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June 4, 2006

UNITY08....When Unity08 introduced itself this week, and unveiled a vague plan about a bi-partisan presidential ticket in 2008, it was easy to imagine journalists like David Broder, who love nothing more than centrist cooperation, jumping up and down. Right on cue, Broder had high praise for the initiative today.

In a wonderful example of life imitating art, a group of serious political pros has taken the plot line of "The West Wing" and turned it into the most intriguing gambit yet seen for the 2008 election.

As fans of the now-canceled NBC drama know, the closing episodes showed newly elected Democratic President Matt Santos offering the position of secretary of state to his defeated Republican rival, Sen. Arnold Vinick. The Great Reconciliation not only brought Jimmy Smits and Alan Alda together for the closing shows but also satisfied the audience's hunger for national harmony in a time of bitter partisanship.

That's also the motivation for the creators of Unity08, a scheme announced last week to put forward an alternative ticket for the next presidential race, joining a Democrat and a Republican or headed by an independent pledged to forming a bipartisan administration.

It all sounds very nice. Unity08 wants to form a ticket with candidates from the two parties -- one from each. It's effectively a third party presidential bid without an actual third party.

The group's pitch is overly-simplistic but largely inoffensive: Democrats and the GOP are "well-intentioned," but ultimately "trapped in a flawed system." Unity08 can take steps to address real problems, it claims, by tapping into online activism, a centrist platform, and a bipartisan ticket.

The idea, however, is not without flaws.

For one thing, like the "Purple Party" idea that New York magazine was touting a few weeks ago, Unity08 offers an agenda that sounds awfully similar to a Clintonian Democratic model. For example, the group explains that it wants to take on "crucial issues" that the two parties aren't addressing, including:

"global terrorism, our national debt, our dependence on foreign oil, the emergence of India and China as strategic competitors and/or allies, nuclear proliferation, global climate change, the corruption of Washington's lobbying system, the education of our young, the health care of all, and the disappearance of the American Dream for so many of our people."

The group goes on to say that culture-war issues such as "gun control, abortion and gay marriage" should be placed on the back burner while government deals with more pressing matters. All of this sounds eerily similar to what most of the Democratic establishemtn want to do right now. So who needs Unity08?

Perhaps more important are the practical concerns that Broder alluded to in his column. As Unity08 sees it, an experienced, well-qualified leader from each party is going to abandon their side, and take on their party's nominee in a presidential election, while running with a member from the other party. I'm not sure who the group has in mind, but I'm hard pressed to think of a lot of people who'd volunteer for the gig.

Also, in terms of style, Unity08 also offers an oddly mixed message. The group says it's intent on focusing on "ideas and traditions which unite and empower us as individuals and as a people," while in the next breath its website features an online game in which Howard Dean and Dick Cheney run over people with their car, accompanied by the message: "Gotcha! Another trip to Democracyland cut short by the parties and special interests!"

The whole thing comes across as a bit of a press stunt. I'll concede that there are some serious people involved with the project -- establishment types who are now railing against the establishment -- but it's an endeavor that's long on rhetoric, short on specifics, and more pie-in-the-sky than substance.

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Won't. Work.

Is the Pres gonna be the D or the R? That is the question that will send this idea crashing to the earth.

Posted by: reef the dog on June 4, 2006 at 1:18 PM | PERMALINK

Steve

I think it would be good idea to blog a few words on the latest example of the Bushlickers' swift boating tactics, i.e., the Jonah Lucianne's baseless claim re. Gore's statement about his visit to France when he was a teenager.

LA Times buried the correction on a Saturday, and Mr. Lucianne did not issue any retraction b y himself.

Posted by: lib on June 4, 2006 at 1:23 PM | PERMALINK

What reef said.

It also begs the question of financing the campaign. Who's going to pay? Who will they turn to for fundraising? All the current entrenched interests will likely stick with the party they already purchased (the Republicans), and the Democratic donor base is pretty unlikely to give to a ticket that moves even further away from Democratic principles--which such a ticket cannot avoid doing.

Certainly doesn't get my vote.

Posted by: Derelict on June 4, 2006 at 1:24 PM | PERMALINK

Is this the fallback position for John McCain and his acolytes?

It is hard to see how this goes anywhere when the most impassioned folks in both parties are, well, impassioned, and highly partisan. Unless there really is some sort of activist radical-middle heretofore silent majority, I don't see where the infrastructure, money and bodies come from.

Remember Grover Norquist famously called bipartisanship date rape. There are many on the left who agree. Until there is a real truce of sorts, hard to imagine as that is, this ain't going anywhere.

Posted by: Mimikatz on June 4, 2006 at 1:29 PM | PERMALINK

(What springs to mind is necking but not going all the way...)

Look, if you think Republicans have screwed up royally (and I certainly do), why reward them with a high office? Let's get them out of there -- as many as possible, as soon as possible, and for as long as possible!

Posted by: PWt on June 4, 2006 at 1:30 PM | PERMALINK

didn't kerry allegedly reach out to mccain two years ago? would have made for the most interesting convention in 40 or 50 years at least had he said yes.

Posted by: mudwall jackson on June 4, 2006 at 1:36 PM | PERMALINK

1 tiny little problem: the VP doesn't have very much power, apart from what the Pres chooses to delegate.

So as long as the Republican is VP, that would be great!

Posted by: Frank on June 4, 2006 at 1:38 PM | PERMALINK

Crackpot.

Posted by: frankly0 on June 4, 2006 at 1:40 PM | PERMALINK

if this thing actually came to be & they actually brought a "third party" in the next election, i wonder who it hurt more?

Posted by: gmf on June 4, 2006 at 1:41 PM | PERMALINK

How about the mischief element? As a Democrat, there's nothing I'd like better than to have a Republican head a unity ticket. That way they would sap strength from the Republican ticket.

Posted by: Wagster on June 4, 2006 at 1:46 PM | PERMALINK

Paralysis and infighting are good things. They lead to good government.

Laughable on its face. This sounds like a GOP ploy to save face and trick their way back to power. There should never be another GOP president based on the performance of this one. My God things are bad.

Here is a way to avoid nostalgia and crazy optimism for a better future: Kick the bastards out in 06, and impeach the ever living hell out of Signing Statement bike riding guy and his puppet master. Arrest the rest of the corrupt administration and get them out of government.

Spying, torture and massacres. O my!

Posted by: Sparko on June 4, 2006 at 1:48 PM | PERMALINK

It's a Joe Lieberman wet dream.

Posted by: anon for this one on June 4, 2006 at 1:51 PM | PERMALINK

Wow, yet another chance for the press to jerk off to the idea of McCain-Lieberman "saving" them from conservatives who can't govern (and are reactionary theocratic whackos, but that's not the problem the press/establishment has with them), and liberals who can't overcome Republican dirty tricks/tactics to win anything.

Unity08 is such a gloriously self-serving and shitty idea, ignorant of the way politics has been working for the last fifteen years, that of *course* the press - led by David Broder, the high prince of disappointment at partisanship despite his perch in a city of partisans - will be pleased that someone's proposing a third way that moderates Republicans slightly, but prevents Democrats from obtaining any political power. Fuck it.

Posted by: Chris on June 4, 2006 at 1:52 PM | PERMALINK

Oh, and fuck anyone who thinks this is a good idea for the country, or Democrats. I'm not sure it's a great idea for the GOP, but it'd beat the hell out of losing a house or two and the WH in 2008, so I would understand their acceptance of it as self-interest (though the tepid anti-Bush argument would be fun to watch them comprehend/assimilate into their worldview). But it's a stupid, anti-democratic, fucked-up idea, and anyone who promotes it - starting with David Broder - has nothing good in mind for Democrats or general political accountability.

Posted by: Chris on June 4, 2006 at 1:56 PM | PERMALINK

This is all about dumping the crony capitalists and the crony socialists. Good idea. But if it is such a good idea, why not just say it, run on the following theme:

"To hell with the socialists from either party"

Posted by: Matt on June 4, 2006 at 1:58 PM | PERMALINK

Ooh! Can't wait! Let's have a McCain-Lieberman Unity08 ticket and just flush the whole country down the toilet while we're at it! Shallow, stupid, unworkable -- it's got it all!

Sorry, but this whole Unity08 exercise isn't even worthy of saloon conversation at the end of a night of heavy drinking.

Posted by: Rob_in_Hawaii on June 4, 2006 at 2:02 PM | PERMALINK

There can only be one unity: moderates and liberals working together to end the Neocon Cabal's assault on our nation and our rights.

Their Religious wing is out to end our freedom of conscience. Pure and simple, we need unity to end this and to end them.

I suspect that this "Unity 08" might be a temporary place for Refugee Republicans who are not Neocons, but can't bring themselves to vote for a Democrat.

If that's the case, fine. And I actually find the idea appealing. Most democracies have more than two parties, and that creates a better market for the super market of ideas. If things were different I wouldn't mind this idea one bit.

Anything that undermines the right is fine with me, just as long as it doesn't undermine the real work of ending the Neocon cabal.

The Neocons are trying to take over conventional institutions and turn them in on themselves. The stories of their taking over mainline Protestant congregations is the most damning of all. So the idea of creating a third party based upon internet democracy is appealing to me. The Neocons took over the MSM only to get bit on the ass by the Internet Bloggers. Maybe this will be another way to undermine their movement.

Anything that works I am for.

Posted by: Bubbles on June 4, 2006 at 2:05 PM | PERMALINK

Good way to try to split up the impending Dem-centrist supermajority of the population opposed to the Republicans.

Posted by: matt on June 4, 2006 at 2:09 PM | PERMALINK

I am incredibly excited about the prospect of being able to take the worst, most indecisive elements from our two largest political parties and together agree to continue avoiding solving our nations' problems, problems which unfortunately require real and difficult answers instead of that beautiful myth of "compromise" and "the middle" where the answers never, never are.

Posted by: El CId on June 4, 2006 at 2:10 PM | PERMALINK

It all sounds very nice if you want a third presidential ticket designed to drain more votes from the Democratic candidate than from the Republican. Specifically: by appealing to the youth vote (the very 16-29ers who went for Kerry over bush by 54%-46%) and to people not obsessed with social issues (like abortion or gay marriage), which fits the description of many more Democrats than Republicans.

The founders may think themselves non-ideological, but they're no less effectively pro-Republican than Ralph Nader.

Posted by: Elton Beard on June 4, 2006 at 2:10 PM | PERMALINK

"global terrorism, our national debt, our dependence on foreign oil, the emergence of India and China as strategic competitors and/or allies, nuclear proliferation, global climate change, the corruption of Washington's lobbying system, the education of our young, the health care of all, and the disappearance of the American Dream for so many of our people."

The reason our politics isn't devoted to the discussion and resolution of those issues is precisely because the likes of Broder would rather talk about the color of Al Gore's suits or how often Bill and Hillary Clinton have sex.

Posted by: kth on June 4, 2006 at 2:10 PM | PERMALINK

They could just choose the Democratic and Republican candidates with the second most delegates at their nominating conventions. They could call it Loser/Loser 08.

Constitutionally the best way to handle this would be to choose as presidential candidate the person with a prediliction toward substance abuse or seizures. That way the VP would be able to hold the football a significant proportion of the time themselves.

Posted by: B on June 4, 2006 at 2:11 PM | PERMALINK

Well, the real problem here, as Prof. Bainbridge pointed out about the purple party, is that a true consensus party would be center-right, but the people who push this sort of national unity plan are all center-left. So they aren't going to get anywhere.

Posted by: wsm on June 4, 2006 at 2:14 PM | PERMALINK

LOL @ Rob_in_Hawaii:

McCain-Lieberman Unity08 ticket and just flush the whole country down the toilet while we're at it!

And just to punch the point home on how unworkably ludicrous this is...

Didn't Rob really mean: Lieberman-McCain?


PS: Trolls, pervs, repugs, and perps.
I finally got my email corrected.
Send all your nasty germs there please.
Posthaste.

Posted by: koreyel on June 4, 2006 at 2:15 PM | PERMALINK

Basically it's rehab for Republicans who can't bring themselves to vote Democratic.

Other than that, largely irrelevant.

Posted by: LiberalMinded on June 4, 2006 at 2:19 PM | PERMALINK

This is disappointing. I was hoping "Unity08" was a new pop band or designer drug. At least that way there'd be a chance of enjoying it.

Slow down people. This is a neutral concept. It isn't good or bad on it's face. But that's the problem. It requires a case-by-case evaluation of whatever two politicians would be paired and who would lead the ticket. For example, a Kerry-McCain ticket may well have put Kerry in the White House. But I doubt the reverse would have been true.

The best chance this would have is if either a Dem or Repub presumptive nominee would name someone from the opposing party for the VP slot (like Kerry-McCain). It makes a lot less sense as a third party because whatever party heads the Unity08 ticket will be accused of splitting votes from that party.

But the bottom line is that the GOP has been so corrupt, arrogant, and incompetent that no one should cast another vote for them for at least a generation or two.

Posted by: Snarkster on June 4, 2006 at 2:25 PM | PERMALINK

that a true consensus party would be center-right, but the people who push this sort of national unity plan are all center-left

I don't know. I'd love to see a pragmatic good government party that pushed things like 1) an anti-gerrymandering amendment, 2) real campaign finance reform, 3) federal sunshine rules, 4) public audits of government agencies, 5) strict anti-corruption and anti-pork laws, 6) constitutionally defined house and senate rules, 7) national standards for elections . . . .

Anyway, there is probably a way to build a consensus party that has a broad appeal. Of course, members might be better off pushing narrow state ballot measures than serving in the house or senate.

Posted by: B on June 4, 2006 at 2:27 PM | PERMALINK

This is a great idea!

The right has bled us white, but it finds itself on the brink of electoral disaster in 2006 and worse in 2008.

How will the moderates, who stand for nothing but the status quo, continue to participate in the distribution of money and power if the left takes control?

Enter "Unity08." What a concept. Promote the center and provide shelter to the right. And the left is left out again. Because who needs unions, education, medical care, environmental protection, peace, and welfare in a society that continues to benefit the few who really matter?

Posted by: centered on June 4, 2006 at 2:28 PM | PERMALINK

One problem is that this notion is conceived of to appeal to D.C. "centrist" types, who haven't done squat for the citizens of this country and aren't likely to change. Besides, if Broder likes it you can pretty much peg it as another useless pundit wet dream.

Posted by: Michael on June 4, 2006 at 2:28 PM | PERMALINK

So as long as the Republican is VP, that would be great!

Are you kidding?- that's mostly a plan for a dead Democrat, thanks to some wingnut or another.

Posted by: latts on June 4, 2006 at 2:29 PM | PERMALINK

I love the argument that since the extreme, fifty-plus-one one-party rule of the last six years, aided and abetted by the David Broders of the world, has pehaps irreparably damaged our country, we don't need to elect Democrats, but simply Republican-lites.

If Broder had any guts or any brains, he would be writing every week about Republican lies, corruption and incompetence. That is the reason we are in the mess we are in today. Otherwise, he should shut his lying old fart face up.

Posted by: brewmn on June 4, 2006 at 2:34 PM | PERMALINK

Desperate, despicable, and disgusting attempt by Republicans and corporatists to hang on to power.

Posted by: lib on June 4, 2006 at 2:41 PM | PERMALINK

Sweet. So if Hitler had named de Gaulle as his number two man, all would have been forgiven?

Posted by: Snarkster on June 4, 2006 at 2:52 PM | PERMALINK

Gore/Hagel
Al can save the planet and Chuck can fix the vote

Posted by: rico on June 4, 2006 at 3:00 PM | PERMALINK

Stupid. Third party candidates always end up being spoilers.

It's the electoral system that causes the two party system. Not a "failure of will" or some kind of ineffable inability of the electorate to understand why we "need a change."

Until you change the underlyling electoral method, "Unity08" is just going to be another spoiler. Like Nader and Perot.

Posted by: tim on June 4, 2006 at 3:22 PM | PERMALINK

Any idea supported by Hamilton Jordan and David Brodetr bears a strong presumption of stupidity, but this one could work to our advantage, precisely because it wouldn't work out the way these cocktail weenies would expect, divorced as they are from how people really feel about their Beltway favorites.
Third parties often provide a useful exit for voters who are no longer comfortable with their party. The first step to getting disaffected moderate Republicans into the Democratic party is getting them out of the Republican party. You don't switch from a Packers fan to a Vikings fan overnight.
With that in mind, this seems like the perfect job for Joe Lieberman. In Connecticut, he's more popular with Republicans than Democrats. If he could run with somebody like Chuck Hagel, Olympia Snowe, or Mike Castle, he'd almost certainly pull more support from Republicans than Democrats.

Posted by: Ron Thompson on June 4, 2006 at 3:40 PM | PERMALINK

Couldn't work: Lieberman can't run for both Pres and VP.

Posted by: ColoZ on June 4, 2006 at 3:49 PM | PERMALINK

When Republican popularity is just slightly lower than leprosy, how convenient that there is a push for a "bipartisan" ticket. How damn gullible do you think Dems are? A few Dems might vote this ticket, while not a single right-wing stooge would vote for it - Result? A split Democrat ticket and a narrow GOP victory.

No I think a crushing defeat and repudiation of the GOP is long past due. Let the battle begin.

Posted by: Stephen Kriz on June 4, 2006 at 3:57 PM | PERMALINK

Broder & Co need to go back and read up on the 1860 Breckinridge campaign.

Posted by: Davis X. Machina on June 4, 2006 at 4:09 PM | PERMALINK

It all sounds very nice if you want a third presidential ticket designed to drain more votes from the Democratic candidate than from the Republican. Specifically: by appealing to the youth vote (the very 16-29ers who went for Kerry over bush by 54%-46%) and to people not obsessed with social issues (like abortion or gay marriage), which fits the description of many more Democrats than Republicans.

The founders may think themselves non-ideological, but they're no less effectively pro-Republican than Ralph Nader.

Posted by: Elton Beard on June 4, 2006 at 4:13 PM | PERMALINK

It all sounds very nice if you want a third presidential ticket designed to drain more votes from the Democratic candidate than from the Republican. Specifically: by appealing to the youth vote (the very 16-29ers who went for Kerry over bush by 54%-46%) and to people not obsessed with social issues (like abortion or gay marriage), which fits the description of many more Democrats than Republicans.

The founders may think themselves non-ideological, but they're no less effectively pro-Republican than Ralph Nader.

Posted by: Elton Beard on June 4, 2006 at 4:17 PM | PERMALINK

Multiple apologies for the multiple posts. Thought I was just hitting "reload". Moderator, feel free to delete the excess.

Posted by: Elton Beard on June 4, 2006 at 4:19 PM | PERMALINK

Agree completely, this is something dreamed up strictly for the gullible -- which naturally includes the DC press corps. It's not even a new thing: the Perot phenomenon in early '92 was build on the same premise -- a GOP president was clearly going down, but a Democrat winning was unthinkable. (The reverse was somewhat true in 1980, with Anderson/Lucey providing a comfortable stopping point for GOPers who couldn't se themselves as Reagan voters)

Whoever said the country is naturally center-right is 1) ignoring all those issue polls that show Dems hold the upper hand and 2) holding to an old paradigm. You could as surely have said the country was center-left in the 60s, even 70s (with Dem super-majorities in Congress) -- it didn't mean the old order couldn't crumble quickly.

There's every reason to believe Ruy Texeira's Emerging Dem Majority theory can soon become reality (with a big boost from the undeniable failures of Bush & Co.). Schemes like this Unity thing are pure attempts to stave it off.

Posted by: demtom on June 4, 2006 at 4:24 PM | PERMALINK

Of course this idea isn't without flaws...little in life is as simplistic as many here would like to believe. BUT, it is creative, daring, different...doing SOMETHING besides piss and moan about how rotten things are now. Shows some imagination that is also sadly lacking in both parties. The biggest hurtle to this I see right off the bat is finding a Repug and a Dem that are worth putting together...and/or an independent with the veritas to pull others together. Could be interesting to watch, though.

Posted by: Dancer on June 4, 2006 at 4:38 PM | PERMALINK

Unity 08. The party that will let you get half an abortion.

Posted by: Alan in SF on June 4, 2006 at 5:13 PM | PERMALINK

Utter nonsense. But, of course, it will suck in a good number of morons, the same who voted for Ralph Nader because there was no difference between Gore and Bush. How'd that work out, fellas? See any differences now?

Posted by: Pat on June 4, 2006 at 5:33 PM | PERMALINK

How do people arrive at these ridiculous notions, that if we can just moosh a Democrat and Republican together they will be hand & hand, everything will be sweetness and light, and everything will get compromised at some advantageous middle-ground ?

One party wants to bolster and shore-up Social Security, while the other wants to scrap it and give it to Wall Street to feed from. There is no middle-ground there.

One party wants to raise the federal Minimum Wage, while the other party wants to eliminate it. There is no middle-ground there.

One party wants to invest in and improve our system of public education, while the other party wants to privatize it. There is no middle-ground there.

The list is endless.

People have to CHOOSE.
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Posted by: VJ on June 4, 2006 at 5:44 PM | PERMALINK

The Deaniacs think that what they have in mind is Deanism.

What they have in mind is Hillary-Clintonism.

And the only real threat to Hillary-Clintonism in 2008 is Rudolph-Giuliani-ism, even if the dumb, lumbering press still believes it is John-McCain-ism.

It is a shame that all of these isms are stupid and middlebrow, but then this is America what do you expect?

Posted by: Linus on June 4, 2006 at 5:50 PM | PERMALINK

What about Colin Powell--Wesley Clark. They could declare martial law and really get some things done in this country!

Posted by: ecoboz on June 4, 2006 at 6:22 PM | PERMALINK

For example, the group explains that it wants to take on "crucial issues" that the two parties aren't addressing, including "global terrorism, our national debt, our dependence on foreign oil, the emergence of India and China as strategic competitors and/or allies, nuclear proliferation, global climate change, the corruption of Washington's lobbying system, the education of our young, the health care of all, and the disappearance of the American Dream for so many of our people."

Well, we had a president who prioritized all of those things and was quite successful at it. His name was Clinton and the Republians didn't like him very much. So it's a bit hard to see where the bipartisanship is going to come from.

Posted by: expatjourno on June 4, 2006 at 6:27 PM | PERMALINK

It all sounds very nice if you want a third presidential ticket designed to drain more votes from the Democratic candidate than from the Republican.

Gee...

What forces in America could possible wish something like that?

Posted by: koreyel on June 4, 2006 at 6:28 PM | PERMALINK

Why is it, when Bush and the GOP are riding high in the polls, Unity08 is nowhere to be found? Only when the Democrats have a chance of winning big in 2006 and 2008 does this so-called organization make an appearance.

This another example of black ops playing out in the mainstream media. Ignore it. What our political system needs are two effective political parties. We have a chance in November of making that happen. Don't let dirty tricks like this get in the way.

Posted by: Alan on June 4, 2006 at 6:34 PM | PERMALINK

Wish I could remember who it was who did an analysis about six or eight years ago of the New York Times' reporting and commentaries from the Reagan years onward . Whoever it was demonstrated that the NYTimes would like to see a one-party system. I guess it's tidier that way. You don't have to think as much. And it's much less work. And the corruption is so much less noxious because we're all making out like bandits from it.

Posted by: PW on June 4, 2006 at 6:46 PM | PERMALINK

We already have a centrist party. They're called DEMOCRATS.

Posted by: DK2 on June 4, 2006 at 7:15 PM | PERMALINK

"The group goes on to say that culture-war issues such as "gun control, abortion and gay marriage" should be placed on the back burner while government deals with more pressing matters. All of this sounds eerily similar to what most of the Democratic establishemtn want to do right now. So who needs Unity08?"

Show me a Democrat who says "We need to put abortion & gay marriage on the back burner" & I'll show you someone so savaged by the liberal blogosphere he/she'd make the DLC seem like the Dean campaign by comparison.

Clintonian? possibly. But Clintonism doesen't have too many fans in the Democratic party, if it ever did.

Posted by: Dustin Ridgeway on June 4, 2006 at 7:50 PM | PERMALINK

Having a VP of the opposite Party of the Pres is a recipe for Assasination. Remember Lincoln Ran on a Unity Campaign in 1964 with a Southern Democrat. Then Lincoln was Assasinated by someone who supported Southern Democrats. The Assasination was a resounding success: Andrew Johnson went on to implement policies antithetical to Lincoln and the congressional Republicans.

With Pres and VP of the same party, Assasinations (or Politically motivated impeachment) have no political effect. Gore would replace Clinton, Cheney would replace Bush.

If Bob Dole were Clinton's VP or John Kerry were Bush's VP, I don't think those men would have survived.

If Kerry had been elected with McCain as his VP, Kerry would be dead now, killed by an Anti-Abortion Fanatic of the likes of Michael Griffin, Tim McVeigh or Randall Terry. Those men should not be allowed to "vote with a bullet."

Posted by: Mike Lee on June 5, 2006 at 1:58 AM | PERMALINK

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Posted by: dfds on June 5, 2006 at 2:55 AM | PERMALINK

This must be a joke...

The solution to the inherent problems of a two-party system is... (wait for it) a one-party system, masquerading as a 3rd party!

By the way... the life-imitates-art meme used, referring to the West Wing plot, isn't quite correct: in that show, a Democratic president-elect selected his GOP opponent, an intelligent man of honor, to be his Secretary of State. AFTER the election. It wasn't a bipartisan ticket that was elected by the people. I'm just sayin'...

Posted by: RobW on June 5, 2006 at 3:45 AM | PERMALINK

Instead of carping and beating around the bush, I'll try and ' carpe diem'.
Assuming motives as pure as the driven snow for all this and some candidate like Jesse 'ace' Ventura ( or that ' Monsoon' guy ) is found then here are my platform tips.
1) Fix the democratic process - we all know it's compromised since 2000 and has delivered the disasterous outcomes we are now suffering.
2) Hand's the fuck off the internet or you die - yr choice so do you feel lucky?
3) Sign on to world court and ship the war criminals out. recognize America as a fundamentally LIBERAL nation. And also a good republic - NOT some trashy evil empire.
4) Deport fascist terrorists such as J. Yoo and A. Gonzales and M. Malkin.
5) Single payer universal health cover.
6) Estate tax increase
7) No police in bedrooms , living rooms and kitchens. End to failed prohibitions on some drugs, abortion and sex work.
8) End domestic spying and all torture and cruel and unusual punishments.
9) Regional Shengen and common currency agreements as a high priority item - for the whole hemisphere.
10) Replace Venezuela as major oil source. Tactical retreat to the Murtha line and full strategic review of GWOT.
11) Move to a balanced budget with a promise to reduce the overall size of the state. Mainly through cuts in military programs like ' Star Wars'. This will mean overall tax cuts in the long run as the state sector shrinks.
12) Move to repeal two old laws for every new law passed and insert sunset clause in all new laws.
13) Anti-trust law to be strictly enforced against all MSM conglogerates.
14) Anti-fraud law to be strictly enforced against all GOP freepers.
15) Crimes against the constitution and perjury punishments to include life imprisonment. Three strikes and your in. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.
16) Strict enforcement of the wall between church and state. Church's to be taxed as corporations.
17) All social security recipients to have access to brothel vouchers.
18) State to encourage psychadelics as healthy alternative to harmful tobacco and alcohol.
19) Move to sustainable energy and transport options. Appropriate technologies inc. Stem cells research.
20) This is the wwweb - lets hear from you. All the time. All public servants will have to live in a total ' Brinworld'.

Posted by: professor rat on June 5, 2006 at 4:20 AM | PERMALINK

"Show me a Democrat who says "We need to put abortion & gay marriage on the back burner" & I'll show you someone so savaged by the liberal blogosphere..."

If that is the case, then why is your President holding a press conference advocating a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage today, you lying fuckwit? Both of your parents should have married members of the opposite sex or had an abortion to prevent shitstains like you from infecting the world with your stupidity.

Posted by: brewmn on June 5, 2006 at 10:41 AM | PERMALINK

Unity 08:
We're in a one-party system. Why pretend?

Posted by: Osama_Been_Forgotten on June 5, 2006 at 1:48 PM | PERMALINK

simply fucking stupid. anything punditocracy's panty-sniffer-in-chief gets behind is bound to be full of manure.

Posted by: mencken on June 5, 2006 at 4:00 PM | PERMALINK

Lotsa posters here figured out that this is just a scam, a back-door attempt to try to minimimize the losses to the Repukes after the electorate (70% anyway) has finally seen that the Chimperor has no clothes. Good work. But to assume that John and Jane Sixpack will see thru the scam as well and as quickly -- or would even care that it was a scam -- would be risky. Fortunately, it's likely that most Rethug Congresscritters would still think that they can hold on to their seats, even as the electorate turns against the party -- much as some of our worst have managed to hold onto their seats by sucking up to the Republican powers that be -- or have been. So this nonsense is unlikely to become a real threat. Bears watching though.
BTW -- my additions to Prof Rat's 4:20am wish list:
21: For any pol, bureaucrat, lobbyist, commercial spokesperson, flak or hack who claims that Plan X will generate Result A (what was that again? "Six weeks, six days... I doubt six months"? And: "Will cost $50B at most; the oil revenues will make reconstruction self-financing." And: "Cutting taxes creates jobs!" And my favorite local example, since I live in Boston: "Abolishing rent control will mean fewer homeless people, as investors build new housing." And cetera, ad nauseam.)... If your plan is implemented and your predicted results don't come to pass: death penalty. Everyone else has to bear the consequences of your bullshit -- so share them. I bet we'd suddenly see just a bit less political BS; what do you think?
22: While I'm at it, I wish I had a pony.

Posted by: smartalek on June 5, 2006 at 5:06 PM | PERMALINK

Lotsa posters here figured out that this is just a scam, a back-door attempt to try to minimimize the losses to the Repukes after the electorate (70% anyway) has finally seen that the Chimperor has no clothes. Good work. But to assume that John and Jane Sixpack will see thru the scam as well and as quickly -- or would even care that it was a scam -- would be risky. Fortunately, it's likely that most Rethug Congresscritters would still think that they can hold on to their seats, even as the electorate turns against the party -- much as some of our worst have managed to hold onto their seats by sucking up to the Republican powers that be -- or have been. So this nonsense is unlikely to become a real threat. Bears watching though.
BTW -- my additions to Prof Rat's 4:20am wish list:
21: For any pol, bureaucrat, lobbyist, commercial spokesperson, flak or hack who claims that Plan X will generate Result A (what was that again? "Six weeks, six days... I doubt six months"? And: "Will cost $50B at most; the oil revenues will make reconstruction self-financing." And: "Cutting taxes creates jobs!" And my favorite local example, since I live in Boston: "Abolishing rent control will mean fewer homeless people, as investors build new housing." And cetera, ad nauseam.)... If your plan is implemented and your predicted results don't come to pass: death penalty. Everyone else has to bear the consequences of your bullshit -- so share them. I bet we'd suddenly see just a bit less political BS; what do you think?
22: While I'm at it, I wish I had a pony.

Posted by: smartalek on June 5, 2006 at 5:14 PM | PERMALINK

ak -- pls forgive double-post; I got an error message that said it didn't take, and to wait and re-try, but it obviously had.

Posted by: smartalek on June 5, 2006 at 5:16 PM | PERMALINK

the time has come for us to takr back our country and make it good again that is all i want liberty and justice for all follow all the rules in place they will work if we enforce them. what a relief to know all is not dead after all there is a light at the end of the tunnel thanks to you i see the glimmer.

Posted by: roxane ramsey on June 5, 2006 at 8:02 PM | PERMALINK

the time has come for us to take back our country and make it good again that is all i want liberty and justice for all follow all the rules in place they will work if we enforce them. what a relief to know all is not dead after all there is a light at the end of the tunnel thanks to you i see the glimmer.

Posted by: roxane ramsey on June 5, 2006 at 8:04 PM | PERMALINK

the time has come for us to take back our country and make it good again that is all i want liberty and justice for all follow all the rules in place they will work if we enforce them. what a relief to know all is not dead after all there is a light at the end of the tunnel thanks to you i see the glimmer.

Posted by: roxane ramsey on June 5, 2006 at 8:05 PM | PERMALINK

Clueless. Out of touch. Completely seperated from reality.

Welcome to inside the beltway and all here who worship at its alter.

Wake up, There are millions out here in "flyover" land who undertstand what this unity08.com thing is about and "get it."

Start to learn: http://www.radicalmiddle.com/x_unity08.htm

Idiots.

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