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November 15, 2006
By: Kevin Drum

BIPARTISANSHIP UPDATE....Let's see....Bolton was renominated last week, then Tomlinson on Tuesday, and today it's a bunch of judges so extreme that even Republicans have their doubts about them. George Bush sure is following up on last week's clarion call for humble bipartisanship, isn't he?

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I'm not coming back to the U.S. until you guys start playing nice together

Posted by: Buckminster on November 15, 2006 at 3:26 PM | PERMALINK

it was just a midterm election, not a brain transplant.

Posted by: supersaurus on November 15, 2006 at 3:27 PM | PERMALINK

a bunch of judges so extreme that even Republicans have their doubts about them.

Hey, K-Drum, the only "Republican" in the article who opposed the conservative judges was RINO Arlen Specter. He's not even a real Republican which is why liar and faker Michael J Fox endorsed him for the Senate. Real Republicans like Sam Brownback and Rick Santorum do support the conservative judges.

Posted by: Al on November 15, 2006 at 3:27 PM | PERMALINK

Does any of this thrashing and flailing come as a surprise? Has the man ever been anything other than a sore loser, and a gloating winner? I can only assume that he is doing his best to start the "Democrats are so obstructionist" meme as early as possible. Let's hope it backfires . . . in a just world, it sure would.

Posted by: Wendy on November 15, 2006 at 3:28 PM | PERMALINK

Poor Al.

Posted by: exasperated on November 15, 2006 at 3:29 PM | PERMALINK

That nasty Bolton - actually standing up for U.S. interests in the U.N.
We sure can't let that go on.

Posted by: Walter E. Wallis on November 15, 2006 at 3:31 PM | PERMALINK

So, Democrats are NOT obstructionists?

Posted by: Jeffery on November 15, 2006 at 3:32 PM | PERMALINK

the new bipartisanship is that bush does as usual and sees what the democrats can do to stop it.

Posted by: clb72 on November 15, 2006 at 3:32 PM | PERMALINK

Oh my God! Oh my God! It can't be! No!

You mean...the White House won't be reaching out to the Democrats with the open hand of bipartisanship?

But...but...George said...he said...

I am speechless.

Posted by: clueless on November 15, 2006 at 3:34 PM | PERMALINK

red meat for disenfranchised knuckle-draggers. See Al, above.

Posted by: benjoya on November 15, 2006 at 3:35 PM | PERMALINK

Shouldn't Republicans be threatening that there'll be consequences and repercussions in the next election if Democrats block Bush's judicial nominations?

Posted by: Chris on November 15, 2006 at 3:36 PM | PERMALINK

clb72:

You mean the old "bipartisanship" like with Ted Kennedy on "No Child Left Behind" or Joe Lieberman on the war in Iraq?

Posted by: Jeffery on November 15, 2006 at 3:37 PM | PERMALINK

Hey, Walter E Wallis, keep oiling that Garand - Shrub might still need you when Halliburton loses the latrine contract.

And how is the French Battery holding up these days and nights?

Posted by: thethirdPaul on November 15, 2006 at 3:39 PM | PERMALINK

Shrub is merely trying to turn 1600 in a big swing party - Lots of Bi-partisanship, coke and booze. The admission to the party is to vote for his neanderthals first.

Posted by: stupid git on November 15, 2006 at 3:42 PM | PERMALINK


Kevin, Kevin, Kevin,

"Big boys" always stamp their foot and scream at their mamas: MAKE ME.

And then they grow up to be bullies.

Posted by: kay on November 15, 2006 at 3:44 PM | PERMALINK

if "bi-partisanship" means partisanship on both sides, Bush is all for that.

Posted by: cleek on November 15, 2006 at 3:45 PM | PERMALINK

Bush "Bipartisan Math":

It's supposed to be 1/2 + 1/2 = 1

But for Bush it is:

-1/2 + 3/2 = 1

When he says "halfway" he means NEGATIVE halfway.

Posted by: Robert on November 15, 2006 at 3:48 PM | PERMALINK

For President Bush, bipartisanship is when the right and the extreme right agree.

Posted by: pj in jesusland on November 15, 2006 at 3:52 PM | PERMALINK

OK I give up. What is Bush trying to prove?

He will not be able to move any of his nominees in the lame duck session. They are all dead as doornails in January. It is way too early to start making political hay for 2008. He isn't running then anyway. Bush's approval rating is below sea level. A lot of people probably agree with the Democrats that we don't need anymore polarizing, political hack nominees from the Whitehouse that nominated Brownie.

What is the point with all these deadend appointments. Do they make Dick Cheney happy?

Maybe they give Jeffery something to blog about. Other than that they are a serious waste of time.

Posted by: Ron Byers on November 15, 2006 at 3:53 PM | PERMALINK

Or, is THIS bipartisanship:

Calling Pelosi's ethics bill "total crap" but passing it anyways because that's what Nancy wants?

http://www.rollcall.com/issues/1_1/breakingnews/16030-1.html

Posted by: Jeffery on November 15, 2006 at 3:53 PM | PERMALINK

Ron:

Reid has already stated that Gates should be confirmed ASAP. The rest are simply laying the groundwork for all the recess appointments coming up for the rest of Bush's term -- unless Reid and Nancy decide to never take another recess -- I think Wendy was spot on regarding the "obstructionist" label.

Posted by: Jeffery on November 15, 2006 at 3:57 PM | PERMALINK

Well, it's pretty clear that the strategy is to make the Democrats block some/all of these and then cast them as the ones who aren't being "bipartisan."

How this gets handled will be a good test of the new Democratic leadership.

Posted by: TW Andrews on November 15, 2006 at 3:57 PM | PERMALINK

Let Bush be Bush.

It's the Democrats' secret strategy for 2008.

Posted by: frankly0 on November 15, 2006 at 4:02 PM | PERMALINK

3:32pm and 3:37pm are fake "Jeffery".

Posted by: Jeffery on November 15, 2006 at 4:05 PM | PERMALINK

Agreed, TW Andrews.

Posted by: Jeffery on November 15, 2006 at 4:05 PM | PERMALINK

Charlie, they are all fake Jefferys

Posted by: Jeffery on November 15, 2006 at 4:06 PM | PERMALINK

The argument that Bush wants to label Democrats as being obstructionist assumes there is public support for the President's nominees.

As I recall Bush's approval rating is just above freezing. Republicans got their hats handed to them bigtime last week. The country is in no mood for hard right hacks. For Christs sake Santorium, Talent and Allen, all three hard right wingers (Talent just had a more pleasant personality than the others) were kicked out on their asses. Does that sound like the public is in the mood for more Alitos?

Posted by: Ron Byers on November 15, 2006 at 4:06 PM | PERMALINK

None of the "Jeffery's" are fakes where I am identifying which "Jeffery's" are fakes. Plus, this one.

Posted by: Jeffery on November 15, 2006 at 4:07 PM | PERMALINK

That nasty Bolton - actually standing up for U.S. interests in the U.N.

Since any US Ambassador would do so, such obviosuly isn't the problem with Bolton. And, I might add, Bolton's nominatin has failed each time due to opposition from Republicans, not just Democrats. Pathetic effort, Walter, as usual.

Posted by: Gregory on November 15, 2006 at 4:07 PM | PERMALINK

The young Uniter Decider" is really a piece of work ani't he?

Posted by: David Triche on November 15, 2006 at 4:08 PM | PERMALINK

if "bi-partisanship" means partisanship on both sides, Bush is all for that.

Now, cleek, let's not forget Bush's record as governor of Texas, where he worked with the Legislature to unite conservatives -- and ultra-conservatives.

Posted by: Gregory on November 15, 2006 at 4:09 PM | PERMALINK

OK I give up. What is Bush trying to prove?

He's not trying to prove anything. He just keeps trying to scratch that itch on his elbow like he always has -- he's just to stupid to realize that the elections removed his arm.

Posted by: Disputo on November 15, 2006 at 4:09 PM | PERMALINK

Gregory:

Didn't the RINO Lincoln Chafee lose? Just wait until the Democrats cause another 9/11 -- then we'll see which party Americans support again.

Posted by: Jeffery on November 15, 2006 at 4:12 PM | PERMALINK

Michael Wallace of Mississippi, rated unqualified for the appeals court by an American Bar Association panel, was renominated for the Fifth Circuit in New Orleans.

What's really reprehensible is that Bush has no more respect for the judicial system than he does for the office of President. He's not even interested in qualified judges, just ideologues. He's not interested in bringing the parties together, just obstructionism.

He's clearly trying to appease the yowling maw of his base, and in essence he's trolling the nomination process for the judiciary, throwing up crap just to real discussion.

Posted by: trex on November 15, 2006 at 4:15 PM | PERMALINK

The Jeffery paradox:

I am a fake Jeffery.

--Jeffery

Posted by: frankly0 on November 15, 2006 at 4:16 PM | PERMALINK

"throwing up crap just to squelch real discussion" is how that should have read.

Like that idiot known as Charlie/Jeffrey.

Posted by: trex on November 15, 2006 at 4:17 PM | PERMALINK

The ABA can suck my dick.

Posted by: Jeffery on November 15, 2006 at 4:18 PM | PERMALINK

So can you trex.

Posted by: Jeffery on November 15, 2006 at 4:19 PM | PERMALINK

Sorry, even the ABA has minimum standards, and yours is just too small and diseased.

Posted by: trex on November 15, 2006 at 4:20 PM | PERMALINK

Robert,

I think Shrub, as a strict constructionist uses 3/5s far more than 1/2.

He sorta has a three fifths eye for Democrats.

Posted by: thethirdPaul on November 15, 2006 at 4:21 PM | PERMALINK

Looking in the mirror naked again, trex?

Posted by: Jeffery on November 15, 2006 at 4:21 PM | PERMALINK

Three fifths eye - And that is after looking through the bottom of a fifth on the way to the podium. Perhaps, that is why there always seems to be about a fifth missing from Shrub when he speaks.

Posted by: stupid git on November 15, 2006 at 4:23 PM | PERMALINK

OK I give up. What is Bush trying to prove?

He's not trying to prove anything he's just being what he is.

Posted by: Klyde on November 15, 2006 at 4:24 PM | PERMALINK

When is drum going to start banning obstructionist trolls?

charlie/jeffery/et al has made the comments section nearly unreadable

Posted by: Klyde on November 15, 2006 at 4:27 PM | PERMALINK

How about "bipartisanship" like Kucinich calling for COngress to cut off funding of the Iraq war?

http://kucinich.us/

Posted by: Jeffery on November 15, 2006 at 4:28 PM | PERMALINK

Dust off the Articles of Impeachment that have already been drafted. If the slimy pile of sewage named Bush can backpedal, then so can the Democrats!

Posted by: The Conservative Deflator on November 15, 2006 at 4:29 PM | PERMALINK

There are only two explanations I can come up with:

1) He's decided he's got a short while left to be king (i.e., unchallenged by an opposition party) and he'll try to push through whatever lasting right goals he can (a poor tactical choice, since, as others have noted, he's in political pariah poll-territory, and Dems will suffer no punishment for stopping these things any way they can)

2) He knows he's going to have to slip out of Iraq via Baker/Hamilton, and he hopes to soften the wingnut screech-reaction by giving them one last dose of sugar before it happens.

Posted by: demtom on November 15, 2006 at 4:29 PM | PERMALINK

"et al" has been posting more than I have lately. Makes my job easier, that's for sure.

Posted by: Jeffery on November 15, 2006 at 4:30 PM | PERMALINK

Bush's big bitch slap to Dems is really a big bitch slap to a majority of American voters and democracy itself.

This is why Pelosi shouldn't have taken impeachment off the table. Lets hurry and make with the subpoenas, investigation should be the first order of the day. Dems better learn to play nasty too.

Posted by: Cheryl on November 15, 2006 at 4:31 PM | PERMALINK

This is actually my favorite show of "bipartisanship" so far today:

Carville Says Dems Should Dump Dean over Rumsfeldian Incompetence

By Scott Shepard

Democratic strategist James Carville says his party should dump Howard Dean as chairman of the Democratic Party because of incompetence.

Carville, during coffee and rolls with political reporters today, said Democrats could have picked up as many as 50 House seats, instead of the nearly 30 they have so far.

The reason they didnt, he said, is the Democratic National Committee did not spend some $6 million it could have put into so-called third tier House races against vulnerable Republicans.

Carville said the other Democratic campaign committees had borrowed to the hilt. He said he tried to meet with Dean to argue for additional spending for Democrats in the final days of the campaign, but Dean declined and gave no reason why.

...

Carville likened the Democratic takeover of Congress to the civil war battle at Gettysburg, which the Union army won but failed to pursue the Confederate army when it retreated.

We should have chased them down, Carville said. There was no immediate response from Dean or the DNC.

http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/washington/washington/entries/2006/11/15/carville_says_d.html

Posted by: Jeffery on November 15, 2006 at 4:33 PM | PERMALINK

Didn't the RINO Lincoln Chafee lose?

All kinds of Republicans lost, Charlie (too bad for an honorable man like Chaffee that Bush and Rove made his party synonymous with mendacity, incompetence and corruption), and not a single incumbent Democrat.

Posted by: Gregory on November 15, 2006 at 4:34 PM | PERMALINK

Here's a nice summary on the Republican concept of bipartisanship by Ted Rall:

Republicans get political existentialism. When they campaign for office, they promise to be uniters, not dividers. Once they win an election, however, talk of bipartisanship promptly sails out the window. They freeze out the Democrats, elected representatives and constituents alike. Rather than compromise to accommodate the millions who voted against them, Republicans play to their right-wing base: racists and Christianists. The GOP belligerently promotes the most extremist items on its legislative wish list by declaring their victory to be a broad manifesto for radical change and wholesale rejection of the other side. They nominate judges whose conservatism is far to the right of the average Republican. Sure, they want to unite the country--by forcing everyone to go along with what they want.

http://tinyurl.com/y4xwhz

Posted by: trex on November 15, 2006 at 4:34 PM | PERMALINK

"Hey, somebody re-play Gingrich's 1994 subpoena threats." he said as if encouraging some coeds to play Twister.

Posted by: Jeffrey Davis on November 15, 2006 at 4:35 PM | PERMALINK

Saying that "Democrats are obstructionist" is now the same as saying most most Americans are obstructionist, which really begs for impeachment.

Right now Republicans are the obstructionist.

Posted by: Cheryl on November 15, 2006 at 4:36 PM | PERMALINK

What could have been more Bi-partisan than this morning's scene of Mitch McConnell and Trent Lott standing together as a stonewall in their long grey coats with gold collars, Dixie playing and the US and Stars and Bars flags unfurled. The did have a Senate page dressed in the uniform of the Army of the Potomac.

Posted by: thethirdPaul on November 15, 2006 at 4:39 PM | PERMALINK

4:18pm, 4:19pm, and 4:21 are real "Jeffery".

Posted by: Jeffery on November 15, 2006 at 4:39 PM | PERMALINK

Wait, saying "most most Americans are obstructionist" is an impeachable offense? On what grounds -- grammar?

Posted by: Jeffery on November 15, 2006 at 4:40 PM | PERMALINK

red meat for disenfranchised knuckle-draggers. See Al, above.
Posted by: benjoya

Pretty much, but we really should update that meme since the Rethugs got their hats handed to them: warmed over devil-food sandwich for disenfranchised knuckle-draggers. Mmmm-mmm good.

Posted by: cyntax on November 15, 2006 at 4:42 PM | PERMALINK

Jeffery at 4:40pm is fake.

Posted by: Jeffery on November 15, 2006 at 4:42 PM | PERMALINK

If that's an impeachable offense, would this get someone the death penalty:

"Today-today-today I-I-I Consider Myself-self-self the Luckiest Man-man-man on the Face-face-face of This-this-this Earth-earth-earth".

Posted by: Jeffery on November 15, 2006 at 4:43 PM | PERMALINK

Judges are important.

Posted by: Fitz on November 15, 2006 at 4:44 PM | PERMALINK

Hello! I hate to say it, but I predicted this a month ago.

Posted by: Hesiod on November 15, 2006 at 4:44 PM | PERMALINK

Jeffery: The ABA can suck my dick.

The ABA are amateurs. Get the NBA to do it.

Posted by: anandine on November 15, 2006 at 4:46 PM | PERMALINK

Hey, K-Drum, the only "Republican" in the article who opposed the conservative judges was RINO Arlen Specter. He's not even a real Republican which is why liar and faker Michael J Fox endorsed him for the Senate. Real Republicans like Sam Brownback and Rick Santorum do support the conservative judges

Normally, that would be an excellent point. Except you are forgetting the tiny little fact that Senator Specter is the current and outgoing chairman of the Senate Judiciary Comittee.

If he don't like the Judges, the nominations ain't going nowhere.

Posted by: Hesiod on November 15, 2006 at 4:47 PM | PERMALINK

Judges are important

Posted by: Fitz on November 15, 2006 at 4:49 PM | PERMALINK

The NBA gets blowjobs (and all the white women they want), but doesn't give 'em. All the non-consensual, anal sex they can pay off too. Just ask Kobe Bryant.

But, I want to tell you something, anandine. Listen well. There is nothing sexier then a woman you have to salute in the morning. If you've never had a blowjob from a superior officer, you've missed the best in life.

Posted by: Jeffery on November 15, 2006 at 4:53 PM | PERMALINK

4:53pm is real Jeffery. Definitely.

Posted by: Jeffery on November 15, 2006 at 4:55 PM | PERMALINK

Does Jeffery like pie? Can he be convinced to like pie? I certainly do.

Posted by: Darrell on November 15, 2006 at 5:12 PM | PERMALINK

I like pie.

Posted by: Jeffery on November 15, 2006 at 5:17 PM | PERMALINK

So GeeDubya's nominating "a bunch of judges so extreme that even Republicans have their doubts about them."

Ha Ha!

Didn't GeeDubya learn from the ass-woopin' he got last week, or is he expecting Poppy to swoop in & change his diapers as he's had done for him all his life . . .

.

Posted by: KG on November 15, 2006 at 5:22 PM | PERMALINK

When will right wing lemmings learn that opposing their ideology is not obstructionism - it's good policy . . .

.

Posted by: KG on November 15, 2006 at 5:26 PM | PERMALINK

Memo to self: whenever there's next a fund-raising pitch for Washington Monthly, I should promise to subscribe if they put in place a simple registration system and have someone spend a little time pruning and banning trolls.

Posted by: Bruce Baugh on November 15, 2006 at 5:26 PM | PERMALINK

Charlie's new tactic is to flood the comments sections with multiple posts under the name Jeffery(instead of his press release spam) in order to drive up the number of useless posts.

Please do not refer/quote/ or pay attention to him and he'll leave. Or change his handle for the 325th time.

Posted by: Pale Rider on November 15, 2006 at 5:26 PM | PERMALINK

At what point was "bipartisan" defined as "doing only what the Democrats want?"

Still waiting for Democrats to cut Bush an inch of slack on anything.

Posted by: rnc on November 15, 2006 at 5:27 PM | PERMALINK

Murtha, Murtha, He's our man
He can be bought
by Abramoff's band.

That is liberal bipartisanship at its best.

Meet the new Democrat direction,
Same as the old Democrat deception.

I think Lieberman needs to act in a bipartisan manner by becoming a Republican; that way we will have complete balance in the senate.

Posted by: Orwell on November 15, 2006 at 5:27 PM | PERMALINK

Carville is Hillary's Karl Rove.

Washington, D.C. (AHN) - James Carville, one of the leading Democratic strategists and a sharp voice within the party says Howard Dean should be fired.

Carville says Democrats could have won as many as 50 seats in the House, yet Dean, the chairman of the Democratic Party, never authorized the necessary campaign spending.

Now, Carville tells the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, if he thinks Dean should resign; "In a word, do I think? Yes."

"I think he should be held accountable. I would describe his leadership as Rumsfeldian in its competence."

I wonder if Carville (aka, Clinton's Karl Rove) was responsible for the Dem Party running all those pictures of Osama bin Laden against Howard Dean in the 2004 primary elections? Even as Wes Clark recently made an example of the bin Laden face that DLC Dems had no problem using against Howard Dean back in 2004.

Carville is telling voters about those nasty Deanics and those nasty MoveOn.org people and the netroots people and that they are nothing but terrorist, for surely what would make Hillary look any more attactive to those GOP voters who have already been fed the spring well of the hate doctrine by Karl Rove. Perhaps Carville was so impressed with the genius of Karl Rove, he decided to tried it that same glove on for size, as if there were not enough liberal hate to go around. If you can't win against the vast right-wing conspiracy, you can always join them and it looks like Hillary and James Carville pretty much already have joined it.

Posted by: Cheryl on November 15, 2006 at 5:27 PM | PERMALINK

Still waiting for Democrats to cut Bush an inch of slack on anything.

Nah, he'd just fuck it up again. And again. And again. And then he'd keep the guy who fucked up in place. Again. And again.

Can't afford to keep going down that path, dude.

Posted by: Pale Rider on November 15, 2006 at 5:28 PM | PERMALINK

That giant sucking sound you hear is the Right Wing being aghast at collectively realizing that they got their butts handed to them last week by Howard Dean!!

AAAAEEEEGGGGGHHHHHHH !!!

(that's supposed to be the Howard Dean scream)

LOL.

Posted by: KG on November 15, 2006 at 5:31 PM | PERMALINK

Arlen Specter said he can't do anything in the lame-duck session, and Bush must wait until after January.

Nothing wrong with that comment, it's no DINO or otherwise, Specter simply has no choice.

Posted by: Cheryl on November 15, 2006 at 5:32 PM | PERMALINK

James Carville is now a member of the VRWC?!!!

Posted by: Jeffery on November 15, 2006 at 5:33 PM | PERMALINK

Still waiting for Democrats to cut Bush an inch of slack on anything.

he had a fucking 80% approval after 9/11. he had all the slack in the world. he fucked it up.

Posted by: cleek on November 15, 2006 at 5:36 PM | PERMALINK

James Carville must have been told that he needs to create a contraversy or he will lose some media gig.

If he is either the face or brain of Hillary Clinton, she has a real problem.

Hello Obama.

Posted by: Ron Byers on November 15, 2006 at 5:38 PM | PERMALINK

So GeeDubya's nominating "a bunch of judges so extreme that even Republicans have their doubts about them."

Has anyone noticed that Karl Rove's "permanent majority," which starting with the 1994 Contract
With America, and ended in total destruction last week, sounds eerily similar to the 1000-year Reich, which also only lasted twelve years?

Just wondering.

Bye bye, Turd Blossoms - Hello Howard Dean.

.

Posted by: KG on November 15, 2006 at 5:42 PM | PERMALINK

nobody gives a shit about your Joo stories

Posted by: cleek on November 15, 2006 at 5:44 PM | PERMALINK

GeeDubya had a 46% approval rating on Sept 10, 2001. GeeDubya had a high of 93% shortly after.

That's a difference of 47%.

He's now down to 31%.

Had it not been for Sept. 11, he would OWE 16% points.

Do the math.

Posted by: KG on November 15, 2006 at 5:46 PM | PERMALINK

So GeeDubya's nominating "a bunch of judges so extreme that even Republicans have their doubts about them."

Jeepers, does the Right Wing ever learn from its' failures:

"WASHINGTON (AP) -- Mississippi Sen. Trent Lott, ousted from the top Senate Republican leadership job four years ago because of remarks considered racially insensitive, won election to the No. 2 post Wednesday for the minority GOP in the next Congress."

Can Al Haig be far behind ?

LOL. This is so insane it's priceless. It's got to be intentional what they're doing . . .

Posted by: KG on November 15, 2006 at 5:57 PM | PERMALINK

Still waiting for Democrats to cut Bush an inch of slack on anything.

That is Guckert's job.

Posted by: Hostile on November 15, 2006 at 5:58 PM | PERMALINK

He will not be able to move any of his nominees in the lame duck session. They are all dead as doornails in January.

I don't think George got the memo about it being a lame duck session in congress right now. Maybe he was waiting on Rice to read to him?

Someone should definitely give incurious George a heads-up, before those low poll numbers hit little George square right in his toothless face.

If Nixon was impeached at 29% how much longer could George have in office at 31%? Surely it's almost impeachment time. As I recall, Nixon appointed Chief Justice William Rehnquist right before he was impeached and many in congress were saying he no longer had an mandate to appoint anyone. Maybe Bush knows what all those investigations will turn up and is just trying to wind down the clock before Bush/Cheney completely lose the game outright.

Posted by: Cheryl on November 15, 2006 at 5:58 PM | PERMALINK

The "golden" date is January 20, 2007. If Bush and Cheney can hang on until then, whomever the GOP get to replace them can still run for 2 full terms after that.

Posted by: Jeffery on November 15, 2006 at 6:03 PM | PERMALINK

GeeDubya's at 31%. Nobody cares what he thinks.

Posted by: KG on November 15, 2006 at 6:08 PM | PERMALINK

that would be 2009

Posted by: KG on November 15, 2006 at 6:09 PM | PERMALINK

McCain?

So far McCain is coming off like Bush #2, with a "stay the course" campaign (obsession), and we already know how popular Dubya is, right?

Posted by: Cheryl on November 15, 2006 at 6:11 PM | PERMALINK

George Bush sure is following up on last week's clarion call for humble bipartisanship, isn't he?

George who?

Posted by: craigie on November 15, 2006 at 6:17 PM | PERMALINK

You remember George, the one who is still Commander-in-Chief during a war, and will probably use his veto pen a lot more in the next 2 years.

Posted by: Jeffery on November 15, 2006 at 6:32 PM | PERMALINK

Sorry, no, not ringing a bell....

Posted by: swami on November 15, 2006 at 6:40 PM | PERMALINK

Maybe you've got that Alzheimer's disease Reagan got at the end of his Presidency. You remember Ronald Reagan, right?

Posted by: Jeffery on November 15, 2006 at 6:42 PM | PERMALINK

What would "bipartisanship" look like to K-Drum? After Pelosi becomes Speaker of the House, for both Bush and Cheney to resign, making her the first female POTUS, just to screw over Hillary?

Posted by: Jeffery on November 15, 2006 at 6:44 PM | PERMALINK

OK I give up. What is Bush trying to prove?

I think GWB just has a "screw you" attitude, very immature for a President (if you like understatement).

The Democrats should really hammer him about Bolton. That one is truly inexcusable. The Democrats should take advantage of that act and basically say:

"See, this is why we will have to assume responsibility and run things ourselves".

Because, to me, that is literally what is necessary.

Posted by: little ole jim from red country on November 15, 2006 at 6:47 PM | PERMALINK

Jeffrey

The President probably will use his veto pen a lot during the next two years, but since he will not be using it on Democratic wedge issues his veto pen will probably be a net plus, plus for the Democrats.

I might be wrong, but if he were to use it on say a bill increasing the minimum wage (that has an 89% approval rating) a couple of shortsighted folks at the chamber of commerce might be happy to see him veto the law, but the rest of America, not so much.

If a strong bipartisan health insurance bill is passed or maybe something popular in the area of energy independence, Bush might use his veto pen. Good luck with those issues in 2008.

You can basically count on the fact that Democrats aren't going to bring a gay marriage or other similar wedge issue to the floor. George just isn't going to have much to veto. The things he will have to veto are going to be pretty populist and popular with base Republican constituents. For example,I have a hunch that Charlie Rangel is going to advance an alternative minimum tax reform bill. Since that bill is really important for those folks making between $100,000 and $400,000 per year, I have a hunch Bush won't veto it, but if he does, the Democrats will say thank you very much.

Posted by: Ron Byers on November 15, 2006 at 6:48 PM | PERMALINK

Can we start calling him K-Y Drum?

Posted by: Jeffery on November 15, 2006 at 6:50 PM | PERMALINK

Jeffery: After Pelosi becomes Speaker of the House, for both Bush and Cheney to resign, making her the first female POTUS, just to screw over Hillary?

That's the most hopeful thing you've said since you took over for Charlie.

Posted by: anandine on November 15, 2006 at 6:52 PM | PERMALINK

Well, stupidity isn't an impeachable offense. However, ordering the CIA to break U.S. and international law on torture, abuse of prisoners and arbitrary rendition sure is. As is domestic spying. As is influence peddling. As is sanctioning propaganda.
President Pelosi has a sonority all its own.

Posted by: Sparko on November 15, 2006 at 6:53 PM | PERMALINK

Who knows, Ron, Bush MIGHT just finally find his voice, as Reagan did, going over the head of the Congress and speaking directly to the American people. He could explain how few people make the minimum wage right now, how prices will go up for them as well as the rest of us, and the negative impact that would have on our economy.

Posted by: Jeffery on November 15, 2006 at 6:56 PM | PERMALINK

Sparko:

Sorry, but Nancy already took impeachment off the table.

anandine:

I realize that is K-Y Drum's wet dream, but the definition of "bipartisanship" it ain't.

Posted by: Jeffery on November 15, 2006 at 6:58 PM | PERMALINK

"Still waiting for Democrats to cut Bush an inch of slack on anything"

We have offered our top Moyel, Irving Dipschitz, for a special in oval office Bris, time and again. Shrub keeps insisting on using non-kosher Jim Beam for the pain killer. What more do we have to do to be truly bi-partisan?

Of course, this is same Irving who has all of the trools upset about their whack jobs.

Posted by: thethirdPaul on November 15, 2006 at 6:59 PM | PERMALINK

Bush:

Oh, you want bipartisanship?

I thought you said "try partisanship."

Posted by: sa rose on November 15, 2006 at 6:59 PM | PERMALINK

President Sonny Perdue?

Clinton, Romney, McCain, Giuliani, Obama, Frist, Gingrich, Gore, Kerry, Rice, Edwards, Pataki, Biden Like it or not, the 2008 presidential race is officially underway. Whats missing is a clear front-runner for the Republican nomination.

Georgia governor Sonny Perdue is, perhaps, the GOPs best hope of maintaining control of the White House.

Republicans are Mad about Spending and Immigration

Perdue balanced the budget in Georgia, which insulates him from the criticisms that face any candidate that comes from our irresponsible, deficit-swelling congress.

Perdue passed the toughest immigration legislation in the country, while Washington did nothing.

Independents are Mad about the Iraq and Trade

Since Perdue wasnt in Washington during the vote to authorize the Iraq war, he can approach it with an open mind and no political baggage.

Regarding trade reform, Perdue can reach out to natural allies like Gingrey, Norwood, Deal, and Westmorland, all of whom have been outspoken about cracking down on Chinese trade abuses (especially regarding child and slave labor).

Perdue was the GOPs Only Bright Light in the Mid-Term Election

With Perdue at the top of the ticket, Georgia Republicans picked up both the Lt. Governor and Sectary of State offices and expanded the Republican majority in the statehouse. Republicans in the rest of the country took a thumpin.

And theres plenty for the media to like too. Perdue is a veteran, a veterinarian, father of four, foster parent of eight, and was a walk-on quarterback at the University of Georgia. He also has a small role in the upcoming Matthew McConaughey football movie We Are Marshall.

I challenge anyone looking at the current list of GOP hopefuls to name a stronger candidate than Governor Sonny Perdue.

Posted by: John Konop on November 15, 2006 at 7:05 PM | PERMALINK

While I don't want to see it happen, he would probably have to sign the following himself:

GRANTING PARDON TO GEORGE W. BUSH AND RICHARD B. CHENEY

------

BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

A PROCLAMATION

George W. Bush became the forty-third President of the United States, and Richard B. Cheney became his Vice President, on January 20, 2001. They were reelected in 2004 for a second term which continued until their resignations on January ___, 2007. Pursuant to resolutions of the House of Representatives, its Committee on the Judiciary conducted an inquiry and investigation on the impeachment of the President and Vice President. The hearings of the Committee and its deliberations, which received wide national publicity over television, radio, Internet and in printed media, resulted in votes adverse to both Bush and Cheney on recommended Articles of Impeachment. As a result of certain acts or omissions, they have become liable to possible indictment and trial for offenses against the United States. Whether or not they shall be so prosecuted depends on findings of the appropriate grand jury and on the discretion of the authorized prosecutor. Should an indictment ensue, the accused shall then be entitled to a fair trial by an impartial jury, as guaranteed to every individual by the Constitution. It is believed that said trial, if it became necessary, could not fairly begin until a year or more has elapsed. In the meantime, the tranquility to which this nation has been restored could be irreparably lost by the prospects of bringing to trial a former President and Vice President of the United States. The prospects of such trial will cause prolonged and divisive debate over the propriety of exposing to further punishment and degradation men who have already paid the unprecedented penalty of relinquishing the highest elective offices of the United States.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, George, W. Bush, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto George W. Bush and Richard B. Cheney for all offenses against the United States which they have committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 2001 through January ___, 2007.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this ____ day of January, in the year of our Lord two thousand and seven, and of the Independence of the United States of America the two hundred and thirty-first.

Posted by: Jeffery on November 15, 2006 at 7:05 PM | PERMALINK

Bush and his advisers don't know anyone else they'd druther put up. If they aren't "on the team" (that is, part of the gang -- or, increasingly, part of Dad's gang), they aren't trustworthy, and they won't be nominated.

The problem for Bush and his advisers is that "the team" is shrinking like a raisin in the sun. Simple as that.

Prediction: Bush will continue doing this through the end of his term. Look for more recess appointments. Look for interim or acting appointments. Look for unfilled vacancies (particularly in the Judiciary). But don't look for fresh people, and certainly not people with fresh ideas.

The BushCo Personnel Mine is played out -- and has been played out in certain departments for several years now.

Posted by: Dave Alway on November 15, 2006 at 7:06 PM | PERMALINK

Sorry, but Nancy already took impeachment off the table.

Sorry hon, I don't think you have that right. Impeachment is off the table for the moment, but depending on what our investigations unearth it could be right back up there. We Democrats take our constitutional obligations very seriously, and couldn't very well agree not to impeach if we found the President and Vice-President guilty of high crimes and misdemeanor.

That frightens you, I know. Sorry, hon.

Posted by: N. Pelosi on November 15, 2006 at 7:09 PM | PERMALINK

John:

McCain and Giuliani, obviously.

Posted by: Jeffery on November 15, 2006 at 7:11 PM | PERMALINK

can you explain this

McCain, Former Secretary Thompson to Form Presidential Exploratory Groups

Posted by: qedwe on November 15, 2006 at 7:12 PM | PERMALINK

Minimum wage increases, unless they are truly huge, have little or no effect on core inflation. Certain industries might have to raise prices, such as coffee shops, and restaurants, but upping the minimum wage by a couple bucks an hour isn't going to affect the price of gasoline, groceries, automobiles, electricity, or rent.

What it will do, though, is allow more people to get off social assistance, attend school, or raise their children to be healthy productive members of society.

Frankly, if a buusiness cannot afford to pay a living wage, it should either raise prices until it can, or get the fuck out of business.

Posted by: CHARLES PARR on November 15, 2006 at 7:12 PM | PERMALINK

Here's the full List of Nominations Sent to the Senate today:

Terrence W. Boyle, of North Carolina, to be United States Circuit Judge for the Fourth Circuit, vice J. Dickson Phillips, Jr., retired.

William James Haynes II, of Virginia, to be United States Circuit Judge for the Fourth Circuit, vice H. Emory Widener, Jr., retiring.

Peter D. Keisler, of Maryland, to be United States Circuit Judge for the District of Columbia Circuit, vice John G. Roberts, Jr., elevated.

William Gerry Myers III, of Idaho, to be United States Circuit Judge for the Ninth Circuit, vice Thomas G. Nelson, retired.

James Edward Rogan, of California, to be United States District Judge for the Central District of California, vice Nora M. Manella, resigned.

Margaret A. Ryan, of Virginia, to be a Judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces for the term of fifteen years to expire on the date prescribed by law, vice Herman F. Gierke, term expired.

Benjamin Hale Settle, of Washington, to be United States District Judge for the Western District of Washington, vice Franklin D. Burgess, retired.

Norman Randy Smith, of Idaho, to be United States Circuit Judge for the Ninth Circuit, vice Stephen S. Trott, retired.

Scott Wallace Stucky, of Maryland, to be a Judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces for the term of fifteen years to expire on the date prescribed by law, vice Susan J. Crawford, term expired.

Michael Brunson Wallace, of Mississippi, to be United States Circuit Judge for the Fifth Circuit, vice Charles W. Pickering, Sr., retired.

Posted by: Jeffery on November 15, 2006 at 7:26 PM | PERMALINK

Charles Parr,

Exactly what happened in Oregon and Washington - The restaurant industry shill screamed that the sky was going to fall and it is still there. Of course Scaife, would have to give all of their trools raises.

John Konop,

Oh, goody for Perdue - Will he bring his own flag with him?

Posted by: thethirdPaul on November 15, 2006 at 7:28 PM | PERMALINK

A word about Trent Lott, (off topic, yes).

Lott is coming back a better man, and really the netroots just play right into Bush's hand with Lott's downfall anyway with Frist and his devotion to Eli Lilly and big Pharma.

Senator Lott learn a valuable lesson about Bush's cheap loyality rhetoric, that such rhetoric is only skin deep. Trent Lott did everything Bush asked him to do, and in the end Bush screwed him royally, just like Bush screwed Colin Powell and lot of other old style Republicans.

Lott really hasn't forgiven Bush for what happened to him, and that makes for a Republican that (hopefully) will not mind standing up to Bush, and heaven knows we could use more Republicans like that, conservatives that put their states before loyality to a really stupid president. If this is the first show of mending of a Republican Party back to some sort of old style conservative roots, instead of the neo-con Republicans that did whatever Bush wanted without a hint of any oversight, than that direction certainly can't be all bad.

Trent Lott could be the first of a true reform effort by conservatives that surely lost their way under Bush/Cheney's corrupt hands.

Posted by: Cheryl on November 15, 2006 at 7:28 PM | PERMALINK

George W. Bush cares more about the Saudis than he does about Americans. Why else would he have had the 28 pages of the 9-11 Commission Report dealing with Saudi funding of the 9-11 hijackers withheld from the publics scrutiny? Democrats need to make that information publicly available as soon as the new Congress convenes in January. Read this article by whistleblower Sibel Edmonds and you will agree that Nancy Pelosi needs to make impeachment of both Bush and Cheney priority one!!!

Posted by: The Conservative Deflator on November 15, 2006 at 7:32 PM | PERMALINK

qedwe:

It's a link to a web site story about McCain and Thompson forming exploratory committees, but that's not important right now ...

Charles:

Well, how "huge" of an increase are the Dems proposing? I know unemployment is really low right now, but actively wishing for small businesses to fail (especially since they employ the majority of Americans) can hardly be good campaign ad material -- for the Democrats at least -- that being said, maybe it's about time Bush go directly to the people.

Posted by: Jeffery on November 15, 2006 at 7:33 PM | PERMALINK

The Conservative Deflator:

How is Nancy going to base an impeachment on information she ALREADY KNEW about before the election?

Posted by: Jeffery on November 15, 2006 at 7:34 PM | PERMALINK

Walter E. Wallis: That nasty Bolton - actually standing up for U.S. interests in the U.N.
We sure can't let that go on.

Bolton stood up for partisan conservative interests, which as we've seen are not the same as American interests.

And you are right; we can't let that go on.

Posted by: Advocate for God on November 15, 2006 at 7:39 PM | PERMALINK


The Iran/Contra thugs, who should still be serving time, are instead serving in Junior's administration
as appointees. Bolton, Negroponte, etc., are just the most visible.

Without Democrats keeping the congress from straying
too far from center, the conservatives would lead this country straight into fascism. Of course, all
all of this would be wrapped in 100% "Americanism"!

Posted by: awfton on November 15, 2006 at 7:44 PM | PERMALINK

Neither John Poindexter nor Oliver North are in "Junior's" (I wonder if you will put up with some pejoritive term for Clinton's wife should be become POTUS). Negroponte was the National Intelligence Director, but Bolton had a very minor role in the whole fiasco. Which "thugs" are you referring to?

Thank you for proving my point, though, from another thread about the derision reserved for Iran-Contra figures only, not Democratic-scandal figures.

Posted by: Jeffery on November 15, 2006 at 7:53 PM | PERMALINK

Candy Crowley just did a very flattering piece about Trent Lott. Now Wolf is chatting nicely with Michael Steele. It's driving me crazy.

Posted by: kgb on November 15, 2006 at 7:56 PM | PERMALINK

Sorry, kbg -- it's called "bipartisanship".

Posted by: Jeffery on November 15, 2006 at 7:58 PM | PERMALINK

Kevin - you never fell for the line that Bush is basically a good, honest, if simple fellow?

Posted by: Neil' on November 15, 2006 at 7:59 PM | PERMALINK

Neil:

You must have missed K-Y Drum's thread on free trade?

Posted by: Jeffery on November 15, 2006 at 8:01 PM | PERMALINK
Neither John Poindexter nor Oliver North are in "Junior's" (I wonder if you will put up with some pejoritive term for Clinton's wife should be become POTUS).

"Junior" to distinguish father from son with the same name (though not quite technically correct with GHWB v. GWB) is not "pejorative".

"Shrub", OTOH, is pejorative.

Furthermore, Rear Admiral John M. Poindexter, USN (Ret.), was Director of the Information Awareness Office at DARPA, though briefly, in this administration. That ended pretty quickly once that office attracted public attention and was subsequently defunded.

Posted by: cmdicely on November 15, 2006 at 8:20 PM | PERMALINK

I believe that the GOP would be putting the final nail in it's coffin, if as an outgoing act, the Keystone Congress of 2006 were to collectively extend its middle finger to the American public who PAY their salaries. ((We all know corporations and rich people don't pay taxes) So who the FUCK do these people think they are?

I think it would be a final, lasting deathblow to the GOP. Even they might not be stupid enough to try it.

Posted by: marblex on November 15, 2006 at 9:28 PM | PERMALINK

So Al is scoffing at "liar and faker Michael J Fox".

Funny how he didn't know to slur the actor until magically told to do so at a certain time when it mattered to his masters. This guy is a walking blowjob for the GOP. Trouble is, every prison punk should know when his protector is losing power, and now would be the time to switch to a better butch, bitch. Your shit is so over.

Posted by: Kenji on November 15, 2006 at 9:39 PM | PERMALINK

Now THAT is defamation of Jews...

Posted by: yesh on November 15, 2006 at 9:45 PM | PERMALINK

Okay, okay, Bush is a big fat Jew. But I hate the bastard anyway. Now stop schvitzing, already.

Posted by: Kenji on November 15, 2006 at 9:47 PM | PERMALINK

'fraid I have to repeat my 10:05 post from above:

Kevin, thanks for removing the Jew-baiter from the mix, but your, um, circumcision leaves us Jew-baita hatas looking foolish. Must be some kind of conspiracy.

Posted by: Kenji on November 15, 2006 at 10:17 PM | PERMALINK

Jeffrey:

Pelosi knew what about what? The missing 28 pages of the 9-11 Commission Report? Or the notes from Cheney's secret energy task force? Or the archival information from the first Bush presidency that was put under lock and key by Dubya as his first presidential act? All are secret. I wouldn't be so confident Nancy Pelosi has personally seen any of that information.

By the way - Who does George W. Bush and Richard Bruce Cheney work for again? Oh yeah! The American people! Could you remind them of that please, before we begin building the gallows to hang them for treason? Thanks,

TCD

Posted by: The Conservative Deflator on November 15, 2006 at 10:24 PM | PERMALINK

When Bolton was first nominated for UN Ambassador, the liberal could claim he was unsuited to the job, even though his background showed that he was well suited. Now that Bolton has done an excellent job as UN Ambassador, the liberals have no excuse at all to oppose him.

But, the liberals don't need an excuse. They don't care that he's a capable public servant who's doing good for country and for the world. They only care about demonizing their enemies.

In the 1950's liberal were demonized by Joseph McCarthy and his ilk. The lesson they took was that it's better to demonize than to be demonized. So, their rule is that once someone is declared persona non grata, he must be opposed and vilified at all costs.

I know this is a harsh criticism, but read Kevin's post and your comments. You all think it's terrible for Bush to re-nominate Bolton, even though none of you claim that he's been corrupt or ineffective.

Posted by: ex-liberal on November 16, 2006 at 12:50 AM | PERMALINK

No, but that moustache cannot be allowed to continue insulting the UN.

Posted by: craigie on November 16, 2006 at 1:21 AM | PERMALINK

Bipartisanship for Bush means Guckert visiting the WH for a couple hundred times.

Posted by: Art on November 16, 2006 at 1:47 AM | PERMALINK

Why did you delete this?

In the 2004 US election you got to choose between the Jew Kerry and the Jew Bush.

See Bush is a Jew for 30 or so pictures of GW Bush and his brother Jeb having fun with rabbis, etc,.... Kerry himself publicly admitted to being of Jewish descent (although claims to be a Christian just like Bush does).

Some choice,... eh? In essence, the result of the election has already been decided before you get to "choose".

Personally, I would rather have the Iranian type of election.

Anyway, given the last election was rigged before it started, this one will be too.

All the entrants will be Jews,... just like Hillary Clinton,... etc,...

The Jews Bush and Kerry are related as follows:

Edmund Reade m. Elizabeth Cooke
.Elizabeth Reade m. John Winthrop
 .Waite Still Winthrop m. Mary Browne
  .John Winthrop m. Ann Dudley
   .John Still Winthrop m. Jane Borland
    .Thomas Lindall Winthrop m. Elizabeth Bowdoin Temple
     .ROBERT CHARLES WINTHROP (Speaker) m. Elizabeth Cabot Blanchard
      .Robert Charles Winthrop m. Elizabeth Mason
       .Margaret Tyndal Winthrop m. James Grant Forbes
        .Rosemary G. Forbes m. Richard John Kerry
         .JOHN FORBES KERRY, US Presidential Candidate

Edmund Reade m. Elizabeth Cooke
.Margaret Reade m. John Lake
 .Hannah Anna Lake m. John Gallup
  .Elizabeth Gallup m. Henry Stevens
   .Henry Stevens m. Elizabeth Fellows
    .Lucy Stevens m. Ephraim Smith
     .Sanford Smith m. Priscilla Whippo
      .Harriet Smith m. Obadiah Newcomb Bush
       .James Smith Bush m. Harriet Eleanor Fay
        .Samuel Prescott Bush m. Flora Sheldon
         .Prescott Sheldon Bush m. Dorothy Walker
         .GEORGE HERBERT WALKER BUSH, US President m. Barbara Pierce
          .GEORGE W. BUSH, US President

Posted by: sue.me on November 16, 2006 at 2:16 AM | PERMALINK
Now that Bolton has done an excellent job as UN Ambassador...

Bahahahaha - thanks, ex-liberal, I needed the laugh.

But to tell you the truth, I could use some more laughter. Would you be so good as to attempt to defend that ludicrous assertion? Much obliged.


Also, and completely unrelated to ex-liberal's post, Jew haters can bite me.

Posted by: Mithrandir on November 16, 2006 at 2:33 AM | PERMALINK

Isn't it telling that Karl Rove, the man who is called "Bush's Brain" is also nicknamed "Turd Blossom?"

George Bush really is full of it.

Posted by: pj in jesusland on November 16, 2006 at 5:53 AM | PERMALINK

Fair point about Bush. He doesn't know how to be bipartisan. But do we really want the Dems to extend an olive branch? The bipartisan talk is nice to hear, and I certainly hope Nancy Pelosi doesn't overreach, but I want the Dems to advance a Dem agenda, not a bipartisan one.

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