LBJ: I know we'll never get away with calling the guy a pig f--ker. But let's make the son of a bitch deny it.

For some reason, though, they sure do try.

Democrats are only half of the purchasing market, and, by reputation, not even the rich half.

It's clear that ABC news wants to be Fox: did anyone tell Halperin and his buddies that the popularity of conservatism is crashing?

Speaking of which, Halperin's appearance on O'Reilly last night was astounding; people need to watch it if they want to understand what's wrong with this country.

Both parties are not equally responsible. The democrats are responsible for poisoning our public life, and only the liberal bias of the MSM prevents them from saying so.

if their bosses didn't like it, they wouldn't do it.

ergo....

Not only that, but this lets them show the ads that are so awful.

sigh

Act one of a Democratic House should be to shred the copyrights Disney keeps bribing the Congress to extend. Let the bosses bitch to the Note.
Don't be shy, about it either, make sure they know that's what's in store EVERY DAY until they stop this crap.

"did anyone tell Halperin and his buddies that the popularity of conservatism is crashing?"

Mark Halperin knows full well. Remember his memo from the 2004 election? Let's go back to Kevin's archives...

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2004_10/004886.php

"We have a responsibility to hold both sides accountable to the public interest, but that doesn't mean we reflexively and artificially hold both sides "equally" accountable when the facts don't warrant that."

It sickens me whenever I hear this, 'cause then I'll hear people say 'Oh, but Democrats are just as bad!' as though it were true.

And ask them why they say that? Well, news like this that pretends it's true... And then they usually whine that I'm partisan and attacking them for asking them why they think Democrats are 'just as bad'...

*sigh*

did anyone tell Halperin and his buddies that the popularity of conservatism is crashing?

You got that wrong. It's the popularity of current Republican practices that is crashing. As opinion polls show the surge of support for Democrats is not an embrace of liberal principles it's only a way to punish the Republicans.

TangoMan, one longs for a list of issues on which the polling data shows that the "conservative" position (really, of course, the right-wing position) is popular.

Oh, they embrace Liberal principles.

It's just the actions and Liberals themselves they won't embrace, 'cause they're told - by news shows like these - that they're just as bad.

When it's not true. :P

Well, I for one think that it was dispicable for the RNC to allow an ad clearly showing my opponent gang banging the Vienna Boy's Choir.

I, today, have personally called Ken Mehlman and told him to please stop airing the ad which follows my esteemed opponent taking that stolen money from Federal Grants into the brothels of Thailand while wearing that "My man Osama Rocks" t-shirt.

Ah, for the days of only "Sleep Country, USA" ads.

How did Lee Atwater get left off that list, Kevin?

See a tongue-in-cheek visual that gives Mr. Mehlman a dose of his own "Innuendo" medicine...here:

www.thoughttheater.com

Kevin, the obvious point you are missing is that regardless of the facts, if you don't play the "they're all equal" game then you are going to get pigeonholed as a liberal no matter what, and that's currently very bad for your career (lots of money in being a conservative journalist/pundit, not so much a liberal one).

plunge has it right. Corporate media values "balance" higher than accuracy; getting the story right is hard work, but producers never get into trouble if they turn in a "both sides are equally culpable" story.

Well, if the Republicans would just stop lying, cheating, stealing, hatemongering, and warmongering, then they'd be popular again.

I'm down here in Tennessee and the constant playing of Corker's racist "white girl hot for black man" ad is sickening. And now I have heard the "jungle bunny drum beat" radio ad playing in Chattanooga and perhaps elsewhere. Why do they need to run this in Corker's home town? The republicans must be scared shitless. Lose the senate and end up in the Hague.

Where are the ads the republicans are complaining about as being similarly out of bounds? There are not any. Should there be? Should the Rovian republicans be attacked on their self identified point of strength, Racism?

What do you say, Colin? Want to stand up now?

This stuff has me giggling from the grave.

Kevin,

Every time you post a message like this, you need to provide an email address (or several) where motivated readers can write to to protest the situation.

Otherwise what's the point?

David

But on "Sixty Minutes" Lesley Stahl said Nancy Pelosi was responsible for the breakdown of civility in Washington.

Cheney has confirmed that detainees were water-boarded:

http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/15847918.htm

He doesn't consider it torture. I wonder if the sick, demented sack of shit would consider it torture if terrorists waterboard captured US soldiers.

Act one of a Democratic House should be to shred the copyrights Disney keeps bribing the Congress to extend.

if Americans didn't rely on the media, who directly benefits from this crap, to tell them about it, they'd be furious. sadly...

If Democrats so much as disagree with our beloved and God-sanctioned President during wartime, then they are guilty of the most hideous, vile, poisonous atrocities that mankind has ever witnessed or even dreamed of.

"Cheney has confirmed that detainees were water-boarded"

Are you saying that torture is a breach of civility?

It has to be deliberate--just clicked past Scarborough on MSNBC and the discussion was about Michael Fox and Limbaugh's dastardly behavior [my editorial description]. Buchanan was saying he didn't know if Fox had gone off his meds or what, yada, yada. It was all so unknowable! Could Limbaugh have a genuine reason to criticize Fox? Was Fox misleading the public? Oh, who can know???

No one piped up to say, well, the only way Fox could move much at all with his increasingly worsening condition is to be on his meds; off them, his body barely moves.

This is not rocket science; Parkinson's is a well documented disease. What Fox is experiencing is easily knowable through research or, heaven forfend, by having an expert in the disease on the frickin' show! Or, like ask Michael Fox, huh?

But, of course, if the expert speaks about facts, science, reality--then what would the bloviators have to conjecture and natter on about? They would have to address Limbaugh's actual behavior, based on factually knowing that his criticism was based on absolute crap. They might even--oh, the pain of it!--discuss stem cell research.

News as reality show. Public affairs as infotainment. Sheesh.

The dumbing down of our social and political discourse. No wonder America could elect the Chimp.

So, yeah, ABC did this deliberately. And Halperin told them need to be illiberal so that the Right Wingers will make nice to Old Media liek ABC News. {Won't happen, Mark.)

Cheney has confirmed that detainees were water-boarded:

Yes, I'm a bit puzzled by the flow of limited modified hangouts emanating from the WH in recent days.

I suppose they have tried every possible lie they can think of, without any positive effect on the polls, and so have finally decided to tell a handful of truths in a last ditch effort to look serious and macho and energize their base. Still, Cheney admitting to war crimes seems a bizarre route to take.

But no one who's followed politics for the past decade or two can pretend not to know how we got where we are today. For some reason, though, they sure do try.

There's your problem. Start a little earlier than the 90s, and take a look at politics back when "machine" meant Democratic, and there were no alternatives to the liberal media.

A "balanced" report would be along the following lines:

Vicious Republican attack ads. Do they cross the line? Or are they just part of America's tradition of rough-and-tumble democracy?

That would be a fair question and a fair way to insert the sense that reporters are being impartial towards the phenomenon. The current approach - pretending that Republican race-baiting, lying, and gay-bashing is the equivalent of Democrats blaming the President for carrying out failed policies - is crap, and it's destroying American democracy.

He admitted it on a right-wing radio show, where the host and listeners were all getting hard-ons talking about what they'd like to do to them Ay-rabs. It must have been like the Ned Beatty scene in Deliverance.

Last night there was a long report on cnn about, er, the one lone Republican cowboy who was chairman of the ethics committee who singlehandedly brought down Tom Delay and how the few crooked Republicans were essentially the equivalent of Dan Rostenkowski, presented as a pleasant guy who learned his lesson, just the sort of few bad apples you would expect.

Start a little earlier than the 90s, and take a look at politics back when "machine" meant Democratic, and there were no alternatives to the liberal media.

Yeah, take for example that paragon of machine Dems, Chicago, where the leading newspaper, the /Chicago Tribune/, has only endorsed Republicans for Pres since the late 1800s...

Damn! Damn that liberal media!

This same approach was taken today on the 'liberal bastion' of All Things Considered on NPR. The story was about the arrival of the distorted negative ads.

After going into the anti-Ford ads, they drew the parallel to the Michael J. Fox ads. No mention that one might be total fiction and the other might possibly discuss policy positions of a candidate.

Nooo, to do that would be unbalanced.

Both parties are not equally responsible. The democrats are responsible for poisoning our public life, and only the liberal bias of the MSM prevents them from saying so.

For the first time in ages I check the comments, and Al's still stupid?

NPR = Nice Polite Republicans

Sure, neither party is simon pure, but Tapper and McCown know perfectly well that the nauseating and polarized nature of modern American politics is almost entirely a Republican invention.

Most. Idiotic. And. Hyperbolic. Kevin. Drum. Sentence. Ever.

Most. Idiotic. And. Hyperbolic. Kevin. Drum. Sentence. Ever.

Yeah, I forgot how Dukakis ran all those Willie Horton ads.

And Republicans will continue to work this way until their methods fail. As long as the idiotic, morons that vote in this country reward such behavior - it will continue. But yes, I do love the bias, the presumption without evidence that surely the Democrats will lower the discourse and drop into the scum alongside the wallowing Republicans. Surely.

"Nooo, to do that would be so Candy Crowley like"

And funding is Soooo important when O'Arrogantone keeps attacking.

Hmmm, Aaron Brown is gone - Oldermann is still hanging on - Where the hell is this "liberal or even moderate" media?

It sure the hell is not CNN - Candy so wants to Camp David to become fat farm where she can hang with Shrub and Laura.

99,

I thought it was kind of cute.

The GOP equivalent of the Michael J. Fox ad would be an ad in which a white person who actually HAD lost a job opportunity because of incentives for minority hiring appeared and simply described what had happened to him and why it was therefore important to vote for the GOP candidate.

Such an ad would be so much more civilized and polite than any ad the GOP has run in the past 18 years that it would be laughed out of the room at any gathering of Republican campaign strategists.

most people cannot understand this

Bush: We Will Consider All Proposals to Help Iraq

American campaigns have always had a certain nasty quality, but the especially corrosive nature of modern GOP politics began at least with Nixon, especially his senate campaign against Helen Gahagan Douglas.

Atwater gets extra credit, though. First for the Willie Horton that helped push 41 over the top against Dukakis. (Dukakis! Can anyone remember what peculiar circumstances led the Dems to nominate that cold fish?) And second, Atwater spent a lot of time with Dubya on the plane during the ’88 campaign, no doubt explaining 41s weaknesses as a stiff, preppy vs. his strengths based on his resume. It's safe to say that Dubya came away thinking that his good ol' boy impersonation could overcome his complete lack of resume, and not long after he puts together the gubernatorial campaign.

The GOP isn't going to change. The College Republicans churns out these miscreants like Ohio State produces NFL players. What's changed is that Dems now seem flustered and whine about it instead of giving as good as they get. The very first comment on this thread is about right. It's time to toughen up.

Blogspot is down across the board!!!

Time to get on the phone and make some calls!!!

Battle stations people!

If republicans are acting like monsters you must call them monsters.

For some reason, though, they sure do try. -KD

They are denialists. They take responsibility for nothing. Even when the guilty ball lands squarely in their court they cry 'clinton' or 'liberal media' [Al=]
Like DARVOs

...an ad in which a white person who actually HAD lost a job opportunity because of incentives for minority hiring....: brooksfoe at 10:24 PM

That would have been one of the Jessie Helm ads , ja?

Many of those who support the Democratic Party and who have links to various candidates would probably agree with good ol' Kevin.

Of course, those who've suffered despicable ad hominems at the hands of those Dem-linked people such as Katherine Harris, Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, et al might disagree.

And, of course, there are the smears by the Dems that lie and mislead about Republican candidates who oppose illegal immigration. One wonders why the Democratic Party is so ardent in their continual attempts to smear those who are trying to reduce illegal activity.

Hey, look, a gay Congressman!

From Father Coughlin in the 1940s, through Joseph McCarthy in the 1950's, to Spiro Agnew in the 1960s, to Ronald Reagan (his radio program, the antecedent of Limbaugh) in the 1970s to Atwater in the 1980s to Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Hannity and the pantheon of right-wing hate-mongers, there is a clear trail of slime down through the latter half of the 20th Century to today's GOP.

Don't let anybody kid you, these slime merchants are singularly on the right side of the aisle. If the righties try to cite Michael Moore, he is a big teddy bear compared to Richard Mellon-Scaife, a psychotic, alcoholic pervert who has bankrolled more slime slinging and perversion of American politics than perhaps any man in history. Scaife gives lie to the concept of "one man, one vote". The sick bastard.

George Bush strangely intrigued by a doorknob,

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/8264/bushanddoorknobnp8.jpg

What can he be thinking?

(Do we remember the episode where he couldn't make a door work in China? Is there always somebody to work it for him?)

The "will likely unleash" really gives it away. They're not talking about anything the Democrats have actually done, they're speculating about what the Democrats MIGHT do, all to provide balance to what the Republicans have ALREADY done. That's just shoddy journalism.

If they want to write a follow-up after Dems actually run some sleazy ads, that's fine, but at least wait until they do! Wishing in print that Dems will be sleazier so their stories don't look one-sided...that's really what political journalism has come to in this country, isn't it?

Don't you just love how TLB just proves Kevin's point? That he presents exactly zero evidence for his assertions? Hilarious.

If you descend to the individual candidate level, particularly House candidates, it would not surprise me at all to find various examples of questionable, even repugnant, advertisements from Democratic candidates. At the national party level, in this election, anyway, Bush and the various Republican election committees are pretty clearly more buried in slime than their Democratic counterparts. Not too surprising, since they are desperate.

I seem to recall hearing about an over-the-top advertisement in a Congressional race where the Democratic candidate was linking her opponent to Foley in a, to put it charitably, questionable way. I don't remember the details, though.

Katherine Harris, Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin..

are all shrieking agend-hawking harpies who have reaped exactly what they have sown. Paredor with every last one of them. I'll hand the firing squad the weapons.

It's the kind of knee-jerk false equivalence that makes the old media not worth reading.

I have no idea the status of my upstairs neighbors, but I also don't care. I'm just glad they live in my building and not TLB.

Who let that asshole in here, anyway? We weren't at a troll deficit, you know.

Can anyone point to evidence of George Bush's ability to actually work a door, and, can this relate to his 'no exit' Iraq policy?

(Or is it that, given their famous interest in the McKinley era, Cheney sold him on a privatised occupation by describing it as the Open Door Policy and now every door he sees is closed like some nemesis, just tempting him?)

So Kevin,

So what did Jake Tapper say when you called him and asked him why he wrote his article that way?

PICK UP THE PHONE KEVIN!

Don't dream it, be it.

Hey, look, a gay Congressman!
Posted by: TLB on October 25, 2006 at 10:41 PM | PERMALINK

Yawn.

No, wait, there IS something there. . . . hey, look! a coverup! and bribery!

Politics is a contact sport. All the right wing and the MSM have to offer is confirmation(as if the left needed any more) of their bias and dishonesty. They are the bullies in the schoolyard. Calling them bullies and expecting them to change is the height of naivete. The message has to be taken to the people. The MSM is bought & paid for. Even if the MSM rolls over in response to a tsunami of public outrage, it means next to nothing. The fix is in until at least the fairness doctrine is reinstitued and the campaign process is revamped. If it takes constitutional amendments, so be it.

To the plutocracy, the American masses are only drones, consumers, dupes, and body bag fillers. Exceptions(e. g. Gates, Buffett) notwithstanding, the power eltes care more for their pets than they do for us. True democracy, fairness, human rights, living standards for the masses get at most lip service from the right. Gated communities, private police and military forces accountable to no one but their masters will be the norm in the future. The patriot acts will be used to crush domestic dissent.

Even if the dems win the election & in 08, unless significant changes are made, we are on the road to fascism. To think otherwise is to succumb to the myth of american exceptionalism, fatalism, or selfish lassitude.

. Sure, neither party is simon pure, but Tapper and McCown know perfectly well that the nauseating and polarized nature of modern American politics is almost entirely a Republican invention. From Lee Atwater to Rush Limbaugh to Newt Gingrich to Ken Starr to Tom DeLay to the Rove/Bush/Cheney machine, the Republican Party has pioneered a scorched-earth approach to politics that Democrats have never come close to matching. Their destruction of congressional traditions in the service of power has gone immensely farther than anything Democrats did when they were in power. Their deliberate and single-minded fealty to K Street lobbyists makes Democrats look like pikers

You got that right. Well said!

It's high time to bring back the Fairness Doctrine, which was deep-sixed by Reagan's administration. I'd like to see this become a priority of any new Democratic majority, in either house of Congress. It would go a long way towards eliminating the toxic state of today's broadcast media, with it's pronounced conservative, Republican bias.

Kevin Drum >"...no one who's followed politics for the past decade or two can pretend not to know how we got where we are today. For some reason, though, they sure do try."

Down that path lies "fame", "fortune" & "prestige" so why not travel it; ignore the smell of sulfur that surrounds it all

"...you cannot save your face and your ass at the same time..." - vachon@shadrach.net

"A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned to walk forward." -- Franklin D. Roosevelt, radio address, Oct. 26, 1939

Royko >"The "will likely unleash" really gives it away. They're not talking about anything the Democrats have actually done, they're speculating about what the Democrats MIGHT do..."

Projection pure & simple

"We`ve done it so "they" must be going to do it real soon now so "they" can get even with us"

Psychopaths one and all

"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." - H. L. Mencken

Global Citizen >"A conservative is...Oct. 26, 1939"

Ohhhh, a keeper !

Thanks GC

"When women vote, Democrats win" - Democratic National Committee

Andrew Sullivan is on Charlie Rose denouncing the Neo-Cons and their splendid little Iraqi invasion.

You're welcome dC. I'll save some of the good ones for you.

And it's tavis Smiley that Sullivan is talking to. (Hey, all talkshow hosts sound alike.)

"We weren't at a troll deficit, you know."

LOL... Heavens no, not with our cadre. We're plumb full.

TLB is an odd one, though. I've never met anyone so utterly and monomaniacally consumed by a single issue -- in his case, immigration. I've never seen a post from him that did not mention the subject and his blog is basically nothing but. He's absolutely obsessed by his paranoid fears about immigration, to the point where he has pretty much lost all sense of proportion and perspective. His posts on the massive protests of a few months ago were absolutely hilarious, particularly in his "analysis," where he projected his own paranoia and fear onto the general population at large.

What is most interesting about TLB's post above is that his one and only actual example of some sort of despicable Democratic action is a link to a blog post that praises Katherine Harris for having a nice body. And the blog in question is a parody blog, which means that the post itself is a parody! And I'm supposed to be outraged by this? The mind boggles.

I've never met anyone so utterly and monomaniacally consumed by a single issue

I have. The Operation Crew that descended on Wichita in 1991 was afflicted with a similar case of tunnel vision.

Oops - I omited a word - The Operation Rescue Crew.

I've never met anyone so utterly and monomaniacally consumed by a single issue

You guys have got to be kidding. Have you checked out the zealots that inhabit the feminist blogosphere? If you want to see fevered monomaniacal blogging at its best that's the place to go.

On the other hand, you may come to realize that some people feel strongly enough about particular issues to want to devote time and energy to blogging about them.

You can't really fault the guy for being on the right side of the immigration issue while you're on the wrong side. The best thing you can do is to refute his analysis and I don't see anyone attempting to do that.

I haven't seen anything that even shares a zip-code with analysis. Projection, yes, but analysis? Not so much.

(And that was the timer. My teeth are white, so i'm going to bed now. Later.)

That's not just a parody site, that's my parody site. Obviously, finding Dems saying evil things about those I listed above is so easy that one would think no one would need to ask for examples. But, just for one example: Duncan Black. Or, here are 100+ results for "man coulter" "adam's apple".

As for my "monomania", I operate 20+ sites covering various topics.

I tend to concentrate on immigration because, unlike Kevin Drum or many of the commenters here, I'm very familiar with the issue and I realize how much trouble we're in. Instead of trying to smear me, perhaps you should ask why Kevin Drum is such a lightweight on the issue.

...an ad in which a white person who actually HAD lost a job opportunity because of incentives for minority hiring....: brooksfoe at 10:24 PM

That would have been one of the Jessie Helm ads , ja? - Mike

No, the Helms ads showed a white actor's hands, and announced a hypothetical case. If they had gone ahead and actually found a white person who had lost out on a job due to minority preferential hiring, and had him voice his own convictions on the issue, it would have been a reasonably fair ad. Wrong, but within the bounds of public discourse.

The reason they didn't go that route probably has something to do with the fact that white people who have lost out on jobs due to minority preferential hiring were and are vanishingly rare.

Instead of trying to smear me, perhaps you should ask why Kevin Drum is such a lightweight on the issue.

I love how wingnuts are able to state a position and refute it all in one sentence.

Maria Cantwell's got some half-way decent attack ads going in Washington State. I wholely approve, I just wish they were more powerful. She's got all the right facts, but there's no real narrative.

All she needs to do is tie McGavick's money-grubbing ways a little more strongly to the modus operandus of the Bush administration and she'd have a good story to go along with the criticism. Yes, McGavick had a huge golden parachute when he started running for office, and is now trying to protect it from taxes. But he's also running on a 'change in DC' platform; she needs to tie Bush around his neck like a dead albatross on that.

I-SORs --Ignorant Slobs on the Radio.

Give TLB a break - his daughter has shacked up with a Mexican and his wife is taking "tango" lessons from an Argentinian. I wonder if he will ever figure out why TLB, Jr. is so dark complected. Must be the black irish.....

As a North Carolinian, I am appalled by your omission of my man Jesse. Helms and the Congressional Club were real trailbazers in the art of negative campaigning. Indeed, there were perhaps the first to turn "liberal" into a pejorative. Do your research man!

You know, Kevin, that is their obligatory "LOOK, we're FAIR and BALANCED" comment. If they say something true and nasty about REPUGS they must find something not nice to say about DEMS...that's the GAME...and GAME it is...I'm sick of it...it's about our country, our democracy, perhaps our very souls! I know, LIGHTEN UP! Well, I'll see if I can after November 7th...meanwhile it's contribute, make calls, put up signs...and try to KEEP THE FAITH!!!

Dancer:

Good deal, Dancer.

That's all we can ask of each other.

God bless, and best of luck to you.

Bob

The next time the mainstream media start whining about the irresponsible and unbalanced blogs that are crowding their turf, remind them of this story. By introducing false balance--in this case, by retailing assumptions in the absence of facts (reporting on the future)--they took a perfectly good news story and wrecked it.

Read it to the end, adding (as they did) what they don't know to what they know, and you've missed the story, which is that the right (I believe we're talking about Republicans here) is fighting dirty. That's a heck of a story all by itself. Too bad they decided to add the junk. Sometimes more gives you less.

Let's start a list of all the Republicans who objected in public to the Arkansas Project. We can trot it out when nihilists try to condemn the entire Republican Party. (Let's be rigorous here. Actual verifiable quotes only.)

Democrats aren't necessarily running clean campaigns, though. As the races tighten in the next couple of weeks, the left will likely unleash its garbage as well.

Another classic piece of the GOP worldview: Democratic candidates = "the left". Leaving the actual left where? Beyond the pale, for the ABCs of this world.

Please, somebody tell Poppy I need Uncle Jimmie to bail me out of this little Iraq thing. Wait, I didn't really say that, it was Karl who told me to say that.

Wow. It was bad enough that journalism had been adhering to The New Equivalency, where they present both parties' views on an issue as if they were equally valid, even if the Republicans have totally made shit up.

Now we have The New New Equivalency, where the Republicans do something really sleazy and "journalists" feel obligated to add that Democrats WILL be doing it too, with no evidence to back it up and no historical reason to believe that this is the case.

I'm not sure where, exactly, we go from here.

The Democrats really do need to start playing hardball with these corporate media clowns. And I don't mean the Chris Matthews kind.

here are 100+ results for "man coulter" "adam's apple".

Who says these statements were ad hominem attacks from Democrats (besides you TLB)? Maybe they were just observant people with their eyes open stating the obvious.

"The GOP equivalent of the Michael J. Fox ad would be an ad in which a white person who actually HAD lost a job opportunity because of incentives for minority hiring appeared and simply described what had happened to him and why it was therefore important to vote for the GOP candidate."

You're looking too far afield here. The GOP equivalent of the Michael J. Fox ad is the one that Fox did for Arlen Specter in 2004 where he lauded Specter for his support of biomedical research.

An amazing line- The GOP's "destruction of congressional tradition in the service of power." That must have been written by someone who is completely ignorant of the fact that Democrats were the majority in the House of Representatives from 1954 to 1994. Democrats ran that institution for forty consecutive years- that's power.

mhr's post begs the question, is he/she/it stupid enough not to realize the Congressional Republicans have abandoned the tradition -- and duty! -- of Congressional oversight in favor of Executive power, or simply dihonest enough to pretend so?

I've been really surprised at some of the drivel coming out of Jake Tapper lately. He used to be good while he was at Salon and his book on Florida/2000 was excellent.

Could it all be Halperin pushing the conservative agenda at ABC News? Or is it the Disney suits who the championed the Path to 9/11?

Anyway, ABC seems to have decided to go over to the Dark Side with Fox News. Let's see how that works for them with the changing political climate. Screw Lost, I'm not watching ABC anymore.

A couple of years ago Clarence Thomas said in a speech that the problem with conservatives is they are too civil; they need to be more aggressive in going after liberals.

I believed that about as much as I believed that someone who said he had never thought about Roe vs. Wade was the most qualified person in the country to serve on the Supreme Court.

TangoMan wrote: "On the other hand, you may come to realize that some people feel strongly enough about particular issues to want to devote time and energy to blogging about them."

LOL.... Dear heart, I understand this desire all too well. There is a substantive difference between this and an overwhelming obsession.

"You can't really fault the guy for being on the right side of the immigration issue while you're on the wrong side. The best thing you can do is to refute his analysis and I don't see anyone attempting to do that."

ROFL.... Oh, my.... Since you have no idea what my position is on immigration, forgive me if I don't take too seriously the notion that I'm on the "wrong" sde. As for his "analysis," when he is on topic here, I've had no problem refuting his analysis and will happily do so again.

TLB wrote: "That's not just a parody site, that's my parody site."

LOL.... So you linked to a parody post on your own site, without bothering to identify it as your own site, and this was supposed to be an example of the evil things that Democrats say? Again, the mind boggles....

"Obviously, finding Dems saying evil things about those I listed above is so easy that one would think no one would need to ask for examples."

If it is, in fact, so easy, then why have you been unable to do so?

"But, just for one example: Duncan Black. Or, here are 100+ results for "man coulter" "adam's apple"."

LOL... Dear heart, we're talking about political advertisements about political candidates, not "something that someone said on a blog somewhere." Come back when you've got something real.

Ed at 11:18: Much as I love Charles Gibson, ABC is going off the deep end. Watch for their major advertisers for a week or two, then stop watching ABC programs and buying Disney videos, and write both ABC, Disney and the advertisers to explain that you've done so, and why.

Suspect ABC is pursuing this as a business model (who isn't seduced by Fox's "success"?) and they need to find out it's got some downsides sooner rather than later.

Kevin,

The inablity of Democrats to see their own sins is incredible. Politics has always been dirty and will always be dirty mostly because foolish people in both parties fall for dirty tricks.

For instance, I am not a member of the party which boasts Bob Mulholland - a truly great muckraker - as one of its major operatives. ( Those not in California, USA will not understand the reference, but I'm sure Kevin knows )

Your claim that Republican Lee Atwater et al. are the most egregious examples is naive. Stop it ok!

Kevin: From Lee Atwater to Rush Limbaugh to Newt Gingrich to Ken Starr to Tom DeLay to the Rove/Bush/Cheney machine, the Republican Party has pioneered a scorched-earth approach to politics that Democrats have never come close to matching.

John Hansen: The inablity of Democrats to see their own sins is incredible.

That's right, just look at the way they treated Nixon. Like he was a two-bit burglar or something. Oh, wait... he just masterminded two bit burglaries.

When the thugs were reborn they lost their knowledge(such as it was) of good and evil. They are in a state of grace similar to Adam & Eve prior to the applefest, hence they can do anything without compuction. Ever seen a thug eat an apple?

John Hansen wrote: "The inablity of Democrats to see their own sins is incredible."

Then it should be trivially easy for you to find examples of such sins in this election campaign, shouldn't it? We'll be right here waiting.

I might agree with you if we had invented the verb to Bork someone, if we said Dems wanted to pull blacks behind cars tied with chains if they had the temerity to oppose quotas, if we said Dems want to put arsnic in drinking water, if we said they wanted to gut social security....zzzzzz......

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