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March 7, 2006
By: Kevin Drum

WINGNUTTERY WATCH....Chicago Dyke passes along the news that some nutball assemblyman in New Jersey is trying to pass a law prohibiting anonymous posting on the internet. Of course, if anonymous posters are criminals, then only criminals will be, um, anonymous posters. Or something.

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Thank God I'm not in New Jersey!

Posted by: Advocate for God on March 7, 2006 at 9:34 PM | PERMALINK

Chicago Dyke passes along the news that some nutball assemblyman in New Jersey is trying to pass a law prohibiting anonymous posting on the internet.

I'm against it. The assemblyman must be some liberal trying to prevent conservative truth tellers from posting on their blogs.

Posted by: Al on March 7, 2006 at 9:36 PM | PERMALINK

That's why I only ever post under my real name.

Posted by: floopmeister on March 7, 2006 at 9:38 PM | PERMALINK

These rules are very common place on college campuses. Obviously it's a liberal ploy to crush dissent.

Posted by: Freedom Fighter on March 7, 2006 at 9:38 PM | PERMALINK

Nope, Al, Biondi's a Republican. Nice photo, too.

ShaZAM!

Posted by: tbrosz on March 7, 2006 at 9:39 PM | PERMALINK


He just happens to be a Republican.


Posted by: jayarbee on March 7, 2006 at 9:40 PM | PERMALINK

I'm against it. The assemblyman must be some liberal trying to prevent conservative truth tellers from posting on their blogs.

Yeah, when will those dumb liberals realise all they have to do is not host comments, like the geniuses at Powerline.

I love parody Al!

Posted by: floopmeister on March 7, 2006 at 9:42 PM | PERMALINK

What floopmeister said.

Posted by: cld on March 7, 2006 at 9:42 PM | PERMALINK

I meant what he said before. But that's not bad, either.

Posted by: cld on March 7, 2006 at 9:46 PM | PERMALINK

Why thank you cld.

Most kind.

:)

Posted by: floopmeister on March 7, 2006 at 9:47 PM | PERMALINK

It took this many comments?

Posted by: anonymous on March 7, 2006 at 9:49 PM | PERMALINK

It took this many comments?

Who said that?

Posted by: floopmeister on March 7, 2006 at 9:50 PM | PERMALINK

Nice photo, too. ShaZAM!

I don't get the conection. Uncle Marvel?

Posted by: B on March 7, 2006 at 9:52 PM | PERMALINK

Obviously, anonymity is anathema to all of society and when allowed to grow unabrogated it announces in advance the approach of anarchy. By my name, I swear this, you cunts.

Posted by: Silence Dogood on March 7, 2006 at 9:53 PM | PERMALINK

That's why I only ever post under my real name.

Floopmeister J. Scribblesworth III

Posted by: trex on March 7, 2006 at 10:04 PM | PERMALINK

I was behind the whole thing!!!

Posted by: minion of rove on March 7, 2006 at 10:05 PM | PERMALINK

...that some nutball assemblyman in New Jersey...

And he shall remain anonymous?

I mean really Kevin...ought you not give him his 15 seconds of internet fame and let us flame him to death?

Posted by: anon on March 7, 2006 at 10:12 PM | PERMALINK

it's being sponsored by a republican--pete biondi. apparently someone left some anonymous comments on his kids' livejournal, so rather than simply make their lj's friends-only, they are having their dad make mean anonymous posts illegal.

i think this may be the first time that lj drama has spilled over into legislation, though i may be wrong.

Posted by: rufustfyrfly on March 7, 2006 at 10:14 PM | PERMALINK

Nutball assemblymen from New Jersey must be terminated with extreme prejudice.

Posted by: Psycho in Dark w/ Mac on March 7, 2006 at 10:14 PM | PERMALINK

Freedom Fighter,

Can you name a few of the campuses that ban anonymous posting? I've never heard of this rule. And, I can't imagine how it could be possibly enforced in any computer science department.

Posted by: joe on March 7, 2006 at 10:14 PM | PERMALINK


Pete Biondi's kid make good snack.

Posted by: Predatorminator on March 7, 2006 at 10:16 PM | PERMALINK

oops, my bad. my informant was incorrect. disregard my previous comment.

Posted by: rufustfyrfly on March 7, 2006 at 10:18 PM | PERMALINK

Thanks for the link. But I think it's important to keep calm.

Im sure a bill like this wont have any chilling effect at all, and we can surely trust the Republicans not to bring frivolous lawsuits against their opponents over trivial matters (like, say, a blowjob). I mean, surely a nutball like this isn't truly representative of his party.

And its not as if the authors of the Federalist Papers wrote anonymously. Oh, wait

Posted by: lambert strether on March 7, 2006 at 10:22 PM | PERMALINK

Can we legislate against anonymouse Chinese comments?

Posted by: craigie on March 7, 2006 at 10:41 PM | PERMALINK

I might agree with helloworld if I knew what he said. Perhaps if he, in his anonymity, spoke a little louder.

Posted by: dunno on March 7, 2006 at 10:41 PM | PERMALINK

anonymouse! Best typo today!

Well, if I can't post anonymously, then I'll just have to use my real name - Jeb Bush.

Posted by: craigie on March 7, 2006 at 10:42 PM | PERMALINK

After the recent Amy Sullivan post, I'm having a bit of trouble believing anything I read here. Especially since a five second glance at Drudge's link seemed to indicate it was just for ISPs and not for site operators.

In the Amy Sullivan post, she supported those Bishops that support illegal immigration.

This link shows why those bishops are acting immorally and why Sullivan is a complete idiot:

lonewacko.com/blog/archives/004709.html

Posted by: TLB on March 7, 2006 at 10:49 PM | PERMALINK

"Can we legislate against anonymouse Chinese comments?"

Well actually this got me thinking:

There ought to be a web site that keeps a running list of republican party attempts to make a nanny-state out of our government.

Oh yeah...one more thing:

Pete Biondi... go fuck yourself.

Posted by: anon on March 7, 2006 at 10:50 PM | PERMALINK

And we have also added "Fatty fatyy boom balatty," to the list of words outlawed in New Jersey

Posted by: nutty little nut nut on March 7, 2006 at 11:01 PM | PERMALINK

Didn't Michael Corleone push, in "Godfather IX," for an end to the witness protection program?

Posted by: ferd on March 7, 2006 at 11:23 PM | PERMALINK

Can you say "child molestor's field day"? The first thing every parent tells their kid about the internet is "Don't give out your real name!". Why would anyone ever want to make that illegal?

Posted by: anonymous on March 7, 2006 at 11:35 PM | PERMALINK

when the right wing finishes building the fortress with all the Cameras, the 'Security' Acts, The Fear, The Microphones, The Web Monitors, Data Mining the thought strikes them
-"Hey, you know this does look like a Prison"

Posted by: one eye buck tooth [X^B on March 7, 2006 at 11:37 PM | PERMALINK

gubberment 'Bloggers' even.
How Quaintly Police State-esque!
CENTCOM

Posted by: one eye buck tooth [X^B on March 7, 2006 at 11:46 PM | PERMALINK

Booooo!
Run Sheeple Run!
King George Will save you from
trampling and stampeding yourselves!

[NOT]

Posted by: one eye buck tooth [X^B on March 7, 2006 at 11:50 PM | PERMALINK

Great, only people named "anonymous" will be arrested!

Posted by: Matt on March 7, 2006 at 11:53 PM | PERMALINK

After the recent Amy Sullivan post, I'm having a bit of trouble believing anything I read here.

Actually, that was the whole point. We all sat down with Amy, and tried to come up with a post she could put up that would make you give up on the site once and for all.

So now that you can't believe anything you read here, go find someone else's blog to bother with your incessant, one-note bleating for attention for your (aptly named) blog.

We get it. You hate immigrants. You hate anyone who doesn't share your hate for immigrants.

Posted by: cmdicely on March 8, 2006 at 12:04 AM | PERMALINK

These rules are very common place on college campuses. Obviously it's a liberal ploy to crush dissent. Freedom Fighter

Oh obviously.

I have to agree, of course, because my dissent is being crushed most liberally.

BTW, Freedom Fighter, who's winning - you or Freedom?

Posted by: floopmeister on March 8, 2006 at 12:13 AM | PERMALINK

Hey cmdicely, don't miss the fine smackdown I put on you in Amy's current thread.

And since we're both lefties who supposedly care about immigrants, wouldn't it be better to cooperate?

Posted by: Arminius on March 8, 2006 at 12:17 AM | PERMALINK

Wouldn't such an act be found unconstitutional since it discriminates against those who have yet to experience their 15 minutes of fame?

That, and the fact it's really stupid.

Posted by: bobbyp on March 8, 2006 at 12:22 AM | PERMALINK

Hey cmdicely, don't miss the fine smackdown I put on you in Amy's current thread.

Asserting that I am pompous, mean, shallow, and wrong is not a "fine smackdown". A fine smackdown is focussed, narrowly tailored, and specific.

And since we're both lefties who supposedly care about immigrants, wouldn't it be better to cooperate?

I'm not the one who came in and pissed in the pool without, apparently, even reading the thread before characterizing the comments as ignorant and simple-minded.

Posted by: cmdicely on March 8, 2006 at 12:42 AM | PERMALINK

A fine smackdown is focussed, narrowly tailored, and specific.

And grammatically correct, of course.

;)

Posted by: floopmeister on March 8, 2006 at 12:44 AM | PERMALINK

Judging from the deafening silence, I'll assume Freedomfool was talking out his ass again.

foopmeister,
You implied you know something about blog activity on campuses. Could you explain its basis?

Posted by: joe on March 8, 2006 at 1:05 AM | PERMALINK

joe; nah, I was just poking fun at Freedom Fries.

It's just another example of how sarcasm doesn't translate well in an online textual environment.

I'd be pretty surprised if the 'liberal mafia' at universities wasted too much time even trying to do something like this. What would be the point?

Posted by: floopmeister on March 8, 2006 at 1:12 AM | PERMALINK

Well, sounds like a good idea...if you want to round up all the participants in the Federalist and hang the traitors! Oh...wait. That didn't happen.

Posted by: parrot on March 8, 2006 at 1:25 AM | PERMALINK

And I would have to become a real doctor...

The Wild West days of the Internet are long gone. The settlers are busy at work stringing barbed wire and building communities, and they are beginning to demand law and order as well. The more stories that run on the TV news about pedophiles lurking on MySpace, the more that Joe and Jane Sixpack, who only use their PC's to send e-mail and check eBay, will demand that something be done. Limitations on Internet free speech will be cloaked in language that we are "protecting the children".

Posted by: dr sardonicus on March 8, 2006 at 2:39 AM | PERMALINK

"...false or defamatory information about the person on a public forum website."

I'm sorry... I thought that was what the internet was all about.

But I guess that some think that if they saw it on the internet, it must be true.

Posted by: Joe Smith on March 8, 2006 at 4:58 AM | PERMALINK

"...false or defamatory information about the person on a public forum website."

Pete Biondi is a gay, racist, hang-gliding space alien.

Posted by: tron on March 8, 2006 at 9:38 AM | PERMALINK

I'm confused. Annoying someone on the web anonymously is already against the law. Personally, I find people who are afraid to stand by their opinions with their own names annouying, so all you anonymous posters here are freemen, sort of, at my whim.

I've never understood the impulse to hide. An anonymous opinion is a meaningless opinion.

Posted by: Jeffrey Davis on March 8, 2006 at 10:05 AM | PERMALINK

Pete Biondi is a gay, racist, hang-gliding space alien.

I do not hang glide!

Posted by: Pete Biondi on March 8, 2006 at 10:14 AM | PERMALINK

now i know why my parents moved from jersey

back tract the ip bitch

Posted by: Anonymous on March 8, 2006 at 10:44 AM | PERMALINK

But, Tony tells all the wise guys at the Bada Bing to post under anonymous. Jerry G thought "Anonymous" was the new pole dancer. Had a lot of typos.

Posted by: stupid git on March 8, 2006 at 11:03 AM | PERMALINK

Jeffrey Davis: An anonymous opinion is a meaningless opinion.

Yeah, the anonymous writers of the Federalist Papers were utterly ineffective.

The Constitution of the United States was never adopted.

That's the ticket.

Sell it, baby!


Posted by: Advocate for God on March 8, 2006 at 11:03 AM | PERMALINK

Wow, cmdicely really got me! A zinger about my "blog name", and a typical attempt to misrepresent what I'm objecting to. Of course, the reader who's able to think and follow links probably won't trust what cmdicely says in the future.

Posted by: TLB on March 8, 2006 at 11:37 AM | PERMALINK

Tomato Lettuce & Bacon:

group of illegal aliens and supporters of illegal immigration are planning a large march in Chicago on Friday, March 10 . . .

[The referenced web] page explains that they want to legalize "undocumented immigrants".

Clue (for someone who needs it): Wanting to make something legal is not supporting illegal samething.

Thus, your second paragraph refutes your first.

E.g., wanting to repeal the laws against marijuana is not support for the illegal use of marijuana, but just the opposite, since once the law is changed it will no longer be an illegal that will be supported.

Now, you might claim taht wanting to repeal the laws against marijuana is support for something immoral, but it cannot be support for something illegal.

See, I followed the link, and beyond, and I still trust cmdicely.

Imagine that.

Posted by: Advocate for God on March 8, 2006 at 12:59 PM | PERMALINK

Where would this leave all the RW trolls?

Posted by: Dabodius on March 8, 2006 at 2:25 PM | PERMALINK

"Where would this leave all the RW trolls?"

The left wings

Posted by: Mason on March 8, 2006 at 6:38 PM | PERMALINK

Bush was ahead of the curve. All that secret government activity ( spying on Americans) was just to aid the forces of law and order in their effort to smackdown reckless jabber polluting the nets.
( That makes as much sense as the other revisionist history spewed out by the media parrots. )
Isn't America wonderful ?
( Must be. Otherwise illegal outhouse activity would have enraged Congress into protecting their turf.)

Posted by: opit on March 8, 2006 at 11:54 PM | PERMALINK




 

 

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