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April 15, 2006
By: Kevin Drum

MALKINITIS....The thing that's always impressed me about Michelle Malkin is not her unhinged but ultimately fairly commonplace right wing looniness, but rather her keen eye for manufacturing outrage over the most obscure topics imaginable. A few weeks ago, for example, it was outrage over a student council debate about a statue at the University of Washington. Today it's outrage over a recent piece of standard-issue pabulum from Los Angeles mayor Antonio Villaraigosa:

Many law-abiding L.A. residents who clean their own toilets took umbrage at Villaraigosa's McCain-like contempt for self-reliant Americans and his us-vs.-them militancy.

"Law-abiding L.A. residents who clean their own toilets"? What's that all about? Unsurprisingly, it turns out to be inspired by the latest rant from local talk radio idiots John and Ken, but you'll have to click the link if you insist on finding out more.

And yes, as usual, there's a whole "campaign" associated with this.

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How do they even FIND these things? How big is their corps of web-trawlers that look for non-existent controversies?

Posted by: MNPundit on April 15, 2006 at 1:29 PM | PERMALINK

Your mocking of Michelle Malkin won't work Kevin. Bigot Antonio Villaraigosa is now attacking all Americans because foreigners like Antonio Villaraigosa and other Mexican criminals have invaded our country and are cleaning toilets. But foreigner Antonio Villaraigosa isn't giving me special rights just because I have also cleaned toilets. To protest his bigotry me and other conservatives are going to send toilet brushes to him. Any one who agrees with me can send it to his address at

Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa
200 North Spring Street, Room 303
Los Angeles, CA 90012.

Let the toilet brush wars begin!

Posted by: Al on April 15, 2006 at 1:35 PM | PERMALINK

You think she'd start a campaign against self-embarrassment.

Posted by: TomStewart on April 15, 2006 at 1:37 PM | PERMALINK

Well, is IS a mystery why Michelle Malkin, of all peple, is getting lathered up over remarks about "toilet-cleaning": after all, from most wingers' viewpoint (and, I'm sure, her own), Ms. Malkin's - erm- fecal matter - doesn't stink. Far from it: it seems to be a commodity quite in demand - though published, rather than flushed.

Posted by: Jay C on April 15, 2006 at 1:40 PM | PERMALINK

Most of us saw that Malkin has been circling the toilet bowl for years.

Posted by: Joel on April 15, 2006 at 1:44 PM | PERMALINK

How do they even FIND these things? How big is their corps of web-trawlers that look for non-existent controversies?

It's probably the same information service the newspapers use to find inane things to blow up into controversies.

Posted by: tbrosz on April 15, 2006 at 1:45 PM | PERMALINK

I would suspect that the Mexican illegal immigrants are engaged in toilet cleaning more because of their dire economic condition than due to their personal preference for such jobs.

Posted by: tbrosz on April 15, 2006 at 1:45 PM | PERMALINK

I check Michelle Malkin's blog every day. I like her blog.

Odd to hear Mr One-Thousand-Valerie-Plame-Posts-And-Counting accuse somebody else of "looniness."

And speaking of "manufactured outrage," isn't Drum one of the goofballs who was posting about conspiracy theories about Dick Cheney's hunting accident?

Posted by: Frequency Kenneth on April 15, 2006 at 1:47 PM | PERMALINK

Tbrosz: Yes, but it was the British press that blew that up.....

Posted by: Kevin Drum on April 15, 2006 at 1:47 PM | PERMALINK

Self cleaning toilets?
Clean the toilet bowl after every use?
Etiquette in the public restroom?
An epidemic of salmonilla?

Do I have to read the article?

Posted by: Matt on April 15, 2006 at 1:52 PM | PERMALINK

It's a blog, for goodness' sake! Somedays it covers minor issues (like inane comments from local politicians), somedays it covers more serious issues that make lefties so uncomfortable they won't mention them (like how the major media have submitted almost totally to Islamic censorship).

Kevin, be a man. You make fun of creationists all the time, because you know they won't hit back. Print a cartoon of Mohammed, unless you're scared or your corporate masters forbid it.

Posted by: y81 on April 15, 2006 at 1:55 PM | PERMALINK

Yikes, at last a campaign that wingnuts can really get into.

So tired, so very very tired.

Posted by: Buck on April 15, 2006 at 2:00 PM | PERMALINK

"Villaraigosa"

That name is the problem. I have grown up with true red, white and blue Mexicans out west, and I tell you they are all named Gonzales, Garcia or Lopez. This guy is an illegal.

Most of them had good toiletry habits.

Posted by: Matt on April 15, 2006 at 2:03 PM | PERMALINK

Unsurprisingly, it turns out to be inspired by the latest rant from local talk radio idiots John and Ken

And I had thought her head was a self-contained echo chamber.

I'm going back to reading about that cat in NYC. There's a story that deserves more coverage. I can just feel the tension in the latest AP update.

Posted by: toast on April 15, 2006 at 2:04 PM | PERMALINK


TBROSZ: It's probably the same information service the newspapers use to find inane things to blow up into controversies.

As I'm only marginally fonder of most newspaper reports than I am of Malkin's tripe, I hesitate to defend them. But it should be noted that in the Tiger Woods matter, they were merely reporting the (mostly foreign) outrage of others, not manufacturing or encouraging it.


Posted by: jayarbee on April 15, 2006 at 2:09 PM | PERMALINK

At least Kevin's 1,000 posts on Valerie Plame didn't kill 100,000 Iraqis!

Posted by: craigie on April 15, 2006 at 2:14 PM | PERMALINK

He is complaining about the quality of toilet brushes, that's the ticket. I went to check mine, and all the bristles seem to be there, but then I have bad toiletry habits.

I walk walk around the neighborhood, and ask everyone if I could inspect their toilet bowls and their toilet brushes and get back to you.

Who is the leading manufacture? There are 94 suppliers from 9 countries for toilet brushes and associated toilet cleaning equipment. Perhaps there is a monopoly, a capitalist conspiracy.

Posted by: Matt on April 15, 2006 at 2:20 PM | PERMALINK

I suspect that none of you true-believing progressives think that having people take off their clothes to protest the war falls into the same category of silly, inane, idiotic protest.

But I agree with y81, above, on two things: first, blogs sometimes go on-and-on about silly things. It's the nature of blogging, and part of what makes them more interesting.

And second, it's easy to mock conservatives, evangelicals, Catholics, Jews, southerners, etc. on a liberal blog, because you know, up front, that none of these people are going to behead you.

Posted by: Steve White on April 15, 2006 at 2:24 PM | PERMALINK

slow day on the internets today, eh?

Posted by: supersaurus on April 15, 2006 at 2:24 PM | PERMALINK

At least Malkin has not proposed internment camps for the toilet cleaners coming from Mexico. Or may be she has, as I have not ever read her rants. Just the title of her first book and a hint as to its main thesis are repulsive enough for me.

Posted by: lib on April 15, 2006 at 2:24 PM | PERMALINK

OK, if blogs get advertising money based off traffic, why do liberal blogs ever link to them? Doesn't that help keep them in business?

Posted by: gq on April 15, 2006 at 2:34 PM | PERMALINK

I remember when John and Ken mocked people in line to receive aid after the Northridge Quake.

LA Radio is asinine? Dog bites man?

"Fry the Menendii!"

Ah those were the days.

Posted by: IOKIYAR on April 15, 2006 at 2:34 PM | PERMALINK

Kevin normally is a serious, reasonable and honest fellows, but he lowers himself with accusations about "unhinged" and "right wing looniness" against Malkin.

Malkin is a bright and often interesting writer. Her crime is that she is a minority woman with conservative views. Her minority status results in expecially harsh criticims from lefties. It seems pretty obvious, and reflects very poorly on the left, which if they lose their grip on minority voting, will fall into a hopelessly weak electoral position for the foreseeable future.

Posted by: brian on April 15, 2006 at 2:37 PM | PERMALINK

Just checked Michelle Malkin's blog, 11:25 PST.

She has a post about a restaurant that serves no-charge steak dinners to Vets. Interesting photo and links.

Funny, Kevin Drum didn't mention this in his snarky post from this morning. But that wouldn't his his pre-conceived notions about Malkin, huh!?

Posted by: Paddy Whack on April 15, 2006 at 2:38 PM | PERMALINK

If we had a foreign subsidy for toilet cleaning compulsives they ouldn't all be coming here to find toilets.

Posted by: Matt on April 15, 2006 at 2:50 PM | PERMALINK

"Impressed"?

Posted by: dick tuck on April 15, 2006 at 2:57 PM | PERMALINK

Paddy prompted me to read Malkin's blog. The post criticized by Kevin was a reasonable argument about what she called a "divisive" speech by the mayor and a resulting campaign by otheres (not Malkin) againt what he said -- she even took the step of criticizing conservative McCain for the same type of comments.

Malkin's post is an example of an intelligent and interesting expression of her viewpoint. Kevin picking this as an example of unhinged looniness is far off the mark. I just read the first three posts by Malkin. Anyone honstly giving it a fair read would not agree with Kevin's attack.

Posted by: brian on April 15, 2006 at 2:59 PM | PERMALINK

Malkin is a bright and often interesting writer

Hmmm, often interesting, as in not quite always interesting, but she'll suffice if Man Coulter is in the bathroom vomiting up her lunch?

Posted by: Plastic Turkey on April 15, 2006 at 3:01 PM | PERMALINK
Kevin normally is a serious, reasonable and honest fellows, but he lowers himself with accusations about "unhinged" and "right wing looniness" against Malkin.

Of course, the thrust of his post was not to talk about these particular Malkin qualities.

Her crime is that she is a minority woman with conservative views.

Oh yes, you've nailed us, and we're utterly consumed by liberal guilt over it. Not.

By the way, Fisher and Phillips looks like quite a law firm: helping employers squelch unions and fight discrimination claims must be a sweet paycheck. Nothing like doing well by doing good, eh?

Posted by: Ken C. on April 15, 2006 at 3:02 PM | PERMALINK

Kevin:

Yes, but it was the British press that blew that up.....

I'm busy today, and only had time to go back a few days. I'm sure there are plenty of examples of the U.S. media making a Tibetan Plateau out of a molehill.

Posted by: tbrosz on April 15, 2006 at 3:07 PM | PERMALINK

Having listened to John and Ken periodically over the last six years, and noting their particularly abusive strain of rightwing talkradio, I don't understand why some enterprising immigrant groups haven't targeted their home addresses for some interesting bullhorn action. A little taste of their own medicine would be delightful to watch (and participate in).

Perhaps someone should start tracking who exactly is mowing John and Ken's lawns. Doing a quick google search, I was able to identify one of their home addresses.

Posted by: Dr, Sniff on April 15, 2006 at 3:07 PM | PERMALINK

Malkinitis (mal-kin'-i-tis) n.

1. Corporate media's tendency to consider the lurid ravings of right-wing commentators as fair, balanced, and worthy of broadcast.

2. Left-blogistan's tendency to regard the lurid ravings of right-wing commentators as worthy fodder for discussion.

3. slang: An unhygenic mind [w. illusion to dirty water eddying in a typical gasoline station toilet].

Posted by: koreyel on April 15, 2006 at 3:07 PM | PERMALINK

Those of you who think Ms. Malkin to be 'unhinged' probably consider Jane Hamsher to be the voice of sweet reason.

Ms. Hamsher and the entire FireDogLake crew would fit my definition of 'unhinged', but that's just me.

I am relieved, however, that Ms. Hamsher no longer works in the U.S. District Attorney's office. The notion of her dispensing 'justice' gives me cold chills.

Posted by: Steve White on April 15, 2006 at 3:15 PM | PERMALINK

The Malkin post looks fairly innocuous to me. All she is doing is reporting on a controversy. Her post is much more mild than Kevin's.

Posted by: Ben on April 15, 2006 at 3:18 PM | PERMALINK

I'm SO not clicking on the link. I don't want Malkinitis on my computer.

Posted by: ogmb on April 15, 2006 at 3:21 PM | PERMALINK

Nationalize the toilet cleaning industry!

Kevin always returns to the old leftwing theme, they want government checks so they nationalize some poor industry.

This is a perfect example to start a socialist campaign, a campaign more important even than nationalizing the shoelace industry.

Every person who cleans a toilet will get a goverment check, say one dollar for each toilet. We could serialize the nation's toilets, and apply bar code technology to ensure against fraud. Spot toilet inspections by the Federal Toilet Police. Perhaps a cabinet position, Secretary of Toilets.


Posted by: Matt on April 15, 2006 at 3:32 PM | PERMALINK

Wow, are all right wing troll losers hanging out here today online? Got nothing better to do with your lives, or lack thereof? Very telling, while most posters go about their Sat business, the usual bitter aging baby boomers are out in force defending their banana boat centerfold Michele Malaganngangalalnangaganag

How cute.

Posted by: Mosh Pit on April 15, 2006 at 3:38 PM | PERMALINK

Not that I like Michelle Malkin, but I get what she's referring to there. People who argue in favor of legalizing illegal immigrants always argue that they do jobs Americans won't do, like do the laundry, cut the lawn, wash the dishes, and, I assume, scrub the toilets. In fact, millions of Americans do these tasks themselves. Personally, I think she would have sounded more effective if she'd said "cut their own lawns," but then again, she is a right wing loon.

Posted by: wilder on April 15, 2006 at 3:40 PM | PERMALINK

Malkin is a bright and often interesting writer

Malkin's post is an example of an intelligent and interesting expression of her viewpoint

I don't even get it. Is she misrepresenting the mayor's position to be that all toilets in LA are cleaned by illegals?

If she was serious she would be all for cracking down on Walmart, Safeway, USC, etc. and their janatorial subcontractors instead of initiating a campaign to enrich the Chinese toilet brush industry.

Posted by: toast on April 15, 2006 at 3:41 PM | PERMALINK

I would suspect that the Mexican illegal immigrants are engaged in toilet cleaning more because of their dire economic condition than due to their personal preference for such jobs.

Posted by: Greg on April 15, 2006 at 3:43 PM | PERMALINK

Now that I've read her entry, I'm baffled as to why Kevin would take offense. For Malkin to argue that Japanese internment was worthwhile is one thing, but here, she is making a perfectly reasonable argument that self-reliant Americans would take offense to being told that we are actually reliant on illegal immigrants to do the jobs that we have always done ourselves. Malkin has gotten credit when making arguments that mesh well with liberal arguments; why claim that she makes no sense in this case? Unless Kevin objects to her description of Villaraigosa as "open borders"; I see him as wishy-washy on the topic more than anything else.

Posted by: wilder on April 15, 2006 at 3:47 PM | PERMALINK

Ok, guys, while you're up to your armpits in toilet water, how about a few hankies for all our fellow Americans who are bleary eyed over tax forms. Obviously you guys got refunds.

Posted by: ELR on April 15, 2006 at 3:48 PM | PERMALINK

Okay, missed the last bit about her wanting people to send toilet brushes in protest. That is batshit crazy.

Posted by: wilder on April 15, 2006 at 3:49 PM | PERMALINK

Excuse me, but we are reliant on them. Here is what would change your mind--When and if that dreaded day comes when you have to watch your mother's last days slipping away surrounded by the constant care of hispanic angels. Those are the kind of life changing events that some on this board haven't experienced.

Posted by: ELR on April 15, 2006 at 3:54 PM | PERMALINK

Actually thanks for the link Kevin. Via the wonders of the trackback link you've provided us with a glimpse at the calibur of the national debate come November. Always sobering.

BTW, do wingnuts use public toilets?

Posted by: toast on April 15, 2006 at 3:59 PM | PERMALINK


MATT: Nationalize the toilet cleaning industry!

Kevin always returns to the old leftwing theme, they want government checks so they nationalize some poor industry.

This is a perfect example to start a socialist campaign, a campaign more important even than nationalizing the shoelace industry.

Every person who cleans a toilet will get a goverment check, say one dollar for each toilet. We could serialize the nation's toilets, and apply bar code technology to ensure against fraud. Spot toilet inspections by the Federal Toilet Police. Perhaps a cabinet position, Secretary of Toilets.



I'm just curious . . . do right-wingers find this funny? It's become a cliche to type LOL, but there are times when we read things online and actually do find ourselves laughing out loud. Is this one of those times for conservatives? For anyone?

I ask because I've often noticed how some will say that the left and right and just wired differently. I have generally thought that it's a minority who are badly wired, such as the leaders whose lack of conscience will allow them to lie in order to serve their own interests. So the average person who describes himself as consevative is really more like the average liberal than they are like their leaders, but they are deluded instead of being enlightened. But humor is quite universal. So maybe the "wired differently" theory has something to it after all. Any conservatives want to weigh in on this? Was Matt's toilet humor funny . . . even satirically? Would Malkin think so?


Posted by: jayarbee on April 15, 2006 at 4:04 PM | PERMALINK

I dislike Malkin because of a number of her views, but I don't feel good about the fact that so many people who dislike her as well seem to have racist reasons for doing so (the 'banana boat' reference), just as I don't like the fact that people who dislike Ann Coulter make transphobic remarks about her or mock eating disorders.

It's not a good thing when the people 'on your side' are apparently motivated by the sorts of justifications you'd rightfully deplore from the other side of the aisle.

Posted by: winna on April 15, 2006 at 4:04 PM | PERMALINK

Malkin is the epitomy of intelligence in the conservative blogosphere.

I wholeheartedly agree.

Posted by: nut on April 15, 2006 at 4:09 PM | PERMALINK

This afternoon on Wolf Blitzer, "A special Easter conversation with the Reverend Jerry Falwell."

Spoken in a tone of gentle reverence for our beloved Reverend.

Isn't that special?

Posted by: cld on April 15, 2006 at 4:11 PM | PERMALINK

Antonio Villaraigosa is clearly making the point that immigrants, illegal and otherwise, provide a great deal cheap labor in this country. This is quite obviously not a controversial point.

He is further arguing that because of this, their contribution ought to be recognized and respected in the context of the immigration debate. This should also not be a controversial point among rational people but unfortunately we know that it is. In fact, this is the real problem that Malkin and her ilk have with the mayor and with those arguing against the kind of draconian proposals the republicans are suggesting. Any attempt to humanize and put the illegal immigrants in our country in a reasonably sympathetic light in this debate will be met with this kind of nonsense by the right wing. It hurts their position when other people begin to think of illegal immigrants as human beings deserving of respect.

The fact is that noone seriously believes that the mayor thinks that every single American has their housework done by someone else, immigrant or otherwise. To apply this kind of hyper-litetalism to his comments and suggest that this is what he is trying to say is, at first glance, either incredibly stupid or psychotic. But what it really is is an incredibly dishonest tactic to shift the terms of the debate to some imagined slight of Angelinos. Give me a fucking break. How can sentient beings, whatever their position on immigration, even take this kind of shit seriously?

Posted by: brent on April 15, 2006 at 4:19 PM | PERMALINK

*hyper-literalism*

Posted by: brent on April 15, 2006 at 4:21 PM | PERMALINK

Hmm the idea with the toilet brushes isn't all bad. But what's wrong is sending all of them to Villaraigosa. He already got more than he'll ever need, I guess. Instead, those proud not-racist-but-anti-immigrant patriots should take their brushes to the next MacDonalds, Jack-in-the-box, Kentucky Fried Chicken or whatever and start cleaning the bowls. This way, some greedy immigrants would lose their cozy high paid employments and had to go home to their traditional job of robbing tourists again. No pain, no gain, John, Ken, Michelle et al!

Posted by: Gray on April 15, 2006 at 4:28 PM | PERMALINK

I don't even understand what the message is. "Here's a bunch of brushes for the Mexicans who clean our toilets"? "Here, we clean our toilets so much we have brushes to spare"?

Posted by: Alexander Wolfe on April 15, 2006 at 4:30 PM | PERMALINK

And speaking of "manufactured outrage," isn't Drum (yadayadayada some idiotic non-issue)...

manufactured outrage indeed.

get a life, idiot.

Posted by: cleek on April 15, 2006 at 4:33 PM | PERMALINK

BTW, for all you Malkin defenders:

She's an inflammatory idiot, and she sucks.

Thank you.

Posted by: Alexander Wolfe on April 15, 2006 at 4:33 PM | PERMALINK

from the linked post:

Reader Jeff M. e-mails: "So many people are sending in toilet brushes that prices have been climbing (even on Amazon where toilet brushes have been hitting the # 1 spot on their sales charts)!"

this struck me as implausible, so I checked out. I know that you will be shocked, shocked to find out that this is of course a fabrication.

Posted by: m on April 15, 2006 at 4:41 PM | PERMALINK

I decided to pass on that link. The idea of toilets and Malkin together is too off-putting.

Posted by: Hedley Lamarr on April 15, 2006 at 4:48 PM | PERMALINK

illaraigosa:

"...We take care of your children. ..."

Not sure what we should send him, our children or a bunch of used diapers?

Posted by: Matt on April 15, 2006 at 5:02 PM | PERMALINK

Today we say to America: We've come here to work: We clean your toilets. We clean your hotels. We build your houses. We take care of your children. We want you to help us take care of our children as well. -- Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa

Who is this "we"? Who is "you"?

Posted by: Mike on April 15, 2006 at 5:05 PM | PERMALINK

winna

Leftists cannot help but let loose with racist/sexist insults against apostates, because their cant is based on "the personal is the political". Non-leftist women and/or minorities are not "authentic" unless they fully subscribe to the "proper" ideology. Thus Condi Rice is a "niggah" and drawn as such by "tolerant" cartoonists, Malkin is "self-hating" (mildest thing I've read), Coulter is a "man", etc.

It's collectivism at its basest. And one of the reasons why, protests to the contrary, that most non-moslem apologists for radical Islam are found squarely ON the Left.

Villaraigosia (a blended name that his wife and he created when they married) has been doing what too many politicians in this case are doing -- pandering to what they perceive will get this the "Hispanic" bloc vote. First by blurring ANY distinction between legals immigrants and illegal aliens, then trying to shutup the opposition to an open border stance by portraying the opposition as nothing more than redneck, snaggletoothed, drooling xenophobes.

Yeah, NO bigotry there.

Posted by: Darleen on April 15, 2006 at 5:09 PM | PERMALINK

Well, Ann Coulter IS a man. What's wrong with pointing that out? She is frighteningly rail thin for a 'woman' in her mid 40s whose never had children or never been married (because she is so pro family) so one can only suspect she is a barfer or a meth addict, and I think it's the latter.

Michelle Banana boat is just bitter still that her family got their asses kicked by the Japanese many generations ago, and she is still bitter that she gets asked to paint toenails.

Sheesh... you'd think the trollosers who have nothing better to do on a Sat that to sit home alone and drink and blog might know these things

Posted by: Mosh Pit on April 15, 2006 at 5:18 PM | PERMALINK

Fabrication, m? Or just that you decided to post the most general category "Home & Garden" instead of going to "Bathroom Accessories", where at THIS HOUR (list is UPDATED hourly), toilet brushes are #10.

But hey, don't let me stand in the way of your narrative.

Posted by: Darleen on April 15, 2006 at 5:21 PM | PERMALINK


M: this struck me as implausible, so I checked out. I know that you will be shocked, shocked to find out that this is of course a fabrication.

Perhaps. But they are having an effect on sales. And from the comments at Amazon, most seem happy with their purchase and the use to which they intend to put it.


Posted by: jayarbee on April 15, 2006 at 5:21 PM | PERMALINK

Thank you, Mosh, for proving my point.

Posted by: Darleen on April 15, 2006 at 5:22 PM | PERMALINK

So sorry to hear you have no life, Darleen. Then again, if I met you in person, I'd know why. Try losing weight.

Posted by: Mosh Pit on April 15, 2006 at 5:24 PM | PERMALINK


at THIS HOUR (list is UPDATED hourly), toilet brushes are #10.

You better buy some more, Darleen; it's fallen to #12.


Posted by: jayarbee on April 15, 2006 at 5:28 PM | PERMALINK

All Your Toilets Are Belong To Us

Posted by: Mike on April 15, 2006 at 5:33 PM | PERMALINK

Darleen: #10 is not #1. And please show us those "niggah" cartoons. Otherwise go outside and play, it's a nice day. Speaking of going outside I think Matt summed up the whole winger problem:

>Who is this "we"? Who is "you"?

Don't leave your basement, don't change the channel from Faux News, then you can be as confused as Ms. Malkin - a woman who, despite the fantasies of our trolls, would not give any of them the time of day.

Anybody with a double-digit IQ would know that Vill. was speaking of public facilities. Go to a Dodgers game and see how many white people show up to clean the latrines afterwards. Like zero.

Again, this requires leaving Mum's basement. Scary, I know. You'll see the reality-based world, which to Steve White is "unhinged".

Posted by: doesn't matter on April 15, 2006 at 5:36 PM | PERMALINK

Darn, the brush has dropped down to #87 on the Amazon best seller list, just above the "MAGIC BULLET. DELUXE SET W/BLENDER JUICE EXTRACTOR KIT".

Posted by: Mike on April 15, 2006 at 5:44 PM | PERMALINK
The idea of toilets and Malkin together is too off-putting.

Really, I can think of few pairs of ideas so well-suited for each other.

Posted by: cmdicely on April 15, 2006 at 5:45 PM | PERMALINK

"Her crime is that she is a minority woman . . ."

Ah, yes, the culture of victimization.

Posted by: Joel on April 15, 2006 at 5:50 PM | PERMALINK

You better buy some more, Darleen; it's fallen to #12.

That's because Soros and those racist and sexist jerks at Kos are buying bath mats and shower curtains like mad.

Posted by: Darleen on April 15, 2006 at 5:52 PM | PERMALINK

You know, this whole thread is so ridiculous that instead of commenting on it, I think I'll tell you about a short story I read in David Foster Wallace's '04 collection, Oblivion. Critically, he's been getting mixed reviews lately, but he's one of my favorite authors (and everybody seems to agree that he's at least *some* sort of a genius ... )

It's not entirely off-topic, either. The story's called "The Suffering Channel," and it's about shit. Literally. Or about a Roto-Rooter guy somewhere out in Buttfuck, Indiana who shits miniature duplicates of famous sculptures: Rodin. The head of the Egyptian jackal-god Anubis. A bust of James Monroe. He sprays these articulated turds with a fixative and has them out on display in his toolshed.

Turns out his mom was some kind of Midwestern-proletariat religious freak who did not spare the rod, and his toilet training was rather traumatic.

Well that's the story's hook; what it's actually about is a People-esque magazine (in the BSG subindustry -- that's Big, Soft, Glossy) called Style, and one of their ace reporters' quest to track down this guy and his wife and cajole him into letting them do a story on his freak talent. As Walter Kirn in the NYT sez, it's about that other kind of waste -- cheesy, sometimes freakishly meaningless human-interest stories that get their unseemly edges filed off and processed into an easily digestible and ultimately flushable form by outlets like Style magazine. Which is kinda cute metaphorics.

The funniest parts of this story (and DFW has one of the darkest senses of humor in literature today) involve a crew of "fatuous fashionistas" (Kirn's phrase) who work out of Style's headquarters in the WTC (this all takes place in the summer of '01 -- natch -- as the issue with "the miraculous poo" comes out Sept. 10th). They're all interns, most straight out of Seven Sisters colleges, all to a woman borderline anorexic. DFW takes great delight in describing their workday coture and salad-picking habits. So they sit around at a working lunch in a neighborhood bistro exchanging poo anecdotes -- replete with a quote from Swift that one of them (it is pointed out, disturbingly) has memorized:

"Send up an excremental Smell
To taint the parts from whence they Fell
the Pettycoats and Gown perfume
And waft a Stink round every Room"

I dunno ... I find this fucking hysterical. But maybe I'm just weird ...

Bob

Posted by: rmck1 on April 15, 2006 at 5:52 PM | PERMALINK

"But maybe I'm just weird ..."

Yup.

Posted by: Joel on April 15, 2006 at 5:56 PM | PERMALINK


DARLEEN: That's because Soros and those racist and sexist jerks at Kos are buying bath mats and shower curtains like mad.

Now, see? That's what I'm talking about . . . that was funny!

Anyway, with a chain of hotels in Japan, at least Soros might have a good use for those bath mats and shower curtains.


Posted by: jayarbee on April 15, 2006 at 6:24 PM | PERMALINK

rmck1, you had me laughing from start to finish and thanks for the tip on a great author, I think!

Posted by: Matt on April 15, 2006 at 6:42 PM | PERMALINK

AL you guys seem paranoid. So I'm supposed to stand Vigil for some guy, whom I've never heard of, that made some lunatic statement just like Pat Robertson, Fallwell, Or Coulter often make that is going to ATTACK ALL AMERICANS with a Toilet Brush?
So This guy is like Santa Claus Eh? Able to Fly around the World, enter my home and attack me, brutally, with a toilet brush?

Let me get my paranoid Conservative lingo down.
The Liberals want to destroy America.
The Caliphate Wants to Rule the World.
The Zionist Hollywood Liberals are Conspiring to take over America. The Poor people on welfare are conspiring to stealing from you. The Homosexuals are taking over Public Education. And the Moon Bats are Running Amok. And Now the Mad Mexicans Want to take over the Toilets and Rule the World Simply thru massive Procreation!

Umm Al, tell me when the 'Toilet ALert' Goes to Full Crimson? Cause until then this is just another War on Christmas, or War on Easter campaign of Faux Nutwork Kookiness.

Posted by: one eye buck tooth [X^B on April 15, 2006 at 7:03 PM | PERMALINK

Darleen:

Jesus, I really *must* be bored if I've worked up the
rhetorical, uhh ... saliva, to respond to your drivel here.

> Leftists cannot help but let loose with racist/sexist
> insults against postates, because their cant is based
> "the personal is the political".

It's more like that leftists tend to have very darkly ironic
senses of humor and enjoy tossing back the sorts of caracatures
they've endured from the right for decades -- whereas
most right-wingers seem to have been born with a literal-
mindedness gene that prevents them from perceiving irony.

> Non-leftist women and/or minorities are not "authentic"
> unless they fully subscribe to the "proper" ideology.
> Thus Condi Rice is a "niggah" and drawn as such by
> "tolerant" cartoonists, Malkin is "self-hating"
> (mildest thing I've read), Coulter is a "man", etc.

Don't forget Clarence "Lawn Jockey" Thomas :)

It's that Condi, or Clarence, or Michelle, or JC
Watts or Alan Keyes aren't exactly *representative*
-- except of that oft-ridiculed type the Uncle Tom.

But I mean, hey, if you *want* to claim Claude Allen's propensity
for ghetto-cheesy receipt-fraud shoplifting as *representative* of
black Family Values conservatism -- why, by all means, be our guest :)

Or Armstrong Williams for journalistic integrity :)

But see ... if Allen and Willams aren't representative (and of course
they aren't), then neither is the piano-playing racquetball virtuoso
Condi Rice. You don't get to pick and choose representative qualities.

> It's collectivism at its basest.

It's statistical honesty, is what it is. It's an
attempt to avoid conflating the mean with the exception.

> And one of the reasons why, protests to the contrary, that most non-
> moslem apologists for radical Islam are found squarely ON the Left.

Nobody apologizes for radical Islam. What people who have a tad of
education on the subject may try to do is to remind the stereotypers
out there (most of them on the right) that radical Islam represents
a tiny number of Muslims, that despite the superficial similarities,
there's a stark difference between radical Islam and *conservative*
Islam, that most of the cartoon protesters were by no means lawless
radicals. It's the right-wingers who want to collapse distinctions.

> Villaraigosia (a blended name that his wife and he created
> when they married) has been doing what too many politicians
> in this case are doing -- pandering to what they perceive
> will get this the "Hispanic" bloc vote. First by blurring ANY
> distinction between legals immigrants and illegal aliens,

The protesters are the ones who've clasped hands in solidarity, and
the reason's obvious given the nature of Tancredo's bill. It would
amount to criminalizing legal *family members* if they chose to help
their illegal relatives. This is also the basis of the Catholic
Church's opposition to that ill-conceived piece of legislation.

> then trying to shutup the opposition to an open border
> stance by portraying the opposition as nothing more
> than redneck, snaggletoothed, drooling xenophobes.

As opposed to pseudo-intellectual Ayn Rand wannabe intellectuals
with overstuffed vocabularies and mediocre debating skills :)

> Yeah, NO bigotry there.

*applying my faithful Bic to your straw man*

Bob

Bob

Posted by: rmck1 on April 15, 2006 at 7:04 PM | PERMALINK

And second, it's easy to mock conservatives, evangelicals, Catholics, Jews, southerners, etc. on a liberal blog, because you know, up front, that none of these people are going to behead you.
Posted by: Steve White on April 15, 2006 at 2:24 PM | PERMALINK
so America a country of 85-90% Christians, Evangelicals, Catholics, Jews, that Mock each other?

And so then the Jails are 85-90% full of Christians, Jews, Catholics and Baptists?

Surely you can see why the 'Neo-Cons' and your Conservative blame on 'Godless' people is a Sham?
The Only War on Christians is from Christians. The 10-15% that are atheist simply do not constitute enough of a threat to anyone anywhere. Clinton was a Baptist, Bush a methodist. Tell you what, Put a few different groups like this in the same church and you got yourself a war of moral blame game like you have never seen. Peyton Place aint got sheeaht on these actors.

Posted by: one eye buck tooth [X^B on April 15, 2006 at 7:14 PM | PERMALINK

Malkin is a bright and often interesting writer. Her crime is that she is a minority woman with conservative views. Her minority status results in expecially harsh criticims from lefties.

I'm not "lefty" and I've spent enough decades knowing, working with, and doing business with enough members of Michelle's ethnic group that any notion of "minority" status doesn't even register with me. Michelle's problem is she is mean-spirited, a sloppy writer, and an unprofessional researcher/analyst. She shamelessly capitalizes on the novelty-act aspect of being "a minority woman with conservative views" in order to gain face-(and print-) time in the major media, promoting the mainstreaming of lunatic fringe beliefs and furthering the dumbing-down of American public discourse.

Posted by: tom on April 15, 2006 at 7:16 PM | PERMALINK

Malkin's blog beats Drum's blog hands-down.

Malkin is interesting, her blog is bright and aesthetically pleasing. Like Drum, she comments on currents issues. But she does it in an engaging way.

By the way, I think it was a low-blow for Drum to cherry-pick one rather innocuous post about the LA Mayor, and generalize from it. But hey, that is blogging, and Malkin can take it.

Malkin's career is taking off, with books and TV appearances, and columns.

I think Drum is jealous.

Posted by: Moon Over Miami on April 15, 2006 at 7:43 PM | PERMALINK

It must be a slow day, because I spent a couple of minutes trying to figure this out. I guess it takes more than a couple of minutes. It can't be that anyone, especially in the greater Los Angeles area, can seriously doubt what kind of jobs are performed by Hispanics.

I guess, being charitable, that the point is that there are plenty of non-illegal, non-hispanic people cleaning their own toilets. Perhaps the argument is that the anti-amnesty crowd is so excited about the possibility of millions of deportations that they want to go on record to volunteer for toilet cleaning work. However, that is somewhat inconsistent with mailing in a toilet brush to the mayor.

Unlike the attack on Christmas, this is not even a controversy. I guess mailing in some soiled bedsheets or a power mower or a dirty plate or a hammer just doesn't have the same entertainment value as a a toilet brush.

"Here, I'm against amnesty -- have a toilet brush to prove it." Now there is a sophisticated argument.

Posted by: hank on April 15, 2006 at 7:58 PM | PERMALINK

Torn-

That about sums it up. Thanks.

Posted by: Alexander Wolfe on April 15, 2006 at 8:10 PM | PERMALINK

Fools and their country are soon parted.

I probably should be glad that the terrible 2 year olds in the dem camp and the 2 year olds in the repub camp are stomping and bashing each other with their toys...as it means the country should shortly blow up and send them both scrambling to their cribs with their blankets over their heads.

Can't happen soon enough for me. When it happens the bleeding heart pro illegals will be living with the illegals in hippy migrate camps and the anti-illegals will be cleaning toilets in the gated communites of the elites.

Posted by: Chanel No 5 on April 15, 2006 at 8:25 PM | PERMALINK

Klueless Kevin descends even further into Atrios territory, unleashing a series of extraordinarily unfunny jokes. Does Kevin have anything interesting to say, or did he just want to throw out some red meat?

It's interesting to take a look at who's on which side in this matter.

Antonio Villaraigosa, Kevin Drum, and other Democrats are in effect supporting illegal immigration, something that leads directly to worker abuse, barrios containing very low-wage workers, further dividing California into a two-tier economy, increased workplace deaths and injuries, increased corruption, and on and on.

Meanwhile, Michelle Malkin opposes all those negatives.

Kevin Drum should really take a long look at whether he's on the right side of this issue or not.

-- Illegal immigration news

Posted by: TLB on April 15, 2006 at 8:53 PM | PERMALINK

TLB:

Ooh ooh ... how *courageous*. I think I'll oppose all negatives, too. I'm strongly against all negatives and fully support all positives.

Sounds like a real winner at the ballot box, for sure :)

Bob

Posted by: rmck1 on April 15, 2006 at 9:02 PM | PERMALINK

Up in the second comment, someone claiming to be Al said: "...foreigners like Antonio Villaraigosa and other Mexican criminals."

For the record, Villaraigosa was born and bred in L.A. I don't know why the hell people would think he's a "foreigner," let alone a "Mexican criminal," but I'm not surprised some do.

Posted by: JJF on April 15, 2006 at 11:09 PM | PERMALINK

"For the record, Villaraigosa was born and bred in L.A."

Proof positive, he is likely an illegal and a criminal. But is he Mexican??

Posted by: Matt on April 16, 2006 at 12:48 AM | PERMALINK

Stupidest...thread...ever.

I wish Keven had explained what the supposed controversy was so that I didn't have to read the link and this thread.

Seriuosly, do people honestly believe Villaraigosa thinks immigration opponents directly employ illegal immigrants? Or do they just say he does because it makes themselves feel good? At this point, I just can't tell.

Posted by: pantomimehorse on April 16, 2006 at 12:55 AM | PERMALINK

How can we send Malkin toilet brushes? Anyone have her address?

Posted by: Psyberian on April 16, 2006 at 1:16 AM | PERMALINK

Ok, I read all the batshit comments. Let me explain the real issue for you.

There are 11 million legal/illegal/terrorist hispanics that someone (snark) let into this country to clean toilets and the such so that fascist leaders would not have to raise the minimum wage so that the rest of us Amerikans would do it for them.

Its all about money and the marginalization of the WORKING CLASS.

Its amazing how many folk never studied Econ 101

Posted by: psychohistorian on April 16, 2006 at 2:24 AM | PERMALINK

tbrosz defends Michelle Malkin's innanity by presenting a link to a story of his choice about popular press foolishness.

When Kevin points out that the incident in question was blown up by the British press, what does our favorite linkmeister do?

1) he says "oops, my bad";
2) he provides a link that actually supports his contention;
3) he makes a lame excuse, pointedly refuses to admit any error, and in fact maintains that he's still correct.

Let's go to the video tape!

I'm busy today, and only had time to go back a few days. I'm sure there are plenty of examples of the U.S. media making a Tibetan Plateau out of a molehill.
Posted by: tbrosz on April 15, 2006 at 3:07 PM

If you guessed number three, you're a winner! Honestly, Tom, why is it so damned hard for you to admit it when you're wrong?

Posted by: keith on April 16, 2006 at 6:19 AM | PERMALINK

This Malkin issue a red herring. The real issue is the mayor of Los Angeles saying to America, "Today we say to America". I am going to remember it as a watershed moment when the Latino tide turned in the U.S., where they openly acknowledged themselves as Mexican, and not American. If that is "today", what will tomorrow bring?

Posted by: Bob M on April 16, 2006 at 8:17 AM | PERMALINK

Bob M:

Er, it is entirely possible for ANY group (minority or majority) to say something to America while still being part of America...

...although it may not be possible for some racist bigots to understand this.

Posted by: scotus on April 16, 2006 at 9:33 AM | PERMALINK

Without outrage, there's no money. She's just making money.

Posted by: Roxanne on April 16, 2006 at 9:44 AM | PERMALINK

Scotus, you miss the real world context of the mayor's remarks of "we" vs "America".

Your view is theoretical: as you say,m it is entirely possible for ANY group (minority or majority) to say something to America while still being part of America. Sure, no argument there.

In the real world of 2006, however, the Latinos are flexing power, and Mr Mayor of LA is trying out his version of flexing. The more he stresses the "we" vs "America" theme, as I see it, the more he hopes to consolidate his power base. This is no big insight. Observers have been waiting for Latino power to emerge in such ways for a few decades now, and maybe now is the time. Mr Mayor's type of politics is a new thing, and important, given the vast numbers of Latinos. This is a big issue.

It is funny how everyone is going for the tiny red herring of the conservative commentator, and missing the real issue.

Posted by: Bob M on April 16, 2006 at 11:18 AM | PERMALINK

For the record, Villaraigosa was born and bred in L.A. I don't know why the hell people would think he's a "foreigner," let alone a "Mexican criminal," but I'm not surprised some do.

Spanish isn't even his first language. There's plenty of things to find objectionable about him without distorting the basic facts.

Posted by: wilder on April 16, 2006 at 11:56 AM | PERMALINK

Rather than sending the toilet brushes to the mayor, these offended Angelenos should be carrying the brushes around with them so they can clean public toilets every time they use them. After all, these are self-reliant Americans.

Posted by: womanhattan on April 16, 2006 at 12:02 PM | PERMALINK

If Malkin was in LA and used a public restroom, I hope she would clean it after she was finished.

Posted by: Anon on April 16, 2006 at 5:03 PM | PERMALINK

I am relieved, however, that Ms. Hamsher no longer works in the U.S. District Attorney's office. The notion of her dispensing 'justice' gives me cold chills.

You appear to have mistaken Ms. Hamsher for Ms. Hardin Smith, you fucking moron.

Cheers!

Posted by: ahem on April 16, 2006 at 5:43 PM | PERMALINK

I am going to remember it as a watershed moment when the Latino tide turned in the U.S., where they openly acknowledged themselves as Mexican, and not American.

Although it's hardly a watershed for you to openly acknowledge yourself as illiterate.

Posted by: ahem on April 16, 2006 at 5:45 PM | PERMALINK

Although it's hardly a watershed for you to openly acknowledge yourself as illiterate.

Do you even know what you are saying?

Posted by: Bob M on April 16, 2006 at 10:07 PM | PERMALINK

"Here is what would change your mind--When and if that dreaded day comes when you have to watch your mother's last days slipping away surrounded by the constant care of hispanic angels."

Surprisingly, here in NoCal, these angels (and I have met many of them) are mostly from the Philippines. I have no idea how they immigrated, but I don't think they crossed the border illegally.

Many of these Philippine health workers do, however, do have hispanic last names.

Posted by: Cal Gal on April 17, 2006 at 5:12 PM | PERMALINK




 

 

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