You don't pay your interns? That's one of the things that's wrong with America these days: The unpaid internship means that certain opportunities are only available to those with the means to spend a year or more working without pay.

Yeah, pay your damn interns!

More begging for money?!

Kevin, this seems like a desperate Air America-type move.

What's going on?

Kevin, you really weren't cut out for doing these promotional thingies. After three posts, you're sounding kind of ... mmm ... both shrill and ambivalent. You make this irrefutable argument -- but then illustrate your poverty with unpaid interns.

You know what *that* means. Yeah, we do. Make your writers and editors unpaid like your interns and think how much you'll save :)

Bob

Insight is the Jason Leopold of magazines.

Yo Kevin, many media type folks call themselves centrists...I see them as fence sitters.

Could you please explain to me what you see is, in your view, centrist media?

Insight is the Jason Leopold of magazines.
Posted by: clarence

Jason got duped because of the lack of validity of the SMTP protocols. He was sent bogus emails [as spammers do] from names he thought he knew.

I can easily send you an email from the IRS to your email address and you would freak out.

Jason leopold is a reporter and not a IT pro nor a network engineer, nor does he have knowled of the TCP/IP and the SMTP protcols that create the internet and the Html [hypertext markup language]
that makes this web page appear upon your screen. I could go further into the url encoding and what not, but it would be boring.

Jason got hosed by his lack of internet wisdom by political sebversives.

Baker is probably trying to enhance the Carlyle group's investments, since Dubya has totally bungled the war in Iraq. War-profiteering has made Baker an extremely wealthy man, not to mention his habitual cozying up to the House of Saud. This man is Satan in a three piece suit Although much smarter than Dubya, he is greed incarnate and leaves a trail of shit behind him that could fertilize the Sinai, to steal a phrase from Full Metal Jacket

Yeah, Steve Gilliard has a point about unpaid internships. They keep the publishing world, among many others, staffed by the well-off and white.

Neither a kid from the worse parts of Baltimore, New York or West Virginia can afford rent, food and professional clothes in a major media market without making a living wage and most tony internships require hours that don't lend themselves to the type of second job that pays the bills.

I see three choices. Either Kevin started on prozac, he's channeling his younger self writing advertising copy, or he's signing his name to stuff he didn't write. Mind you, I'm not complaining. It's entertaining stuff.

Kevin, do you think it is possible to start some sort of intern fund. Maybe not money or anything practical like that. Maybe just a PO box where we can send girl scout cookies and small used things we'd otherwise put on craig's list.

fk: More begging for money?!

he would know....gop is strictly pay as you go..

"I can easily send you an email from the IRS to your email address and you would freak out."

No, I'm smarter than that. And if Jason isn't, he needs to find another line of work. I wonder if the NYT article was using Insight as a source.

KEVIN DRUM: But this stuff doesn't come cheap! In addition to paying me, the Monthly also has to pay its writers, its editors, its printers, and the U.S. Postal Service. Everyone but our interns, in fact.

Kevin, I buy the Monthly in bookstores, on a regular basis. Does that count? I ask in all seriousness.

As a former magazine publisher, when you buy a magazine at a bookstore, the bookstore pays 60% of the cover price to the distributor who in turn pays 50% of the cover price to the publisher. After, of course, they deduct all expenses relating to shipping and storing the magazines which can be another 10-25% of the cover price. Unsold magazines will generate expenses but not income (the covers are torn off and returned to the distributor as proof that the magazine was unsold while the rest of the magazine is recycled). This is a big part of why subscriptions offer such large discounts off the cover price: Even at a 50% off the cover price, they can represent higher profits for the publisher than a newsstand copy (and guaranteed sales for a full year).

Waitasec..... you mean you actually get paid for this?
Whoa.

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w.c.....that's what i call baker cause he looks like w.c. fields to me.....is always ready to pick up a mop..

and clean up my messes...

w.c....you missed a spot...

well..time for a bike ride

Thanks Don. That was a great explanation of the economics of it. I would rather my money go to the magazine that maintains a blog I respect greatly and publishes material that's interesting and useful to me.

Gonna subscribe to the Monthly right way!

Off topic, but curiosity is doing me in. I see frequent post from "dfdsfsd".

I ran the on this thread through Babel Fish, and the translation looks like some kind of spam about office supplies.

Does anyone here read the language, or recoginize which language? I tried it as Japanese, Korean and Chinese, all just guesses on my part.

What's it say?

Several people today have highlighted recent reports that Bush family fixer James A. Baker III has been shuttling in and out of Baghdad for the past few weeks, apparently hoping to find some kind of face-saving Iraq exit strategy for the current occupant of the Oval Office. See here and here, for example.

James Baker the III is no peace negotiator, never has been, never will be. James Baker is buiness negotiator for top oil CEOs. Baker isn't in Iraq for peace but to keep those hard earned oil wells from getting into wrong hands.

ExxonMobil is so screwed but more than that this note just goes to show that reading the Washtonmonthly isn't really worth anything since Washington Monthly doesn't seem to understand what James Baker is really all about.