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April 5, 2006
By: Kevin Drum

McCAIN AND THE BASE....Jon Stewart grilled John McCain last night about McCain's recent efforts to cozy up to Jerry Falwell and demonstrated that sometimes fake journalists do their jobs better than real ones. He pressed McCain harder than Tim Russert did last Sunday and got McCain flustered enough that he finally ran out of ways to defend himself. Here's their closing exchange:

Stewart: You're not freaking out on us? Are you freaking out on us? Because if you're freaking out and you're going into the crazy base world are you going into crazy base world?

McCain: I'm afraid so.

I'm sure McCain and his supporters will try to pass this off as just a joke, suitable for Jon Stewart and late night TV. But it was no joke. McCain ran out of ways to dodge the question and finally just blurted out the truth. It wasn't pretty.

On the other hand, McCain is plenty smart to do all this stuff now, when no one is really paying attention. By the time the 2008 presidential race really starts up, this stuff will be long forgotten. He may not be the straight talker he likes to portray himself as, but he's a shrewd politician.

UPDATE: Crooks & Liars has the video here.

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But it was no joke.

I certainly hope it was no joke. But, really, the entire program is a joke. That's why it's called "fake". You can't pick it apart and say "fake", "fake", "not fake", "fake", "not fake".

Posted by: Al on April 5, 2006 at 12:27 PM | PERMALINK

Because it's impossible for it to be partly serious and partly a joke, right? It's either all or nothing. Al, that's called a "false dilemma."

Posted by: Jeremy on April 5, 2006 at 12:30 PM | PERMALINK

You can't pick it apart and say "fake", "fake", "not fake", "fake", "not fake".

Well, I have no doubt that the people represented by the fake Al can't make that distinction. People with an intelligence level greater than 35, on the other hand, can probably see the difference.

Posted by: Vladi G on April 5, 2006 at 12:31 PM | PERMALINK

I'm going to make a prediction now: McCain's reputation as a "maverick" and a "straight talker" will survive intact, and he will be the next president.

That may not be so bad. Let another Republican clean up George's mess.

Posted by: Alek Hidell on April 5, 2006 at 12:32 PM | PERMALINK

That's why we have Tivo. It will be back, don't worry.

Posted by: moe99 on April 5, 2006 at 12:33 PM | PERMALINK

Kevin: I know you think McCain is a con man, but he does undermine one of the Republicans' most sacred pillars: keep the bribe moolah flowing. Maybe he only wants to slow it down some, but that's a lot for someone in his party (and even the Dems).

It's too bad that Stewart gets heavy on McCain but gets all kissy-face with horrible people like Bill O'Reilly; maybe Stewart's a little bit of a sissy because he knows McCain will be civil, but O'Reilly will come back at him twice as hard.

Posted by: Uli Kunkel on April 5, 2006 at 12:33 PM | PERMALINK

yes, the show's a joke. but the interviews are real- kind of like the back pages of The Onion.

Posted by: Alan on April 5, 2006 at 12:33 PM | PERMALINK

Stewart will continue to help McCain, though. Luckily.

And Al is right -- a show on Comedy Central is a joke. Unlike the White House, which is pure, honest, and competent.

Posted by: Freedom Phukher on April 5, 2006 at 12:33 PM | PERMALINK

So how is this any different from the Dems cozing up to the NAACP, NOW, and the GLAAD gangs?

Posted by: Freedom Fighter on April 5, 2006 at 12:34 PM | PERMALINK

Competent trolls please!

Posted by: David in NY on April 5, 2006 at 12:36 PM | PERMALINK

One of the executive producers for the Daily Show and the Cobert Report was on Fresh Air list night. The best thing I got hear was Stewart doing a mock interview with Gov. Bush and Pres. Bush on foreign policy with clips from the 2000 campaign and post Iraq invasion. It was hilarious and, of course, pathetic at the same time as he complete contradicted himself about how the U.S. should position itself in the world ("Not be arrogant") and about nation building.

You've got to wonder why the Democratic "brain trust" couldn't have come up with the same thing during the 2004 campaign, particularly after the Rethugs began accussing Kerry of being a flip-flopper. It would have come to, at most, a two minute piece, and probably would done more to sway voters than any of the overwrought pieces thought up by MoveOn and others.

Again, the Daily Show proves to be the best political journalism available on television.

Posted by: Jeff II on April 5, 2006 at 12:36 PM | PERMALINK

"It's too bad that Stewart gets heavy on McCain but gets all kissy-face with horrible people like Bill O'Reilly; maybe Stewart's a little bit of a sissy because he knows McCain will be civil, but O'Reilly will come back at him twice as hard."

That's pretty typical of liberals. It's easy to pick on Christians who don't fight back, but how many liberals are brave enough to make fun of Islam?

Posted by: Freedom Fighter on April 5, 2006 at 12:38 PM | PERMALINK

Each time I see McCain, he comes across more and more as a tired old man, who is losing his rhetorical focus. The jokes are strianed and his answers are sloppy. Granted, The Daily Show isn't the typical environment, but he looks and sounds this way everywhere.

If this keeps up, he's going to be a shell of a man by 2008. And at his age, I doubt he has the strength to turn it around.

Posted by: PapaJijo on April 5, 2006 at 12:38 PM | PERMALINK

I took it as a joke, but Stewart made mincemeat of McCain just the same. I loved, "Has the McCain Straight-Talk Express been rerouted through Bullshit Town?"

Jeff II, wish I'd heard that Fresh Air piece.

Posted by: shortstop on April 5, 2006 at 12:41 PM | PERMALINK

gaffe n. (gaf) : a clumsy social mistake or breach of etiquette, e.g. an insensitive remark.

"A gaffe is when a politician tells the truth."
- Michael Kinsley

Posted by: Bruce the Canuck on April 5, 2006 at 12:41 PM | PERMALINK

It's crazy base world, inhabited by posters like 'tj' here who claimed (in a posting below, the one that because I'm gay and a parent, he knows I'm having sex with my kids. (In the 'Harry Reid" thread below..) Ick. That's his pathology that he jumps to this assumption..
Crazy base world, where Hillary is a murderer, and Laura never committed vehicular manslaughter; where evolution is agains God; where creepy libruls are gonna take yer guns and masculinity; where invading countries is OK,if, like a global concealed carry law, you discern some 'threat', where the majority religion in this country is being warred upon, where there are no moderate to liberal Moslems...
And I'm gonna retire to Bedlam...

Posted by: Mr. Bill on April 5, 2006 at 12:43 PM | PERMALINK

"That's pretty typical of liberals. It's easy to pick on Christians who don't fight back, but how many liberals are brave enough to make fun of Islam?" Posted by: Freedom Fighter on April 5, 2006 at 12:38 PM

See David in NY's post above.

Posted by: Uli Kunkel on April 5, 2006 at 12:43 PM | PERMALINK

When McCain was on Meet the Press he told Russert that he has never, never, in his 26 years in the Senate ever voted for a tax increase.

Think about that.

In the last twenty six years as Senator the government he helps manage has never, according to McCain, done anything for Arizona or for America that he found worth paying for. Yet he has, I believe, voted for every single increase in the debt ceiling. This has allowed him to receive his regularly scheduled pay raises with money borrowed from the communist Chinese. Money that he never intends to pay a cent back himself, instead he will leave his obligation to be paid back by my child.

What am I to think of such a man?

Posted by: ken on April 5, 2006 at 12:44 PM | PERMALINK

It was a joke, but the reason he made a joke there is that he had no real answer other than "I'm pandering to my base."

His explanation for speaking at Falwell's university? "I speak at lots of universities!" Pathetic.

So much for the Straight Talk Express.

Posted by: Royko on April 5, 2006 at 12:47 PM | PERMALINK

The whole McCain segment was interesting. Stewart did a rather harsh takedown of McCain's current sellout -- and then introduced McCain, who obviously knew what was coming and showed up anyway. That is rare these days; unless big time politicos know they will be treated with kid gloves, you don't get a chance to ask them questions. I think Stewart did his job; he can at least occasionally pull this stuff off when no "serious" journaist can. McCain, aside from the concession that Kevin quotes, which he probably should have avoided, handled it about as well as he could have.

Posted by: Ken on April 5, 2006 at 12:48 PM | PERMALINK

Ain't he over seventy? He's the last thing we need after the Bush disaster. Even Reagan was only 69 when he got elected and he quickly became a dottering figure head. Also, is no one concerned about the Manchurian Candidate aspect of his background?

Posted by: Matthew on April 5, 2006 at 12:49 PM | PERMALINK

"It's easy to pick on Christians who don't fight back"

It's fun, too.

Posted by: Vladi G on April 5, 2006 at 12:49 PM | PERMALINK

"It's easy to pick on Christians who don't fight back"

I have yet, despite Jesus' injunction to 'turn the other cheek', to meet a professing Christian who actually practiced non-retribution. When I tried it in Middle School, I got my ass kicked.

Posted by: Mr. Bill on April 5, 2006 at 12:56 PM | PERMALINK

Kevin Drum:

By the time the 2008 presidential race really starts up, this stuff will be long forgotten.

No worries, Kev; we'll be here to remind people of the stuff that journalists outside of the blogosphere forget or neglect to mention...

Jeff II on April 5, 2006 at 12:36 PM:

Again, the Daily Show proves to be the best political journalism available on television.

Olbermann's not too bad, either. His frequent skewering of O'Reilly cracks me up...

Posted by: grape_crush on April 5, 2006 at 1:01 PM | PERMALINK

Matthew-I'm no fan of Mcain, but the "Manchurian Candidate aspect of his background" is a silly distraction. it's karl Rove thinking at best & not a serious reason to oppose him. His politics and recent pandering supply plenty of that.

Posted by: URK on April 5, 2006 at 1:08 PM | PERMALINK

I actually wasn't sure the media whore understood the question. Someone should rephrase and ask it again. . .
"Mr. McCain, on The Daily Show you said you were attempting to appease lunatics on the far right in order to gain needed support from the base in the 2008 Republican presidential primaries. Do you think you deserve to have an image as a straight talking politician when you are apparently willing to say whatever is needed by the political circumstance?"

Posted by: toast on April 5, 2006 at 1:31 PM | PERMALINK

I thought McCain started out well last night -- jokingly echoing the Cynthia McKinney line Jon had covered earlier was a clever tactic -- but he crumbled as the interview went on, and his sign-off was really dreadful.

It struck me that maybe McCain has become too used to the fawning, unquestioning treatment he generally gets from TV journalists ("Thanks for the straight talk, Senator McCain"). He certainly doesn't, right now, have the gift for spin that would allow him to deflect serious questioning about an obvious pander like this trip to Liberty U. If he's going to continue making concessions like this to the rabid GOP base, he'd better find a way to talk about them that isn't so transparent. Those people, like Stewart, who view him as a no-bullshit guy (however unearned that reputation may be) can turn viciously if they decide they've been played.

Posted by: demtom on April 5, 2006 at 1:35 PM | PERMALINK

If genuflecting to Falwell is any indication, McCain's "maverick" rep is going to be in tatters by '08.

Posted by: sglover on April 5, 2006 at 3:05 PM | PERMALINK

As a member in good standing of the "crazy world base," I can safely say that McCain will not be the GOP Nominee in 08. First, he's too old. Second, he's a sitting Senator and we all know successful they are when running for President. Third, his positions on taxes, campaign finance and now, amnesty for illegals despised by the base. Fourth, he's not trusted by us crazies to make the right appointments to the Supreme Court and the rest of the federal bench. (While undeniably pro-life, he has said that the Court should not overturn Roe).

The only thing in his favor is his supposed "electibility," which I believe is a crock (Ask Senator Kerry). Given the current electoral layout of the country, the GOP has the advantage over the Dems. This will only increase after reapportionment following the 2010 census. Therefore, any GOP nominee would be favored over the Dems, especially if Hillary is your "guy" in 08. As time goes by, so will McCain's presidental run.

Posted by: Chicounsel on April 5, 2006 at 3:08 PM | PERMALINK

ALL YOUR CRAZY BASE WORLD ARE BELONG TO US!!!

Posted by: rigel on April 5, 2006 at 3:15 PM | PERMALINK

I enjoyed the Jon Stewart interview -- I always enjoy Jon Stewart interviews -- but I don't think McCain came off nearly as badly as others suggest that he did. I actually think the Russert interview was worse for McCain, because the clips of McCain's past statements were far more damning than the interview itself.

Anyway, my two cents. This clip didn't even come close to Stewart's dismantling of Tucker Carlson. Now that was a hallowed moment in television.

Posted by: Adam S. on April 5, 2006 at 3:24 PM | PERMALINK

Followed the link- read the transcript. (Yawn)

I sure hoped it looked better on video ( with Stewart's trademark facial expressions to amuse his minions ) because it sure was a boring read. Didn't seem like Stewart scored any points unless you already are a closed minded liberal.

This post reminded me of the time I saw Falwell speak at UCLA in the 80's. There were the typical loud immature liberals trying to ask obnoxious questions and/or take away Falwell's freedom of speech ( yes even back then the UCLA was one of those places where only freedom of the correct speech was to be tolerated.)

The only thing I particularly remember is the comment Falwell made how that Ted Kennedy was received with much more respect at Liberty College than Falwell was received at UCLA - but I guess you don't have to be respectful of others if your so smart like the liberal students who hooted and booed.

Had an interesting exchange with a female lib as she was leaving the auditorium. She remarked to her friend "That guy {Falwell] scares me so much!"

Me being the inquisitive type asked her, "What particular thing that he said was so scary to you?"

Her intelligent, thoughtful reply was "I don't want to talk to you either."

But I guess you don't need to be able to answer with specifics when everyone agrees that Falwell is scary.

I bring it up because this is similar to some of the thoughtless responses I get from the smart alecks on this board. Please note, those who respond to me with the understanding that one can be both intelligent and conservative are excluded from the above critique or comparison. You more respectful types usually have good thought provoking points and I appreciate them.

Posted by: John Hansen on April 5, 2006 at 3:27 PM | PERMALINK

Can someone explain the basis for John McCain's supposed appeal?

How did he acquire the reputation for (mix and match) "straight talker", "moderate", "reformer", "independent", . . . . .?

What is there about him that is not clearly 100% opportunistic?

Posted by: JB (not John Bolton) on April 5, 2006 at 3:30 PM | PERMALINK

Chicounsel, I agree with you on a few points: all McCain's feints to the base could win him little (and cost him with his more natural constiituency); and the whole "electable" thing is given far too much weight by political analysts (Reagan and Clinton were both deemed unelectable well into their winning years, while people like Dole and even, at one point, Dukakis were considered "sensible" choices).

But I don't see how you and other Republicans can make the claim that the electoral environment somehow "favors" the GOP. Bush's 2004 victory, though small enough in the popular vote (2.5%), was miniscule in electoral terms -- 286; a total whose low-ness was matched in recent years only by...himself, in 2000. (And easily topped by Clinton's 370 and 379) I'd say, if anything, the electoral map skews AGAINST Republicans -- they roll up the score in the South and mountain West, but the Dems easily offset that with merely California, Illinois, New York and New England (which they'll win into perpetuity just as the GOP will Alabama and Idaho). A Democrat with a 2.5% victory margin would almost certainly have carried all the Kerry states, plus New Mexico, Ohio, probably Florida -- which would put him about a comfortable 320. I simply see no institutional advantage for Republicans, and am baffled at the belief such a thing exists.

Posted by: demtom on April 5, 2006 at 3:31 PM | PERMALINK

He pressed McCain harder than Tim Russert did last Sunday

Wow! Now that would be hard to do!

Or not.

Posted by: G. Jones on April 5, 2006 at 3:42 PM | PERMALINK

No, he's effectively finished and the party will not let him run. He's physically tired now, he won't even want to get out of bed around 2008.

The Rove style repubs won't necessarily be able to control him if he gets the presidency and they know they'll constantly be fighting with. I don't like him but he will attempt to govern. And the 'party' won't have it.

Posted by: TalkieToaster on April 5, 2006 at 3:51 PM | PERMALINK

That Fresh Air show:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5323008

Posted by: the fake Fake Al on April 5, 2006 at 3:56 PM | PERMALINK

Kevin, I really don't see this as being shrewd at all.

For one thing, it will do nothing for the crazy Republican base. McCain can hug all the right-wing wackos he wants to and it will be taken by the base as political pandering, like Kerry's hunting video. It may enable them to ultimately accept him as the party's nominee if they have no other choice but, let's face it, the wingnut part of the base has shown no aptitude for accepting anything less than absolute allegiance. They know they won't be getting that from McCain.

Meanwhile, whoever gets the Democratic nomination will be running that shot of McCain hugging Bush to death, and Falwell and whomever else McCain cozies up to.

How is this shrewd?

Posted by: brianinatlanta on April 5, 2006 at 4:08 PM | PERMALINK

For more background on how on the "Straight Talk Express" ran off the rails, see:
"The Prostitution of John McCain."

Posted by: AvengingAngel on April 5, 2006 at 4:10 PM | PERMALINK

To me, McCain apcomes out as very naive and, therefore, not of presidential timbre, because of his apparent conclusion that he can duplicate the 'success' of GWB by speaking at a racist college and pandering to Christian right just as Bush did.

Posted by: lib on April 5, 2006 at 4:41 PM | PERMALINK

Uli,
I think you are being too hard on Jon Stewart.
I am pretty sure that his stated policy is to be polite to all politicians. He is cruel to other members of the media, because his whole point is that all media coverage of politics is a pathetic joke. Stewart's target isn't McCain---it's all the media people who fawn over his "Straight talk express"

Posted by: marky on April 5, 2006 at 4:58 PM | PERMALINK

@John Hansen:

There are so many examples a critic of Falwell is spoiled for choice, but just to take one example almost everyone knows: Days after the September 11, 2001 attacks, Falwell (appearing, I think, on the 700 Club) blamed lesbians, gay men, feminists, and pro-choice Americans for bringing them on the country. Our evil ways, you see, had caused God to remove his protection from the U.S.

This is un-Christian, un-American, hateful bigotry. Also the unattractive spectacle of someone responding to the attacks as an ideologue pushing an agenda rather than as a human being.

There are lots of other examples of Falwell's extremism, but that one did it for many Americans for all time. His brand of Christianity has almost nothing to do with the message of Jesus Christ, and everything to do with increasing the power of Jerry Falwell and his projects.

Posted by: Nell on April 5, 2006 at 5:05 PM | PERMALINK

What I found disappointing was that the Daily Show's opening segment was on not just DeLay but also Cynthia McKinney--as though a minor representative's dust-up with the Capitol Cops is in any way equal to the most powerful man in Congress resigning in disgrace. They gave it the kind of "both parties are nuts!" treatment that's usually beneath them.

Republicans and DeLay must have been delighted, since they're inflating her story's importance for all they're worth.

McCain's an old man whose suit is draining out his pant-leg.

Posted by: pk on April 5, 2006 at 5:07 PM | PERMALINK

Nell

A sincere question - I am curious as to whether you are a Christian or not.

If you ask me why I ask that, I'd like to know where you are coming from before I comment on your comment.

Thanks

Posted by: John Hansen on April 5, 2006 at 5:36 PM | PERMALINK

Mc Cain dropped bombs on vietnamese farmers. his family's wealth came from arm and defense sales.

McCain is not a hero - he is a war criminal.

Iraq is not war. Iraq is murder. Iraq is money laundering. Iraq never did anything to harm the Amerika.

These are war crimes, and funny Jon will go out of his way to disparage Islam, Arabs and Persians. Does litlle girl Jon ever talk of Israel. No little Jon chewed foreskins like a good Rabanical assistant. And McCain, well McCain was Jonies' "little goy sambo" for a day.

Posted by: Cadavre on April 5, 2006 at 5:49 PM | PERMALINK

>

Heard of Albert Brooks?

Posted by: clb72 on April 5, 2006 at 5:59 PM | PERMALINK

"That's pretty typical of liberals. It's easy to pick on Christians who don't fight back, but how many liberals are brave enough to make fun of Islam?"

Heard of Albert Brooks?

Posted by: clb72 on April 5, 2006 at 6:00 PM | PERMALINK

The idea that religion and politics don't mix was invented by the Devil to keep Christians from running their own country.

-Rev. Jerry Falwell

Posted by: clb72 on April 5, 2006 at 6:20 PM | PERMALINK

I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way - all of them who have tried to secularize America - I point the finger in their face and say "you helped this happen."

-Jerry Falwell, 9/13/01

Posted by: clb72 on April 5, 2006 at 6:22 PM | PERMALINK

QUOTE:"That is rare these days; unless big time politicos know they will be treated with kid gloves, you don't get a chance to ask them questions.ENDQUOTE

When Tony Bair was running for re-election last year he faced some pretty hostile public questions and confrontations. He projected meekness and contrition, spoke modestly ... and with the understanding that he'd be resigning the PM spot within a few months -- lead the Thacherite New Labor Party to victory.

As for McCain ... I saw the show, and frankly the Sky Pirate certainly looked and sounded like he was brazening out a shameful revelation.

Hopefully, he'll GET the Repugnican nomination.

Posted by: Mitch Kessler on April 5, 2006 at 6:48 PM | PERMALINK

McCain has always made me uncomfortable........his is too smooth to be true! That quiet voice and the way he seems to just accept it when people make like he is some kind of walk on water person. He has feet of clay just like the rest of us!!!

Posted by: jan on April 5, 2006 at 7:25 PM | PERMALINK

'easy to pick on Christians who don't fight back'

It is not my fault your holy man tells you to turn the other cheek and blessed are the peacemakers.
Blame Jesus when I kick your ass.

PS - you will afterall get your reward in heaven

Posted by: Ganesh on April 5, 2006 at 8:03 PM | PERMALINK

A Democrat with a 2.5% victory margin would almost certainly have carried all the Kerry states, plus New Mexico, Ohio, probably Florida -- which would put him about a comfortable 320. I simply see no institutional advantage for Republicans, and am baffled at the belief such a thing exists.

The Dems will need more than 2.5% to get Florida unless the Democratic candidate is southern or authentically non-liberal. The GOP advantage is the southern states are voting as a block and continue to trend more conservative as they pick up more electoral votes. The Northern states of IL, MI and NY are certain to lose electoral votes, as many as 5 or 6. These will be picked up by solid red states.

It's also a fact that younger voters are less likely to start out as liberal as in prior generations and significant democratic special interest groups are falling behind. The unions will have a many as 25% fewer members since 2000 and will most certainly be more fractured. It's also true the generation growing up idolizing FDR and voting religiously democratic is almost gone. It's also a fact blacks have peaked as a percentage of the total population and in another decade will start to decline.

Another huge shift for the GOP is the emergence of the alternative media. CBS just named Katie Couric to replace Dan Rather in a clear signal network news is now much less about hard news and more about entertainment. The MSM is still a driving force but far from a monopoly
and as we saw in both 2000 and 2004 capable of hurting the Democrats more than helping. The development of FoxNews, talk Radio and the internet is a powerful force greatly assisting the GOP. In my home state of PA voters will be constantly reminded that Bob Casey is a noshow as state treasurer and very much against abortion rights while Ed Rendell immediately raised income taxes but never lowered property taxes as promised.

The GOP still has to run smart campaigns and recruit sharp, attractive candidates but the country is clearly becoming more conservative. Plus we're not going to see any more Dan Rather style hachet jobs. Time is on the GOP side.

Posted by: rdw on April 5, 2006 at 8:45 PM | PERMALINK

Well he is crazy you know, and his wife is a junkie with a black kid. Or is it his black kid? Lucky for him, the Repub base has short memories.

Posted by: merlallen on April 6, 2006 at 12:43 AM | PERMALINK

I can't think of a Republican I would be more comfortable with as nominee than McCain, and very few Democrats. I don't think that this interview hurts him at all.

He's appearing on the Daily Show so that he can send two messages. He knows that the viewers of the Daily Show are young and liberal, and he's sending a pretty clear signal that yes, he's pandering, but you do what you've got to do to get the nomination, and then he can turn around and say something else to the Republicans.

His whole 'supporting our President' spiel was about as false as it gets, but who cares? There's never going to be an honest man in the White House. Can't we at least get one who means well?

Posted by: Leoniceno on April 6, 2006 at 1:48 AM | PERMALINK

McCain's claim to fame is that he got himself captured and when tortured, spilled. The flashbacks apparently haunt him still. Since the 2000 race, he just keeps on surrendering and kissing the asses of his torturers (Bush, Falwell, etc), who continue to torture him (consider Bush's signing statement on McCain's anti-torture bill).

I do think McCain or Giuliani will be the GOP nominee, but I doubt the public will fall for the "I'm fun to be around" type of candidate after two elections in a row choosing a swell guy a Prez.

McCain is all surrender and no fight, and a comedian in the Jerry Lewis mold. President? Only of France.

Posted by: Kevin Hayden on April 6, 2006 at 2:22 AM | PERMALINK

Well, McCain's always been a bit of a nut case. Alas. Check out this report from Slate, which details McCain's efforts to censor cable sports (of all things).

Point the second: McCain may or may not win the GOP nomination. But it's extremely unlikely he'll win the Presidency, at least if past performance is any measure. The most recent Senator to get directly elected President was JFK -- and you can write your own Lloyd Bentsen joke here. (By the way, this also applies to Hillary Clinton, Bill Frist, Joe Biden, and all the other meaningless Senate wannabees.) The number of Senators who have failed to be elected President, on the other hand, is quite large. Contrast that to governors, who have won 6 of the last 8 times (which tells you what I think of 2000, but hey).

Of Arizona public figures, Janet Napolitano is a hell of a lot more statistically likely to be the next President than McCain is (or Clinton).

Posted by: Hal O'Brien on April 6, 2006 at 3:24 AM | PERMALINK

"We're really in nut country now," JFK said after arriving in Texas and seeing an "Impeach Earl Warren" sign, November 1963.

Posted by: Red on April 6, 2006 at 11:01 AM | PERMALINK

Freedom Fighter:
That's pretty typical of liberals. It's easy to pick on Christians who don't fight back, but how many liberals are brave enough to make fun of Islam?

What the heck are you trying to say FF? Seriously..... the liberals pick on Christians and not the Muslims? Liberals love Christians. Favorite passtime. Muslims are just the gravy on the turkey. The turkey being, well, guess.....

Posted by: AC on April 7, 2006 at 1:29 AM | PERMALINK

The whole Falwell thing is really funny. I mean, he is a power monster and a disgrace as a human being.
There are some mighty myopic liberals out there. I dropped out of university once on account of the rampant and annoying liberalism of many classmates. This does not make conservatives good and liberals bad, but that seems the new America.
By the way, the Bush administration has been the most disgraceful conservative administration in history. Fiscal irresponsibility, rampant in Bush's presidency, is anathema to a true conservative.
America's conservatives do not even know what it means to be a conservative anymore.

Posted by: MJS on April 7, 2006 at 7:44 PM | PERMALINK

Mike Furir Mike 388

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