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April 24, 2006
By: Kevin Drum

SO THREE GUYS ARE SITTING IN AN AIRPLANE....Needlenose has your joke of the day.

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Sorry. Too obvious, too brutal, and not funny enough.

Posted by: Barry on April 24, 2006 at 5:41 PM | PERMALINK

"Three guys are sitting in an airplane" is the perfect description. Fill in any three guys you want and it has exactly the same punch!

LAME

Posted by: Allen K. on April 24, 2006 at 5:42 PM | PERMALINK

They need to tie this into "Snakes on a Plane" somehow.

Posted by: tom on April 24, 2006 at 5:45 PM | PERMALINK

Welcome to last year.

This is a Katrina joke to be specific.

Posted by: jerry on April 24, 2006 at 5:48 PM | PERMALINK

They need to tie this into "Snakes on a Plane" somehow.

there's always a sequel ... lol

Posted by: linda on April 24, 2006 at 5:50 PM | PERMALINK

That joke's at least as old as the first administration.

Posted by: JeffII on April 24, 2006 at 5:51 PM | PERMALINK

Outrageous. "So Three Guys are Stting in an Airplane" is no laughing matter. A direct threat on the lives of the CIC, VP and the Defense Secretary, our three leaders in a war to maintain our way of life, and you chuckle. Do you laugh about the dead soldiers on the three beaches in Normandy?

Posted by: Al on April 24, 2006 at 5:53 PM | PERMALINK

Is King George like the Queen, in that he never actually carries any money? I wonder if W has actually touched real cash in the last 6 years, or possibly ever. He probably just says "buy me that" and Rove runs out and buys it. Unless it's a cheeseburger, in which case they send Card to get it.

And like the Queen, I wonder what the President carries in his purse?

Posted by: craigie on April 24, 2006 at 6:11 PM | PERMALINK

If "Al" didn't like this one, he'll hate this one:

One night, George W. Bush is tossing restlessly in his White House bed. He
awakens to see George Washington standing by him. Bush asks him, "George,
what's the best thing I can do to help the country?" "Set an honest and
honorable example, just as I did," Washington advises, and then fades away.

The next night, Bush is astir again, and sees the ghost of Thomas Jefferson
moving through the darkened bedroom. Bush calls out, "Tom, please! What is
the best thing I can do to help the country?" "Respect the Constitution, as
I did," Jefferson advises, and dims from sight.

The third night sleep is still not in the cards for Bush. He awakens to see
the ghost of FDR hovering over his bed. Bush whispers, "Franklin, What is
the best thing I can do to help the country?" "Help the less fortunate, just
as I did," FDR replies and fades into the mist.

Bush isn't sleeping well the fourth night when he sees another figure moving
in the shadows. It is the ghost of Abraham Lincoln. Bush pleads, "Abe, what
is the best thing I can do right now to help the country?" Abe replies,
"Go see a play"

Posted by: Robert on April 24, 2006 at 6:13 PM | PERMALINK

I have a far funnier version of that joke, but it is much too dirty to tell here, and I am far too nice a girl anyway.

Posted by: shortstop on April 24, 2006 at 6:20 PM | PERMALINK

Ha, I had forgotten about that joke, Robert--it's a goodie. Cue Charlie to tell us we're all being reported to the FBI for our threats to the president. The Feebs will prolly tell us to get in line behind their own guys.

Posted by: shortstop on April 24, 2006 at 6:22 PM | PERMALINK

Would you believe this man if he says something looking into your eyes?



[Bush] went on to say: "I also want to let you know that before you commit troops that you must do everything that you can to solve the problem diplomatically. And I can look you in the eye and tell you I feel I tried to solve the problem diplomatically to the max and would have committed troops both in Afghanistan and Iraq, knowing what I know today."

-- From today's appearance in Irvine.

Posted by: lib on April 24, 2006 at 6:27 PM | PERMALINK

Actually, lib, I suspect that after they made him run that line 15 times on Air Force One ("Slightly less eyebrow, sir--you're sad, not flummoxed!), he actually believes what he's saying.

Posted by: shortstop on April 24, 2006 at 6:33 PM | PERMALINK

Oh, heck, he didn't have to practice it because he believed it. Why? Because Dick said that they'd done everything possible diplomatically that wasn't stupid or weak, or just asking for trouble. And so, after trying all diplomatic solutions, he decided to stick to principles and invade.

Posted by: Doctor Jay on April 24, 2006 at 6:39 PM | PERMALINK

DJ, are you actually saying you believe this, or merely that Bush believed Dick's lies and so did not lie himself? Just asking.

Posted by: in search of tossed limes on April 24, 2006 at 6:44 PM | PERMALINK

Well technically, it would be 6 billion less the 34% or so of Americans who still support Bush, whatever that works out to. Or, maybe we could throw them out of a plane too.

Posted by: Alexander Wolfe on April 24, 2006 at 6:59 PM | PERMALINK

Al was sitting on a plane, picking his nose with what looked like a box cutter.

The other passengers became alarmed and talked over what they should do. Then someone noticed that he wasn't using a box cutter at all - it was a spoon. After a few minutes they rushed the cabin and forced the captain to fly the plane into the ground.

It was all a mystery at first, until a relative of one of the passenger's came forward to say that she had received a phone call from her son during the final moments. When reporters asked what he'd told her she said, "He told me that Al is very gross when he picks his nose."

Posted by: Al's wife on April 24, 2006 at 6:59 PM | PERMALINK

Did anyone ask the follow-up of "What about the communication the Iraqis sent a couple years ago through the Swiss? What did your administration do when the Iraqis offered to engage in diplomatic talks?"

Ask a specific follow-up!!

Posted by: theorajones on April 24, 2006 at 7:00 PM | PERMALINK

Did anyone ask the follow-up of "What about the communication the Iraqis sent a couple years ago through the Swiss? What did your administration do when the Iraqis offered to engage in diplomatic talks?" Ask a specific follow-up!! Posted by: theorajones

I think you mean Iranians. We have no diplomatic relations with Iran, and the Swiss do any go-betweens for us.

Posted by: JeffII on April 24, 2006 at 7:09 PM | PERMALINK

That joke's awesome! You couldn't open a window on Air Force One without losing cabin pressure! Silly administration officials. :D

Posted by: Mev on April 24, 2006 at 7:15 PM | PERMALINK

ooh, eliminationist rhetoric. Someone alert David Niewert!

Posted by: a on April 24, 2006 at 7:18 PM | PERMALINK

Meh, passably funny, but the premise is flawed. None of those three would ever (a)do something to make anyone other than their fatcat donors happy, (b)throw any of their personal money out of a window.

A more likely scenario would be:

Bush: I could throw a $100,000,000 tax cut to Exxon & make one conglom very happy.

Cheney: Well, then I would throw a $100,000,000 tax cut to Exxon & Haliburton...etc.

No punch line in my version... the joke's on the rest of you.

Posted by: raff on April 24, 2006 at 7:31 PM | PERMALINK

The main point is that these are the three most loathed and ridiculed men on the planet.

This is the first time, perhaps in history, certainly in my lifetime, that an American president has been so universally reviled.

Let's hope it is the last time.

Because it means of course, that Bush (and thus The Ameican Presidency) has absolutely no moral authority.

Internationally he has run our country's prestige into the ground.

Quite literally, for 6 billion people, America's president is nothing but a cockroach they wish they could beat with a dirty shoe.

Somehow... I don't think that image puts the USA in a good light.


Posted by: koreyel on April 24, 2006 at 7:35 PM | PERMALINK

koreyel: yep, but most right-wingers I know think that the world is very hostile toward America all the time. I always had the impression that the opposite is true, that America is mostly well liked in spite of our imperfections.

However, after Bush we will have a lot of recovering to do. Re-electing Bush made us look very foolish.

Posted by: little ole jim from red country on April 24, 2006 at 7:40 PM | PERMALINK

Is King George like the Queen, in that he never actually carries any money?

Yes, actually, that's correct.

Bush reveals contents of his pockets: No wallet or keys

"When the reporter from La Nacion asked Bush to show him what he carries, the president stood up, fished in his pockets, then dramatically pulled his hands out holding nothing but a white handkerchief that he waved playfully in the air."

The story does not go on to say that while waving the white hankerchief, he commented that the questioner had a pretty face.

Posted by: Constantine on April 24, 2006 at 7:48 PM | PERMALINK

On various occasions over the past couple of years, Ive emailed Kevin a post of mine, hoping to get a link for some presumably pithy analysis of the Plame case, the political maneuverings in Iraq, etc.

My co-blogger who only posts three times a month tosses out a cheesy joke someone emailed him, and he gets an unsolicited link. Go figure. :-)

Thank goodness I got a link from Juan Cole over the weekend, or he'd never let me hear the end of it.

Posted by: Swopa on April 24, 2006 at 7:52 PM | PERMALINK

W, Clinton, and Al Gore were on a goodwill tour of South America. Over the jungle their plane ran into engine problems and set down on a field. They were instantly surrounded by armed guerillas, who disarmed the Secret Service, and took them hostage, walked them up to a clearing and told them they were going to be executed for being imperialist yankee dogs.

Bill Clinton was brought before the forest first. As the rebels prepared to shoot, he yelled "EAARTHQUAKE", the rebels freaked out, and he ran into the woods in confusion.

Al Gore was brought up next, and he tried a similar trick. He yelled "TSUNAMI", and in the disturbance, he too got away.

George Bush was brought to the same spot, and he had a smirk on his face. The rebels lined up, and grinning wildy, he yelled "FIRE!!!!"

Posted by: trifecta on April 24, 2006 at 7:53 PM | PERMALINK

the 34% or so of Americans who still support Bush

32% and falling...

Posted by: ogmb on April 24, 2006 at 8:21 PM | PERMALINK

koreyel,

The main point is that [Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld] are the three most loathed and ridiculed men on the planet.

[...]

Quite literally, for 6 billion people, America's president is nothing but a cockroach they wish they could beat with a dirty shoe.

Interesting, isn't it? In a world where living architects of genocide are plentiful, and heads of state muse publicly about how cool it would be to wipe nearby nations "off the map," &c., these three are the "most loathed and ridiculed men on the planet." Really, if these are six billion people's best targets for loathing and ridicule, they aren't looking very hard.

Posted by: waterfowl on April 24, 2006 at 9:00 PM | PERMALINK

waterfowl:

Didn't Israel wipe Palestine off the map first?

Just sayin'....

Bob

Posted by: rmck1 on April 24, 2006 at 9:30 PM | PERMALINK

waterfowl:

Well, and then you've got all the natural and inevitable hatred, just because they're the leaders of the most powerful country in the world.

Add the fact that Rummy, Deadeye Dick and Smirky happen to be *genuine* asshole's assholes who don't really give a shit about anything human or meaningful -- and the multiplier effect is sort of extreme in world-historical terms.

Bob

Posted by: rmck1 on April 24, 2006 at 9:35 PM | PERMALINK

I heard it like this: A Quaker, a penguin, and a reference librarian walk into a bar ...

Posted by: Jeffrey Davis on April 24, 2006 at 9:54 PM | PERMALINK


Hey Do you know how riding in the Flight Engineer seat of a Large Jet is like exactly, in every way, like a Old Western Stagecoach?

You are always looking at Horses Asses.

Posted by: one eye buck tooth [X^B on April 24, 2006 at 10:10 PM | PERMALINK

Christ, that's an old joke. Older than the one where JFK, (and later Ted Kennedy and and even later Bill Clinton) are on a sinking ship, and the punchline is where on guy says, "Fuck the women and children! and they say "Do you think there's time?"

Here's funny: What's the difference between Iraq and Vietnam? Bush had a plan to get out of Vietnam.

Posted by: Pat on April 24, 2006 at 10:19 PM | PERMALINK

Let me tell a true story. Much Funnier.


We had some new flight engineers that had come up thru training, that were pilots, but were making the first step into the Heavies.

One of the Bombers [727-200] was having a tailkskid problem, so the Mechanic had installed the gear pins, turned on hydraulic power [3000 psi] and moved the gear handle to simulate a retraction on the ground.

The flight engineer pilot watched this process, and paid attenttion to the pretty lights on the panel, and he saw the mechanic close the gear doors, which he had opened for other maintenance.

Yes, the flight engineer, without words, had gained great wisdom and was soon awash with great problem solving skills, He would make his job easier! Yes!

The flight engineer in his walkaround, opened the gears doors by pulling the latch, yes! Success!
He then proceeded to the other main gear and open that door, hah! Who needs mechanics he may have thought. Soon he was back in the cockpit and ready to test his final theory of gear doordom.

Hydraulic Power on, Yes Pressure!, Lights, purty lights!, Gear handle UP! Wow, I wonder why the plane is tilting,, OH SHEEEET!!!

The Nose Gear of the Bomber had Folded, and Retracted, the Entry door to the Jet ripped off on the AirStairs..

I saw the Mechanic do it! He Protested in amazement..Yes But the Mechanic had the gear pins in..and he pointed to them on the flight engineers panel...

[**Bomber is a 727, it was notorious for people leaving whell chocks on the wing doors, only to have them fall when the put the gear up. As far as I know no one has been hurt, but cars have suffered some damage from this big rubber chocks]

Posted by: one eye buck tooth [X^B on April 24, 2006 at 10:24 PM | PERMALINK

Just for Grins =)

wont speak for anyone else here, but my own dislike of Michelle Malkin has nothing to do with her race and everything to do with her incredibly stupid, fed up way of looking at things. I couldnt care less what her ethnic, racial or religious heritage is. I dislike her for purely personal reasons.

Comment by Wayne A. Schneider April 24, 2006 @ 6:59 pm

Ill Second that. Shes like fingernails on a chalkboard to anyone that has a bit of sense. Just to show that race or color have nothing to do with it, Oreilly and Coulter are equally abrasive and spiteful and ALL of them parrot the same ministry attack style.
Check this out;
Like George W. Bush Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld, Rove managed to avoid the Vietnam draft with a college deferment, but dropped out of the University of Utah in 1971, never obtaining a degree. While at the University of Utah, Rove began his real-life political career as the executive director of the College Republican National Committee. He held this position until 1972 when he became the National Chairman of the College Republicans (1973-1974). As chairman, Rove had access to many powerful politicians and government officials during the Watergate scandal, including then CIA director George H. W. Bush. For the next few years, he worked in various Republican circles and assisted George H. W. Bushs 1980 presidential campaign. Roves greatest claim to fame at the time was that he had introduced Bush to Lee Atwater. A signature tactic of Rove was to attack an opponent on the opponents strongest issue. Another tactic used since high school, was to launch smear campaigns against any political rival no matter how insignificant. Rove early on was a master at slander, usually imputing sexual deviations to his opponents but always being careful to divorce himself from the resulting reactions. Reports in his school files indicate that he was repeatedly warned by school authorities about these allegations of sexual deviancy but Rove always very smugly denied being their author. A school district psychiatrist wrote that Rove was sexually inadequate and had developed an almost pathological hatred of so-called normal students. The general consensus of Karl Rove in high school is that he was very bright but obsessive about gaining some kind of control over his fellow students and doing so by publicly humiliating them. Rove was termed arrogant, untruthful and very destructive in his interpersonal reactions while in school.
So you can see where they get this Rhetoric from. Rove is Unstable and always has been. Coulter and many other mimick this ODD behaviour
Full Article;
http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a2286.htm#001

Posted by: one eye buck tooth [X^B on April 24, 2006 at 10:25 PM | PERMALINK

Wait till I get around to the Two Pilots, the Stewardess, and the FAA inspector!

Mach Tuck

Posted by: one eye buck tooth [X^B on April 24, 2006 at 10:31 PM | PERMALINK

ogmb: "32% and falling."

And in the same CNN/Gallup poll, 8% didn't know. That means approximately 20-25 million Americans are absolutely clueless.

Scary thought.

Posted by: Donald from Hawaii on April 24, 2006 at 10:43 PM | PERMALINK

This wouldn't be the Internet if someone didn't point out to Al that there were five invasion beaches at Normandy, not three, and that only two of them were assigned to US troops (Sword, Juno, and Gold were invaded by Commonwealth troops, Omaha and Utah were American).

Posted by: RedmondRick on April 24, 2006 at 10:50 PM | PERMALINK

Bob,

Didn't Israel wipe Palestine off the map first?

Well, not in the sense we've heard from the Arab world from the founding of Israel (the "Drive the Jews into the sea!" business) or from Iran of late. If it had, there wouldn't be any talk of Palestinian statehood, because there wouldn't be any Palestinians. In the less bloodthirsty sense you mean, I would be surprised if the maps used in Israeli schools, displayed on Israeli government Web sites, &c. routinely incorporated Gaza and the West Bank into "Israel" the way a lot of present-day Palestinian maps call all of Israel "Palestine." But if you want to blame anyone at all for "wiping Palestine off the map" in that sense, it would be the Brits, surely.

Well, and then you've got all the natural and inevitable hatred, just because they're the leaders of the most powerful country in the world.

Ummm . . . OK, Bob, but who do you really hate more: the guy who just massacred half your family, or "the leaders of the most powerful country in the world"? You hate the US government only if you've been taught to hate the US government, just as the Israeli/Palestinian conflict is the worst human rights problem in the world if you are taught so. A few million people can be quietly massacred in Congo without the people responsible becoming household names. Heck, Osama bin Laden can adduce an attempt to stop the mass killing of Muslims in Darfur as further evidence that the US is at war with Islam. The leader of Sudan has killed more Muslims than Dubya, and I doubt most of the readers here would know his name without the assistance of the ever-helpful Google.

Add the fact that Rummy, Deadeye Dick and Smirky happen to be *genuine* asshole's assholes who don't really give a shit about anything human or meaningful --

This differentiates them from the endlessly-newsworthy crowd of actors/models/rockers/rappers/sports legends how, exactly?

and the multiplier effect is sort of extreme in world-historical terms.

In world-historical terms, dude, we're talking footnotes to footnotes. In a century, Bush is going to be not much of anything. OTOH, if you mean that "Bush Is Satan, Only Simultaneously Dumb As A Pile Of Rocks And Devilishly Clever" is a very handy way of distracting people from their own oppression by their own ostensibly populist governments, you have a point.

Posted by: waterfowl on April 24, 2006 at 11:20 PM | PERMALINK

waterfowl,

'Hatred' is a strong word, but I strongly dislike the people who are destroying what is best about the country I love, America.

Not to mention the untold damage caused by their obliviousness to urgent and likely catastrophic environmental concerns.

These are people who stand for selfishness above all.

Posted by: obscure on April 25, 2006 at 12:18 AM | PERMALINK

An American, a Mexican, a Brit and a Frenchman were in a plane flying over the Atlantic. The pilot comes on and says "gentlemen, we've lost an engine, and we have to lose as much weight as possible."

So they open the door and start throwing everything out that isn't nailed down. But the pilot comes back on and says "no good, we're still going down. We need to lose more weight."

They look at each other for a while, and then the Brit goes to the door, says "God save the Queen!" and jumps out.

The plane levels out a bit, but the pilot comes back on and says "still no good, we need to lose more weight."

They look at each other for a while, and then the Frenchman goes to the door, says "Vive la France!" and jumps out.

The plane levels out a bit more, but the pilot comes back on and says "we still need to lose a bit more weight."

So the American goes to the door, says "Remember the Alamo!" and throws out the Mexican.

Posted by: craigie on April 25, 2006 at 12:49 AM | PERMALINK

Is that what passes for Democrat humor these days??

Posted by: MountainDan on April 25, 2006 at 1:49 AM | PERMALINK

craigie: "An American, a Mexican, a Brit and a Frenchman were in a plane ..."

This crude, politically incorrect but still funny joke apparently has eveolved into various formats. The one I heard, it was the Brit who stood up and proclaimed, "I'll always be in England!" before tossing out the Italian.

Posted by: Donald from Hawaii on April 25, 2006 at 4:39 AM | PERMALINK

Cragie,

The Scandinavian version ends with just a Finn, Norwgian and Swede staring at each other. The Finn and the Norwegian grab the Swede and toss him out. They proclaim, "long live Nordic cooperation!"

Posted by: kostya on April 25, 2006 at 6:26 AM | PERMALINK

Actually, if you check Cheney's tax records which are public domain. He's given a ridiculous amount to charity as a proportion of his net worth and as a straight amount.

Posted by: McA on April 25, 2006 at 6:29 AM | PERMALINK

Actually, if you check Cheney's tax records which are public domain. He's given a ridiculous amount to charity as a proportion of his net worth and as a straight amount.

Good for him. Still doesn't change the fact that he's a lying piece of crap.

Posted by: Monkey Butt on April 25, 2006 at 9:24 AM | PERMALINK

So three guys are sitting in an airline. Jessee Jackson, Bill Clinton and Arafat.....
The stewardess comes up and asks them what would you like......

Please feel free to fill in the blank...

Posted by: mycampaign on April 25, 2006 at 10:14 AM | PERMALINK

Donald:That means approximately 20-25 million Americans are absolutely clueless.

I believe the number is much higher than that.

Posted by: E. Henry Thripshaw on April 25, 2006 at 10:15 AM | PERMALINK

Mountin'Dan,

Is that what passes for Democrat humor these days??

Nope. This is:

Bush looks over the press corp before spotting his plant from Fox news, Jeff Gannon.

He jokingly asks "Yes Jeffmeister? How'd you spend your glorious weekend?"

Jeff: "Mountin' Dan"

Bush: "Lucky boy!"

Posted by: Tripp on April 25, 2006 at 10:43 AM | PERMALINK

Tripp, heh, heh, heh.

Posted by: shortstop, sophomoric as ever on April 25, 2006 at 11:03 AM | PERMALINK

Actually, if you check Cheney's tax records which are public domain.

Ah, but the records are only going to be really interesting after he leaves office, when they're no longer publicly accessible. But he may keel over from a heart attack or toxic venality by 2008, so we can take comfort in that.

Posted by: shortstop on April 25, 2006 at 11:06 AM | PERMALINK

The President, the Pope, Henry Kissinger, and a hippy were in a plane...yadda yadda...there are only three parachutes...yadda yadda...the President says "I am the leader of the free world so I must survive," takes a parachute and bails out. Yadda yadda...Henry Kissinger says "I am the smartest man in the world, so I must survive," takes a parachute, and jumps out.
Yadda yadda...the Pope turns to the hippy and says "leader of the church, sorry kid." The hippy says: "it's cool, man, the smartest man in the world took my backpack."

Posted by: Wombat on April 25, 2006 at 11:21 AM | PERMALINK

toxic venality by 2008

I like that phrase. But if venality were actually toxic, you can bet that the entire resources of the US government would be in use to find a cure right now.

Tripp: made me laugh!

Posted by: craigie on April 25, 2006 at 1:58 PM | PERMALINK

"I'll always be in England!"

WTF?

I believe you mean "There will always be an England!"

But point taken.

Posted by: craigie on April 25, 2006 at 2:00 PM | PERMALINK

waterfowl:

No, I blame the religious Zionists -- and Theodore Hertzl was a political Zionist. There were other places the Jews could have settled -- but it was kinda like The Lord of the Rings -- they craved that magic Biblical zone. And so they displaced Palestinians left and right, who had lived there for centuries. The real pattern of this behavior was established after 1948, and that's why it took the Stern Gang and other Israeli terrorist organizations to provide the ... incentive for Arab villagers to "move."

Had they taken a part of New Zealand, or Uganda, or somewhere else (these were proposals at the time, and I'm sure there were others), who knows how things might've turned out.

What's unequivocally wrong is to take European anti-semitism out of Mideastern peoples. Prior to '48, Arabs and Jews lived peacefully beside each other in the Holy Land. Afterwards, Jews fresh from the Nazi experience began seeing Nazi faces in their Arab neighbors ...

As for the phenomonen of hating the family on the block with the most status, power, wealth, looks, whatever -- it's simply a universal trait. The prettiest girls in class are resented. The smartest kid is a "curve wrecker." The best athlete is overtly admired and also secretly loathed. This has driven I don't know how many countless novels, short stories and folk tales. It's a universal human tendency; debating whether it's right or wrong, learned or innate, is kinda beside the point.

So it doesn't matter, waterfowl. Our heads of state and military could be princes among men and many parts of the world would still hate and fear them -- because we're the only remaining superpower. Add to this the *special* malice of Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld and it's quite a historical situation.

Saying that these guys will just blip off the screen of history -- as if they were equatable to, I dunno, gangsta rappers, is a statement too ideologically driven to be naive.

Bob

Posted by: rmck1 on April 25, 2006 at 2:09 PM | PERMALINK

out of = out on

Posted by: rmck1 on April 25, 2006 at 2:11 PM | PERMALINK

Bob,

Had [Zionists] taken a part of New Zealand, or Uganda, or somewhere else (these were proposals at the time, and I'm sure there were others), who knows how things might've turned out.

Ummm . . . okay. These would be completely unpopulated places, mid-20th-c.? No one would have been displaced?

What's unequivocally wrong is to take European anti-semitism out on Mideastern peoples. Prior to '48, Arabs and Jews lived peacefully beside each other in the Holy Land. Afterwards, Jews fresh from the Nazi experience began seeing Nazi faces in their Arab neighbors ...

Bob, the fact that every Arab state declared unconditional war on Israel the moment Palestine was partitioned possibly has something to do with that. You do not need "post-Holocaust-traumatic-disorder" (or whatever) to explain Israeli trepidation.

For that matter, pre-1948 there were Jewish communities in most Arab nations. Now there aren't. Why would that be?

As for the phenomonen of hating the family on the block with the most status, power, wealth, looks, whatever -- it's simply a universal trait.

Well, the universality seems to have skipped me. I just haven't the energy to be bothered "hating" whoever makes the most money on my block, or is the prettiest, or holds the highest political office, or can trace her colonial ancestry back the furthest. Frankly, I don't even have the energy to find out who it is I'm supposed to be "hating" for having these advantages. Sorry.

Posted by: waterfowl on April 25, 2006 at 3:12 PM | PERMALINK

Not bad. But it's a foolish world where more people hate Bush than hate the president of Sudan (Zimbabwe, Syria, Iran, Myanmar [actually, this is a clique of generals], Venezuela, Russia, ... .)

Posted by: republicrat on April 25, 2006 at 3:25 PM | PERMALINK

Outrageous. "So Three Guys are Stting in an

Posted by: Al on April 24, 2006 at 5:53 PM | PERMALINK>>>

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! This is a goog one! Great joke! Thanks. I need to remember this one...

Posted by: gd32104 on April 25, 2006 at 4:10 PM | PERMALINK

That's 6 billion people less most Iraqis. Polls show that a majority of Iraqis are thrilled to be free of Saddam and optimistic about the future, despite the current terrible security situation.

It's noteworthy that at rallies opposing Bush's Iraq policy, one seldom sees any Iraqis.

Posted by: David on April 25, 2006 at 6:41 PM | PERMALINK

And just how would you know that? BY attending many anti-Bush rallies?

On the other hand, the only Iraqis at pro-Bush rallies are the ones paid to be there and/or trying to bamboozle the US (e.g., Chalabi).

Posted by: David in NYC on April 26, 2006 at 7:21 PM | PERMALINK




 

 

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