I still read the Tribune. It is difficult to find news in it. There are only three or four stories that I consider national or international news and about three or four single-paragraph stories. I used to make fun of people who chose their paper based on the sports section. I now understand them completely.

It used to be that newspapers were necessary to understand the news. Nowadays, a reliance on newspapers is a guarantee of ignorance.

What is happening to newspapers now is the same thing that happened to local news twenty years ago and national news ten years ago. How did that work out for you, newcasters?

Oops--by local and national news, I mean TV coverage.

I missed the trailer for today's changes, so imagine my little "WTF?" this morning when I unwrapped the paper.

It can't be long now until they turn it into the USA Today, LA Edition.

At which point, all of my news and opinion will come from the internets.

Well, I thought the lead story in the LA Times sports section about "da Bears" was very interesting.

Plus great coverage of Hawthorne Race Track in Cicero.

I suspect these changes (to the front page anyway) are less about aiding navigation than they are about selling papers on a newsstand. Bigger headlines and pictures above the fold make the paper stand out in a crowded visual environment.

One thing that's interesting is that while papers are busy reducing the visual density of news on their front pages, cable TV has been doing the opposite. Rather than have a single talking head fullscreen reading a story, these days you get the newsreader ensconced in a corner with a perpetual crawl on the bottom and flashing sidebars and overlays to blast you with mostly unrelated information at all times.

For a tutorial on what a newspaper front page should look like, I offer HuffPo. Lots of ledes, all referencing complete stories inside.

You think the Times/Trib are bad, look at any tabloid paper (not available in Los Angeles as far as I've seen). 4 stories on page 1? Forget that, how about one headline. Not one headline story, just one headline.

Oh my God, this sounds like the standard Republican defence of American policies ("we're still better than Stalin and Hitler"). We're all going to hell.

The KC Star did a similar retooling recently. I was underwhelmed.

Kev, nothing wrong w/being a fossil. Here in Dallas, the stupidest change was about 2 years ago.

On the back page of Metro (B sec) they put a pic of the front page of each section.

Well, unless you turn to that page first thing in the whole paper, you've already seen P1 of A, B and, immediately next to the page page of B, the P1 of C. Duh.

Don:

Most New Times-brand tabloids are pretty good, and usually a lot better at times on local news coverage that the seven-day daily in town.

Who are these changes supposed to attract, exactly? I never get that.

It seems to me that certain sorts of people read a newspaper, and nothing you can do to that newspaper is going to attract the people who don't read. What am I missing?

Especially since these things are supposedly tremendously profitable already.

The REAL problem with newspapers is that they're all organs of the Democrat party (excluding a few centrist publications like Wash Times, WSJ, NY Post, and a couple others). Compared to that, listening to moronic consultants is a minor sin.

If you believe in a wider conspiracy, the purpose of all this not to attract people to news, but to direct them to non-news.

Then it will be easier for the people to believe that Saddam was responsible for 9/11 and all that.

centrist publications like Wash Times, WSJ, NY Post

Now Hawk is just phoning it in. Wash Times centrist? The reverenc Moon will be wanting his money back if that is the case.

The WSJ reports honestly on the news pages because businessmen rely on facts. They make up for this with a batshit-crazy editorial page.

As to the NY Post? I'm just nonplussed that that rag could even be mentioned in the same post as the WSJ as a source of serious news.

And what's with the multiple fonts for the headlines? At least the ChicagoTrib seems consistent.

I picked up the Times this morning and promptly said, "What is this ugly sh*t?"

Yet another great (O.K. maybe not great, let's say pretty good) newspaper spirals towards mediocrity. I already turn from the front page to page four, skipping the uselessness of pages 2 and 3. I foresee a time in the near future when I don't bother with the front page either, knowing the real news (if it exists at all) is buried deep inside.

What ever happened to that David Geffen/Richard Riordan scheme to buy the Times? They certainly couldn't run it as poorly as the Tribune does.

For some perspective, as an LA TIMES subscriber: I think the way forward for headlines at the paper was actually illuminated by the *Black Dahlia* advertising insert for the film the LAT included with a Sunday paper a few weeks ago (not quite the same effect, but you get some sense of the impact at this link http://webapp1.latimes.com/theblackdahlia/).

So I think they should go retro! In the 40's apparently the LAT had screaming 2 IN high two-word solid black headlines about a sordid sex murder. (of course, they actually had competition from other papers back then . . .). Yeah, the press has really degenerated since then . . .

OTOH, I used to live in Chicago, and I loved everything about it EXCEPT the Tribune. I truly hope the LAT doesn't get dragged to their level, since it is (even now) a far superior paper in so many ways . . .

What a weak effort from today's American Hawk. I was hoping that the first parody-troll/chain-yanking post would be somewhat entertaining, but that was just lame.

Oh well, back to the pure excitement of the 1-4 Packers and the 1-5 Dolphins on Fox.

Dwight... don't forget AZ at Oakland later!

Craigie: You're right.. there's little newspapers can do, IMO. The decline was there well before the Internet, although that has hit metro dailies harder than others.

Hawk almost makes you pine for an Al.

If you want a real newspaper, despite the stupid libel laws, look to the UK.

OTOH, a lot of German papers go even snazzier w/the design than American ones.

What we need is something like the Guardian: A progressive newspaper established as a nonprofit foundation that can still have an appropriate nonprofit status to write opinion.

Biggest error on LAT front? Mixing serif and sans-serif fonts. That's a pretty standard-level no-no.

OTOH, a lot of German papers go even snazzier w/the design than American ones.

Maybe, but I thought Kevin was talking about serious newspapers. Take a look at the frontpage of the daily German newspaper "Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung" (FAZ).
FAZ Monday edition

On the right with italic headings, two editorials. In the middle, three top stories continued on following pages. Down below four "smaller" stories also continued. On the left information about some top stories about topics other than politics (sports, economics etc.) on pages inside the newspaper.
Oh, and by the way, the first part of the newspaper (normally 10-12 pages consists entirely of domestic and foreign policy topics.

As a newspaper copy editor, I agree with Gadfly. Plus, I don't like all-caps heads, unless the Times is trying to appeal to people who miss the old Hearst papers in L.A. (and I'm talking about the days when the Lord of San Simeon was alive, not the waning days of the Herald-Examiner).

Other than that, I don't see anything inherently wrong with the design. Is there a law that says an "elite" paper has to have "Caps-and-Lower-Case" headlines? Or since the New York Times and Washington Post do, it's de rigueur, just as every college must follow Harvard, Yale and Princeton's lead?

About a year ago, the Baltimore Sun, another Tribune product, drastically and similarly changed its look -- for the better, as far as I'm concerned.

Don't get me wrong...all things being equal, I wish the Times wasn't run by the Trib people, and believe that editorially, it has declined (just as the Philadelphia Inquirer has after its "golden" Gene Roberts era of the eighties). But a paper's design and its content are two entirely different entities.

I think the web re-design of the New York Times looks fantastic.

I am glad that the op/ed is moving to the back of the front section and I do hope that next Sunday's Calendar change means that it will again be a one section tabloid. However, the new front page (I was going to say home page, oh dear) is an abomination. Oh, and the ad inside the front section from the new pubished offered nothing.

Here's what to do to bring back the Times:

1. Rehire Paul Conrad
2. Rehire Bill Boyarsky
3. Make Mary McNamara a thrice weekly columnist like Steve Lopez
4. Bring back a focus on actual news and analysis
5. As Kinsey noted, completely revise the latimes.com -- it is an embarassment.

Bravo, Kevin.

The L.A. Times blows.

Not enough coverage of Halloween night rumbles between ballbat-wielding minorities that exist only in my mind.

Sincerely,

A hack

THe problem appears to be that they didn't chose a very good consultant. These changes are about ten years old and not even particularly well executed (btw, that "picture bar" is called a skybox). There are some fantastically well designed newspapers in this country -- The Hartford Currant being the best of the traditionalists, the Baltimore Sun and the paper in Norfolk, being the best of the contemporary papers.

But I will say that time after time after people (mostly those under 40) say that newspapers are hard to navigate. I grew up reading newspapers, and so can navigate them pretty well (although, it bugs me when things move around from day to day). Most people from generation, smart people even, have had trouble finding their way around a newspaper. It's odd to me, but them's the facts as we know it.

Perhaps our host could make a nifty graphic from the raw data here showing the LAT's circulation vs population. Despite SoCal's pop going up 50%, their circ has dropped. (Similar NYT chart here).

One of the problems the LAT has in the blogosphere is that there's very little cost incurred by those - including me - who point out all the ways that their reporters lie and mislead.

But, the b-sphere isn't L.A. If they want to sell papers here, they're going to have to match the population: over half the workers in L.A. are barely literate.

My solution: pass out free copies of the new "Soup Can Literacy Level/Big Pictures/Prizes!" edition of the LAT to each LAUSD "graduate".

---
If anyone has any tough, detailed, completely factual questions for politicians I'm trying to match those questions with citizen journos who'll go out and try to get them answered.

When I opened my TIMES this morning and saw that "bolder blacker headline," I immediately thought of the ad that ran for years in the back pages of cheap magazines: "Woman nearly itches to death!"
. . . jim strain in san diego.

Yeah, I had the same reaction today when I picked up the paper. Ugh. Less info. More fluff. And a strong visceral sense that I'd need to reset the trust-o-meter to zero until I'd had time to evaluate whether the changes in outward appearance were matched by changes in editorial integrity.

One thing I also noticed in the inside house ad touting the changes, was a little "meet the people behind the Times" section, in which a couple of the profiled editors had their email addresses listed as 'firstname.lastname@latimes.com', in an apparent case of 'real address TK' substitution failure. So I guess I can add that to the list of reasons to be suspicious that the newfound interest in repackaging things in a more colorful fashion goes hand in hand with a de-emphasis of old-school editorial excellence, of the sort that would previously have (hopefully) caught such a blatant error.

Who needs proofreaders, anyway?

It was a double whammy when my sunday NYT didn't come (and the buggers wouldn't replace it, just give me a credit) and then the LA Times announced a new era of fluff.

It would be better if Geffen et al managed to buy the paper and make it more responsive to those of us who want a serious paper in LA, but apparantly the Tribune doesn't want want to sell such a money-maker. Friends of mine at the paper say the Tribune-installed management is screwing everything up by promoting younger transplants from Chicago over the vets who really know how to run the paper.

Maybe Geffen could buy the LA Daily News instead and give the Times a run for its money?

You missed change (d): banner ad across the bottom of the front page of the calendar section.

Well, it was refreshing to read the headline in the Tribune shown above which states "2 GOP Bastions Under Siege"

If only there many, many more.

For some reason, the media thinks they have to address the lowest common denominator in their quest to regain/retain readers. This means enticing pictures, titillating, cute headlines, and shorter less intellectually stimulating writing. In reality, what they are doing is shrinking the paper in an attempt to control material costs, and reducing features and staffing in an attempt to cut payroll expenses. In my eyes, I'm more interesting in quality than junk.

about selling papers on a newsstand.... jimBOB on October 22, 2006 at 1:18 PM

lauded the Soviet Union and the way it taught him how to be a good American. .... mhr at 3:07 PM

I recently retired from a paper now descending briskly into faceless second-tierdom. Successive design changes played an integral role in its decline.

Designers are now intent on making newspaper fronts more eye-catching. To do that, they are reversing a trend from the '90s of making fronts look "cleaner," often with lots of white space between design elements (pictures, headline, text, etc.). The spaces are now filled with "reader drivers," typically shaded boxes with blurbs to stories inside. This produces a look like a Kandinsky abstract with words superimposed.

Blurbs, data/factoid graphics, story labels and other design elements proliferate at the expense of prose -- although not necessarily of information. A well-written and well-designed news graphic can convey some information, such as statistics, that would be mind-numbing in the body of a story. A graphic also can illustrate a trend more forcefully than a written observation.

These "infographics," as they're known in the trade, are too large relative to their content in most newspapers. (The most informative infographics I see regularly, those in The Economist, are quite compact. Writers, editors and designers are effectively forced to distill the subject to its quantitative essentials. You don't see evidence of that discipline and coordination in American papers' graphics.)

The most obvious change in this LAT is a four-story front. Thirty years ago, 10 or 12 would've been normal in this paper.

The reproduction is too small to read some headlines, let alone stories, but it appears two are features, one timely, the other can't tell. That's not unusual for a Sunday edition. Watch for the balance of news/news feature or analysis/feature stories Tuesday-Saturday to see if front-page content really is softening.

The most striking thing about this particular front page is its color coordination. On first glance, you get the sense you're looking at swatches for decorating a sun room. (How long will it be before photographers are assigned to "bring me something in chartreuse?")

Concerns about content are justified. Even more ominous than redesigns such as this is the move most papers will make this year to narrower pages. That, plus fewer pages due to declining ad revenues, assures a reduction in content.

If you have a good international newsstand, thumb through the German "Die Zeit" sometime. It's a weekly, so they have more time to really get it right, but it sets a very high standard of newspaper layout. The photos and graphics in it have also become more pronounced in recent years, but everything generally remains in a harmonious, visual balance. I also really like how they use the entire back page of the first section for a detailed listing of the edition's contents.

I'm certainly no newspaper connoiseur, but it's probably the most beautiful, readable design of a newspaper I've ever seen. (Its contents don't suck either.)

Consider yourself lucky Kevin. The recent redesign of the Baltimore Sun was an absolute abortion.

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What a coincidence...right when they lay off yet more reporters they redesign the paper to hold fewer stories.

Vincent: I'm a do-it-all weekly editor; I use initial caps/small caps for subheads.

Opened this morning's LA Times and was horrified about how absolutely trashy is had suddenly become. No dignity at all. UGH!

What a horsey design.

I still mourn for the days when the ink came off on your fingers. Now that's being a fossil.

The Detroit Free Press is another newspaper that's going down the toilet, in pretty much the ame way as the LATimes. They's switched to narrower paper, pg 2 is a quide to the rest of the paper, pg 3 has switched from being a continuatin of the front page to advertising. The number of stories on the front page has dropped to 2-4 and much of the news content feels more and more like canned features rather than current reporting. Stranger is that its added a second sports section and has taken to printing the likes of Jonah Goldberh and Michael Goodwin. A week back it's headline -- it's top strory of the day -- was that no one had clinched the National League Pennant. This isn't a newspaper -- this is a bird cage liner.

beb, the Free Press is now run by Gannett, which used to own the Detroit News, and as someone who spent 2 1/2 years at a Gannett paper, I'm sure they are trying to standardize the product to Gannett style (which may result in improvements for small dailies, but downgrades for its larger ones). Since the News is still around, has it changed in any way?

By the way, Kurt Andersen has a piece on the LAT in this week's New York mag. His smug, Manhattan-centric angle: don't try to be a national paper like the NYT, but be local to the nth degree.

http://nymag.com/news/imperialcity/23173/index.html

The LA Times graphic designer Joseph Hutchinson is INCOMPETENT and a yahoo. This redesign is tacky, tacky, tacky. And headlines, in the main section no less, where most of the words aren't even capitalized? That's the very essence of second-rate.

Get rid of Hutchinson!!!

"The REAL problem with newspapers is that they're all organs of the Democrat party (excluding a few centrist publications like Wash Times, WSJ, NY Post, and a couple others). Compared to that, listening to moronic consultants is a minor sin."

American Hawk lowers the rhetoric to the standard righ-wing ignorance. "All newspapers?" It's all too clear that you haven't actually read very many papers, much looked at them.

The Chi Trib is, and ALWAYS, has been an "organ" of the Republican Party. The Hartford Courant is quite conservative. Most of the newspapers in this country are more conservative than even the Tribune, which is centrist. The paper I work for in suburban Los Angeles has done a number of stories on the sleazy land deals of a local congressman. He got endorsed for re-election anyway, I guess because he's Republican. The governator got the nod also, despite the fact the he got in bed with special interests faster than you can say "Gray Davis." The papers you mention are NOT centrist, they are conservative or right-wing if you prefer.

Last, but not least, the Times endorsed the Republican incumbent for governor of California. I'm not sure that's based on political leanings so much as endorsing the local movie star over the Northern California pol.

The new LA Times front page is hideous, but I do like that they finally moved the editorial and op-ed pages from the back of the second section to the back of the first section. That's a step in the direction of being a big-boy newspaper. Now, if Andres Martinez could occasionally support the interests of paycheck-to-paycheck working people, instead of fronting for the corporate investor class, the Times really might start to accomplish things.

Couple of things . . .

1) The redesign was done in-house. Joe Hutchinson, their creative director, led it, not a consultant.

2) There was no mandate from corporate. This was the end of a process started by their editors.

And to "Bob" who thinks the Trib is a house organ of the Republican Party . . . how would you explain the endorsement of Democrats in the 6th and 8th Congressional races?

The LA Times graphic designer Joseph Hutchinson is INCOMPETENT and a yahoo. This redesign is tacky, tacky, tacky. And headlines, in the main section no less, where most of the words aren't even capitalized? That's the very essence of second-rate.

Janet, many excellent newspapers use downstyle headlines. Sorry if it appears "tacky" to you.

One last thing, particularly those who are heaping derision upon Hutchinson . . . what part of the Times newsroom leadership do you think he bypassed to put this redesign into the paper?

This was done with the full endorsement of Dean Baquet and other editors.

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