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March 5, 2006
By: Kevin Drum

ACADEMY AWARD OPEN THREAD....My Oscar predictions:

  • The show will run three and a half hours because that's how long it's designed to run and that's how long it's run every year for the past several decades.

  • Nonetheless, critics will join the great Oscar Conspiracy just like they do every year, pretending to believe that the show ran way over its scheduled length yet again and demanding that Something Must Be Done.

Yes, I whine about this every year. I'm nothing if not predictable.

And of course, some will say that this isn't much of a prediction since I'm writing this post after the show is over. I consider that a mere technicality.

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Show went way under my 4hr assumption - kudos there. Still had to roll the credit music through the best picture acceptance speech.

Good spread around on the awards. And good height on the presenters.

Posted by: canucklehead on March 5, 2006 at 11:55 PM | PERMALINK

Major Best Picture upset! Never, in a million years, would I have guessed Crash would get the Best Picture nod. I'm still in shock. I would have bet the mortgage on Brokeback Mountain. Truly!, something crashed at the Academy for this to happen.

Posted by: Paul on March 5, 2006 at 11:57 PM | PERMALINK

Are "liberals" trying to setup America with their performance tonight? Rather than ranting about the plight of the Great Northern Lakes Spotted Sturgeon under the $hrub Regime, they appeared to have acted somewhat normal. Was it all an act? Did they really want to give their award to Sacheen Littlefeather, but they suppressed those urges for the greater good?

-- HuffAndBlow

Posted by: TLB on March 5, 2006 at 11:58 PM | PERMALINK

Either that, TLB, or your tired thesis about liberal hollywood is shallow and wrong.

But why quibble! Here at last is a thread that can be enjoyed by conservatives and normal people!

Posted by: craigie on March 5, 2006 at 11:59 PM | PERMALINK

Brokeback Mountain Loses! Ha ha!

Posted by: Al on March 6, 2006 at 12:00 AM | PERMALINK

Meanwhile The 'History' Channel had two hours of The Antichrist, recognizing Satan's emmissary.

Posted by: cld on March 6, 2006 at 12:02 AM | PERMALINK

It only went 2.5 hours, max, this year. I hope you won't be disappointed.

In the Tate household, the best gown award went to Reese Witherspoon. The nominees for worst gown award include Charlize Theron who appeared to have a growth on her arm and Naomi Watts, whose dress had melted.

We thought Jon Stewart did a great job.

The clip where the musicians attacked Tom Hanks to get him to stop his thank-you speech cracked me up. We all laughed at the "god-dust" sprinkled on Keira Knightley's cheekbones.

All in all, 2.5 hours well spent.

Posted by: PTate in MN on March 6, 2006 at 12:02 AM | PERMALINK

PTate must have tuned in at the acheduled time Eastern.

Posted by: Libby Sosume on March 6, 2006 at 12:06 AM | PERMALINK

Who was Tom Hanks swearing at when he came out to read the Best Director nomination?

Posted by: enozinho on March 6, 2006 at 12:07 AM | PERMALINK

I don't know if Hanks was swearing, but by all accounts Steven Speilberg is one of his best friends. He seemed to be looking his direction.

Posted by: Ron Byers on March 6, 2006 at 12:10 AM | PERMALINK

I swear I saw him mouth the words "fucking dick" as he walked out from behind the curtain thingy. And what's up with his hair?

Posted by: enozinho on March 6, 2006 at 12:12 AM | PERMALINK

I thought Hanks was trash talking Jon Stewart for some mysterious reason.

Posted by: Lucy on March 6, 2006 at 12:20 AM | PERMALINK

I didn't see that - but Tom's hair was a bit strange - almost as bad as Uma's hairdo.
Never would have thought it - but Cheney - are you gay?

Posted by: dante on March 6, 2006 at 12:33 AM | PERMALINK

Never would have thought it - but Cheney - are you gay?

Ha! That's funny! Of course, it would explain a lot...

Posted by: craigie on March 6, 2006 at 12:36 AM | PERMALINK

Damn our Chinese friends are back. I wonder if the presence is in honor of Ang Lee?

Oddly this is the first year in a long time where I haven't seen any of the nominated films. The all struck me as preachy. If I need preachiness I will listen to Bill O'Reilly.

Stewart's line about Capote and Good Night and Good Luck was funny. Imagine two shows about reporters with integrity and a willingness to get to the bottom of a story. As he pointed out they were period pieces.

I was pulling for Huffman, just because her performance really deserved an academy award, but what difference does that make. I was also pulling for the Paul Giamatti. A great performance following up Sideways. Funny story about Joe Gould, the guy he played. Gould knew that Braddock was washed up when he signed up to fight Joe Louis. Broken hands, ribs and about everything else. He was able to negotiate that Braddock would get 10% of Louis's gate for the next ten years. Made both of them comfortable the rest of their lives. Braddock didn't end up a pug like most of the fighters of that era because of Joe Gould.

Posted by: Ron Byers on March 6, 2006 at 12:37 AM | PERMALINK

craigie: Here at last is a thread that can be enjoyed by conservatives and normal people!

Except for Cheney/Chuckles who appears to be working his assigned street corner. His pimp must want a new pair of shoes.

Posted by: Apollo 13 on March 6, 2006 at 12:38 AM | PERMALINK

Tom Hanks has his "DaVinci Code" hairdo still. He probably needs to keep it that way until they wrap.

Posted by: Roxanne on March 6, 2006 at 12:40 AM | PERMALINK

No, but Kerry said my daughter was . . .
So your fascination with hair is John Kerry's fault? Aha. I knew it all the time. Those dam dimmocrats. Where's my shotgun?

Posted by: dante on March 6, 2006 at 12:42 AM | PERMALINK

Best gown --Jessica Alba.

Posted by: carmendelbarco on March 6, 2006 at 12:46 AM | PERMALINK

Okay, da Colbert Code got: Best Supporting Actress, Best Actress, Best Actor, and Best Picture (because he refused to name BBMt)...and I think he might have gotten Best Supporting Actor right as well, although I'm not sure. That's pretty impressive.

Posted by: Royko on March 6, 2006 at 12:47 AM | PERMALINK

Is this the same jackass producer who's done the previous years' Oscars? And if so, is there some way we can disappear him before next year so people aren't rudely shut off before they can say anything just so we can have more boring songs sung?

Posted by: Bah Humbug on March 6, 2006 at 12:54 AM | PERMALINK

I guessed everything right--and I mean everything except for Best Song--up until best actress, for which I didn't have a clue. Then I stated--for the record, of course--that for Crash or especially Capote to have a chance at Best Picture, Haggis would have to be selected Best Director, otherwise it would be Ang Lee, followed by Brokeback Mountain for Best Picture. When Lee won, then I knew Brokeback had won as well. So much for my track record, something like 11-for-12, until Best Actress came along. Crash winning is truly an upset... until my best girl reminded me that she predicted that Los Angeles academy voters love Los Angeles-centric films and would vote for Crash. That was her best call of the night. That one pick wiped out all my previous prescience...
--
HRlaughed

Posted by: HRlaughed on March 6, 2006 at 1:00 AM | PERMALINK

One of the credits at the end of the broadcast was "Green Room Decorator".

Posted by: DonBoy on March 6, 2006 at 1:02 AM | PERMALINK


CHENEY: No, but Kerry said my daughter was

Well, you could always shoot him. But "Kerry said" so, you say. No truth to it then? No wonder the pornography writer you married got all indignant. By the way, is your daughter still gay?


Posted by: jayarbee on March 6, 2006 at 1:06 AM | PERMALINK

How about a fair use Alba picture with the post? Just don't imply she's nude in the comments.

Posted by: B on March 6, 2006 at 1:12 AM | PERMALINK

Jon Stewart introduced Tom Hanks by saying that (paraphrasing) he "could respect any actor who was a good enough sport to agree to be whacked by the viola player."

Hanks was (mock) chewing Stewart out for making him participate in the earlier sketch.

P.S. Keira Knightley is a blight on the big screen. I don't care how many consider her (make your pick) "beautiful," "a terrific actress," blah blah blah. She's a goddamn nuisance. Just. Go. Away. Already. Sheesh.

Posted by: Andy Rooney on March 6, 2006 at 1:13 AM | PERMALINK

Saw the "Constant Gardner" and "June Bug" within a week of each other - Amy Adams was robbed.

Salma Hayek - beauty and intelligence - Please more films - Read that she may be in Altman's new film "Paint".

And, now, on behalf of all the imbeciles and half-wits on this thread, loved Crash when I first saw the DVD - it DESERVED the Oscar.

Posted by: thethirdPaul on March 6, 2006 at 1:20 AM | PERMALINK

3rd Paul,

Did you see Salma in Frida? Her with Ashley Judd? Wow!

Posted by: Apollo 13 on March 6, 2006 at 1:28 AM | PERMALINK

Cheney, How does it feel to be a brainwashed political puppet? Maybe you'd think more clearly without the hand of the Texas Mafia up your ass!

Posted by: bush+dick=fucked on March 6, 2006 at 1:30 AM | PERMALINK

Salma Hayek is wonderful in 'Ask the Dust', Robert Towne's otherwise lame new movie.

Posted by: Kenji on March 6, 2006 at 1:31 AM | PERMALINK

until my best girl reminded me that she predicted that Los Angeles academy voters love Los Angeles-centric films and would vote for Crash. That was her best call of the night.

Mmmm, maybe. I think that it's more likely that the Academy, which is stuffed with actors, likes ensemble films like Crash with lots of juicy roles for lots of actors. Crash is an actor's movie.

Posted by: craigie on March 6, 2006 at 1:35 AM | PERMALINK

craigie,

You might be right about that, and I like them too. Except that when I try and think of how many ensemble-type films have won Best Picture, I draw a blank (LotR III?). It's certainly true that most of my favorite teevee comedies and dramas over the past twenty-five years have been ensembles--loosely defined as more than four actors each getting roughly equal face time.
--
HRlaughed

Posted by: HRlaughed on March 6, 2006 at 1:55 AM | PERMALINK

Did Robert Altman really have a heart transplant?

Posted by: cld on March 6, 2006 at 2:07 AM | PERMALINK

Jessica Alba --nude in my heart.

Posted by: carmendelbarco on March 6, 2006 at 2:21 AM | PERMALINK

I thought that the Lily Tomlin/Meryl Streep bit leading into the Altman salute was brilliant and the most lively, artful thing all night. Altman's speech was powerful too, tho when he identified where his heart came from (a woman in her 30s) i started wondering who she was and whether he should thank her too, and this distracted me a little.

I don't like that 3-6 Mafia song so much (I mean it's catchy, but like I have time to hear how hard it is to be a pimp? I know, unreliable narrators, etc. but it's not particularly cool or clever)-but they were pretty lively too and I'm glad to see turntables on the oscar stage. I was rooting for Dolly for best song, but just because of her, not for that boring song (in the service of a good cause tho it may be) and that song from Crash is just turgid Celine dionesqe crap, however well meant.

Happy that Reese Witherspoon got the nod & teared up during her speech. maybe it's the accent. wish someone had mentioned that there's a war on & given a shout out to the troops.

Posted by: URK on March 6, 2006 at 2:37 AM | PERMALINK

Was it my imagination or were there a lot of presenters whose noses seemed to be going off sideways? Toward the left, in fact. Meryl Streep and Dustin Hoffman in particular.

Posted by: cld on March 6, 2006 at 2:41 AM | PERMALINK

Ron Byers: Stewart's line about Capote and Good Night and Good Luck was funny. Imagine two shows about reporters with integrity and a willingness to get to the bottom of a story. As he pointed out they were period pieces.

That was a pretty good one. And the audience smugly laughed since it reinforced their smug sense of superiority and 'in-ness'.

But the gag I particularly liked was the line that absolutely and totally bombed with all the very, very rich and famous in attendance:

He did a deadpan plea against pirating and then referred to the rich and lavishly dressed audience and said, "These are the people you're stealing from." As he unsuccessfully urged the camera to pan over these 'poor, poor people'.

And 'Wallace' won, so I'm happy. Where can one ever see the short animations though?

Posted by: CFShep on March 6, 2006 at 8:01 AM | PERMALINK

Agree with Andy on Knightly.

Posted by: Hedley Lamarr on March 6, 2006 at 8:05 AM | PERMALINK

CFShep,

Like you my wife and I loved the joke about the poor, poor women who couldn't afford gowns that covered their breasts, as well. That joke didn't bomb in the mid-west. In fact later in the show, my wife noted that the gowns on a couple of presenters looked to be a little too tight, and I reminded her that these were the same women who couldn't afford enough fabric to cover their breasts.

Posted by: Ron Byers on March 6, 2006 at 8:15 AM | PERMALINK

I see that the "Brokeback lost" meme because of conservative pressure is already being circulated around various blogs.

I saw "Crash" coming (so to speak) -- everyone seemed to be mentioning it in interviews. I got the feeling it was what everyone in LA was talking about over dinner.

And they love that movie because it's *about* LA -- you can't underestimate that.

The Meryl Streep/Lily Tomlin thing was so incredibly good......

(And I liked Jon Stewart's comment about pulling the statue down to promote democracy)

Posted by: zmulls on March 6, 2006 at 8:22 AM | PERMALINK

(And I liked Jon Stewart's comment about pulling the statue down to promote democracy)
Posted by: zmulls

Missed that one 'cause I was really watching MASH and flipping over at commercials. Like it a lot.

I taped the thing though, so I should be able to watch the whole thing in about an hour by selective use of FF.

heh.

Posted by: CFShep on March 6, 2006 at 8:50 AM | PERMALINK

Saw the "Constant Gardner" and "June Bug" within a week of each other - Amy Adams was robbed.


Wow. My wife and I thought pretty much the exact same thing.

We both think Rachel Weisz is gorgeous but what was so particularly outstanding about her acting job in "Constant Gardener"?

It didn't seem any better than dozens of other supporting actress's performances last year.

[The only random thing I could think of was that it was some sort of payback for showing her arse so much in the film!]

OTH, Amy Adams was fantastic in "Junebug", although I thought the movie may have hit a little bit too hard on the "red state/blue state" differences.

Adams was robbed.

Posted by: JR on March 6, 2006 at 9:33 AM | PERMALINK

Some people predict the future; I predict the past!

Posted by: Criswell on March 6, 2006 at 10:34 AM | PERMALINK

Best gown --Jessica Alba.

That was a gown? I thought it was a soda straw wrapper.

Posted by: Jeffrey Davis on March 6, 2006 at 10:57 AM | PERMALINK

HOw about Dolly Parton? Liposuctioned to a fare-thee-well with stick thin arms and legs but with that huge plastic bust jutting out into space with a bra that can only have come from Popular Mechanics.

Did they have her hooked to a safety harness so as to insure she wouldn't actually fall over?

Gets any more plastic surgery done she's gonna look like a cartoon animal.

Posted by: CFShep on March 6, 2006 at 11:07 AM | PERMALINK

I loved Brokeback Mountain winning best adapted screenplay and Diana Ossana's accepting in a low-cut gown featuring the top two reasons not to be gay. That's what I call "Fair and Balanced."

Posted by: IS LED BY NONE on March 6, 2006 at 11:07 AM | PERMALINK

Knightley's already an accomplished actress -- acting for pay since she was 8 -- and she's not yet 21.

Posted by: Jeffrey Davis on March 6, 2006 at 11:07 AM | PERMALINK

Brokeback Mountain winning best adapted screenplay

Larry McMurtry. Nuff said.

Posted by: CFShep on March 6, 2006 at 11:09 AM | PERMALINK

"I thought that the Lily Tomlin/Meryl Streep bit leading into the Altman salute was brilliant and the most lively, artful thing all night."

Absolutely! Some real acting! I don't understand
why all the other presenters, mostly experienced
actors/actresses, can't manage to learn their damn
lines and rehearse them, rather than reading them
badly off the teleprompter.

Second-best moment: George Clooney's acceptance
speech for Syriana, deftly pointing out that
when Hollywood has been out of touch with
mainstream American values, that has often been
because those "mainstream" values have been
immoral and archaic.

On the "Pimp" song, I was puzzled by the lyrics
about "witches" until I figured they must have
banned the B****-word - can anyone who saw the
movie confirm that ? It seems weird to me, the
song wins the Oscar but you don't have the guts
to sing the real words ?

On Jon Stewart, some good jokes, but really would
be better to have a presenter who isn't quite so
dedicated to undercutting *everything*.

Posted by: Richard Cownie on March 6, 2006 at 11:41 AM | PERMALINK

It's been hilarious reading the national Review's circle-jerk blog, THE CORNER, today. Here they were all working up a head of steam to denounce "degenerate Hollywood" and it's "love affair with queers", and today they're reduced to sniping about George ("Better-Looking-Then-they-Can-Ever-Dream-To-Be") Clooney. Hilarious!

Posted by: tam1MI on March 6, 2006 at 11:50 AM | PERMALINK

Damn you, Clooney

Posted by: rdw not on March 6, 2006 at 12:01 PM | PERMALINK

CF Shep,

Re your Dolly comment - Reminded of a scene from "Foul Play" with Goldie Hawn and Chevy Chase - The scene where Dudley Moore's character takes Goldie back to his "pad" - when he opens one of the wall closets, there are the the blow-up dolls. Dudley, dancing around, singing "Stayin' Alive, Stayin' Alive" with the porno movie showing on the wall and all of the adult toy props was hilarious.

Yes, Dolly did look like a blow-up doll.

Posted by: thethirdPaul on March 6, 2006 at 12:07 PM | PERMALINK

Yes, Dolly did look like a blow-up doll.
Posted by: thethirdPaul

A somewhat elderly Jessica Rabbit?

Speaking of blow-up dolls, I've got a book for ya, babe. "Wilt" by Tom Sharp.

You'll hurt yourself laughing.

Posted by: CFShep on March 6, 2006 at 12:15 PM | PERMALINK

Correction: Tom Sharpe - Brit don't ya know.

Posted by: CFShep on March 6, 2006 at 12:16 PM | PERMALINK

On the "Pimp" song, I was puzzled by the lyrics about "witches" until I figured they must have banned the B****-word - can anyone who saw the movie confirm that ?

They redid parts of the songs so it could air on television without being interrupted by lots of beeps.

http://www.armyarcherd.com/2006/02/its_hard_out_he.html

Posted by: rkimball on March 6, 2006 at 12:21 PM | PERMALINK

Dolly Parton is starting to look like Faye Dunaway--they muht use the same plastic surgeon. 0ver and over again.

There was one moment early on, where the duo who won for best short film showed up and the guy just hogged the mike endlessly, seemingly naming everyone in the U.S. Census, and when the poor woman who won with him got the mike, it was shut off.

And the political correctness got out of control with the "Crash" win. That was basically a bad film-student movie. Cardboard-cutout characters, pandering preachiness (all whites are evil, all minorities are saints and victims) and ludicrous, speechifying dialogue. NO ONE talks that way. On the Today show this morning, the writers said it took seven years to write the script. The movie felt only slightly shorter to watch.

George Clooney was a fabulous winner, but whom exactly was he "supporting" in "Syriana"? Another case of putting someone in a category they have a better chance of winning in. But he was great in the movie, and deserves recognition for turning out relevant movies that are actually artistically sound and entertaining.

Naomi Watts looked like she ran her gown through a weedwhacker, and Charlize Theron looked mighty uncomfortable all evening, perhaps due to the giant raven perched on her shoulder. Overall, the gowns were nice, though. A lot of classic black or beige, nice clean lines.

And I loved the poltical attack ads for Best Actress!

Posted by: sullijan on March 6, 2006 at 12:45 PM | PERMALINK

11:29 on the nose according to my cable box. And they visibly rushed the closing moments to get it there.

Posted by: JayAckroyd on March 6, 2006 at 12:50 PM | PERMALINK

Meanwhile, Oh ma gaw! The Internal Revenue Service announced late last week that it will be taking a closer look at the swag trade -- the tens of thousands of dollars worth of freebies that celebrities snap up during Oscar week -- and urged the stars to remind their accountants to report swag as income. (We demand a fuller investigation; we expect Hill testimony from Knightley, who should be wearing librarian specs and three open buttons on a white blouse while they grill her about free jewels, spa trips, iPods. Just our advice.)

Oh, my. Er....goody.

Best Visual Effect: Sure, the Kong guys won the award, but we were left stunned by how lifelike Dolly Parton appeared. (eonline.com )

Posted by: CFShep on March 6, 2006 at 12:55 PM | PERMALINK

Ooops left off the URL for that first bit: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/05/AR2006030501201.html?sub=AR
Hank Stuever

Posted by: CFShep on March 6, 2006 at 12:58 PM | PERMALINK

Naomi Watts looked like she ran her gown through a weedwhacker, and Charlize Theron looked mighty uncomfortable all evening, perhaps due to the giant raven perched on her shoulder. Overall, the gowns were nice, though. A lot of classic black or beige, nice clean lines.

The fashion designers who foisted those monstrosities on two beautiful women like Charlize Theron and Naomi Watts should be forced to wear leisure suits and have their hair styled into mullets. When Charlize Theron was on the screen I had to hold my thumb up in front of my eyes to block out the black monstrosity on her shoulder.

Posted by: "Fair and Balanced" Dave on March 6, 2006 at 1:10 PM | PERMALINK

CFShep:

That's your IRS at work for you ; )
Posted by: Cheney

Couldn't be more pleased. These emoluments are payment for attending/shilling for the companies which put this stuff in the bags.

Fully taxable. I understand the Golden Globes haul alone was worth around $30k.

Did you misunderstand? The Service is welcome to have at these over pampered showponies.

Posted by: CFShep on March 6, 2006 at 1:15 PM | PERMALINK

Uh oh.

First Republicrat praises my 'lively comments'. Now this! Cheney agrees with me...

What me worry?

Posted by: CFShep on March 6, 2006 at 1:32 PM | PERMALINK

Cheney: I practise RealOscarik, which manadates that I assume 4 hours and endless droning. I usually achieve the desired result of thinking they are actually ahead of schedule. Better than NeoOscaritism, where the expectations of a a one hour show, The Passion always winning, and sleeping with the best actress just never seem to work out.

Thanks for ducking into the situation room and reminding me of that 2002 catastrophe.

Posted by: canucklehead on March 6, 2006 at 2:09 PM | PERMALINK

I've just reviewed the Oscar presentation and find I have a, slender indeed, connection.

I went to highschool with Tony Kushner's (nominated for screenplay & 'Angels in America') older brother.

Almost like knowing the cousin of somebody's hairdresser, eh? Which, come to think of it is how I heard that Rock Hudson was gay - way back in 1971.

Curiouser and curiouser.

Posted by: CFShep on March 6, 2006 at 5:02 PM | PERMALINK

i thought Jon's best line came after the "important films that have impacted our lives" montage when he said(ish) "and thankfully, none of those issues were ever a problem again"

i really could have done without all the film clips, just give the the awards and get it over with. (course the only reason i watched this year was JS) i thought it was funny, (not good funny, poor plannning funny) some of the clips they had together, like Speed during the "epics" montage, and Network during the "important films" montage {wasn't that about a TV anchor who went crazy and his station kept him on, how is that supposed to change my life?}

i thought the fake attack ads were funny, and Farrell and Carell coming out in really bad makeup. Stiller's thing didn't work so well.

overall i thought JS did well, i'm glad Crash won best picture. as someone else said, i'm glad they spread things around a bit.

even if JS hosts again next year, i doubt i'll be watching.

Posted by: e1 on March 6, 2006 at 8:39 PM | PERMALINK

Re the underscoring: Doesn't work. Works in films, not on stage. I've seen it tried in plays, and it never works there either. Has to be somehow motivated: In a play there's a radio on the set or a band in the next room or something. Or it's a fantasy sequence. "Real" people and background music creates a cognitive dissonance, to probably misuse a pretentious term. Besides, on the Oscars it makes you think their speech is about to run overtime from the second they begin. Someone send a memo to Mr. Cates.

Posted by: mja94116 on March 7, 2006 at 9:26 AM | PERMALINK

OT

Truly saddened by this:

African music giant Toure dies

Tuesday, March 7, 2006; Posted: 10:03 a.m. EST (15:03 GMT)

BAMAKO, Mali (AP) -- Two-time Grammy Award winner Ali Farka Toure of Mali, one of Africa's most famous performers, died Tuesday after a long illness, Mali's Culture Ministry announced. He was in his late 60s.

Also wondering why the death of Christopher Reeve's wife justifies huge banner headline?

Posted by: CFShep on March 7, 2006 at 11:26 AM | PERMALINK

They did change Three 6 Mafias "bitches" to "witches." The movie Hustle and Flow made a lot more sense than their performance at the Oscars.

Posted by: is led by none on March 7, 2006 at 12:41 PM | PERMALINK




 

 

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