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October 17, 2006

TRIVIAL PET PEEVE WATCH....I don't know why, but I've gotten really tired of the relentless contemporary use of the phrase "full disclosure." It's become a transparent excuse for drawing attention to ones sterling connections while simultaneously affecting a dedication to some kind of fanciful Olympian standard of rhetorical honesty. What's more, it's almost always unnecessary. Compare and contrast:

This report by John Doe makes a great point. (Full disclosure: I originally met John when we were students at Harvard and we've been yachting buddies ever since.)

This report, written by my friend (colleague/former boss/brother-in law) John Doe, makes a great point.

Unless you're under some legal obligation to do so, can we knock off this "full disclosure" nonsense? It belongs on the trash heap.

UPDATE: OK, I give in. If full disclosures were more like this, I might learn to like them.

Kevin Drum 2:23 PM Permalink | Trackbacks | Comments (48)
 
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For full disclosure, I must mention that I live in Southern California, just like Mr. Drum.

Posted by: gregor on October 17, 2006 at 2:25 PM | PERMALINK

Here is my pet peeves: Cynical reports like these:

House Homeland Security Chairman Peter King (R-NY) spoke at the Merrick Jewish Center in Merrick, NY. King told his constituents that “the situation [in Iraq] is more stable than you think.” He cited “bumper to bumper traffic,” shopping centers, restaurants, video stores, vendors, and hotels to conclude that being in Baghdad is “like being in Manhattan.”

and

Take Representative Terry Everett, a seven-term Alabama Republican who is vice chairman of the House intelligence subcommittee on technical and tactical intelligence.

“Do you know the difference between a Sunni and a Shiite?” I asked him a few weeks ago.

Mr. Everett responded with a low chuckle. He thought for a moment: “One’s in one location, another’s in another location. No, to be honest with you, I don’t know. I thought it was differences in their religion, different families or something.”

To his credit, he asked me to explain the differences. I told him briefly about the schism that developed after the death of the Prophet Muhammad, and how Iraq and Iran are majority Shiite nations while the rest of the Muslim world is mostly Sunni. “Now that you’ve explained it to me,” he replied, “what occurs to me is that it makes what we’re doing over there extremely difficult, not only in Iraq but that whole area.”


If I didn't love blastocysts and hate gays so, this would make me doubt...

Posted by: Al's Mommy on October 17, 2006 at 2:33 PM | PERMALINK

Foley: What ya wearing?
Teen: tshirt and shorts
Foley: (Full disclosure: Love to slip them off you)

Foley: Do I make you a little horny?
Teen: (Full disclosure: A little.)
Foley: Cool.

Posted by: Maf54 on October 17, 2006 at 2:33 PM | PERMALINK

I'm not surprised a liberal wants to reduce the amount of information given to the reader. The elites will tell us what to think, right Kevin?

FULL DISCLOSURE: I'm a libertarian patriot. I come from that perspective, and I think too much disclosure is better than too little. Also, I went to one of Kevin's "Eating Liberally" things.

See? Was that so hard?

Posted by: American Hawk on October 17, 2006 at 2:35 PM | PERMALINK

Wasn't "Full Disclosure" a movie with Demi Moore? If not, it should have been.

Posted by: craigie on October 17, 2006 at 2:36 PM | PERMALINK

Full disclosure should mean something like "all my friends and associates either work for investment bankers or huge insurance companies, and I also receive a lot of plum work from those institutions to defend finance capitalism. These connections have everything to do with my rejection of universal health care and my advocacy of keeping medical plans private in all of those liberal journals where I publish."

Posted by: Hostile on October 17, 2006 at 2:41 PM | PERMALINK

You're wrong Kevin. The point of the full disclosure thing is to tamp down a "gotcha" later on. Someone can raise that past connection and try and make a story about how you didn't mention it. If you did mention it, then there's no real grounds for an extra story or point on that score.

Anything that snuffs out oxygen from a potential response is a smart tactical move.

Posted by: plunge on October 17, 2006 at 2:43 PM | PERMALINK

Actually, "Full Disclosure" has a purpose, especially in financial journalism (or "journalism"). Saying "Full disclosure: I own some shares of BifCo" has real meaning to the reader of a huge ode to the joys of BifCo stock.

Also, it would help Charlie's droolings if he were to write "Full disclosure: I call myself a Democrat, but I still refer to the Democrat party, root for the GOP, and in every other way cannot be taken seriously."

Posted by: craigie on October 17, 2006 at 2:54 PM | PERMALINK

Hawk, you are a great, modern libertarian -- one that doesn't give a shit about liberties, wants to regulate people's lives, enforce a theocracy, etc.! Libertarians like you and Dems like Thomas1 and me -- we should get together more!

Posted by: Al's Mommy on October 17, 2006 at 2:57 PM | PERMALINK

Craigie: as a term of art in legal or financial pieces, I don't have a problem with it. Its migration to mainstream journalism is what I object to. Notifying your audience that you're referring to someone you know socially can be done easily and naturally, and there's no need to call special attention to it unless the relationship genuinely requires it.

Posted by: Kevin Drum on October 17, 2006 at 3:07 PM | PERMALINK

I think invoking "full disclosure" is just a normative outgrowth of the swidden politics that have been de rigeur for about 20 years now.

How I miss those cheesy "Its morning in America" ads as the mud flings fast and furious.

Posted by: Global Citizen on October 17, 2006 at 3:13 PM | PERMALINK

Kevin,

In the example you gave, would you have been OK if it read "this report by John Doe, a personal friend, makes a good point"?

Posted by: Yancey Ward on October 17, 2006 at 3:27 PM | PERMALINK

Does anyone recall the Happy Days episode, where Fonzie has to admit he was wrong, and just can't say the word?

In that spirit, I have to say, American Chickenhawk is ri..., is rig...., is righ..., oh, shit, he's not entirely wrong!

I'm not sure if Kevin's peeve is the actual disclosure, or just using the term "full disclosure" (my guess is the latter), but, when writing about a person, company or event, a journalist should disclose any personal ties he or she may have.

Posted by: MeLoseBrain? on October 17, 2006 at 3:29 PM | PERMALINK

Does anyone recall the Happy Days episode...

In my house, if anyone admitted remembering an episode of Happy Days, whoever was in ear-shot would point and shout Geek Check!!!

Posted by: Global Citizen on October 17, 2006 at 3:36 PM | PERMALINK

No one seems to have really understood this post. Partially this is Kevin's fault because he failed to drop a "vs." between his two examples.

His complaint is with "the phrase 'full disclosure'", not with disclosing conflicts.

Posted by: oivey on October 17, 2006 at 3:39 PM | PERMALINK

Sounds good Kevin, but in exchange could you stop using "baby" as in "Honor and dignity, baby, honor and dignity"? Hardly anything you write irritates me, but this does. Thanks.

Posted by: paul on October 17, 2006 at 3:43 PM | PERMALINK

Also on the trash heap should be:

Paradigm shift
Up or down vote
Date certain*


* Because we don't buy grapes red.

Posted by: Hedley Lamarr on October 17, 2006 at 3:57 PM | PERMALINK

And dichotomy - don't forget to throw that one out too.

Posted by: Global Citizen on October 17, 2006 at 3:58 PM | PERMALINK

One of my favorite conceptual art pieces is "Full Financial Disclosure" by the (in)famous artist Chris Burden. He declared that for a period of time (IIRC 3 months) he would conduct all transactions by check, or if cash was required, he would write a check for cash. But all the checks had a note on them declaring what the money was spent on. I saw the piece at his retrospective, all the checks were nicely framed and mounted on a wall. Most of the checks were for mundane crap like utility bills, gasoline, art supplies, etc. but I noticed one repetitive theme, checks to Cash for $50, marked "Drugs."

Posted by: charlie don't surf on October 17, 2006 at 4:16 PM | PERMALINK

Actually, I DO want to know if someone "met while students at Harvard and have been yachting buddies ever since".

As the Daily Howler never fails to point out, commentary is the province of the rich and well-connected. That explains the parochial, narrow view of almost everyone (including progressives) I read. Or at least I think that's the explanation.

Like most Americans, I don't know anyone who went to Harvard, and don't know anyone who knows anyone who went to Harvard. It might be unremarkable to you, Kevin, but to me, the fact that someone went to Harvard with someone and had a yacht is very important to my evaluation of what he says.

Posted by: captcrisis on October 17, 2006 at 4:22 PM | PERMALINK

Kevin, you have too much time on your hands and you seem a wee bit bitchy.

No crosswords today?

Posted by: Keith G on October 17, 2006 at 4:39 PM | PERMALINK

Yes, I didn't even see the second version of Kevin's comparison. Yikes! Time for some coffee.

Posted by: Yancey Ward on October 17, 2006 at 4:40 PM | PERMALINK

The one that drives me to distraction is when somebody is trying to say that they're being frank or candid, but instead says, "To be honest with you...." What? You've been lying until now? There are a few people I know for whom this is a conversational tic, and it's all I can do to keep from strangling them.

There. I feel better now.

Posted by: chaunceyatrest on October 17, 2006 at 4:55 PM | PERMALINK

"new and improved" on product labels makes me crazy - like what were we buying before? Old and rotten?

Posted by: Global Citizen on October 17, 2006 at 4:58 PM | PERMALINK

Another couple of REALLY annoying pet peeves, since we're on the subject:

1. People who use "quantum" to mean "big." Jeez, people, get a thesaurus or a dictionary, or read a book or something.

2. Reporters and pundits who use "on the ground" constantly. Unless we're talking about airbourne infantry or something like that, where the hell else does anything take place? Give it a rest, already.

Thanks for the chance to vent my spleen on these :)

Posted by: Cicero Hood on October 17, 2006 at 5:17 PM | PERMALINK

Shorter Kevin Drum:

Shut up, Jack Shafer.

Posted by: Patience on October 17, 2006 at 5:20 PM | PERMALINK

And while we're at it, how about losing "at the end of the day..." and "going forward..."?

Posted by: puffin on October 17, 2006 at 5:45 PM | PERMALINK

Actually if all the boys at the Corner including Kate O'Bierne disclosed their spouses' job as Republican hacks of politico or the other, the heads of the base will explode.

Posted by: gregor on October 17, 2006 at 5:51 PM | PERMALINK

Global Citizen,

Uh, doesn't it really mean that you were using the older and not as good?

Posted by: Yancey Ward on October 17, 2006 at 5:52 PM | PERMALINK

Well, yeah, but it just doesn't have the same zip, ya know?

Posted by: Global Citizen on October 17, 2006 at 6:18 PM | PERMALINK

"timeframe"
"politically correct / incorrect"
"Hitler"
"factoid" (unless used in its original meaning: a thing that resembles a fact, but isn't. If you mean "little fact", try "factlet" on for size.)
"ahead of / behind the curve"
"niche", unless you plan to put a vase or somesuch in it.

This all reminds me of a passage from Gordon Baxter, an aviation writer, who's publisher commanded his writers to cease using cliches and tired metaphors. In response, he (or the person he was quoting) wrote back to "congratulate you for having the courage of a lion to set foot where the hand of man hath never trod before in these shark-infested waters."
I always liked that...

Posted by: Fred the Fourth on October 17, 2006 at 6:28 PM | PERMALINK

"shot down"
"spoke out"

Posted by: Swift Loris on October 17, 2006 at 6:50 PM | PERMALINK

"Think outside the box."

Posted by: Global Citizen on October 17, 2006 at 7:03 PM | PERMALINK

Full Disclosure: I think Amy Sullivan's makes solid points comes to her posts on this site.

Full Disclosure: I hate cats.

Posted by: MNPundit on October 17, 2006 at 7:20 PM | PERMALINK

Puffin writes:

And while we're at it, how about losing "at the end of the day..." and "going forward..."?

I couldn't agree more - so much so, that we must have been separated at birth.

Posted by: chuck on October 17, 2006 at 9:14 PM | PERMALINK

Oh, at let's get rid of "ratcheting up," shall we? That sounds SO DUMB.

It's rhetorically (to say nothing of syllabically) clumsy, and "increasing" invariably sounds better.

Posted by: chuck on October 17, 2006 at 9:15 PM | PERMALINK

"At the end of the day." Dammit -- I use that phrase all the time :(

I will *not* give up dichotomy, though.

Bob

Posted by: rmck1 on October 17, 2006 at 9:35 PM | PERMALINK

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Posted by: mmf铃声 on October 17, 2006 at 10:04 PM | PERMALINK

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Posted by: Norman Rogers on October 17, 2006 at 10:30 PM | PERMALINK

For a real full disclosure see:
Truth-in-Reviewing Disclosure: Author and reviewer have collaborated for more than a decade on an archaeological project ... and have co-authored a dozen articles.

Posted by: Brian Boru on October 18, 2006 at 12:50 AM | PERMALINK

Jane Galt, really, has the best response to all this.

Posted by: DonBoy on October 18, 2006 at 1:21 AM | PERMALINK

I first met Mark Foley on the deck of the Herr Fruzenhoffer (named after an obscure Prussian brigadier general who lost both of his testes at the age of twelve in an equestrian accident, but perservered). He has been plying me with sherbet and gin ever since.

Posted by: Tazio on October 18, 2006 at 1:56 AM | PERMALINK

I get the point: "full disclosure" has become a cliché. It would be nice if people would use more creativity, but "full discosure" is a comfy boilerplate caveat that doesn't require too much thinking.

I often see it used in tongue-in-cheek fashion, as a way of saying "look, you ought to know this by now but so that the dolts don't scream bias I'm telling you up front." There's a certain exasperation in that, a way of saying that ]FNORD[ doesn't really matter but that somebody spoiling for a fight might try to exploit it.

Posted by: Saint Fnordius on October 18, 2006 at 2:41 AM | PERMALINK

I thought full disclosure was when any "news" anchor on CNN came on and said:

"Hi, I'm (whomever) and I'm auditioning for Fox News, so I will try to be "fair and balanced" and give you as many of the right wing talking points I can squeeze in during any segment."

Posted by: thethirdPaul on October 18, 2006 at 10:34 AM | PERMALINK

I want a moratorium on adding "-gate" to every scandal.

Move on already - these guys make the Watergate burglars look like high-school kids busting curfew. They were pikers in comparison. It doesn't hype an issue to add "-gate" to it, it dicinishes it. Sheesh.

Posted by: Global Citizen on October 18, 2006 at 4:13 PM | PERMALINK

My pet peeve: "I want to thank you so much." I blame Terry Gross on NPR's Fresh Air for this. Now, every clerk says "thanks so much," and if you say "thank you" instead of "thanks so much," that's just perfunctory and doesn't show the proper enthusiasm. Arrgh! BTW, if you want to do something, then do it, don't say you want to do it. I guess the Gross Thank You is short for "I'd like to take this opportunity to extend my warmest thanks to you for agreeing to appear on my program and being such an entertaining and cooperative interviewee."

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