Republicans can't manage a program comprising--
what?--50 to 75 pages right there in their building? So can they manage anything... like the Iraq war?

More popcorn, please.

shorter GOP: please, keep those sweet sweet boys away from us!

Ending the page program might not be a bad idea. After Studds and Crane there was a serious effort to reform the program. Those reforms are meaningless unless the Leadership of the House is willing to protect the Pages from people like Rep Foley. If they aren't, then the Page program probably should be ended. There will be other Foleys in the future. In Washington some people equate sex with power and if they have power they will abuse the power for sex.

Hmmm. A friend emailed this morning to say that he's heard "there are two more Republican members about to get swept up in this thing."

I'm hearing something different. I heard two Democrats are going to be outed as gay pedophiles and swept up in this thing. I won't tell you their names right now, but the initials of one of them is BF. Remember when this happens, I was the first one to report it.

I don't know what LaHood is hearing, but you're hearing him right: he's getting plural on us.

So LaHood thinks maybe the pages should stop flirting and go home. The administration has offered an alternative solution, if we could just stop playing jailbait grabass long enough to pay attention: Rather than abolish the page program, abolish Congress. It's not like they're serving any useful purpose.

What the hell do they have to 'reform' anything for. The problem is obvious: Republican Congresscritters can't keep their hands off young male boys. Solution: Get rid of Republican Congresscritters.

I guarantee you this solution has occurred to the average American citizen...

LOL, Al.
Posted by: Thomas1

This is an adult discussion, Charlie. Only 12-year old girls use "LOL."

If they cancel the page program over this, aren't they admitting that you just can't leave a Congressman in a room with a minor? Or have they already admitted that?

May I have extra butter on my popcorn?

Al wrote:

"I'm hearing something different."

Of course you are: If I were the GOP, I'd be handling this like the Enron scandal: try to muddy the waters by pointing fingers at Democrats. I'm sure that any Democrat congressperson who has exchanged more than two words with a page is a target.

I'm also sure that the RNC is right now running round ex-pages with an open checkbook and an offer of AEI or Heritage gig if they'd accuse a Democrat of impropriety.

Al: I won't tell you their names right now, but the initials of one of them is BF.

You forgot his middle initial, which happens to be F. So if Bush and his BFF, Lieberman, get outed, I doubt Democrats will be much disappointed.

My schadenfreude runneth over.

Al:I'm hearing something different/

Those voices never stop, do they?

shorter GOP: please, keep those sweet sweet boys away from us!

Democrats: Soft on Terror

Republicans: Hard on

Hastert now takes the blame, but won't step down.

Sounds like he's treating it more like 'taking one for the team'. He'll be big about it, and accept blanket responsibility for "whatever it is that occured" on his watch.

Whatta hero (!?!). Shouldn't he instead be aologizing for his role in a cover-up?

Al: I won't tell you their names right now, but the initials of one of them is BF.

Oh. My. God. Bill Frist has been abusing pages?!?!

I thought he stuck to mis-diagnosing by videotape?

("aologizing" - ??? Piece of crap spell-checker)

GOP alludes to something I haven't seen discussed: The kids who have been the victims here are the sons of high-powered, big-money Republican donors. The tentacles of this scandal could really reach out all across the country and affect the Republican party apparatus in every single state.

Our form of government is broken. I think it's time we established a new constitutional convention.

Oh. My. God. Bill Frist has been abusing pages?!?!

I thought he stuck to mis-diagnosing by videotape?

Recently, he's mostly been characterizing the war in Afghanistan as unwinnable and advocating surrender to the Taliban...

Als probably right, the only way for the GOP to kill this scandle is to be able to say the dems did it too. Worked with Abramoff. I'm sure Rove operatives are working on this 24/7.

"Find me a page who will say a dem hit on him, damnit how much do I pay you f-heads. Find me that page. And make sure he's a minor."

As long as the dems do it too, its apparently ok. I can't stand the moral relativism of the GOP.

Again, how is it that GOP Leadership can't be trusted with our kids but they can somehow be trusted with "the big stuff"? I suggest that we discuss this over highballs...oops, wait!

Hey, Ray the Hood is a stand up guy - He has certainly protected the restaurant business - Must have been in his blood with his family opening a restaurant after coming to this country.

How did he protect the business? Why he voted against the Horse Slaughter bill.

But, if it plays in Peoria...............

SKINNY RIGHT-WING WHITE WOMEN SPEAK OUT ABOUT THE FOLEY AFFAIR ON FOX NEWS:

"What about CLINTON!!! It's his fault for creating this climate of 'anything goes' in the oval orifice of Monica Lewinsky. Not only that, I think Hillary is a lesbian."

"The LIBERALS and their 'friends' at the ACLU will do anything to lower our moral standards and promote the GAY AGENDA. And Foley is just a part of that."

"Why didn't the Democrats 'come foward sooner' to protect these innocent children from Republican law makers! Could stopping wing-nuts now from having sex with congressional pages have anything to do with the midterm elections! I'd like to see THAT question answered."

"This has nothing do with Republican or Democrat. And, anyway, why doesn't Barney Frank resign?"

"Stay the course. Don't cut and run. Extend the tax cuts. Oh hell, we're screwed."

an open checkbook and an offer of AEI or Heritage gig if they'd accuse a Democrat of impropriety.

at this point, they'll need more than just an accusation. They'll need at least some "evidence".

Ney
Doolittle
Cunningham
Foley
Delay

Who is next from the Leadership to fall? Any speculation? I mean, Doolittle hasn't been indicted yet unless he's an unindicted co-conspirator. But who is next that is not on the list above? Is it Reynolds? LaHood? Beohner? Hastert? Enquiring minds want to...un...let's use a different term!

Just occurred to me: the fallout from all this will almost certainly be the Republicans are re-invigorated.

It's going to remind them who they are and why they vote Republican in the first place.

Iraq and everything else had them worried, but this is a wake-up call.

(and someone objected when I said they weren't even remotely human!)

70-90 teenage boys? How strange that Republicans in COngress want us to trust them to run the Counrty when they can't even handle a gym class.

Oh brother, but we all know that Louis Freeh, the "9/11 was Clinton's fault" partisan FBI leader will keep this so-called investigation under complete wraps.

It's really quite the joke isn't it?

Okay, I've had enough of this. We don't shutdown schools because there are predatory folks who pray on young people there. No. We try to get to the gist of what is going on and correct it. If they can't manage a small program like that then, well, yeah, WTF are they doing conjuring up laws for the United States of America?!

How fitting. Louis Freeh, the Congressional GOP's hatchet man on Bill Clinton is now in charge of a partisan cover-up.

From "Freeh at Last: Revenge and Revisionism at the FBI"

"Eager to improve his image tarnished by the Ruby Ridge cover-up and the Richard Jewell Atlanta bombing fiasco, Freeh became a reliable servant and source of leaks for Republican committeemen in Congress. In the FileGate case, Freeh became an outright water carrier for the GOP. While the Clinton administration claimed this was merely a bureaucratic snafu (a conclusion backed four years later by a three judge panel), Freeh played the martyr, claiming, "the FBI and I were victimized." In 1997, Freeh's FBI leaked information to the Washington Post about Chinese contributions to Democratic campaigns and even went so far as to brief Congressional Republicans."

"Yes, of course, Barney Frank. Because he's gay, he must be a pedophile, right Al?"

Amazing - Barney Frank has a 31 year old lover who is trash - and whose actions affects the reputation of the House only in a sideways way - Frank goes to the well of the House and says sorry and notes he had ended the relationship 6 months earlier - and gets re-elected with 70% of the vote or more every election thereafter -

and this is all the GOP can throw out to defend their child predator sex scandal coverup by a dozen GOP leadership types?

I thought they would at least go back to the 1973 Gary Studs of Cape Cod Mass going on vacation to Europe - where you stop being a minor at 16 - and hooking up with a 17 year old. When the GOP needed a Dem to offset their own 1983 sex scandal at the time they reached back to 73 and used Studs fling (albeit the young man was a page - although no sex occurred in any location where he was considered a minor). This at least has "gay" and "page" and Dem as part of the story. Of course Gary Studs was also re-elected many times after the GOP hanging in 83

Seems the GOP are really getting desparate as they see that GOP as party of values selling point go down the drain, with the Dems emerging as the party of values.

THE GAY OLD PARTY....

Parrot,

I would agree, but in nearly every case involving a school there are decent teachers, a school prinicpal, superintenedent and school board all protecting the kids from predatory teachers. In this case the "powers that be" decided they would just look the other way. The problem isn't Foley, it is the house leadership who put their love of power above their duty to the young people in their charge.

Once again, Republicans' solution to a government program that doesn't put money directly into their pockets is to destroy it.

Shrub has given a vote of confidence to Hastert.

Of course, he also gave one to Brownie and a few others.

Reminds me of a story in the sports section a few years ago. A struggling college football coach had been given a vote of confidence by the Board of Regents. The vote was 3-2.

Talibangelists are reaping their just rewards.

abolish the page program?

great idea!

otherwise this sort of thing won't ever stop.

it's for the exact same reason i think we should abolish the catholic church.

Now CNN is saying the Freeh will NOT head the investigation? BUT not a word from Hastert about who will lead this said investigation, hell did Hastert decide not HAVE an investigation after all?

Are the soccer mom's happy, I don't think so.

Which side has more gays in the house and senate,The answer will just twist the minds of Neo's.

("aologizing" - ??? Piece of crap spell-checker)
Posted by: wishIwuz2 on October 5, 2006 at 2:10 PM | PERMALINK

AOLogizing (n) - Saying you are sorry for all the perverted things you IM-ed to a minor.

This is a point that I think needs to be made, and the average Poly Animal troll needs to wake up and see the light.

Here's the deal--Rep. Mark Foley was a butt pirate.

I can't think of a better term to describe what he was. He used his power and his prestige to cover up the fact that he was on a rampage. He went around trying to be the best butt pirate in the entire House of Representatives. He boarded ships, stole the gold and went after every sweet little underage butt that he could. He wandered around drunk, trying to find someone to open up their safe harbor for him to dock his butt pirate ship. He was and probably always will be nothing more than a degenerate butt pirate.

And he's a Republican. And election day is just around the corner. The shrill cry you hear from the Trolletariat is the realization that every single voter in America will know Mark Foley is a butt pirate when they step into the voting booth.

Al >"I'm hearing something different..."

Yea, yea, so do as it says and go clean your guns

"You see what power is - holding someone else's fear in your hand and showing it to them!" - Amy Tan

This is total bullshit:

**World Exclusive**
**Must Credit the DRUDGE REPORT**

According to two people close to former congressional page {redacted}, the now famous lurid AOL Instant Message exchanges that led to the resignation of Mark Foley were part of an online prank that by mistake got into the hands of enemy political operatives, the DRUDGE REPORT can reveal... Developing...

Riiiiiiiight, Drudge.

And the fact that this guy was chasing pages in 1995 for ice cream dates? Was that part of the prank, too?

I see his point. Having a bunch of nubile young teenagers wandering about the halls of Congress is like dangling candy in front of a baby. They can't help themselves. If only Bill Clinton had taken personal responsibility, then they might have been able to resist all those firm, pubescent, slack covered buttocks.

Can we abolish K Street, now? With all that temptation, they can't help themselves.

Let me guess -
He was chatting with Colbert?

Let's see the log where he says he enjoys snorting coke. . .

I think it's pretty safe to say LaHood is not referring to Democrats. Because if there are Democrats who could be implicated, you'd be damn sure the Republicans already would have implicated them. Why would they wait? To accumulate evidence? It's not like they've ever worried about the facts before.

(Hastert's having a "Vast left-wing conspiracy" moment. . . )

...the initials of one of them is BF...

Republicans forfeited all rights to criticize Barney Frank this year when they failed to run a candidate against him. If a guy is the worst of the craaazy liberal Democrats, should he be left to run unopposed???

Pale Rider's post on Republican butt-piratry is best whan closed with a "avast!" "argghh, matey!" or two.

More popcorn, indeed.

Our form of government is broken. I think it's time we established a new constitutional convention.

I used to think that. Now I think that some 1/2 of the population is crazy. We would be fine if such a large proportion of the population of the US weren't Republican. Just sayin'.

"I can't think of a better term to describe what he was. He used his power and his prestige to cover up the fact that he was on a rampage. He went around trying to be the best butt pirate in the entire House of Representatives. He boarded ships, stole the gold and went after every sweet little underage butt that he could. He wandered around drunk, trying to find someone to open up their safe harbor for him to dock his butt pirate ship. He was and probably always will be nothing more than a degenerate butt pirate." - frail rider

Using this descriptive analogy, I guess we could call Clinton the "pussy pirate". In fact that is how I will refer ti him from now on. Thanks frail.

".....is the realization that every single voter in America will know Mark Foley is a butt pirate when they step into the voting booth." - frail rider

And the only other problem is that the Democrats still HAVE NO PLAN FOR ANYTHING.

Is the Dems platform: "at least were not pedophiles" Oops, I guess Mel Reynolds dispelled that platform. So....still no plan.

"Here's the deal--Rep. Mark Foley was a butt pirate." - frail rider

Why are liberals so hateful of homosexuals?

I really expected more of them.

Hi, Jay!

Here's a plan: throw out the incompetents who have given us nothing but failed policies, corrupt, incompetent leaders, and brain-dead ideas. You can't clean the shit out of the bed until you remove the child who keep shitting in it.

Jay, its hard to believe you missed this, but Bill Clinton was, and is, a friggen chick magnet. "Pussy Pirate" does not even begin to do his ability to get women hot justice.

Perhaps he's a good father and husband as well, for all we really know.

Would it have been better for the country if he would have been able to keep it zipped up? Sure, we might not have had to put up with Bush for six years, but I'd hardly expect you to care about that.

"Here's a plan: throw out the incompetents who have given us nothing but failed policies, corrupt, incompetent leaders, and brain-dead ideas. You can't clean the shit out of the bed until you remove the child who keep shitting in it." - Anatole

And you're a Doctor??????

The only pronlem i see is it is not the dems calling for resignations,The Neocon's are having a meltdown a very very angry meltdown these guys have lost it they are acting like crazed animals.

GOP, the party of cheap labor, is not the moral party. Hastert will NOT resign before the midterm election. The DOW is up because gas prices are low because the OIL companies want the GOP to stay in power. Conspiracy Theory? Only until it is proven... then it is just a Conspiracy. ENRON? Conspiracy Foley coverup? Conspiracy .... if the average working joe in america cannot see that the party of $GOP$ OIL and POWER and CHEAP LABOR is working AGAINST the best interests of the 98% of us who work for a living... then BABOOM... you get what you pay for

"Jay, its hard to believe you missed this, but Bill Clinton was, and is, a friggen chick magnet." - spank

Hillary is a chick? Well at least we know now what the "pussy pirate" was, and is. I guess that rates high in the homophobe liberal world.

Oooh, what to do? Can't vote Demo, why those A-Rabs will coming up the drive and doing what all,

But, I thought the Repubs had family values like our Lord and Master George..............ooh.

I know, I'll just ask Mrs O'Hara, that's it Scarlett, I'll just ask Mrs O'Hara, she'll know what to do.

Pale Rider - I believe Foley and other Republican butt pirates are plundering booty. That is why they great each other with 'ahoy mate.'

I think Josh Marshall has the right of this:

We just watched Denny Hastert make his latest statement that he thinks will end the bonfire but won't.

I don't know for sure what the marching orders are for the press members but I would think the board meetings says to find evidence of the fact that Denny Hastert did KNOW about Foley's follies before this week.

Doesn't matter who tells the press, gives the press evidence of Hastert's denial> Hastert is no Patrick Fitzgerald, and there has got to be a stained blue dress out there somewhere, we just have that evidence.

Someone somewhere said something about John Sweeney (R-NY) and Walter Jones (R-NC).

CLAIM: FILTHY FOLEY ONLINE MESSAGES WERE PAGE PRANK GONE AWRY
**World Exclusive**
**Must Credit the DRUDGE REPORT**

According to two people close to former congressional page Jordan Edmund, the now famous lurid AOL Instant Message exchanges that led to the resignation of Mark Foley were part of an online prank that by mistake got into the hands of enemy political operatives, the DRUDGE REPORT can reveal.

According to one Oklahoma source who knows the former page very well, Edmund, a conservative Republican, goaded an unwitting Foley to type embarrassing comments that were then shared with a small group of young Hill politicos. The prank went awry when the saved IM sessions got into the hands of political operatives favorable to Democrats.

The primary source, an ally of Edmund, adamantly proclaims that the former page is not a homosexual. The prank scenario was confirmed by a second associate of Edmund. Both are fearful that their political careers will be affected if they are publicly brought into the matter.

The news come on the heels that Edmund has hired former Timothy McVeigh attorney, Stephen Jones.

Developing...

Ain't this fun?

Republican members of Congress think power self-referentially justifies itself? I'm shocked! Shocked!

Here's the deal--Rep. Mark Foley was a butt pirate."

Why are liberals so hateful of homosexuals?

Jay said while wondering why his ass hurt every time someone mentioned the name "Bill Clinton."

Clinton is and always has been a player; you're a player hater.

Foley wasn't even in the game.

"Here's the deal--Rep. Mark Foley was a butt pirate." - frail rider
Why are liberals so hateful of homosexuals?
I really expected more of them.
Posted by: Jay

Conservative reasoning; "Everything posted on a liberal blog is posted by a liberal."

Studds!

When are we going to understand that in this ownship society, the ownership of this belongs to the godless liberal media death-culture.
OBVIOUSLY, if is wasn't for them, Foley wouldn't be attracted to little boys, and Hastert wouldn't have to cover it up for a year.
Why don't we just admit it is really Jon Stewart, Bill Moyers, and Al Franken's fault.
It's also their fault Delay and Abramoff needed to rip off indian casinos and taxpayers.
geesh. it's soooo simple

G = Greedy
O = Old
P = Perverts

An acronym for the ages.

If that's really true, that the IM's were a prank gone amuck, that illustrates that young Republicans in training are just as crass as old Republicans.

And have about the same levels of maturity and pomposity.

You know, it's not going to touch them at all. Hastert will never resign unless he's indicted for something.

Here in Illinois, we're seriously bummed that we may lose at least three members of our Republican Congressional delegation over this. Except, you know, for the "bummed" part.

It hurts my widdle feelings when you make fun of us pedophiles.

"The clearest illustration may be in the divergent outcomes of the cases against Crane (R) and Studds (D) in 1983. Both men were censured by the House for having sex with underage congressional pages -- Crane with a 17-year-old girl in 1980, Studds with a 17-year-old boy in 1973. Crane, of Illinois, apologized for his actions, while Studds, who declared he was gay, refused. Crane lost his reelection bid the next year; Studds, of Massachusetts, kept winning his seat until he retired in 1996."

http://newsbusters.org/node/8054

Why wasn't there any call for who at the top knew about Studds, or most recently Reynolds?

Do you think O'Neil knew about Studds and kept it quiet?

And since the left condones pedophilia, as exampled by Studds and Reynolds; and embraces homosexuality; why such outrage?

Jay, STFU

"....every time someone mentioned the name "Bill Clinton." - frail rider

That's Pussy Pirate to you.

"Clinton is and always has been a player; you're a player hater." - frail rider

I know, that's why Hillary is so mad. Too bad he wasn't a President.

ONE LAST TIME! GAY IS NOT PEDOPHILIA!!

If you want to make cute acronyms, then leave the "gay" out of it. How about:

Gross Old Pedophiles
Gross Old Perverts
Greasy Oggling Pedophiles...

This has nothing to do with homosexuality.

Hastert is no Patrick Fitzgerald

Hell, Hastert's not even a Patrick Duffy. But I do believe he had a bit rule as a walrus in one episode.

Orwell is as unbelievably stupid as ever. Never mind all the pages who've come forward and said that Foley made advances toward them when they were kids, Dredge's "story" is the defense of every online predator ever. What -- "the kids made me do it"??? "I was just joking"???

Puh-leeze.

That's right up there with, "I swear officer, she told me she was eighteen!"

The new Washington Monthly server needs to automatically filter out mouth breathers So Orwell and Jay can spend more time working on improving their basic cognitive skills.

What is it that the repubs can keep us safe from.Run down the list and it would appear that they really can;t keep you safe from anything.

Jay is 12 years old.

"Jay, STFU" - cleek

Oh so this is the plan for Democrats, silence the opposition. Well when you have no plan, eliminating opposition is the only recourse. Hitler did the same thing.

Our politicians screwing us?

"Hastert is no Patrick Fitzgerald"

How is Fitzmas coming along?

I sure do miss Americas most covert Spy and her Greatful Dead-wannabe husband of hers in the news.

What cocktail circuit do you think they're on this week?

And since the left condones pedophilia, as exampled by Studds and Reynolds

That's rich coming from a sad nut who's on record on this very blog defending sex with 12 year-old girls as recently as yesterday!!!

If a guy is the worst of the craaazy liberal Democrats, should he be left to run unopposed???

Wouldn't Frank actually have to be a Democrat to be the worst of the craaazy liberal Democrats, or is that standard to reality-based?

I know, that's why Hillary is so mad. Too bad he wasn't a President.

Can't even face the facts. Man, that's what a player hater does. Textbook player hating, that right there.

"That's rich coming from a sad nut who's on record on this very blog defending sex with 12 year-old girls as recently as yesterday!!!" - pussy wannabe

Why do you hate the law? Don't liberals believe in the rule of law?

The law in some states says that girls as young as 13 can legally marry. Do you not support that law? If not, then what actions are you taking to protect those children? I mean, it's all about the children, right?

hmmm. . .

Republicans defend Pedophilia.
Mohammad had a 9 y/o bride. . .

And which party do we trust to defend American Values from the Islamofascists?

"That's rich coming from a sad nut who's on record on this very blog defending sex with 12 year-old girls as recently as yesterday!!!" - pussy wannabe

And I am sure you vociferously fought against Democrat Studds re-election considering your staunch opposition and disgust with pedophilia, right?

How could you even align yourself with a party that re-elected an admitted pedophile?

The law in some states says that girls as young as 13 can legally marry. . . .
Posted by: Jay on October 5, 2006 at 4:15 PM | PERMALINK

Technically Legal.

Nice.

Can you tell me Jay, just what the definition of is is?

Jay,

When the "opposition" has nothing of value or intelligence to contribute, it's best that they STFU and let the adults deal with it.

When you can come to the big table and discuss the issue that the Republican Mark Foley was a child predator and the Republican leadership (the party of so-called values and morals)let him do it to hold onto power, instead of opening your ignorant yap so "Clinton" or "Monica" or "Franks" falls out, then you will be respected as another point of view. Try taking some of that "responsibility" that these hypocrites like to shove down our throats (ie. Bennetts gambling, Limp-one's drug abuse, Foley's child diddling...). You know, pull yourself up by the bootstraps, and all that.

Oh yeah, can we give f**king Hitler a break, please? My relatives died in Poland thanks to Nazis and I doubt you know sweet F-A about Hitler and the Nazis...evidenced by your "pee your pants" conviction that a down and out (read "contained" by two no-fly zones and years of sanctions) old has-been like Saddam was even remotely as dangerous or powerful as Hitler was...Jeez I would be surprised if you could even find Germany (never mind Iraq) on a map.

Now if you want to compare Bush and Hitler, or Rummy and Hitler, or Dickhead Cheney and Hitler, you might be on to something....

And I am sure you vociferously fought against Democrat Studds re-election considering your staunch opposition and disgust with pedophilia, right?

feel free to link to any statements you made on Mr Studds prior to this week.

"....just what the definition of is is?"

Ask the Pussy Pirate. That was his gig.

Shorter Jay:

"I got nothing, but if we keep talking about sex, I might be able to get my rocks off!"

"....then you will be respected as another point of view" - Repub something

I don't want to be respected by you, I think you're an idiot. Thanks though.

"....and the Republican leadership (the party of so-called values and morals)let him do it" - Repub

That's just like when Clinton commutes Reynolds sentence and when Democrats re-elect Studds the admitted Pedophile.

"My relatives died in Poland thanks to Nazis" - repub

Too fucking bad you're not smarter than your then.

"feel free to link to any statements you made on Mr Studds prior to this week." - cleek

I am not defending, or witch hunting anything. Foley should have resigned in shame and he should be going to jail.

I am curious why there is so much outrage over a homosexual pedophile coming from the left. The left re-elected Studds, an admitted pedophile, and celebrates homosexuality, so this outrage is a bit disengenous, no?

Too fucking bad you're not smarter than your then.

Boy, the vicious sneer translates well when Jay spews hate at someone. He typed this so fast that it's incoherent and pathetic. I think what poor Jay meant to say was:

"Why won't anyone stick their finger up my ass?"

Poor Jay. All the neighborhood kids know that if he rolls by in his makeout van to run for the hills.

Ask the Pussy Pirate. That was his gig.
Posted by: Jay on October 5, 2006 at 4:21 PM | PERMALINK

Sounds like YOUR gig, trying to justify and defend what Foley did, and what Hastert and the rest of the Republican House leadership actively covered-up (and Foley paid good hush money for) for the past 2 years.

And you're trying to tell us that what Studds did makes it okay? Is that you're great "Moral Superiority" - arising from relativism?

You righties use the same twisted logic about torture too. "the terrorists cut people's heads off, so as long as we're not cutting off heads, we're good."

Disgusting.

I think it would be a fine idea just to ignore Ignorant Jay, Charlie/Cheney/ThomASS/ThomASS1, American Chickenshit and Al...OK, not Al, he's kinda fun.

But the rest? Ignore.

The left re-elected Studds,

actually, his district elected him. take it up with them.

an admitted pedophile, and celebrates homosexuality, so this outrage is a bit disengenous, no?

you're such a fucking cretin

".....trying to justify and defend what Foley did," - OBF

OK then, point to any of my posts where I defend Foley.

"And you're trying to tell us that what Studds did makes it okay?" - OBF

um.....no. Hang with me here stupid. I am asking why there is such outrage over Foley when the left actually re-elects admitted pedophiles.

"....just to ignore Ignorant Jay," - lost brain

You can't ignore us, we're your worst fucking nightmare.

I am not defending, or witch hunting anything. Foley should have resigned in shame and he should be going to jail.Posted by: Jay on October 5, 2006 at 4:32 PM | PERMALINK

So why didn't Hastert send him to jail 2 years ago when Hastert knew?

I am curious why there is so much outrage over a homosexual pedophile coming from the left.

That's because of your mental retardation. There's nothing to be curious about, because the outrage is over the COVERUP, and the violation of the online predator laws.

Not about homosexuality, and not about any consensual actual sex between Foley and a legal 16 y/o. (other than that the age of consent should probably be 18, but that's DC's law, so - whatever man.)

The left re-elected Studds, an admitted pedophile, and celebrates homosexuality, so this outrage is a bit disengenous, no?

Like I said - you're confused over what the outrage is about.

Or rather - you're not confused, you're pretending to be confused so you can distract from the REAL argument which is "Republicans Drunk On Power, Abuse that Power. - Elect someone from the opposite party to restore some fucking balance and perspective to our fucked up government."

"actually, his district elected him. take it up with them" - cleek

They were Democrats weren't they? Aren't you all one big warm fuzzy, global-warming fearing crowd?

btw, what does all of this matter anyway when Al Gore tells us we will all be wiped out in ten years? I say let's party on!

In this case, the cover-up is the issue. Who knew, what they knew and when, and why was nothing done? If one bears witness to injustice and does nothing, one is by association guilty of the same injustice. According to my Quaker friends, thats how it works, anyway, and that sounds good to me.

"....because the outrage is over the COVERUP, and the violation of the online predator laws." - OBF

Oh so that's it, the coverup. Is that the same coverup that precipitated the Plame case?

Or the coverup re: the NG?

Or the coverup re: the PDB's?

There are so many faux coverups and distractions that emanate from the left. Is that because you're still trying to come up with a plan to lead the country?

Yes let's ignore Jay the moron. I expected a better response....wait, no I didn't.

He accuses me of being an idiot with my first post but proves it about himself with his multiple stupid posts. Doesn't he have some homework to finish somewhere? Fuckin young republicans - who's great idea was that, now?

He really is quite loathesome and pathetic and he's right. Stupid fucking Bush cultists are our worst fucking nightmare...

"....and the Republican leadership (the party of so-called values and morals)let him do it"...

They were Democrats weren't they? Aren't you all one big warm fuzzy, global-warming fearing crowd?
btw, what does all of this matter anyway when Al Gore tells us we will all be wiped out in ten years? I say let's party on!
Posted by: Jay on October 5, 2006 at 4:43 PM | PERMALINK

. . . . besides, trying to call attention to our world's demise is a far worse crime than covering up a rampant child-sex predator for 2 years. If people started paying attention to global warming, then Republicans would be out of power, Oil CEO's would lose their golden parachutes, and we'd have to stop "Partying-on" -

Republicans: The Hedonism Party.

Dude! Let's all get rich, fuck children, and watch the world burn while we partaaaaaay! yeah!

Please remember that there is a very clear difference between being gay and being a pedophile. 98% of molested are by HETROSEXUAL males. Not homosexual. Gay is one thing. Pedophile another. Read it here: http://www.ralliance.org/PedoMyth.html
The studies show that only a very small percentage of pedophiles are gay, a percentage similar to the overall percentage of gay people in the population.

"Doesn't he have some homework to finish somewhere?" - Repub

Don't you have dead relatives to cry over?

I think it would be a fine idea just to ignore Ignorant Jay, Charlie/Cheney/ThomASS/ThomASS1, American Chickenshit and Al...OK, not Al, he's kinda fun.But the rest? Ignore.
Posted by: MeLoseBrain? on October 5, 2006 at 4:36 PM | PERMALINK

Yes, please. He is complete moron. He adds nothing to the discussion. Now maybe I don't either, but..wait...I just did.

All right gang, pony up. Alice needs some cash so she can dress up her dolls in USAF uniforms - You know, the pretend time she was on active duty - Well, she still likes to pretend with her dolls - She wants to send them to any Repug incarcerated and/or in rehab.

Just send the loot to, well, one of the trolls knows it very well. When he returns from Fire Island, he'll/she'll let us know.

Fuckin young republicans - who's great idea was that, now?
Posted by: RepubChildF**kers on October 5, 2006 at 4:50 PM | PERMALINK

Priceless.

You can't ignore us, we're your worst fucking nightmare.

First of all, there's no "us" unless you're talking about the voices in your head. If that's what you meant then I stand corrected.

Secondly, all the big man talk from such a little boy is laughable. The regulars here know that swarthy people scare you shitless and that you pee your pants at the thought of having to serve your country.

Finally, you are a nightmare -- but not for the reasons you think. You're nightmareishly stupid and scarily dense, and the fact that you don't get how bizarre, irrelevant, and disconnected from reality your rants are is sorta creepy, that's for sure.

And on a serious note, the casual nature with which you defend sex with kids is actually pretty disconcerting.

Aargh.

He is a complete moron.

Please remember that there is a very clear difference between being gay and being a pedophile.
Posted by: Paul on October 5, 2006 at 4:54 PM | PERMALINK

Paul - we get it. We ALL get it. Most of us. The ones that don't; no amount of arguing or facts are going to convince them. It's not worth the effort.

Of course they're going to use the gay=pedophile meme to try to distract from the real issue:
Republican=Authoritarian=Power Abusers.

Hell - they may not even believe the gay=pedophile meme themselves. But they'll use it, if it keeps their "side" winning. (or even if it doesn't work).

"The regulars here know that swarthy people scare you shitless and that you pee your pants at the thought of having to serve your country." - pussy wannabe

Yup, you know me as well as you know the electorate.

"And on a serious note, the casual nature with which you defend sex with kids is actually pretty disconcerting." - pussy wannabe

Oh a serious liberal, watch out. I guess if I was a Democrat, I could be re-elected.

"....and the fact that you don't get how bizarre, irrelevant, and disconnected from reality your rants are.." - pussy wannabe

Can you be more specific? That statement describes every single post on this site.

He's a pathetic little child trying to do anything....ANYTHING to get a rise out of the adults...even if that means saying the stupidest things possible.

That's what losers do when they have no friends - they bother the ones that do.

"....and the Republican leadership (the party of so-called values and morals)let him do it"...

AOL Instant Message exchanges that led to the resignation of Mark Foley were part of an online prank...blah, blah, blah...

Orwell also believes that Iraq had WMDs, Saddam was buddies with Al Qaeda and the Tooth Fairy is bringing him a pony.

Good luck with that Orwell.

Jay: Don't you have dead relatives to cry over?

You know when you lie alone in bed in the middle of the night and feel a deep, overpowering, paralyzing shame..?

That's me with you. And I've got big plans for your future.

"He's a pathetic little child trying to do anything....ANYTHING to get a rise out of the adults..." - Repub

But enough about Howard Dean.

I took a look on Wikipedia today since I didn't remember the Studds incident. I generally think that people in a position of power should not start affairs with people under them, and especially when those people are young. That said, there are some important differences in these two cases:

Studds was a 36 year old new congressman who had a consensual affair with a male 17 year old page. (Which Jay should understand was above the age of consent at the time and place the affair took place) When the affair came to light 10 years later, this younger man stood up with Studds in support of him at the press conference.

Foley is a 50-plus year old congressman who pursued multiple pages as young as 16, none of whom is claiming any love for him- in fact, the evidence suggests that Foley was pushing, and these kids were reluctant.

Studds was more or less openly gay, and his constituents knew it and reelected him to represent them.

Foley denied his sexuality because he knew his constituents would likely vote him out if they knew.

Studds and his lover did not break any laws, and Studds was a supporter of gay rights.

Foley likely broke laws, some of which he helped write as chair of a committee whose goal was to protect children from online sexual predators.

To me, it's all about the hypocrisy.

Adults feel shame; Jay just wants to feel something small, moist and bulbous.

And then he squeals with delight!

Is LaHood hearing the same thing?

Sure hope so.

Pale Rider! Long time since we rode the threads together...:) Missed that rapier wit, my friend.

Yup, the party of God is the party of child molesting, corruption, war mongering, and death. How does a good "christian" square that away in their feeble little mind?

The Modern GOP - Worse Than Nazis.

"....and the Republican leadership (the party of so-called values and morals)let him do it"...

My dead relatives cry for you, pathetic misguided one...

But enough about Howard Dean.
Posted by: Jay on October 5, 2006 at 5:06 PM | PERMALINK

Shorter Jay:

(oh no! Clenis alert didn't work! Soft on terror didn't work! Cut n run didn't work!, George Soros' vast-left-wing conspiracy didn't work. . . what will I try next?)

DEAN SCREAM! Howard Dean is CRAAAAZZZYYYY! Fear Dems! Their leader is CRAZY! Run for your lives!

This is gonna get much worse before it gets better - then we will really be able to count those that stand against us. Even Bay Buchanan has had enough.

Reminds me of the SNL cartoon about Michael Jackson where you just can't leave a warm, fresh baked young boy on your window sill without having Michael float on over...Now it's Foley who can't stay away from those warm, freshly baked Pages...

This is from Ann Coulter. Priceless.

"Hmmmm, let's search the memory bank. In July 2000, the New York Times "ethicist" Randy Cohen advised a reader that pulling her son out of the Cub Scouts because they exclude gay scoutmasters was "the ethical thing to do." The "ethicist" explained: "Just as one is honor bound to quit an organization that excludes African-Americans, so you should withdraw from scouting as long as it rejects homosexuals.

"We need to get a rulebook from the Democrats:

Boy Scouts: As gay as you want to be.

Priests: No gays!

Democratic politicians: Proud gay Americans.

Republican politicians: Presumed guilty.

White House press corps: No gays, unless they hate Bush.

Active-duty U.S. military: As gay as possible.

Men who date Liza Minelli: Do I have to draw you a picture, Miss Thing?

This is the very definition of political opportunism. If Republicans had decided to spy on Foley for sending overly friendly e-mails to pages, Democrats would have been screaming about a Republican witch-hunt against gays. But if they don't, they're enabling a sexual predator.

My dead relatives stood up against fascism - they were strong.

Those that embrace it, they are weak... Jay-weak.

"My dead relatives stood up against fascism - they were strong." - Repub

They must be very disappointed in you.

"(oh no! Clenis alert didn't work! Soft on terror didn't work! Cut n run didn't work!, George Soros' vast-left-wing conspiracy didn't work. . . what will I try next?)" - OBF

There is just a lot of material to work with. The Left is the gift that keeps on giving (and receiving, no pun intended).

Great, now we're quoting Mann Coulter.

This is where I get off the stupid train. One way trip, apparently....

"....and the Republican leadership (the party of so-called values and morals)let him do it"...

If Republicans had decided to spy on Foley for sending overly friendly e-mails to pages, Democrats would have been screaming about a Republican witch-hunt against gays. But if they don't, they're enabling a sexual predator.

And if they'd actually looked into matters when they found out that a fifty year old guy was sending "sick sick sick" emails to teenaged pages (liiiike, maybe reading the emails in question?) instead of ignoring it and keeping it all hush-hush, we'd have little to complain about.

Foley denied his sexuality because he knew his constituents would likely vote him out if they knew. pdq

I was just talking to a relative who was one of Foley's constituents and supporters. He tells me that while Foley was definately in the closet, his homosexuality was kind of an open secret in his district. According to my brother his sexuality just wasn't a problem for many of his supporters.

You have to remember where his district is located--Florida's treasure coast--the land of Palm Beach, Jupiter Island, Admiral's Cove and a bunch of other pretty "liberal" economic Republican enclaves.

Now, from what I have been told, while the homosexuality might not have been a problem, hitting on teenage pages was definately a no-no for his constituents.

Long time since we rode the threads together...:)

Hey, miss thang!

Want to go shoe shopping?

I saw Ann Coulter in the waiting room at my proctologist's office. "Her" prostrate was flaring up I gather.

"And if they'd actually looked into matters when they found out that a fifty year old guy was sending "sick sick sick" emails to teenaged pages" - pdq

Kind of like when O'Neil found out about Studds nearly a decade before it surfaced. Oops, sorry to point out your hypocrisy.

I'm a complete and total moron. You people should just ignore my sad and pathetic attempts to get attention. Mommy didn't love me and Daddy raped me with a hot poker when I was young every night. I love teh nazis.

Heil Bush!

"How does a good "christian" square that away in their feeble little mind?" - son of dead relatives

I am not Christian. I wonder how the Muslims square that? Shouldn't we find out? I mean, we want to appear sensitive to them right?

"That's just like when Clinton commutes Reynolds sentence and when Democrats re-elect Studds the admitted Pedophile."

If the Republicans are just like the Democrats in their morals, then what have they got to offer?

A plan? Remember that stating a goal is not the same as providing a plan to accomplish it. Remember that sticking with an existing plan is not rational unless there is evidence to demonstrate that it's working.

Accomplishments? Point to this administration's accomplishments, please. How has the United States become better place for me and my children since 2000? How has the United States contributed to making conditions around the world safer and more civilized since 2000? How has this administration helped to safeguard the future of this earth?

Why, Pale Rider (*blush*) you know how I just love,/em> a nice pair of Mary Janes. And I can still fit into my high-school uniform...

I'm sensitive to Muslims all the time. Don't I love it when they slide their uncut members into my anus?

A guy walked past a Gold Star father taking part in the AFSC-sponsored anti-war protesters at the Nichols Fountain last Sunday and said "So? he signed up."

Now we know who it was.

I'm just jealous and wish I was Foley's page.

"Pale Rider! Long time since we rode the threads together...:) Missed that rapier wit, my friend." - global idiot

And this is what constitutes a "rapier" wit.

"I'm a complete and total moron. You people should just ignore my sad and pathetic attempts to get attention. Mommy didn't love me and Daddy raped me with a hot poker when I was young every night. I love teh nazis." - frail rider

And this is the company you keep?

OT it's been a long time since i've been here,
where's tbroz (sp)

I'm so paranoid I blame other people for the comments I make. Don't I need serious mental help????

My alternate personality thinks I'm frail rider!

Kind of like when O'Neil found out about Studds nearly a decade before it surfaced. Oops, sorry to point out your hypocrisy.

Posted by: Jay on October 5, 2006

Funny you should mention Tip O'Neill's reaction to Stubbs. My understanding from listening to his assistant at the time, Chris Matthews, Tip O'Neill was furious about Stubbs. He would have strung him up if he could.

Jay, the voters kept re-electing Studds, not the party. What part of democracy don't you like? All of it?

Isn't it all Clinton's fault though?

Jay, we have talked about this. Your internet priveledges will be curtailed once more if you persist in being a jerk to others. Remember, you were not at all fond of the aversion therapy and it worked so well. If you are not nicer you will be sent back to raodie-ing for The Wiggles.

"Point to this administration's accomplishments, please" - cowalker

Record low unemployment
-All time high home ownership
-All time high DJIA
-12 consecutive quarters of high GDP growth
-New allies in Pakistan, Afghanistan, India and Libya
-No domestic terrorist incidence and many thwarted
-The white collar criminals of the 90's; convicted
-Bush has yet to invade and kill any domestic religious cults

oh and here's an example of your party:

Nancy Pelosi voted to make Gerry Studds a committee chairman on five diffeent occasions knowing that he was a convicted pedophile.

"Tip O'Neill was furious about Stubbs. He would have strung him up if he could." - byers

uh oh watch out, a liberal tough on crime (if they could, kind of, maybe, well a little).

Jay, that stuff your dealer is selling you is not what you think it is. Time to get off the meth & do some detox time.

Seriously, time to detox.

"Patriotism is not a short and frenzied outburst of emotion but the tranquil and steady dedication of a lifetime." - Adlai E. Stevenson, Jr.

I just want a dick in my ass and my alternate personality's keeping my in the closet! Help! I'm trapped in the body of a repressed prick!

I self-loath and hate the democrats because I hate myself! uh oh i'm really gettin off on all of this

I love how the bottom-feeders like Jay keep bringing up the events surrounding an obscure Congressman like Gerry Studds - a censure that happened 23 years ago based on events which began 33 years ago. And whose facts were materially different.

People don't care about this pathetic attempt at deflection, Jay. They don't know who Gerry Studds is and they sure as hell don't care what happened in 1983.

Here is the ugly truth that no one wants to address:
The way things stand now, the Republicans are going to loose Congress.
The scandal's are piling up against them, and even if the rumor is false that there are two other Republicans who have a fancy for young boys, the damage is done.

The truth, ugly and unvarnished, and being completeley ignored is that OBL wants the US to remain in Iraq, he wants US to remain doing what we've been doing. OBL wants to bleed us slowly, not to quick or else we'll catch on and do something different. No, slowly, quietly, over time, each minute another drop of of blood lost. Another step taken in the direction that OBL wants us to go in.

So if the Democrats takeover, there will be changes that will run counter to OBL's plans which are an emaciated US foriegn policy of all bark and no bite, leaving him or his successors to proceed as they have planned in the ME.

Take the long view here folks, OBL is a patient man, and as long as GWB does what he's suppose too, things will go as they are.
So, here is where I see us encounting a real nasty problem, real freaking soon:
If OBL views the latest episodes of Republicans screwing his plans up by loosing the elections en masse, OBL will strike the US...hard enough for the Republicans to recover their halos and do something predictable and asinine.
There are too many Americans who have said, "I will glady trade my Constitutional rights and privilidges for a false sense of security, give it to me, now!" And there are to many Republicans who have shown a willingness to accomadate such bargins.
So, lets be prepared because OBL will do whatever he can to ensure that the Republicans stay in office.

"People don't care about this pathetic attempt at deflection, Jay. They don't know who Gerry Studds is and they sure as hell don't care what happened in 1983." - Alek Hidell

1983 was the start of our great conservative revolution! Everyone cares! Reagan was my God and the dilluded democrats can't get anything done! The economy under Clinton was NOTHING compared to the economy under Reagan! Clinton was a mean nasty warmonger who personally ran over practicing Christians with a backho while rapingg interns in the air with!

Nancy Pelosi voted to make Gerry Studds a committee chairman on five diffeent occasions knowing that he was a convicted pedophile.

Er, except that Studds was never charged with, much less convicted of, any crime even distantly related to pedophilia, making him about as far from a "convicted pedophile" as is it is possible to be.

Call the pharmacy - we need 2 mg. of lorazepam for Jay. he is hallucinating about Bill Clinton's penis again.

"Call the pharmacy - we need 2 mg. of lorazepam for Jay. he is hallucinating about Bill Clinton's penis again." - Nurse Ratched

As big and tasty and satisfying as it is!

cowalker: How has the United States become better place for me and my children since 2000? How has the United States contributed to making conditions around the world safer and more civilized since 2000?

Yesterday I posted a link to statistics showing that all quintiles of the U.S. income distribution have more wealth now than in January 2000. Most of Iraq and most of Afghanistan are safer and more civilized than in 2000. Venezuela, Pakistan, Darfur, and Somalia seem on the whole to be worse off -- a fact that I note so as not to be foolishly optimistic.

Der Dennyfuehrer has decided to stay in Berlin. He will personally lead the defense of the city and the result will be Germany's greatest victory.

Point A) regarding the bandying about of the term pedophile, neither Studds, nor Foley were pedophiles as they were not seeking pre-pubescent children. Whereas the republican hack over in a secretaries position at DHS was seeking pre-pubescent kids he was a pedophile.

Point B) The ratio of the shrillness of Jay and Co. is directly proportional to how far into the gutter the republicans have sunk.

Point C) Those who scream loudest are often the most guilty. See: Foley pushes child predator legislation with himself in mind.

Point D) Self-loathing is a favorite pass-time of republicans. For Evidence See: the entire republican admin which railed against big gov't then enlarged it, railed against spending and we are swimming in the red, railed against nation building (Iraq anyone?), rail against homosexuality while remaining in the closet, claim the bible as the authority on morality then completely ignore it.

Yes These are the so-called leaders of the "Moral" party. So F'ed up they can't even keep their stories straight (snicker) on who was porkin who on the hill.

And like Nero bush fiddles while Rome falls not from the barbarians without but from the rot within.

What an entitlement culture.

What ever happened to the old adage "never dip you pen in company ink?"

"Point C) Those who scream loudest are often the most guilty. See: Foley pushes child predator legislation with himself in mind.

Point D) Self-loathing is a favorite pass-time of republicans. For Evidence See: the entire republican admin which railed against big gov't then enlarged it, railed against spending and we are swimming in the red, railed against nation building (Iraq anyone?), rail against homosexuality while remaining in the closet, claim the bible as the authority on morality then completely ignore it." - Dreggas

...Republicans scream the loudest on terror, and are hence the most likely to condone terrorism?

Republicans scream the loudest on terror, and are hence the most likely to condom state sponsored terrorism.

Jay, we have addressed this in therapy as well. There is a difference between fear-mongering and opposing terrorism. Do we have to go back into the Yellow Room?

Jeez Louise ...

Given the choice between Nathan and Will Allen on the previous thread and Jay on this one -- I think I'll take what's behind Door Number 2, Monty ...

Bob

Given Condi's recent "amnesia" with regards to hearing about plans for attacks within the united states and the willingness of republicans to scream it to the high heavens to terrorize people (ie make them afraid to do anything but vote republican - terrorism minus violence) yes Jay. But I won't be speaking with you until you have gone to rehab for your kool-aid addiction.

Hearing Hasturd accepting responsibility is like hearing chimpy taking responsibility for Katrina.
The bastard reminds me of Baron Vladimir Harkonnen.

" yes Jay. But I won't be speaking with you...."- Dreggas queen

I can't tell you how saddened I am.

"..and are hence the most likely to condom state sponsored terrorism." - will

Only a liberal would advocate condoms for terrorists.

Breaking:

Brian Ross, the ABC newsman on top of this story, has 3 more pages including one that says Foley "arranged a sexual liason with him"

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/10/three_more_form.html

Gee, I wonder why these pages didn't phone Denny's tip line instead?

"Clinton was a mean nasty warmonger who personally ran over practicing Christians with a backho while rapingg interns in the air with!"

Frail Rider, at the very least, end your sentences properly.

Only a liberal would advocate condoms for terrorists.

Only a right-wing nutjob like you would advocate letting terrorists procreate freely.

gotta love it. Point B keeps being proven again. Who knows this could be the next theory of relativity.

From Josh Marshall:

One of the many funny things about Denny Hastert's silly lies about Democrats being responsible for his scandal is this: is this really their position? If the Democrats would have just focused on the real issues instead of blowing the whistle on our caucus pedophilia, we could have gone back to the real business of passing laws and molesting teenagers! Let's focus on the people's business! Oh, and also our funny business. If it weren't for George Soros I could be cranking out a few good IMs right now!

Jay, if you persist with the spin, you will be forced to watch the Newshour in the day room. last time you watched the Newshour you needed bloodpressure medication for three whole days, and it is contraindicated with your anti-psychotics.

...the New York Times "ethicist" Randy Cohen...blah, blah, blah...zzzzz.

Everyone knows that Hastert visited the true "ethicist" yesterday. Rush Drug-Addling, Divorce Accumulatin', Affair-havin', Viagra-Poppin', Dominican-Republic YoungGirl Bangin' LimpBough

rather than abolishing the page program, why not let's abolish the GOP presence in the Congress?

from George Will: After the 1936 election, in which President Franklin Roosevelt shellacked the Republican nominee in all but two states, a humorist wrote: "If the outcome of this election hasn't taught you Republicans not to meddle in politics, I don't know what will.'' If after the Foley episode -- a maraschino cherry atop the Democrats' delectable sundae of Republican miseries -- the Democrats cannot gain 13 seats, they should go into another line of work.

"Divorce Accumulatin', Affair-havin', Viagra-Poppin', Dominican-Republic YoungGirl Bangin' LimpBough" - ckelly

But enough about Bill Clinton.....oh excuse me: Pussy Pirate.

[utter gibberish]...Reagan was my God...[utter gibberish]...

This explains a lot about Jay.

We are going to have to get out the Pink Floyd and the Steely Dan and go back into the Yellow Room Jay. You have been warned. You were doing so well before this Foley unpleasantness, too. Now the whole world is back to revolving around Bill Clinton's penis. Jay - nobody's goodies are as important as you seem to think the former presidents are.

"[utter gibberish]...Reagan was my God...[utter gibberish]...
This explains a lot about Jay." - ckelly

uh no, it explains a lot about Frail Rider though.

You guys are soooo easily fooled. Look a coverup!

For the record;
This conversation is truly damning:

Maf54 (8:56:17 PM): we will be adjourned ny then

Xxxxxxxxx (8:56:23 PM): oh good

Maf54 (8:56:24 PM): by

Maf54 (8:57:10 PM): then we can have a few drinks

Maf54 (8:57:11 PM): lol

Xxxxxxxxx (8:57:19 PM): yes yes ;-)

Maf54 (8:57:29 PM): your not old enough to drink

Xxxxxxxxx (8:57:44 PM): shhh….

Maf54 (8:57:47 PM): ok

Xxxxxxxxx (8:57:49 PM): thats not what my ID says

Xxxxxxxxx (8:57:50 PM): lol Maf54 (8:57:54 PM): ok

Xxxxxxxxx (8:58:13 PM): i probably shouldnt be telling you that huh

Maf54 (8:58:15 PM): we may need to drink at my house so we dont get busted

from Joe Conason: While Hastert has never seemed capable of sustained cogitation, his responses to the questions raised by the Foley scandal have been particularly obtuse, and yet highly revealing as well. Sometimes he remembers being told about Foley, sometimes he doesn't. In either case, he accepts no responsibility.

"Only a right-wing nutjob like you would advocate letting terrorists procreate freely." - deranged liberal

Keep out their bedrooms. Terrorists have rights too, in fact the Geneva rights, remember. You're showing your insensitivity towards Muslims, you are part of the problem.

"In either case, he accepts no responsibility." - papago

And then there's the facts:

"The Illinois Republican said he is taking full responsibility for not being more aggressive in the investigation of former Rep. Mark Foley's inappropriate communications with two underage pages, but said he only heard about Foley's e-mails and explicit instant messages to one of the pages after it appeared in the press last Friday, Sept. 29."

Hastert Says He Did Nothing Wrong in Foley Page Scandal
Thursday, October 05, 2006

Again from Josh Marshall:

Asked if he had any evidence to back up his claims that ABC, Democrats and George Soros are behind this scandal, his answer was basically, 'Oh, all I know is what I hear.' In other words, I don't have any evidence at all. But I did see something like it on Newsmax. So I figured I'd go with it.

"Clinton was a mean nasty warmonger who personally ran over practicing Christians with a backho while rapingg interns in the air with!"

Uh, not my sentence.

But why would we expect anything beyond gibberish from you at this point?

Dude, you got some issues with sex, dontcha?

"Dude, you got some issues with sex, dontcha?" - Frail Rider

Dude? You have issues with pronouns I see.

The Republican view of terrorism,

http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2006/10/new-definition-of-terrorism-update.html

"Remember how 9/11 blew the Gary Condit / Chandra Levy scandal off the pages for all time? Look for the capture of Osama in the next four weeks. Count on it."

Patrick, can you smell that smell ? Smells like fear ? .. Capturing Osama strikes me as much too difficult. Bombing Iran is a much simpler solution..Count on it..

Shimkus sez he didn't see the emails, Hastert claims Shimkus did? Strange daze...

What cocktail circuit ... Jay 4:09 PM

Here's some conservative reaction to the matter:

The Washington Times — "House Speaker Dennis Hastert must do the only right thing, and resign his speakership at once."

National Review — "Rep. Foley resigned his office when the story broke. Republican conduct since then has fallen rather short of a moral reckoning."

Bay Buchanan — "They failed the parents of this country is what they did."

Michael Reagan — "Any member of Congress who was aware of the sexual emails and protected the congressman should also resign effective immediately."

David Bossie, president of conservative organization Citizens United — "Speaker Hastert had knowledge of Congressman Foley’s inappropriate behavior and chose to protect a potential pedophile and powerful colleague over a congressional page."

Michelle Malkin — "There is a time and place for attacking the Dems and the MSM. Now is not that time. Parents need assurance that their kids are safe on Capitol Hill. If Beltway GOP elites can't understand this, they are beyond hope."

The Chicago Tribune — "If there is more to this story than what officials have acknowledged--that is, if the House leadership's dereliction of duty goes even further--then consequences must be harsh."

Maggie Gallagher — "With great power comes great responsibility. Memo to GOP House leaders: Have the decency to accept responsibility and resign from leadership. Or come November, I vote to let the other side put their bums in charge."

Richard Viguerie — "...only the most recent example of Republican House leaders doing whatever it takes to hold onto power."

Tony Blankley — "In this case, defending Denny Hastert's decisions is ethically wrong, would undermine our party's commitment to the defense of traditional moral values and is politically stupid in the bargain."

Larry Kudlow — One final point — the mealy-mouthed defense that the instant messages weren’t known until recently is nonsense. Foley’s earlier emails were more than sufficient to sound the alarm that a huge problem was brewing. The IM defense of Hastert is a loser.

Did someone say "roger the page boy"?

Someone called me a butt pirate. Well, all I'll say is I've done my share of jolly rogering.

Will you protect me from becoming the filling of a Jay/ /Thomas1 sandwich, maf54? Our relationship has been an inspiration, your mentoring has been indearing, to say the least; and you have always been my favorite member.

One of the two GOP members who are slated to get swept up in this scandal is surely Hastert. Remember that his job prior to becoming a US Rep was as a high school wrestling coach....

Roger, the page boy

Arrrgh! Methinks a good butt pirate needs a cabin boy. Be you him?

Jay: "The Illinois Republican said he is taking full responsibility for not being more aggressive in the investigation of former Rep. Mark Foley's inappropriate communications with two underage pages, but said he only heard about Foley's e-mails and explicit instant messages to one of the pages after it appeared in the press last Friday, Sept. 29."

that just means he is taking no responsibility. "Taking responsibility" means doing something useful or repenting and suffering punishment. Ever since Nixon said "I take full responsibility for ... ," the phrase "I take full responsibility means "I hope to get off scott-free by pretending to take full responsibility."

Even among Republican/conservative commentators who think there are Democrats who share culpability for not acting on their knowledge, no one believes Hastert is telling the truth. Most of the Republicans now in the House voted to impeach Clinton; surely they could have found a way to stop Foley from preying on young pages. They let him continue to engage in behavior that they considered to be an impeachible offense. It is a step in the right direction that Foley resigned as fast as he did; now the rest of the responsible Republicans need to confess, repent, do penance (i.e., resign from positions of power), and then beg for forgiveness.

After the Republicans come clean, then they can claim that some Democrats are culpable as well. It was the Democrats who passed the law making sex with an employee or assistant a crime. Both parties are acting hypocritically; but the people who voted to impeach Clinton had the stronger moral rquirement to control Foley. They are the same people who wanted action against Studds, Frank, Condit, and Clinton.

BF?

Who's on Frist?

Costello: That's right!

NEW NAME FOR GOP? GANG OF PERVERTS !!!!

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"there are two more Republican members about to get swept up in this thing."

My money is on Hastert himself.

jay: Bill Clinton.....oh excuse me: Pussy Pirate

G.W. Bush asked by the Hartford Courant in 1998, "When you're not talking about politics, what do you and your father talk about?"

George W. replied without hesitation, "Pussy."

- Salon, 9th April 2000

If Congress can't be trusted with America's children, what can it be trusted with? President George Bush should do the right thing and suspend Congress for the time being. It is out of control and can't stop taxing and spending.

Well, I know James Dobson's alrrady deeply involved and is even now administering a laying on of hands, as it were...

When in doubt, pray away the gay.

"already". Sheesh. Long day.

Btw, Pt. Two of the historic summit between Foley and Dobson will be posted sometime Saturday. So stay tuned...

This is an adult discussion, Charlie. Only 12-year old girls use "LOL."

...or 52 year-old Republican congressmen...