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March 4, 2006
By: Kevin Drum

IF DRUDGE CAN DO IT, SO CAN I....Over at Preemptive Karma, Carla sez:

A DC political operative has told me that Brent Wilkes, one of the individuals charged with bribing Republican Congressman Randy "Duke" Cunningham, has struck a deal with prosecutors to testify.

Wilkes will implicate four more Republicans for possible criminal activity: Richard Pombo, John Doolittle, Duncan Hunter, and Jerry Lewis.

Is this true? Who knows. I wouldn't bet the ranch on it or anything. But it's a weekend, I need some good news, and this would be some very satisfactory news indeed. So let's all clap our hands and hope it's true, OK?

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We don't have to clap our hands. My God, is there a culture more top-to-bottom corrupt than this current bunch?

I look forward to visiting the guiding lights of the GOP in jail.

Posted by: craigie on March 4, 2006 at 12:16 PM | PERMALINK

Jerry Lewis deserves to go down, that French-loving nutball.

Soon, it will all be clear to you that it was the Clenis' attitude of "if it feels good, do it" that is the cause of all this. Stop being in denial!

Posted by: Freedom Phukher on March 4, 2006 at 12:22 PM | PERMALINK

You know, if we had cameras in all our Representative's and Senator's offices, and had all their phones tapped, so that all of their conversations were monitored... then there would be no more corruption!

I, for one, am willing to give up a little more privacy for them in exchange for a little more security for me.

Let's roll!

Posted by: craigie on March 4, 2006 at 12:26 PM | PERMALINK

The worser (excuse my semantics) guys and gals are so-called "administrating" our country.

The ones who inacted obscene tax-cuts for the least deserving Americans (the super rich who don't seem to realize how poor most of us are).

The ones who believe defense/security related industries are the only ones that deserve tax payers' funds to maintain the single most bloated war machine in history.

The ones who privatize everything at the expense of decent government at all levels.

The ones who remind us that ..

"you don't need to worry about security"

"' bring 'em on!"

I really don't care how many low life repugnacans sheepishly admit what I've known all along; we have a government for the rich and nothing but the rich so help us god.

What I want is for Bush/Cheney to fade into history. They've had their chance. They've shown their true colors. Just exactly what GOOD have they actually done for the planet...anywhere?

Our nation is hungry for leadership right now, we do not need to become even more divided between haves and have nots, straights and gays, muslims and christians, pedestrians and motorists, etc.


Posted by: Tom Nicholson on March 4, 2006 at 12:30 PM | PERMALINK

what is it with california republicans? they can't line their pockets legally?

Posted by: mudwall jackson on March 4, 2006 at 12:30 PM | PERMALINK

Republican Culture of Corruption.
Democratic Culture of "thank you sir, may I have another?"

Posted by: Mornington Nomic on March 4, 2006 at 12:34 PM | PERMALINK

what is it with california republicans? they can't line their pockets legally?

Hey, do you have any idea how much it costs to get a house with a garage big enough for both Hummers?

Not that you would actually park your cars in your garage - that's for losers.

Posted by: craigie on March 4, 2006 at 12:35 PM | PERMALINK

I want to see Pombo get booted out of the House. He's been trying to give away our national parks and forests.

Posted by: Quiddity on March 4, 2006 at 12:36 PM | PERMALINK

Actually, I've been very disappointed in TheSmokingGun.com lately, they've totally dropped the ball on Cunningham. Where's the rap sheet? The mug shots?

Posted by: osama_been_forgotten on March 4, 2006 at 12:37 PM | PERMALINK

"what is it with california republicans? they can't line their pockets legally?"

Where's the fun in that?

Posted by: coldhotel on March 4, 2006 at 12:47 PM | PERMALINK

All four of these partisan hacks found it necessary to vote with Bush against justice for California during the Enron-engineered enery rape. Sinking slowly and publicly into shame and unemployment and prison as the Ken Lay trial proceeds would be sweet justice indeed.

Posted by: Common Sense on March 4, 2006 at 12:49 PM | PERMALINK

Well this would take Duncan out of the "Dubai over my cold dead hands" upcoming fight.

Posted by: me on March 4, 2006 at 1:11 PM | PERMALINK

What's with Duncan Hunter's 'I would have walked from DC if necessary to be at Duke's conviction by the judge'? Is it genuine love for a fellow vetaran or a fear of somone spilling some beans?

Posted by: lib on March 4, 2006 at 1:17 PM | PERMALINK

It would be great to see Pombo go, but I thought the reps closest to the Cunningham scandal were supposed to be Virgil Goode and Katherine Harris.

Posted by: KCinDC on March 4, 2006 at 1:17 PM | PERMALINK

If we could get rid of Duncan Hunter, oh, but to dream!

Let's concentrate some that energy on Darrell Issa, who paid to have our democratically-elected (ineffective, logistically and legally constrained) governor Davis recalled and replaced with an MORE ineffective, logistically and legally constrained Republican.

Posted by: Al K. Duh! on March 4, 2006 at 1:18 PM | PERMALINK

Please, please, please be Duncan Hunter.

He'll enjoy working in the kitchen.

Posted by: lgs on March 4, 2006 at 1:25 PM | PERMALINK

Cindy Adams in the NY Post reported that TWELVE Republicans were going down. She may be a gossip column, but her reports on Abramoff taking down Livingston in 1998 seemed right on. Duke + these 4,plus Goode, Harris, Ney leaves 4 more.

Posted by: Paul on March 4, 2006 at 1:30 PM | PERMALINK

well, if we're going that route, this is from cindy adams' column of feb 27. she is most certainly a more reliable source than drudge as she's got connections to the real federal law enforcement types -- the southern district of ny.

From Cindy Adams at Pagesix.com:

"PAY attention. Pay large attention. Could be more, but for today the number is a dozen. At least a dozen members of Congress, primarily of the party currently in power, are about to be indicted. Influence peddling. One dozen."

Posted by: linda on March 4, 2006 at 1:41 PM | PERMALINK

Lord, please let it be true. Pombo and Doolittle - gone in the same sad scandal? I love it.

Posted by: z adura on March 4, 2006 at 1:43 PM | PERMALINK

It is harder to find good qualities in a Republican these days, except for the occasional lawyer shooting.

Posted by: Matt on March 4, 2006 at 1:44 PM | PERMALINK

But, if the republicans are corrupt, and they run the government, does that make the government corrupt?

Is there something in the bottled water the repubs drink?

Posted by: TomStewart on March 4, 2006 at 1:46 PM | PERMALINK

Oh, no. Don't tell me Jerry Lewis is wrapped up in this somehow.

Hey LADY!

Posted by: grytpype on March 4, 2006 at 1:52 PM | PERMALINK

1, 4, a dozen. . .

Hangin's too good for 'em.

Our boys died because we couldn't afford enough armor. These assholes stole money that could have been spent on better things.

These evil corrupt motherfuckers killed our own troops.

And the Jackass Dems are sitting there with their thumbs up their asses, pooh-poohing legislation by their own Obama.

Hangin's too good for 'em.

Posted by: osama_been_forgotten on March 4, 2006 at 1:55 PM | PERMALINK

This is plausible, and it's not just four California Republicans: It's the three chairs of the most powerful committees in the House, Appropriations, Armed Services and Natural Resources (or whatever they call it now)! This is institutional corruption at a very high level.

Posted by: Mark Schmitt on March 4, 2006 at 1:58 PM | PERMALINK

Word on the street from a little birdie is, Rohrabacher and Herger are tainted too. Mmm... taint -- take 'em away, boys!

Okay, so I have no hard evidence. Nor, however, do I have evidence that they *aren't* involved. So, a la Peggy Noonan, it would be irresponsible of us not to speculate...

Posted by: teh l4m3 on March 4, 2006 at 2:01 PM | PERMALINK

Are there going to be any Republicans left in California?

Fine with me.

Posted by: aldorossi on March 4, 2006 at 2:11 PM | PERMALINK

Do you notice how many fewer right-wing trolls there are on weekends? You get the impression that trolling on this site is part of someone's day job.

Posted by: Joe Buck on March 4, 2006 at 2:14 PM | PERMALINK

What will Jerry's kids think?

On the plus side, no more telethons.

Posted by: Jay on March 4, 2006 at 2:26 PM | PERMALINK

Has there been any explanation of how this worked? I understand that Duke could get money. What I don't get is how he could steer contracts. Did he get it written into law that certain companies would get contracts? Could he somehow talk directly with a purchasing agent and tell them how to award the contract?

Posted by: JohnK on March 4, 2006 at 2:26 PM | PERMALINK

It would be sweet justice to see Richard Pombo sentenced to a grungy strip mall for the rest of his days. Let him eat asphalt.

Posted by: Kellogii on March 4, 2006 at 2:30 PM | PERMALINK

"So let's all clap our hands and hope it's true, OK?"

Hell, let's all do a collective STANDING O in front of our monitors !
.

Posted by: VJ on March 4, 2006 at 2:36 PM | PERMALINK

Re Jerry Lewis goin' down.

I wish, wish, wish, Dems would start to fight for Jerry's seat. Okay, it's a conservative district but there's changes goin' on here.

Come on, Dems! Take advantage fer chrissake.

Posted by: Tilli (Mojave Desert) on March 4, 2006 at 2:37 PM | PERMALINK

"You know, if we had cameras in all our Representative's and Senator's offices, and had all their phones tapped, so that all of their conversations were monitored... then there would be no more corruption!"

I've long thought we should have "The President's Channel" which would document presidential activities 24/7. I want to see what he does in the bathroom. How do we know he isn't doing crack in there?

Invasive? Hell yes. You want to run the most powerful nation in the world, you take the hit.

Posted by: Crak Hed on March 4, 2006 at 2:43 PM | PERMALINK

I forgot this: public urine tests for all our elected officials.

Posted by: Crak Hed on March 4, 2006 at 2:44 PM | PERMALINK

Any relationship to Katherine Harris's admission (LATimes) that she'd steered $10M at the request of one of Cunningham's defense contractor playmates?

Posted by: CFShep on March 4, 2006 at 2:56 PM | PERMALINK

It just doesn't matter.

We all know Defeatacrats are losers. Wait till November, we will win like we did in 2000, 2002, and 2004. I can't believe the defeatacrats nominated a "Traitor" to run against President Bush in 2004. Keep up the good work.

Posted by: Auggy on March 4, 2006 at 2:57 PM | PERMALINK

I do believe in fairies! I do! I do!

Posted by: Desi on March 4, 2006 at 3:00 PM | PERMALINK

You know, if we had cameras in all our Representative's and Senator's offices, and had all their phones tapped, so that all of their conversations were monitored... then there would be no more corruption!

I, for one, am willing to give up a little more privacy for them in exchange for a little more security for me.

Craigie- That is f'ing genius. And I don't use that word often or lightly. What a great idea for a campaign. All the repugs who are in favor of warrentless wiretaps should jump right on board.

Perhaps an email can be sent to all of them asking for their support. Then in follow-up calls we can ask for their stance on it and say that if they are doing nothing wrong they have nothing to worry about.

Posted by: mpower1952 on March 4, 2006 at 3:12 PM | PERMALINK

aldorossi:

Are there going to be any Republicans left in California?

Geez, I didn't know there were any Republicans out here now.

***

Joe Buck:

Do you notice how many fewer right-wing trolls there are on weekends? You get the impression that trolling on this site is part of someone's day job.

Hey, on Saturday I get to sleep in. And make a BIG breakfast for a change.

I get a kick out of the inflated sense of self-importance that leads some people here to think someone would actually pay to have someone argue with them. This is a fun way to kill time between crunch sessions, and marginally more intellectually challenging than re-reading my comic book collection.

Here's a question for the peanut gallery: Next computer--32 bit or 64?

Posted by: tbrosz on March 4, 2006 at 3:14 PM | PERMALINK

"Here's a question for the peanut gallery: Next computer--32 bit or 64?"

That's a dumb question. The answer is dual core chips and PCI graphics slots for SLI.

Posted by: Dumbya Downer on March 4, 2006 at 3:44 PM | PERMALINK

Do I detect a hint of..... well bitterness in the room. From I don't know... the republican side. There are fewer trolls on the weekend. It also seems like the faithful are starting to dwindle except for our version of Bagdad Bob rdw.

Posted by: Neo on March 4, 2006 at 3:48 PM | PERMALINK

Caught that thug Ed Rollins last night on Dobbs' show -- he said look for 10 -15 Repubs on the various House military committees to be in deep yogurt by mid - Summer; he said there are three - plus DOJ investigations going on right now.

Just something else to clap hands about.

Posted by: fbg46 on March 4, 2006 at 3:55 PM | PERMALINK

Duncan Hunter? Oh great, another special election and another black eye for San Diego.

Posted by: Red on March 4, 2006 at 4:03 PM | PERMALINK

This is good news? Only for a partisan. It's crap - and if this pans out, these guys need serious jail time. The fact that you find this something to take pleasure in makes you no better than Hugh Hewitt, whom you love to mock. Why is it exactly that you think you're so much better?

Posted by: Chris on March 4, 2006 at 4:03 PM | PERMALINK

I'M HERE! Die, you evil libruls! ZAP! POW! Ha ha, got another one!

Posted by: Kaptain KoolAid on March 4, 2006 at 4:05 PM | PERMALINK

You can depend on Republicans to give us the best government money can buy. Unfortunately it isn't very competent, just corrupt.

more intellectually challenging than re-reading my comic book collection.Next computer--32 bit or 64? Posted by: tbrosz

64-bit dual core. I got a 64-bit almost 2 years ago for video processing. It's ok, but dual core would probably be a tad better.
You're intellectually less challenging than most. You need to upgrade your comics too.

Posted by: Mike on March 4, 2006 at 4:10 PM | PERMALINK

At the time of grave dangers facing America abroad, liberals are celebrating as if it's Hannukah. Over what? Crooked Politicians! Yeah that's news!

Posted by: tbrosz on March 4, 2006 at 4:10 PM | PERMALINK

And who made those grave dangers, ever hear of policy blowback? Here try this little experiment, walk out your front door turn left go down three houses and blow up your neighbors car. You have just made a poor policy decesion what happens afterwards is known as blowback.

Posted by: Neo on March 4, 2006 at 4:27 PM | PERMALINK

"...grave dangers facing America abroad..." because we have an incompetent preznit and crony government! "Bin Laden determined to strike in U.S." and "It looks like this could be the big one" (Katrina) just wasn't as important to them as squezing money out of CA energy consumers and cutting taxes for Ken Lay, and holding political foundraisers for each other.

I no longer think tbroz means much of what he says: it's just a game for him to try to get a rise out of us. All of my GOoP friends (except the former RNC member, who's loyal to a fault) now admit W is a disaster and hope that things don't get much worse before his term is over. I predict 30% approval by Easter, 20 indictments and 40 unindicted co-conspirators.

Posted by: Radio Head on March 4, 2006 at 4:40 PM | PERMALINK

At the time of grave dangers facing America abroad, liberals are celebrating as if it's Hannukah.

See that's where we disagree. The grave dangers facing America abroad, is rank bullshit. Abroad we have some mostly poor, mostly illiterate, radical fundamentalists who would like to do us harm. Sometimes they are able to do some harm, so yes we face some danger, be these dangers are at the level of the dangers that we face from the mostly poor, mostly illiterate radical fundamentalist (Timothy McVeigh, Eric Rudolph) at home.

The grave danger that we face is not from abroad, it is from at home and it comes from the criminal syndicate that is currently governing.

It is an incredible magic trick that any thinking person could be more afraid illiterate peasants 8000 miles away, than they are of the criminal racket that is the Republican Party.

Posted by: Ray on March 4, 2006 at 4:48 PM | PERMALINK

That last post was a fake. Check the e-mail addresses.

Democratic candidates are welcome to run this fall on the thesis that Bush is a greater threat to the U.S. than foreign terrorists. Be sure to explain your position on the port issue.

The main issue with 64 bit isn't my main CAD operation, it's compatibility with dozens of normally 32-bit applications, never mind drivers for several printers and peripherals.

Posted by: tbrosz on March 4, 2006 at 4:56 PM | PERMALINK

Med Matt. just put up a post that claims that Oliver Willis and Duncan Black have moved into together, with Black telling his wife that he's never felt so good.

Posted by: Claude C. on March 4, 2006 at 5:08 PM | PERMALINK

Poor Tbroz, trying out his B'rer Rabbit impersonation.

Believe me, Bush Worshiping Racist Boy, we will gleefully throw your boy into the briar patch, and it will hurt him far more than it does us.

Posted by: Phoenix Woman on March 4, 2006 at 5:36 PM | PERMALINK

Hey auggylovesbareback: keep sucking that chimp dick.

Posted by: cosmosis on March 4, 2006 at 5:46 PM | PERMALINK

John Doolittle is up to his earmarks in every corruption scandal going. Sure he's running for his ninth term in a northern CA district that is sometimes compared to CA's Orange County but he has a moderate Repub primary challenger.

Oh, please let this rumor be true...getting rid of the Doolittle-Pombo Combo would be bliss.

Two blogs tracking J-Doo's scandal woes:

nite swimming

Dump Doolittle

Posted by: cali on March 4, 2006 at 6:00 PM | PERMALINK

You have to say "developing..."!

Posted by: derek on March 4, 2006 at 6:10 PM | PERMALINK
it's compatibility with dozens of normally 32-bit applications. Posted by: tbrosz
Depends on your OS. My 64-bit Athlon runs all my old printers and peripherals under XP32. I tried XP64 beta, but none of the peripherals had 64-bit drivers so most didn't work. My understanding is that few, if any, companies are willing to take the expense to write 64-bit drivers for their old hardware. The OS was slightly faster. All the old software works fine with XP32. Old 16-bit software no longer functioned under XP64, but some of the 32bit software like Office did.

Bush has lost the security issue for Republicans with his Dubai ports and India nuclear giveaway. Of course any president that loses 3 skyscrapers, one medium sized city and destroys the military, all within 5 years, isn't all that popular with voters.

Posted by: Mike on March 4, 2006 at 6:26 PM | PERMALINK

Mike: Thanks. Beginning to look like a 64 bit processor and system running XP32 would be a good start, and move up to a 64 bit OS when some of the bugs are worked out.

Bush isn't up for re-election. I'm beginning to wonder how many people actually realize that.

Ironically, his trip to south Asia, had it been done by a Democratic president, probably would have been hailed as a great achievement. So it goes.

Posted by: tbrosz on March 4, 2006 at 6:36 PM | PERMALINK

.... the thesis that Bush is a greater threat to the U.S. than foreign terrorists..

Beneath every keyboard commando lurches a bushlicker beneath which lurches a circular strawman.

Posted by: lib on March 4, 2006 at 7:12 PM | PERMALINK

Bush isn't up for re-election.

Irrelevant.

If Bush and Co. can re-fight Vietnam, revise Watergate and Iran Contra, then Bush's record as the most criminal regime in US history is fair game, and will be for decades to come. At least until jackasses like yourself stop bringing up the Clenis.

Posted by: osama_been_forgotten on March 4, 2006 at 7:20 PM | PERMALINK

The main issue with 64 bit isn't my main CAD operation, it's compatibility with dozens of normally 32-bit applications, never mind drivers for several printers and peripherals.
Posted by: tbrosz on March 4, 2006 at 4:56 PM | PERMALINK

My 3-year old Power Mac is a dual-cpu 64 bit. Runs all the old software fine. Too bad Microsoft muscled all the CAD software developers off of Mac and Unix platforms. If only our government had the cujones to reign in the abusers of monopoly power. Oh wait - they did - until the Bush administration sandbagged the penalty-phase of a trial that had already been decided.

Posted by: osama_been_forgotten on March 4, 2006 at 7:27 PM | PERMALINK

I no longer think tbroz means much of what he says: it's just a game for him to try to get a rise out of us. All of my GOoP friends (except the former RNC member, who's loyal to a fault) now admit W is a disaster and hope that things don't get much worse before his term is over. I predict 30% approval by Easter, 20 indictments and 40 unindicted co-conspirators.
Posted by: Radio Head on March 4, 2006 at 4:40 PM | PERMALINK

He never did.

None of them did. This was Rove's strategy from the start. He figured out that most self-proclaimed conservatives don't really understand politics, don't care about the issues, (or anything else but themselves), and their main driving thought process is hatred of dirty-commie-america-hating-liberals. He decided to use it as a strategy to get votes so they could get into power and rob the Treasury blind.

He succeeded.

Now, I believe that at the end of all this, Bush's last act as President will be to just pardon all of them, and extend a hearty middle finger to the rest of the US. And there will still be a hardcore 30-40% of Americans who will be like "Fuck yeah! Go George! You show those bastard Liberals not to criminalize politics!"

Posted by: osama_been_forgotten on March 4, 2006 at 7:42 PM | PERMALINK

osama_been:

Odd. I wasn't aware that CAD developers had been "muscled" off of Unix, since I used ProEngineer and AutoCAD on a Sun Unix system for quite a while at Stanford. Apple made the mistake of becoming a hardware company instead of a software company, which might not have been the best decision. Nothing sinister about it. I own two PCs, and three Imacs, and they all do just fine.

I'm sure we'd be much better off if the government was deciding which operating systems would be the "right" ones. IMO, the huge advances in computing over the past decade or two are largely because the government has mostly stayed out of it.

The idea that destroying Microsoft would make life better for everyone is, sadly, typical of the Procrustean economic theories of the Left. The Justice Department attempt a few years ago to destroy Microsoft took most of the tech stock market with it. I'd prefer they didn't do us any more favors.

Posted by: tbrosz on March 4, 2006 at 7:48 PM | PERMALINK

Odd. I wasn't aware that CAD developers had been "muscled" off of Unix. . .

In general, there is a much wider availability on Windows platforms, since the early 1990's. Floating-point math being the desired core-competency for CAD software, and RISC platforms like PowerPC being ideal for such applications - one would think that CAD folks would have flocked to SUN and Apple, HPUX, SGI, etc. But as the software industry consolidated at a breakneck pace, and the Windows-only companies bought out the non-windows vendors; in nearly every niche of the software industry, all the result of Microsoft's illegal strongarm tactics.

I'm sure we'd be much better off if the government was deciding which operating systems would be the "right" ones.

So blanket standardization on Windows solutions (and Microsoft document formats) isn't "government deciding which operating systems would be the right ones"?

The idea that destroying Microsoft would make life better for everyone is, sadly, typical of the Procrustean economic theories of the Left.

Nobody wants to destroy Microsoft. Anti Microsoft people usually just want a level playing field so that other competitors can enter or remain in the market. Microsoft's only merit is marketshare. They wield it like a club. If they were to compete on something other than market-power alone, the world would be a better place, and Microsoft products would be better products. But they don't do that - because they don't have to. Of the few times where Microsoft has been forced to actually compete, they have done so well. But as soon as their competitors have been eliminated, they stop.


The Justice Department attempt a few years ago to destroy Microsoft took most of the tech stock market with it. I'd prefer they didn't do us any more favors.

That's bullshit. Absolute fucking bullshit. The stock market crashed because too many idiots invested in companies that didn't have a realistic business plan, just internet hype. Then when it started to become apparent that investors were being scammed (like Enron, WorldCom, etc.) people decided to take their money out. Lack of serious regulation and enforcement policy kept investors convinced that the stock market is a game that only insiders can succeed at. So they put their money into safer investments, (like housing and precious metals). This is why the DJIA, and NASDAQ, have been flat for 5 years. Because the Foxes are running the henhouse. The hens aren't going anywhere near the corrupt festering pit of crime that is the US stock market. If other software companies were allowed to enter the market without getting clubbed by Microsoft, then there might be a reason to invest in technology.

Posted by: osama_been_forgotten on March 4, 2006 at 8:11 PM | PERMALINK

Pombo hates Babi. That mofo deserves to go down for no other reason than that. Asshole has blocked for more than four years a new wilderness area in the west-central Cascades of Washington that even a westside Rethug was supporting.

Posted by: JeffII on March 4, 2006 at 8:17 PM | PERMALINK

More unconfirmed rumors:

The Bushes have a room full of Nazi paraphernalia in their Kennebunkport home.

In the 70s, John Bolton performed in pornographic films featuring children.

Dick Cheney tried to kill a man with a shotgun.


Posted by: Satan's Kitten on March 4, 2006 at 8:33 PM | PERMALINK

I live in Duncan Hunter's district and would like nothing more than to see him brought down. He is bad for the country even if he doesn't turn out to have taken bribes. He messes in local school district politics and was instrumental in getting a 5-0 wingnut majority on my local high school district.

Posted by: anandine on March 4, 2006 at 9:01 PM | PERMALINK

Looks like the slow learners on the board can't tell the difference between cheering that there are corrupt politicians and cheering that the corrupt politicians may actually get punished.

Posted by: justfortoday on March 4, 2006 at 9:33 PM | PERMALINK

Trbosz:

At the time of grave dangers facing America abroad, liberals are celebrating as if it's Hannukah. Over what? Crooked Politicians! Yeah that's news!

Ummm, I thought it was just days of wine and roses thanks to the splendiferous job the Dubya administration is doing. Not so?

But I'll grant you that there are "grave dangers" facing America. Most seriously from the crooks, thugs, and incompetents in the Republican party. But with some luck the lot of 'em will be facing hard time, and we'll be saved from at least that threat.

Cheers,

Posted by: Arne Langsetmo on March 4, 2006 at 10:48 PM | PERMALINK

To have Pombo kicked to the gutter, would be the best news, so far this year. This guy is such a greedy little slimball. In addition, our federal lands may be saved from the Republican attack on the environment.

Posted by: LarryB. on March 5, 2006 at 2:51 AM | PERMALINK

I've recently discovered that the sad thing about Cunningham is that he was once an actual, living, breathing hero. During Vietnam he repeatedly exhibited great skill and courage as a pilot.

Life is long.

Posted by: Jeffrey Davis on March 5, 2006 at 9:38 AM | PERMALINK

Martial valor and moral courage are pretty obviously not connected.

Occasionally, as in the person of John Kerry, you find both present to a considerable degree.

I lost a number of dear friends to that terrible war. I had lots of friends among returning vets - VVA - and they were never so proud as when Kerry stood up and testified. That's real courage.

The only pilot I knew who really fit the 'hero' desination was a medi-vac copter jock.

Land in a hot LZ to evacuate wounded? All in a day's wor.

Not 40,000 feet up and 230 mph dropping napalm and incendiaries on villages.

Posted by: CFShep on March 5, 2006 at 9:50 AM | PERMALINK

From what I've read of the Duke's war experience, he sounds like the kind of headstrong a**hole whom other fighter jocks used to disparage for getting into needlessly dangerous situations. He did shoot down a lot of MiGs, but on at least the last of those occasions it looks like he got lucky and should have broken off the engagement earlier. Also he claimed to have shot down a Vietnamese ace with 13 kills who turned out to...not exist.

CFShep, there's an amazing interview in the documentary "Hearts and Minds" with an ex-pilot named Floyd something, talking about his feelings of guilt over having bombed villages. He's interviewed at his house in Oklahoma, now with a long beard and flannel shirt. He says, "We didn't drop napalm, but we dropped stuff that was just as bad. And now, when I try to imagine how I would feel if somebody napalmed my kids...I don't know what I would be thinking about." And he breaks off, overwhelmed with emotion. I don't know if he's a hero, but I'd sooner have him as President than John McCain, anyway.

Posted by: brooksfoe on March 5, 2006 at 10:24 AM | PERMALINK

Please please please please PLEASE let it be true about Pombo.

Posted by: dogofthesouth on March 5, 2006 at 10:28 AM | PERMALINK

Jeff II,

Add Jerry Lewis to the anti-wilderness list - He stopped one in the eastern Mojave Desert a few years back - Wanted to help the dune buggy crowd - and if a few people built homes, his life insurance company could sell them policies - BUT, he did put in the "newsman's shield law" for California.

CF Shep,

Spot on about those "dust off" crews - a close friend of mine from my old army days reenlisted, went to Polk, then to Texas and became a dust off pilot - He made it back - Only pilot, I have ever truly trusted in the air.

Posted by: thethirdPaul on March 5, 2006 at 11:13 AM | PERMALINK

He says, "We didn't drop napalm, but we dropped stuff that was just as bad. And now, when I try to imagine how I would feel if somebody napalmed my kids...I don't know what I would be thinking about." And he breaks off, overwhelmed with emotion. I don't know if he's a hero, but I'd sooner have him as President than John McCain, anyway.
Posted by: brooksfoe

Me, too. No doubt about it.

Re: my pal the chopper jock, John G_____. Standing joke when John sat down was for everyone to cup a hand behind their ear..."Oh, just listening to see whether they actually clank or not."


>>>grin

Posted by: CFShep on March 5, 2006 at 11:46 AM | PERMALINK

Yes, but do they have the goods on Dean Martin? What about that Sammy Davis Jr. character?

Posted by: Dave on March 6, 2006 at 12:29 PM | PERMALINK

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Posted by: hgfhgf on March 6, 2006 at 1:32 PM | PERMALINK

Is there any investigation yet into the $140,000 contract for new furniture that MZM landed within days of the Shrub's annointment?

Paging David Safavian to the white courtesy phone...

Posted by: Atlaskan on March 6, 2006 at 4:07 PM | PERMALINK




 

 

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