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August 2, 2006

"A COMPLETE RENAISSANCE"....Tony Blair spoke in Los Angeles today. The Guardian reports:

Tony Blair called for a fundamental reappraisal of British and US foreign policy yesterday, admitting that excessive emphasis on military power and failure to address the Palestinian issue had left the west losing the battle for hearts and minds in the Middle East.

In a speech to the World Affairs Council in Los Angeles, the prime minister admitted "we are far from persuading those we need to persuade" that western values were even-handed, fair and just in their application. He said there was no point disguising the damage being done to the cause of peace in the Middle East by the war on the Lebanese border, but suggested that when the war finally ended "we must commit ourselves to a complete renaissance of our strategy to defeat those that threaten us".

I don't know if he really means it, and if he does mean it I don't know if he has any chance of getting anyone in the Bush administration to pay any attention to him. But at least he seems to be saying the right things. It's not much, but I'll take it.

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Ah Tony Blair has finally lost it. Congrats Tony, you're welcome to the Jimmy Carter Appeasers Society!

Posted by: Donkey_Courage on August 2, 2006 at 2:20 AM | PERMALINK

..the prime minister admitted "we are far from persuading those we need to persuade" that western values were even-handed, fair and just in their application..

Yo Blair. Those who we need to persude are not morons. You cannot persuade them that which is blatantly false..

Posted by: nut on August 2, 2006 at 2:27 AM | PERMALINK

"we must commit ourselves to a complete renaissance of our strategy to defeat those that threaten us"

Take note wingnuts. We'd be all for bombing the Arabs back the middle-ages (which is where the Islamo-Fascist Conspiracy aims to take us) if it sounded sweet like this. Learn to roll your r's and I'll follow you anywhere.

Posted by: enozinho on August 2, 2006 at 2:35 AM | PERMALINK

LOL, enozinho, but we already rejected John F-in Kerry!

Posted by: Thomas on August 2, 2006 at 2:46 AM | PERMALINK

Blair is much worse for the world than GWB could ever be. His sweet talking is false cowboy bravado wrapped in texas horseshit borrowed from Bush.

Posted by: gregor on August 2, 2006 at 2:54 AM | PERMALINK

Good for you, then, he's not running again, gregor. I was shocked to find out this trip is the first ever by a sitting British Prime Minister to the West Coast.

The term "Renaissance" is the French translation for the Italian word rinascita, used by French historian Jules Michelet, and expanded upon by Swiss historian Jacob Burckhardt (both in the 1860s). Rebirth is used in two ways. First, it means rediscovery of ancient classical texts and learning and their applications in the arts and sciences. Second, it means that the results of these intellectual activities created a revitalization of European culture in general. Thus it is possible to speak of the historical Renaissance in two different but meaningful ways: A rebirth of classical learning and knowledge through the rediscovery of ancient texts, and therefore supposedly a rebirth of European culture in general.

Posted by: Thomas on August 2, 2006 at 2:56 AM | PERMALINK

Tony Blair....Heart Attack?,Plane Crash?,Suicide?,Death by Small Boat?...............................................................Two CIA(FBI,MI5,MI6,ect.) meet and are talking about colleagues. One says"Did you hear Joe Blow died" Other says "Small plane crash or heart attack?".

Posted by: R.L. on August 2, 2006 at 2:57 AM | PERMALINK

What are you talking about, R.L.?

On May 14, 2006, the Independent on Sunday reported that Blair had privately assured ministers that he would step down in the summer of 2007. It is widely predicted that he will be succeeded by the Chancellor of the Exchequer Gordon Brown. What do you think of Brown, gregor?

Posted by: Thomas on August 2, 2006 at 3:00 AM | PERMALINK

The unpopularity in the UK of Blair's foreign policies and the embarassment of the "Yo, Blair!" conversation is finally prising GW's coattails out of Tony's hands.

The Foreign Secretary and Foreign Office particualrly, plus significant number of Labour MPs, wanted Blair to convey to GW last Friday the need for an immediate ceasefire in Lebanon. The British Army is overcommitted, deaths are becoming more frequent. The electorate was never for the Iraq war and only gave grudging support immediately following the invasion.

The revolt is reaching a level where politics are returning to greater cabinet reponsibility and less presidential-style leadership.

Wonder if this presages something similar here leading up to the election, and after, also, if the Repugs take a walloping -- especially if Iraq and Afghanistan continue deteriorating and who knows what with Lebanon and Palestine.

Of course, Blair can make a soundbite all he likes, but the UK can't change a thing. Unless he moves Bush over there's no change. And the whole Islamic world will be looking for actions not words.

I wonder if he saw this as his own "an iron curtain has descended" moment?

Posted by: notthere on August 2, 2006 at 3:10 AM | PERMALINK

Nobody is suggesting that force is the only solution. The republicans only seem violent compared to the democrat party, which cries over dead terrorists. It's just that the military prong of our strategy gets the most media attention....

Posted by: American Hawk on August 2, 2006 at 3:12 AM | PERMALINK

The republicans only seem violent compared to the democrat party, which cries over dead terrorists.

Good point American Hawk. If the liberals had their way, America would be waiving the white flag of surrender and Sharia would be the law of the law in this country.

Posted by: Al on August 2, 2006 at 3:16 AM | PERMALINK

Speech text here.

Posted by: no10 on August 2, 2006 at 3:17 AM | PERMALINK

Bush quote, "Blair needs to stop this shit."

President Bush; "Syria Needs To Stop This Shit"

Posted by: Mario on August 2, 2006 at 3:18 AM | PERMALINK

Nobody is going to cry over the deaths of terrorists except their mothers.

The problem is that this administration can't distinguish between terrorists and innocent bystanders and treats all the same. Never mind the additional "collateral damage" of elderly, women and children.

Blair's speech is about him finally catching on to the negative effects of his and US policy.

You chicken hawks are so nervous you start shooting in all directions. Maybe not so much white flag as white feather.

Posted by: notthere on August 2, 2006 at 3:23 AM | PERMALINK

Here's the L.A. Times account:

British Prime Minister Tony Blair, speaking in Los Angeles on the final leg of a U.S. visit, called Tuesday for a broad reappraisal of the West's strategy for fighting extremism in the Middle East, saying that the battle would not be won by force alone.

Blair, whose speech came on a day of intensifying violence between Israeli troops and Hezbollah guerrillas in southern Lebanon, said he still held out hope for a quick end to nearly three weeks of conflict there. But he said when that occurs, Western nations must commit to building an "alliance of moderation" to counter the religious and political extremism he said was growing across the Middle East.

Posted by: bad Jim on August 2, 2006 at 3:37 AM | PERMALINK

Sharia would be the law of the law in this country.

Does anyone else notice that the "Al" program seems to do these hiccups at the beginning of the month sometimes?

Posted by: sweaty guy on August 2, 2006 at 3:37 AM | PERMALINK

And at the very end:

Finally, offering what he described as a bit of unsolicited, if friendly, advice, the prime minister urged the U.S. government to take the lead on such issues as global climate change, poverty in Africa and world trade talks.

"Without America," he said, "it doesn't happen."

Posted by: bad Jim on August 2, 2006 at 3:41 AM | PERMALINK

3 Steps to A Renaissance

Step 1: arrest Bush
Step 2: arrest Blair
Step 3: off to the Hague!

Posted by: The Fool on August 2, 2006 at 3:41 AM | PERMALINK

Billmon weighs in on the same speech:

Great. Lebanon is in flames, the Iraqis are playing Name That Death Squad, the neocons want to renact Hiroshima in Iran, the Turks are talking about settling scores with the Kurds, the Taliban are cultivating their Pashtun gardens, and Bush's butler is giving us existentialist psychobabble.

I think he may be even more deranged than his master. The other day Blair said something to the effect that he was absolutely confident -- way down in that "irreducible core" of his -- that his Middle East policies are correct. It was the sort of thing Shrub might say if he knew what the word "irreducible" means.

I remember thinking: Anyone who has even a smidgeon of knowledge about, or experience in, the Middle East, and who says he is absolutely, 100% certain he has the right answers, is either a liar, a fanatic, or Tom Friedman -- which is to say, a world-class educated fool.

Posted by: bad Jim on August 2, 2006 at 3:48 AM | PERMALINK

Well, Britain's nixing of an EU call for a peacefire yesterday (along with Germany and the Czech Republic) belies any notion that Tony has had a change of heart.

Posted by: nepeta on August 2, 2006 at 4:01 AM | PERMALINK

"If the liberals had their way, America would be waiving the white flag of surrender and Sharia would be the law of the law in this country."

You know, Al, this one spectacularly stupid statement sums up every cunt-faced thing you've said in this space over the last however long you've been doing it. Yes, all of your opponents can easily be lumped together for you to hate and fear from the safety of your mother's basement, you fat, worthless piece of shit! How convenient, now pass the remote control.

Why don't you go out, put on a uniform and fight all the horrible enemies of the United States -- all the feminazis and commies and gays and Muslims and libruls and whatever? Well, because you're a cowardly illiterate who can barely string two thoughts together, certainly not without pornographic glee at the suffering of others -- all of whom somehow deserve to die (snicker), except for unborn fetuses, of course.

Face it: you have nothing positive to contribute anywhere, and your intelligence is limited to what it takes to fry ants under a magnifying glass. So why don't you and American Chickenshit and all the other Bushlickers just go form a circle jerk somewhere else? Some grownups are trying to cope with the tragic problems your heroes have unleashed on our world.

Unlike you, we actually care about the legacies our children are left with.

Posted by: Kenji on August 2, 2006 at 4:11 AM | PERMALINK

...a world-class educated fool.

Posted by: bad Jim on August 2, 2006 at 3:48 AM | PERMALINK

Delusional would cover it. It's like "I have looked into his eyes..." They're both wrong. In their irreducible cores they must know they were very, very wrong, but they'll both be damned before they admit it. Although this speech somewhat begs the question.

The difference is that Blair is fighting to hang on to political power by his fingernails, and has come to the realization that he has to compromise his "bold leadership" in order to do so. Who knows why he wants to hang on, or what he thinks he can achieve in the next months. Nature of the beast, I suppose; he can't let go.

Posted by: notthere on August 2, 2006 at 4:18 AM | PERMALINK

"Blair's speech is about him finally catching on to the negative effects of his and US policy."

Unlikely. Someone as self satisfied and self righteous as blair isn't unlikely to change his views now.

No, As notthere says, this is just blair being brought into line by the labour party. He is now so weak politically that he is currently finding out what his government's foreign policy is only when the cabinet get around to telling him.

Blair, at this point, is little more than a stuffed dummy reading out whatever lines he's given by brown. A truly honourable man would have resigned by now but blair has no honour (or self respect apparently).

Posted by: kb on August 2, 2006 at 4:22 AM | PERMALINK

Since the number of Jews who have addressed the questions raised by this article is few, and the number of Jews who have considered it seriously, is zero, and the number of Jews who have ignored it is almost all, and it is so relevant to what is going on in Gaza and Lebanon, I feel it needs to be posted again:

WHY DOESN'T THE MEDIA PUBLISH THIS? I wonder indeed.

Israel Fakes a Provocation (the "kidnapping" of Cpl Gilad Shalit)

The following passages in italics are from:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/06/26/wmid26.xml&sSheet=/news/2006/06/26/ixnews.html

Last night two Israeli soldiers were killed and another kidnapped in a dawn attack by Palestinian militants who tunnelled under Gazas heavily protected border.

The attackers, believed to number seven or eight, surprised Israeli forces when they appeared at first light through a tunnel on open ground 300 yards inside Israel near a kibbutz.

Gaza is built on old semi-consolidated sand dunes. It is extremely unlikely that anyone could tunnel 500, or more, yards in the sandy ground of Gaza (300 yards into Israel plus 200 yards of no-mans land plus more to the tunnel entrance), without the tunnel collapsing at some point.

They split into three groups before launching simultaneous attacks on three Israeli defensive positions - a look-out tower, plus a tank and an armoured personnel carrier, both dug in, facing Gaza.

If you were only seven or eight, would you split into three groups? If you were only two, or three, would you attack a tank over flat ground, manned by four soldiers waiting inside to kill you?

They blew open the tanks rear doors with a missile fired from point-blank range before tossing grenades inside. Two of the tank crew died and another was severely wounded but the final crew member, the gunner, was forced out of the wreckage at gunpoint.

The rear doors are blown off and a few grenades popped inside. Tanks are not made to fall apart. Blowing off the rear doors would have taken a blast sufficient to seriously hurt those inside. The grenades would have then made mincemeat of them. One wonders if it is standard practice to wear a bulletproof vest inside a hot tank. One would think that the tank would be bulletproof enough not to require such a vest. Can Israeli tanks stop bullets, or not?

Later reports, from the New York Times and Guardian, tell use that Shalit suffered only minor injuries to his abdomen and one arm, even though everyone else in the tank was severely wounded or killed. Shalit would have been less than three feet away from those killed (there is no spare room in a tank).

Israeli trackers said they found his blood-stained bulletproof vest close to the Gaza perimeter fence.

The militants force Shalit to take off his bulletproof vest and leave it close to the Gaza concentration camp fence, in order to help the Israelis with their investigation.

By the way, whose blood is it on his bulletproof vest? Did his minor wounds bleed profusely, or was it the other soldiers blood and guts all over him. Pity their bulletproof vests didn't save them.

Meanwhile, two other militants attacked a nearby concrete watchtower.... The troop carrier was also damaged in another attack but it was unoccupied. The attackers then escaped back into Gaza by cutting their way through the perimeter fence.

Interestingly, the attackers escaped easily by cutting through the (electrified) perimeter fence, yet cutting through the perimeter fence in order to get in, was so hard to do, that they burrowed through half a mile of sandy ground instead. Something wrong with this story, perhaps?

After all this commotion, the soldiers in all the nearby Gaza concentration camp guard-towers, manage to miss a few Arabs running the 300 yards, over flat ground, back to the perimeter fence, miss them when they cut through it, and miss them running across no-mans land to safety. Anyway why, you may ask, did they not return through the tunnel they had painstakingly dug? Perhaps, they wanted to prove the total incompetence of the Israeli soldier.

If you believe this sad tale, I have a bridge to sell you.

The Hamas political leadership sought to distance itself from the incident last night when a spokesman said it had no knowledge of the fate of Cpl Shilat. Ghazi Hamad, a spokesman, said: "We are calling on the resistance groups, if they do have the missing soldier to protect his life and treat him well."

Yes, the Hamas political leadership had no idea of the fate of Cpl Shilat, as the story is a total fabrication.

The Jew press then claims that the Popular Resistance Committees, the armed wing of Hamas and the (previously unknown) Army of Islam were jointly responsible for the kidnapping of Shilat.

Why three groups you may ask?

The reason for three groups, is so that each of them might believe that the other has the "kidnapped" soldier, when, in fact, none of them have him. He is sipping coffee in Tel Aviv.

And why did a "previously unknown" group put up its hand?

Well, just in case one of the groups had doubts that the other group had the "kidnapped" soldier, they certainly couldn't be sure the "previously unknown" group didn't have him,... because after all, they don't have any idea who is leading, or anyone in, this unknown group.

So the reason for the weird "I did it arrangement," is so that the Jew press can claim that the Arabs claimed responsibility, when all they have done, is to NOT deny they did it.

Oh yeah, the "previously unknown" group is a Jew invention. It doesn't exist, except in the Jew newspapers.

Of course, shortly, the Army of Islam will need to be created (by the Jews) in order to negotiate the "release" of Shilat.

If you are not already convinced that the whole story is a fabrication, ask yourself; What were the four Israeli soldiers doing in the tiny confines of that dug-in tank? Ask your self; How long were they going to continue sitting in that tank? All day perhaps, or till they roasted in the desert sun? Or, till another group of four took over on the next shift? And of course, having four soldiers in just one tank, wont provide a defense, so there will have to be hundreds of tanks and hundreds of soldiers all sitting in these tanks,...

all waiting,... all waiting,... all waiting,.... for exactly what?

Waiting for Palestinian children to throw stones at them, perhaps? Perhaps, waiting attentively for militants to dig a half mile tunnel through sandy soil, pop up, and rush them over flat ground, but not attentively enough to see them approach? Perhaps, they were waiting for the Egyptian army to materialize, Star Trek like, from their bases hundreds of miles away on the other side of the Suez canal? I dont know,... you tell me why?

Yes, the story is a total fabrication. A fake provocation to start a war. Yes, the Jews are evil people.

Posted by: slim on August 2, 2006 at 4:54 AM | PERMALINK

"Blair, at this point, is little more than a stuffed dummy reading out whatever lines he's given by brown. A truly honourable man would have resigned by now but blair has no honour (or self respect apparently)."

That may be true, but he still would like to shore up his rep before flaming out. After all, he is plagued by a certain intelligence his Amerucan counterpart will never have to worry about.

By the way, Slim is a Jew.

Posted by: Kenji on August 2, 2006 at 5:25 AM | PERMALINK

4 Steps to A Renaissance

Step 1: arrest Bush
Step 2: arrest Blair
Step 3: off to Nuremberg!
Step 4: hang them by the neck till dead.

Posted by: slim on August 2, 2006 at 5:30 AM | PERMALINK

You mean Bush and Co. has a foreign policy??? What is it? If it isn't KILL, KILL, KILL, ETC., then I don't have any idea what it might be....

Posted by: Stephen Kriz on August 2, 2006 at 6:16 AM | PERMALINK

"he still would like to shore up his rep before flaming out. "

Too late for that , at least for the paying customers in the UK. The audiences abroad , who just see the highlights ,might buy it but not the punters at home.

Realistically the verdict is already on Blair - A failure.

A PM who in 97 had the political power & capital to do just about anything he wanted (take the UK into the euro for one) has ended up 9 years later having accomplished not very much at all and being widely mocked for being the most dishonest PM since Lloyd george, leading the most dishonest government in living memory.

Nothing Blair says now is worth taking seriously except as a expression of the Labour cabinets views. Personally he has almost no power left at all to do anything.

Posted by: kb on August 2, 2006 at 6:18 AM | PERMALINK

I guess he's a bit like Nixon in his wildreness years: amazed that he's still alive, wandering around aimlessly, and doing a desperate sales job on his reputation. He may only be trying to convince himself at this point, but he'll throw all his energy into that. What a waste the man's career has been, and he's not even old yet.

No drinks on the house for Tony Blair!

Posted by: Kenji on August 2, 2006 at 6:33 AM | PERMALINK

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