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September 14, 2006
By: Kevin Drum

COMPARE AND CONTRAST....Three weeks ago, conservative Republicans on the House intelligence committee released a report criticizing the U.S. intelligence commtittee for not being aggressive enough about gathering information on Iran's nuclear threat. "We think it's important for the American people to understand the kinds of pressures that we are facing and to increase the American public's understanding of Iran as a threat," explained Rep. Peter Hoekstra (R-Mich).

Today, the IAEA which, you may recall, turned out to be right about Iraq wrote Hoekstra a letter complaining that the report contained "erroneous, misleading and unsubstantiated statements."

I've reproduced the Washington Post's coverage of these two events below. Do you notice any differences? I've provided some subtle clues in case you're having trouble figuring it out.

Hat tip to Jonathan Schwarz, who has more.

Kevin Drum 11:54 AM Permalink | Trackbacks | Comments (61)

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The Media is the enemy of the people.

Posted by: beb on September 14, 2006 at 11:57 AM | PERMALINK

liberal media! liberal media!

carry on

Posted by: craigie on September 14, 2006 at 11:58 AM | PERMALINK

Wrong again, Kevin.

I don't know why you're wrong, you just are. Again.

Posted by: Al on September 14, 2006 at 11:58 AM | PERMALINK

Kevin:

I read the post online, so the page placement does not have that much of an effect on me. Does anyone have readership numbers comparing online versus hardcopy? It does seem a little spooky though.

Posted by: Out on Bond on September 14, 2006 at 11:59 AM | PERMALINK

Just the kind of stuff that got us into Iraq, Kevin. Nothing new here.

Posted by: David in NY on September 14, 2006 at 12:01 PM | PERMALINK

Today, the IAEA which, you may recall, turned out to be right about Iraq wrote Hoekstra a letter complaining that the report contained "erroneous, misleading and unsubstantiated statements."

Why am I not surprised Kevin would sooner believe a United Nations agency over the word of the American government? This is the same United Nations that allowed Saddam to kill one million of his own people and not put a stop to it. This is the same corrupt United Nations that was paid off by Saddam in the food for oil scandal. Kevin Drum and other liberals constantly take the word of the French and their "United Nations" allies over the words of America. If it were up to the United Nations, Iraq would be still under the control of Saddam and his fellow Islamofascist Baathist murderous thugs. I would sooner believe those who liberated Iraq like George W Bush rather than those who supported Saddam like the United Nations.

Posted by: Al on September 14, 2006 at 12:04 PM | PERMALINK

Al, you must be kidding.

Seriously, do you believe that anyone's propensity to lie is related to their nationality?

Bill Clinton: " I did not have sex with that woman."

George H.W. Bush "Read my lips. No new taxes."

Ronald Reagan: " There is no arms for hostages deal."

Further, considering the lack of WMD found in Iraq, it is likely that the IAEA was closer to the truth than the Administration.

I do not mind debating issues, but I would prefer a rational reasoned debate.

Posted by: Out on Bond on September 14, 2006 at 12:08 PM | PERMALINK

Damn liberal media. And damn tiresome Al.

Posted by: ckelly on September 14, 2006 at 12:09 PM | PERMALINK

Shorter Al:

"I'd much rather believe a lying Republican than a Democrat who tells the truth."

Bob

Posted by: rmck1 on September 14, 2006 at 12:10 PM | PERMALINK

In fact, Saddam is running the United Nations! That's the only explanation for why the UN let him murder a million of his own people. The fact that he's in jail right only goes to show how weak and ineffective the UN is. See how it all comes together in my mind?

Posted by: Al on September 14, 2006 at 12:10 PM | PERMALINK

Al, your first post made more sense than your second one.

Posted by: Reprobate on September 14, 2006 at 12:11 PM | PERMALINK

Hey, they don't call it the faith-based community for nothing.

Bob

Posted by: rmck1 on September 14, 2006 at 12:12 PM | PERMALINK

And Al, your third post was lame. Your parodies are getting annoying. Be gone with you!

Posted by: Reprobate on September 14, 2006 at 12:16 PM | PERMALINK

Because Republican fear-mongering is always front page news, Kevin, and the facts...well, facts are not front page worthy so they're always buried in amongst the ads.
Remember, news that goes for the irrational emotional response will always trump careful analysis.
Ask Rove, he knows.

Posted by: sheerahkahn on September 14, 2006 at 12:22 PM | PERMALINK

What's truly bothersome is the colossal ignorance of science. Like a crude cascade of hundreds of centrifuges would be even capable of producing 90% U235.

This is the same mythology that sustained the Niger yellowcake story that also flew in the face of science and common sense. Like Saddam needed new yellowcake to keep the seals on the 500 tons he already had and stuff Niger yellowcake directly into a bomb.

People read this shit without the slightest knowledge of highschool chemistry and just go "uh-huh."

Bob

Posted by: rmck1 on September 14, 2006 at 12:27 PM | PERMALINK

"By means of shrewd lies, unremittingly repeated, it is possible to make people believe that heaven is hell -- and hell heaven. The greater the lie, the more readily it will be believed."
Adolph Hitler, Mein Kampf

"You see what power is - holding someone else's fear in your hand and showing it to them!"
Amy Tan
US novelist (1952 - )

Al sucks hannity's ass

Posted by: cboas on September 14, 2006 at 12:28 PM | PERMALINK

You know what, this is eerily reminiscent of late 2002, and its the first step towards establishing the after-invasion meme (when very little progress on any nuclear program is actually found) that "everybody thought that Iran was closer than they really were." This is the bullshit they've been trotting out about Iraq for the last 2 years and its just flat out untrue. I for one had serious doubts about whther Iraq had anything of value from a WMD standpoint, particularly after weeks of pretty intrusive inspections by the UN found nothing in the month leading up to the war (despite our claims that we knew just where the WMD were and were directing the inspection teams to those very places). The only people that really still thought there were WMD's in Iraq by March of 2003 were those who were (a) not paying attention or (b) desperately wishing for an excuse to invade and kill brown people. This time we need to scream even louder about what the evidence actually says before we invade.

Posted by: Doug-E-Fresh on September 14, 2006 at 12:31 PM | PERMALINK

I believe this is pretty typical of the reporting on the U.S. in the ME since the run up to the Iraq invasion. Even the "liberal" Seattle PI has buried stories, often those that should have been above the fold on the front page, in the back of A section.

Posted by: JeffII on September 14, 2006 at 12:32 PM | PERMALINK

We should be grateful for small mercies, I guess. The headline could have been
"Despite Any Evidence, Everyone Should Panic"

Posted by: craigie on September 14, 2006 at 12:37 PM | PERMALINK

Common, Mr. Drum, it's probably just a failure if imagination on the part of the WaPo editors.

Posted by: Boronx on September 14, 2006 at 12:38 PM | PERMALINK

Ah, but those In The Know are well aware that you have to turn to A16-18 in order to read the stories (by Walter Pincus, Bart Gellman, Dafna Linzer and others) that actually refute the shit that goes on the front page. Only the plebs and the cable news stations care about what's on the front page!

Seriously, reading the WaPo is like reading Pravda. Or reading the Hebrew scripture as a kabbalist.

The fact that this kind of journalism may end up shoring up support for another bullshit war? Ah, what of it: Fred Hiatt's kids aren't in the military, I presume.

Posted by: ahem on September 14, 2006 at 12:42 PM | PERMALINK

"Once a government is committed to the principle of silencing the voice of opposition, it has only one way to go, and that is down the path of increasingly repressive measures, until it becomes a source of terror to all its citizens and creates a country where everyone lives in fear."
Harry S Truman, August 8, 1950
33rd president of US (1884 - 1972)

Al Sucks Rummy's Ass

"SALT LAKE CITY, Utah - Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld on Tuesday accused critics of the Bush administrations Iraq and counterterrorism policies of trying to appease a new type of fascism.

In unusually explicit terms, Rumsfeld portrayed the administrations critics as suffering from moral or intellectual confusion about what threatens the nations security and accused them of lacking the courage to fight back."
-Assc. Press Updated: 7:25 p.m. MT Aug 29, 2006

Posted by: cboas on September 14, 2006 at 12:42 PM | PERMALINK

Jeff II,

And you are saying that "CAT RESCUED FROM TREE IN SHORELINE" had no importance?

Posted by: thethirdPaul on September 14, 2006 at 12:45 PM | PERMALINK

"By means of shrewd lies, unremittingly repeated, it is possible to make people believe that heaven is hell -- and hell heaven. The greater the lie, the more readily it will be believed."

Lord, ain't it true...google on "truther"...

http://www.911blogger.com/

Posted by: Red State Mike on September 14, 2006 at 12:49 PM | PERMALINK

This is what I would expect from a moderately liberal newspaper.

A good Leftist newspaper would have said something like, "GOP led panel wants to spread LIES about Iran's nuclear program."

Posted by: Hostile on September 14, 2006 at 12:50 PM | PERMALINK

Speaking of stories we'd like to see on page A1:

Powell joins GOP opposition to Bush's terror bills

By Laurie Kellman

The Associated Press

WASHINGTON Former Secretary of State Colin Powell endorsed efforts to block President Bush's plan to authorize harsh interrogations of terror suspects, even as Bush lobbied personally for it today on Capitol Hill.

The world is beginning to doubt the moral basis of our fight against terrorism, said [Colin] Powell, who served under Bush and is a former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. To redefine Common Article 3 would add to those doubts. Furthermore, it would put our own troops at risk.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003258311_webterror14.html

Posted by: Windhorse on September 14, 2006 at 12:50 PM | PERMALINK

Revolution

Posted by: dee on September 14, 2006 at 12:51 PM | PERMALINK

Is the solution.

Posted by: Ras_Nesta on September 14, 2006 at 12:59 PM | PERMALINK

Well you can count me out.

Posted by: John Lennon on September 14, 2006 at 1:05 PM | PERMALINK

Watching primetime network TV, the average American gorges himself on rapes, mutilations, incest, murders, child abuse, closeups of corpses, serial butchery... not ad nauseam.

They want fact and calm reasoning in their news stories like cowpokes want salad.

Posted by: olds88 on September 14, 2006 at 1:06 PM | PERMALINK

And you are saying that "CAT RESCUED FROM TREE IN SHORELINE" had no importance?
Posted by: thethirdPaul on September 14, 2006 at 12:45 PM | PERMALINK

Reminds me of the headline in a Darwin (Australia) newspaper the day after the US invaded Iraq:

Naked Woman Attacks Picnic.

Posted by: e henry thripshaw on September 14, 2006 at 1:10 PM | PERMALINK

For what it's worth, the UN Inspectors story is now at the head of the online WP.
Does anyone know if Al is one of those people the WH pays to come up with froth, using our tax dollars?

Posted by: jim on September 14, 2006 at 1:13 PM | PERMALINK

Shorter Bob:

"Bo"

Bob

Posted by: rmck1 on September 14, 2006 at 1:13 PM | PERMALINK

Speaking of stories we'd like to see on page A1:

Powell joins GOP opposition to Bush's terror bills

By Laurie Kellman

The Associated Press

WASHINGTON Former Secretary of State Colin Powell endorsed efforts to block President Bush's plan to authorize harsh interrogations of terror suspects, even as Bush lobbied personally for it today on Capitol Hill.Posted by: Windhorse

Rather, what Powell should have done is resign prior to the UN dog and pony show. That would have put the brakes on things real quick, and we wouldn't be where we are today.

Powell will, deservedly, go down in history as a goat and, ultimately, a coward.

Posted by: JeffII on September 14, 2006 at 1:15 PM | PERMALINK

Yep, pretty much the same pattern as before the invasion of Iraq. The admin or other Reps or exile groups could make wild claims that would wind up on page 1, and the articles with independent sources debunking those claims would follow in a day or a week, buried in the back pages. The consistency of this pattern made me conclude that the Bush admin was continually lying, long before the actual invasion. I saw it only because of sites like CommonDreams and TruthOut.
Thanks, Kevin, et al., for pointing it out earlier this time.

Posted by: thump on September 14, 2006 at 1:15 PM | PERMALINK

LOL !

My doppelganger seems to be growing a semblance of a sense of humor :)

Bob

Posted by: rmck1 on September 14, 2006 at 1:15 PM | PERMALINK

The American Media in a nutshell:

Lies, p. A01

Truth, p. A14

Posted by: frankly0 on September 14, 2006 at 1:17 PM | PERMALINK

thump:

Shit, I saw it between the lines of the Judy Miller Curveball stories.

Of course, I was posting on the NYT Iraq forum at the time, so I did have access to a lot of alternative press links, truthfully ...

Bob

Posted by: rmck1 on September 14, 2006 at 1:18 PM | PERMALINK

"Revolution"
________

Well, at least then everyone's kids would be involved in the dying...

Posted by: Trashhauler on September 14, 2006 at 1:19 PM | PERMALINK

Windhorse,

Had only Powell possesed any moral qualms when he tried to quash the investigation of the My Lai massacre while he was in operations of the Americal Division.

Posted by: thethirdPaul on September 14, 2006 at 1:19 PM | PERMALINK

thethirdPaul >"And you are saying that "CAT RESCUED FROM TREE IN SHORELINE" had no importance?"

Well, it wasn`t his cat...

"On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog" - Peter Steiner

Posted by: daCascadian on September 14, 2006 at 1:21 PM | PERMALINK

By contrast, the BBC's version is currently the headline on their website. Not just the news portion of the site...the whole BBC company website! It has a PDF of the IAEA's letter and the original report. And it has Rush Holt trying hard to weasel-word his way out of his massive mistake:

There was no immediate comment from Washington over the letter.

But Rep Rush Holt, a Democratic member of the House intelligence committee, which released the report, said it had never been meant for release to the public.

"This report was not ready for prime time and it was not prepared in a way that we can rely on. It relied heavily on unclassified testimony," he told the BBC's PM programme. He still voted for its release and its moment in prime time though. What an asshat.

Regards, Cernig @ Newshog

Posted by: Cernig on September 14, 2006 at 1:23 PM | PERMALINK

Frankly, the real shocker is that anyone thought a House committee had anything worthwhile to say about anything, let alone anything worth reporting.

Posted by: william on September 14, 2006 at 1:24 PM | PERMALINK

dee >"Revolution"

Are you suggesting the door is rotten enough ?

"All successful revolutions are the kicking in of a rotten door." - John Kenneth Galbraith

Posted by: daCascadian on September 14, 2006 at 1:25 PM | PERMALINK

Jeff II,
And you are saying that "CAT RESCUED FROM TREE IN SHORELINE" had no importance? Posted by: thethirdPaul

Where have you been hiding all these months?

I, apparently, don't live in as nice a community as Shoreline.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/285083_brier14.html

Posted by: JeffII on September 14, 2006 at 1:25 PM | PERMALINK

Hoekstra is one of the key parts of the Republican election-season fear machine.

You got to hand it to the Congressman -- he doesn't quit, even without a credible leg to stand on.

Reminds me of that scene in Monty Python and the Holy Grail when Arthur cuts the last arm off the Black Knight and he still wants to fight:

King Arthur: [after Arthur's cut off both of the Black Knight's arms] Look, you stupid Bastard. You've got no arms left.
Black Knight: Yes I have.
King Arthur: *Look*!
Black Knight: It's just a flesh wound.

Remember the song?

"We're knights of the Round Table, we dance whene'er we're able. We do routines and chorus scenes with footwork impec-cable, We dine well here in Camelot, we eat ham and jam and Spam a lot. / We're knights of the Round Table, our shows are for-mi-dable. But many times we're given rhymes that are quite un-sing-able, We're opera mad in Camelot, we sing from the diaphragm a lot. / In war we're tough and able, Quite in-de-fa-ti-gable. Between our quests we sequin vests and impersonate Clark Gable / It's a busy life in Camelot"

Posted by: pj in jesusland on September 14, 2006 at 1:45 PM | PERMALINK

The Associated Press

WASHINGTON Former Secretary of State Colin Powell endorsed efforts to block President Bush's plan to authorize harsh interrogations of terror suspects, even as Bush lobbied personally for it today on Capitol Hill.

The world is beginning to doubt the moral basis of our fight against terrorism, said [Colin] Powell, who served under Bush and is a former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. To redefine Common Article 3 would add to those doubts. Furthermore, it would put our own troops at risk.
_________________

The article isn't very explicit about the terror bills. There is more at stake than redefining our interpretation of Common Article 3. It is apparent from the new military field manual on interrogation that the Administration is already willing to live with getting less useful intelligence through military interrogation. The upside is that our military will have no conflict with the Geneval Conventions.

Theoretically, this hard line on restricting military interrogation techniques could serve to protect our troops. In practice, it will make little difference, since none of our adversaries have even pretended to follow the Geneva Conventions since WWII. By hard experience we've learned that surviving capture is not assured, forget being treated properly.

However, it would be useful to know how to charge combatants who do not follow the GC rules for militias. As far as I know, there is no US statute that defines the punishment for such violations. Further, by the most strict interpretation of Common Article 3, it might be illegal in many circumstances for our military to turn any of their detainees over to the FBI or CIA for questioning, since it can be assumed that those agencies will use techniques forbidden to the military. If so, then anyone captured by our military is safe from any harsh questioning by any other agency, even using techniques available to the police.

There is also the issue of giving the CIA guidelines to follow when interrogating detainees who are not captured in battle by our military. If, as some here would have it, the war on terror reverts to a primarily policing and intelligence operations, then the CIA will need that guidance, since the Geneva Conventions do not apply in non-military situations. Since the very presence of the CIA is illegal in most countries, so is nearly every CIA procedure.

One would think Administration critics would welcome the chance for Congress to set some things straight on these issues.

Posted by: Trashhauler on September 14, 2006 at 2:42 PM | PERMALINK

One would think Administration critics would welcome the chance for Congress to set some things straight on these issues. Posted by: Trashhauler

And which congress would that be, the current craven, win at any cost Rethug controlled congress or the one elected in 1974?

Posted by: JeffII on September 14, 2006 at 2:58 PM | PERMALINK

What seems so remarkable about this is that after WaPo and NYT both acted essentially as stenographers for the admin's lies in the run-up to the Iraq invasion, both eventually published some sort of post hoc mea culpa (kinda sorta) for their credulous coverage and the damage it wrought. One or both (and I think WaPo with specific reference to some reporting by Pincus?) specifically noted self-critically that they had prominently published inflammatory admin claims on A1, while relegating subsequent reporting that called into question or refuted those claims to deep in the back pages.

"Dj vu all over again" (thanks, Yogi).

Posted by: gary1 on September 14, 2006 at 3:07 PM | PERMALINK

So neocon Al prefers the American Federal Empire over the UN ay? Well, I tell ya what Al, when the veil finally falls and the storm troopers come to collect your guns, will you give them up willingly? And I don't think it'll be the UN troopers coming to collect. Savvy?

Posted by: for the common good on September 14, 2006 at 3:29 PM | PERMALINK

Yes, it was buried as pointed out by several.

Not quite the same, but the passing of the great Ann Richards was either relegated to inside pages, the Oregonian on Page 5, or not even noted on "liberal" blogs.

She was a remarkable person. Great intelligence and wit and gone far, far too soon.

Posted by: thethirdPaul on September 14, 2006 at 3:33 PM | PERMALINK

TRASH: One would think Administration critics would welcome the chance for Congress to set some things straight on these issues.


straight?

bush only wants to use congress for cover..

and when they have been used...

bush will issue a signing statement after the fact..

and do what he wants away..

we've been there and

done that...

Posted by: mr. irony on September 14, 2006 at 4:12 PM | PERMALINK

JefII and mr. irony,

So, your opinion is that you would only like Congress to address these issues if Democrats were in charge? I can understand the impulse, but Congress and the President have the legitimate responsibility to address these issues now and however many times necessary in the future.

The issues and questions I raised remain. While there might not be many here who wish to hazard a guess at the answers, Congress and the President must.

Posted by: Trashhauler on September 14, 2006 at 4:34 PM | PERMALINK

Hey, all you media crtics need to understand where Americans' priorities are. Why, from just one week of watching our country's mainstream media, I learned that:

* Katie Couric began her job as anchor of the CBS Evening News, and one of her first hard-hitting interviews was with free speech advocate Rush Limbaugh;

* Meredith Vierra began her job as co-host of NBC's The Today Show, and she's really, really happy to be there -- really!;

* NBC political pundit Tucker Carlson is starring in NBC's new reality show, Dancing with the Stars;

* According to House Speaker Dennis Hastert, Democrats want al Qa'eda to win the War on Terror;

* Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich thinks that it would be terrible if Nancy Pelosi were to succeed Mr. Hastert as House Speaker next year;

* NBC political pundit Tucker Carlson really, really likes starring in NBC's new reality show, Dancing with the Stars -- really!;

* CNN's Larry King and Wolf Blitzer thought that former Texas Gov. Ann Richards, who died this week at 73, was really a feisty old broad and a great guest who always provided a great soundbite;

* Meredith Vierra really, really likes Matt Lauer, her co-host on NBC's The Today Show -- really!;

* O.J. Simpson refused to pay the multi-million dollar judgment owed to the family of Ron Goldman, because he's still looking for the real killers of Mr. Goldman and Simpson's ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson -- really!;

* John Michael Karr, who falsely confessed to killing 6-year-old JonBenet Ramsey in 1996, was extradited to San Francisco to face child pornography charges;

* According to President George W. Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, and White House Press Secretary Tony Snow, Iraq is really the central point in the War on Terror, and Saddam Hussein was really a threat to national security -- really!;

* Britney Spears had another baby, but her marriage to Mr. Britney Spears may be in trouble;

* NBC political pundit Tucker Carlson really, really likes starring in NBC's new reality show, Dancing with the Stars -- really!;

* Tom Cruise was the personal guest of the Washington Redskins'owner at the team's home opener; and

* Aging pop diva Whitney Houston finally filed for divorce again from her on-again, off-again husbband of 14 years, Bobby "One Hit Wonder" Brown. No, she really did, and this time's for real -- really!

Posted by: Donald from Hawaii on September 14, 2006 at 4:50 PM | PERMALINK

Donald, I can't believe that you left out the important news that John Travolta was caught kissing a man! Come on, you call that other shit news!

Posted by: craigie on September 14, 2006 at 6:28 PM | PERMALINK

The purpose of the corporate-owned mass media is to keep the American public in a hypnotically-induced, ignorant stupor, in which they think only about being good obedient workers and spending all the money they can earn or borrow on buying stuff that they don't need or even really want, to keep the "consumer economy" going, and keep making the corporate ruling class richer and richer.

Posted by: SecularAnimist on September 14, 2006 at 6:49 PM | PERMALINK

Al: Why am I not surprised Kevin would sooner believe a United Nations agency over the word of the American government? This is the same United Nations that allowed Saddam to kill one million of his own people and not put a stop to it. This is the same corrupt United Nations that was paid off by Saddam in the food for oil scandal. Kevin Drum and other liberals constantly take the word of the French and their "United Nations" allies over the words of America. If it were up to the United Nations, Iraq would be still under the control of Saddam and his fellow Islamofascist Baathist murderous thugs. I would sooner believe those who liberated Iraq like George W Bush rather than those who supported Saddam like the United Nations.

Heh. So now Saddam killed a million of his own people? This fish story keeps growing and growing. First the wingers claimed Saddam killed "tens of thousands", then it was "hundreds of thousands", but now it's millions?

Does this death inflation have anything to do with the fact that tens of thousands of Iraqis have died violently under our benevolent rule?

Since the vast majority of Saddam's killings occurred in the 1980s, why didn't we feel the urge to bring him to justice before 2003?

Bush's adventure in Iraq is a sad lesson that removing a brutal dictator does not necessarily make matters better, and, in fact, can make matters worse than they were before. Unfortunately, this lesson will be ignored by those most in need of learning it.

Posted by: Broken on September 14, 2006 at 7:18 PM | PERMALINK

Donald, I can't believe that you left out the important news that John Travolta was caught kissing a man! Come on, you call that other shit news!
Posted by: craigie

E-mail me craigie if you want an even better Travolta story, one Donald, a resident of Hawaii, may already be familiar with.

Posted by: JeffII on September 14, 2006 at 8:45 PM | PERMALINK

Well, BushBoy and the NeoCons seem to be caught in thier own terrible version of Groundhog Day, which, unfortunately, involves us and other nations as well--and the WaPo seems to be there, too.

Just as in the run-up to the Iraq invasion, they put the news unfavorable to the BushCo narrative in the back.

Too bad. They've learned nothing, except to kowtow more effectively.

Posted by: jawbone on September 15, 2006 at 1:16 AM | PERMALINK

Third Paul:
The late, lamented Ann Richards. She gave a dynamite eulogy at Barbara Jordan's funeral. Ann was a class act. Now, she's got Jesus weeping with laughter!

Posted by: Alan Coltharp on September 16, 2006 at 1:00 AM | PERMALINK

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Posted by: dd on September 17, 2006 at 8:24 AM | PERMALINK




 

 

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