at an alarming rate. Getting birth control in this RED state is next to impossible unless their mothers take them in, would your teenage daughter ask you to get them birth control?"

Just wanted to echo the voice of reason here. Thank you for posting this, Kevin.

I'm not that surprised about Alabama. I grew up there, and birth control was free and easy to get at the county health department.

And thank you, too, Ohio Nurse.

how about those pharmacists that are allowed to refuse to fill a prescription for oral birth control because it's against THEIR religion??? i actually had this happen to me and had to go to another pharmacy to get it filled. now, i take bcp's as a treatment for a disease, not for birth control, but that didn't matter. but it's also secondarily for birth control because i know that with my health issues i would be less than a great mother. not going to inflict that on some poor child. but i do have a husband, and not having sex is out of the question, so obviously i need some form of birth control. and if conservatives don't want me having an abortion and still want the "man of the house to get some", then birth control needs to be available.

EM,

Sex without the possibility of procreation is a sin against God according to conservatives, so I'm sure they would support the pharmacist in your case.

And men, but not women, are allowed to dally outside the marriage to "get some", because it is the nature of men to need sex, but not women, also according to conservatives.

So, best of luck, then, if you live in a red state.

I didn't learn what a clitoris was until Sophomore year of college and I had to cross over to Minnesota to get that information.

I recall the pamphlet at the Welcome Center - Welcome to Minnesota - here is a state map, and here is, ummm, another map you might find useful.

We do have reciprocity with North Dakota. I didn't learn about beastiality until I crossed over to North Dakato.

Different strokes, I guess, but personally I prefer to live in Minnesota.

Advocate for God, Amen.

Because for conservative pro-lifers it's never been about the sanctity of life, but the control of people through control of sex, especially the control of women.

Well, out of fairness, if you were ugly with a little dick wouldn't you want to control women too? It's not like you could get lucky using your own resources.

EM, I cannot imagine your frustration.

Where does this guy get off telling you how to worship God? He's your pharmacist, not your priest.

We really have to mobilize against this. This is total bullshit.

theorajones, The pharmacist has actually moved so I no longer have to deal with him and can get my Rx filled at that pharmacy again. But yeah, total nightmare. This goes on all over the country and a couple lawsuits have popped up over it, and apparently the pharmacists are winning thus far. Unfreakingbelievable.

This email just came through in my inbox, and I thought you might be interested:

Six months have past since Dr. Susan Wood resigned from a top position at the Food and Drug Administration and still the FDA refuses to approve over-the-counter (OTC) access to Plan B emergency contraception.

Please feel free to forward this widely.

Click on the cartoon to learn more. If you are unable receive html email, please visit www.sciencebeforepolitics.com to view the cartoon.

There used to be a middle-eastern god who had a metal statue with shelves. They's put a baby in then heat the whole thing slowly. Priests played music to cover up the cries.

Now, instead of a God, you've got a GWB, instead of a statue, there's a whole a frigging country, and instead of priests, we have nattering sycophants talking about "Freedom on the march" to cover the sounds of death. But, yeah, same effect on a much larger scale.

What's your point?

I have told this story before: my step sister, law degree Pepperdine - 2004 and rabid Bush Republican, was denied birth control pills for a prescription intended to alleviate other problems in Mesa, AZ, 2005. She still remains a Bush whore, which is not surprising, since she is a family member of S. California's conservative elites (masters accounting, USC).

I am saddened to see the state of my birth last on the list. NE's motto, home to the good life, will be banned from my speech.

Entrepreuners, this is an excellent opportunity to ship these products from outside the US.

I wonder if this (contraceptive availability) is one of those issues that is so wildly popular that its policy status doesn't track very well with broader social trends as one might expect, but instead is determined by lower level effectiveness of hard core pro- or anti-contraception groups who's distribution is a lot more random.

"lower level" = "local level"

Glad I got my vasectomy while I had the chance. I knew this condom/pill crap was not sustainable in the long run.

There used to be a middle-eastern god who had a metal statue with shelves. They's put a baby in then heat the whole thing slowly. Priests played music to cover up the cries.

There is a story of Martin Luther's mother putting her new born babies on the open window sill to expose them to the elements to determine if they were strong enough to survive. That is the kind of behavior one should expect when women do not have reproductive control over their own bodies.

Yep, there's something wrong with that report when New Jersey is at the bottom. When you go to the Web site for the full report, you get "This resource is being revised, please check back later. We apologize for the inconvenience." Stay tuned ...

As a nurse new to Ohio I am amazed at the rate of 15 yr old girls having their 2nd baby. These babies have no chance at a decent life and will be draining your federal dollars at an alarming rate. Getting birth control in this RED state is next to impossible unless their mothers take them in, would your teenage daughter ask you to get them birth control?
Posted by: An Ohio nurse on March 1, 2006 at 8:59 AM | PERMALINK

are you kidding? Tomorrow's cheap labor! We'll be stealing those manufacturing jobs back from China is one mere generation!

Clearly, Alaska has it figured out. A score of 69 is a great strategy for pregnancy prevention.

I'd like to know their methodology. Many of the rankings just don't make much sense to me.

So even though California is in first place, they get a D for a grade. Great.

"That is the kind of behavior one should expect when women do not have reproductive control over their own bodies."

And in general, globally&historically speaking, actual infanticide - or even the slow version ( neglect of babies that don't seem to be thriving) is a rational strategy (however horrible) when resources are very limited. We can all starve together or a few of us can survive - sort of thing. And of course, giving women reproductive control over their own bodies seems to help reduce poverty . . .

And they call us babykillers?

Oh, but right - provide access to birth control is - as one of the crackbrains in the article said - encouraging sex outside of marriage . . .

And why do conservachristian nutjobs hate women with endo?

As that rare bird known as an anti-abortion liberal (yes, we do exist!), it fascinates me to see that the red/blue divide doesn't work here (can you think of any other public health survey where Mississippi rates higher than Rhode Island?). If you're truly against abortion, why shouldn't you champion contraception and birth control to prevent unwanted pregnancies? Have never understood the logic of that? (Then again, I've never understood people who call themselves "pro-life" and wholeheartedly support capital punishment.)

As that rare bird known as an anti-abortion liberal (yes, we do exist!), it fascinates me to see that the red/blue divide doesn't work here (can you think of any other public health survey where Mississippi rates higher than Rhode Island?). If you're truly against abortion, why shouldn't you champion contraception and birth control to prevent unwanted pregnancies?

Rather easily, actually. Understanding it really only requires that a person can be "truly against abortion" without abortion being the only thing they are truly against.

What is interesting, and should be discussed by people making decisions, is the per capita costs vs. availability score.

If, say, California is spending twice the amount per capita and still the goodies are less available (or equally available) than another state somebody probably ought to get fired.

Or is 'economies of scale' a factor? Even so...

just speculatin'

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