Not that it affects your overall point, but Diamond should probably be put in a different category - not a Bush aide, nor (I think) a Republican or even a member of the administration.

The tell all books are going to be coming fast and furious in 2009.

There may be a trickle at first, but turn into a flood once folks realize the only way to distance themselves from the @#)%*-up that (was) the Bush administration will be to claim that they were lone voices of reason of reason amongst the kool aid krazies. Books, interviews, documentaries.

Yes, the judgement of history sometimes happens fairly quickly. It won't be kind, but it may offer a moments passing amusement to the sane of us as we go about the business of shifting through the rubble of our democracy.

...the rubble of our democracy.

you assume a fair, orderly and widely-accepted election.

not me

Wait until the president leaves! "I never believed a word of it - Dick Cheney threatened to shoot my dog if I didn't go along with it!"

Too bad more of them didn't have the courage to do this when it could have an impact.

Amazing how many of these guys are trying to scurry away now that the ship is sinking, isn't it?

I denounce the American males' obsession with sex.

The bell has begun to toll for the Bush Administration's enablers and they want to avoid long prison terms.

Diamond should probably be put in a different category

He was on the payroll for 3 months and is a senior fellow of the Hoover Institution.

It's amazing, isn't it, the number of Bush aides who develop sudden attacks of candor as soon as they leave the administration and are no longer drinking the Kool-Aid?

It isn't so much amazing as an inevitable confirmation that candor is contrary to the policy of this White House.

It's amazing, isn't it, the number of Bush aides who develop sudden attacks of candor as soon as they leave the administration and are no longer drinking the Kool-Aid?

As usual Kevin cherry picks a few former administration officials to prove his "point." So you have picked THREE people who disagree with Bush. Here's a former official who AGREES with Bush.

Link

"There's no question that this is going to stiffen up in the long run the resolve of the Europeans in dealing with Iran," said Henri J. Barkey, a former State Department official who teaches at Lehigh University. "Even if they don't like what Israel is doing," he said, they will recognize that Iran "is a menace."

Cleek,

I don't assume an fair, orderly election. I assume a nasty, underhanded, downright evil campaign from some desperate Republicans, creating even more rubble to sift through.

I merely have some optimism that, at the end of the day, there's enough strength and decency left in our country that some level of sanity will, in the end, prevail.

Al,

The list goes on and on. Please state your opinion of how you think history will view this administration.

Al: KD still has you beat 3-1.

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Please state your opinion of how you think history will view this administration.
Posted by: BG on August 1, 2006 at 12:58 PM | PERMALINK

History will view this administration exactly how FoxNews tells them to.

And then there is Jimmy Carter's op-ed in the Washington Post today, and before anyone for the centrist Dem choral group can denounce Carter from being a lefty-liberal, and perhaps the reason why Kevin doesn't even mention Carter at all, is that Carter is absolutly right despite centrist Dem hate for Carter.

But something even Carter barely scratches the surface but certainly deserves more attention here is comment:

It is inarguable that Israel has a right to defend itself against attacks on its citizens, but it is inhumane and counterproductive to punish civilian populations in the illogical hope that somehow they will blame Hamas and Hezbollah for provoking the devastating response.

The Israel's took something right out of Bush's play book - "projectism". When the Bush administration fail to show up with National Guardsman after Katrina, Bush quickly said it was the fault of state government, for not doing this, even though it very clearly was indefensible for the current administration NOT to have the National Guard out to help victims of the hurricane right after Katrina made landfall.

When 9/11 happened, Bush blamed Bill Clinton, despite the fact the Bush was clearly warned about terrorist wanting to hijack US aircraft on the August 6th briefing.

Now the Israelis try the same illogical tatic that Bush continuely uses and gets a free pass-on by the press.

Surely the news anchor Edward R. Murrow would have called a spade a spade, but not todays press members, all bunch of Judith Millers wana-bes. It is not partisan act to hold the Bush administration accountable for it's truly illogical tatics. This is why the national press is lossing it's public. The major news players have all surrender to partisan fear and refuse to apply logical, rational, honest reporting.

Todays press members don't deserve a sheild law to hide behind. Judith Miller certainly didn't deserve one. There are no Edward R. Murrow's worth protecting in todays press corp.

Sorta off topic, but does anyone ever wonder what the chinese language posts say? Have the folks who run Political Animal ever translated them?

Just wondering...

特亚雅图十三弟弟哦！！

They say that Bush is an idiot!!

据斯克阿

安么阿

There is no word for 'idiot' in Chinese.

All they have is something that roughly means 'utterly clueless moron worshipped by idiots'.

Glenn Hubbard's writings on economic issues have radically improved since he resigned from the CEA and Greg Mankiw's writings are coming around.

"Who will be next?"

hah, I had to laugh when I read...

" "I never believed a word of it - Dick Cheney threatened to shoot my dog if I didn't go along with it!""

roflmao!

The really sad part is is that I can see George W. Bush actually saying something to that effect to Tim Russert, or to -snark- Dr. Phil.
I predict that Cheney will be blamed for everything by everyone in the Republican party, in fact, even the Neocons will blame Cheney. Hell, I'm willing to bet the Israeli's will blame Cheney too!

Not amazing, so much, as depressing.

Q. Why does Dick Cheney hate America?
A. He hates our freedom

What I'm curious about it what Bush will be doing once he leaves office. Nixon was before my time, and Reagan was out of the spotlight for health reasons. But other than Ford, it seems like most former presidents linger in the spotlight. Can anyone really see Bush doing stints on Larry King, or writing or even reading books?

My guess is that not being president is going to seriously cut into his bike-riding time and he'll probably put on some weight, and hang around at baseball games a lot.

I'm always reminded of Ed Harris's line from Stone's NIXON:

John, sooner or later. Sooner, I think, you're gonna learn a lesson that's been learned by everyone who's ever gotten close to Richard Nixon. That he's the darkness reaching out for the darkness. And eventually, its either you or him. Your grave's already been dug John.

"There's no question that this is going to stiffen up in the long run the resolve of the Europeans in dealing with Iran"

Hmm. "This", whatever Joe Clueless means, is going to stiffen EU resolve, but not in a way that US oligarchs are going to like. Their famous "empire" has not crossed the Atlantic.

Bush is still the most popular post-9/11 president in this century! On this planet! Stupid liberals!

The dissidents will be dealt with before January 20, 2009.

My guess is that not being president is going to seriously cut into his bike-riding time and he'll probably put on some weight, and hang around at baseball games a lot.
Posted by: enozinho on August 1, 2006 at 1:48 PM | PERMALINK

My guess is that the neocon cabal will "rub him out" (ie. find a body that looks kind of like him, while the real GWB gets a nose job, and retires on some pacific island somewhere).
Then GWB will be knighted, posthumously, sainted, put on the $3 bill, and Mt Rushmore - and worst of all, have an aircraft carrier named after him. Or maybe the Main Street of New Orleans.

Colin Powell would make headlines

'utterly clueless moron worshipped by idiots'.

nut I ran it through the auto-translator and you were off on the last word. It should read 'utterly clueless moron worshipped by spineless idolators.'

Rove can expect his share of blame from historians, too. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, etc. may have dreamt everything up, but Karl sold it.

And what the hell did we expect? Imagine if Lee Atwater had a "policy" job in a GOP West Wing?

Thank's to the guys above for translating. I always suspected they said something like 'Stupid foreign barbarians follow insane monkey' or something like that.

What I'm curious about it what Bush will be doing once he leaves office.

Drinking. Heavily.

The current Chinese stuff is Simplified Chinese spam trying to sell cheap arline tickets.

Specifically airplane tickets out of Beijing.

Kevin,

Can you change the template so that the author is listed ahead of the comment? That would make it much easier to skip past of Al's comments. Even better would be to wrap each comment in some author-tagged span or div or whatever. That way we could easily use greasemonkey to deAlify your comments.

Free pizza would also be nice.

Henri J. Barkey isn't a former Bush aide; he served in the State Department under Clinton.

I'd like to see Powell, Card, or Rumsfeld, get honest after leaving the bubble - but what's the chance of that?

I'd like to see Powell, Card, or Rumsfeld, get honest after leaving the bubble - but what's the chance of that?

Man, when will you be at the Improv...that line was a great start to a stellar career in stand up...

Comedy at its best...I am still laughing...

What is wrong with Al plying his (or her) free speech? We get a good chuckle and Al's spittle-flecked rantings wash his (or her) monitor.

That chinese stuff is Bush actually trying to defend his administration but hasn't learned where the "Turn Off Chinese Language" button is.

It was an old joke left over from the Clinton days.

As far as I know Larry Diamond is a lifelong Democrat (I remember him as a hard-charging campaign organizer in his college days), drafted by Rice (via Stanford connection) to help with "democratization" in Iraq. In his book he seems to have been pretty critical of the occupation even before arriving in Iraq, especially concerning the US effort to keep the UN out of any meaningful role.

As far as I know Larry Diamond is a lifelong Democrat

Count him as one of those who thought the rehetoric might not just be rhetoric and the president might not be insulated from policy experts.

What I'm curious about it what Bush will be doing once he leaves office. Nixon was before my time, and Reagan was out of the spotlight for health reasons.

I have it on good authority that he is going to become a country singer. That's why he spent all that time drinking in bars. In fact, he was slow getting to work on Katrina because he was busy getting singing lessons from Garth Brooks.

bobo the chimp: I have it on good authority that he [Bush] is going to become a country singer. That's why he spent all that time drinking in bars.

Hopefully he'll take the Johnny Cash route and do some hard time too.

"because he was busy getting singing lessons from Garth Brooks." - Bobo the Chimp

Getting singing lessons from Garth Brooks is like getting hunting lessons from Dick Cheney.

Johnny Cash never served time. He is associated with prisons because he recorded while performing for inmates in California.

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"What I'm curious about it what Bush will be doing once he leaves office."

If he gets really lucky, some pissed off Iraqi/Lebanese person will wipe him out.

One can only hope.

RE: Chinese posts

The 1:06PM post up there is an ad for several "5 star" whorehouses.

The one just above me there is a long list of companies, their websites, and (wildly exaggerated) service descriptions.

Typical Blog-spam, in other words.

Hmm. "This", whatever Joe Clueless means, is going to stiffen EU resolve, but not in a way that US oligarchs are http://www.ggfm.info/sitemap.htm going to like. Their famous "empire" has not crossed the Atlantic.

Thank you for your explanation Taiwan Expat.

Let me restate the argument in a way that I hope will make progressive realism's considerable relevance to the problem of non-state terrorist groups clearer.