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November 27, 2006
By: Kevin Drum

ANOTHER URBAN LEGEND BITES THE DUST....Following up on a burning question from last month, is it really true that green magazine covers are "newsstand death"? Julia Turner investigates for Slate and reports that (a) this opinion is universally held in the magazine industry, but (b) no one has even a shred of evidence that it's true. If I had a nickel for every story that turned out that way, it would be me handing out billion dollar checks for mass vaccination programs, not Bill Gates.

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Who said
"If I had a nickel for every time I'd been arrested, I'd have fifteen cents." ?

Posted by: craigie on November 27, 2006 at 7:27 PM | PERMALINK

Can we vaccinate this blog against Charlie?

Posted by: craigie on November 27, 2006 at 7:32 PM | PERMALINK

I have a 16 guage needle and access to antivenom Craigie. You hold him down.

Posted by: Perpetually Inquisitive on November 27, 2006 at 7:42 PM | PERMALINK

It won't be torture, it will just be "alternative blogging techniques."

Posted by: craigie on November 27, 2006 at 7:44 PM | PERMALINK

Let's make other urban myths bite the dust too, like the myth of a "liberal media", and that tax cuts pay for themselves.

Posted by: AkaDad on November 27, 2006 at 7:54 PM | PERMALINK

What Liberal Media? I keep looking for it but I can't find the damned thing.

Posted by: Perpetually Inquisitive on November 27, 2006 at 7:57 PM | PERMALINK

craigie: Who said "If I had a nickel for every time I'd been arrested, I'd have fifteen cents." ?

My sources at the LAPD tell me it could have been you. I told you to stop bugging that location cop with the 'stache.

Dumb goes Frazier: Maybe I'm under-reacting here. But aren't there some more important issues out there?

Nothing you've shown any ability to discuss with competence, lad.

I love everything green. Green, green, green is my favorite color. I'd buy a green magazine in a New York minute.

Posted by: shortstop on November 27, 2006 at 8:01 PM | PERMALINK

The spring schedules came out about three weeks ago and they are a nice green. Made me want to enroll in some environmental biology classes.

Posted by: Perpetually Inquisitive on November 27, 2006 at 8:05 PM | PERMALINK

When I was a liquor store clerk, a customer once told me that Dolly Parton, as the result of a silicone implant gone horribly awry, had only one enormous breast with two nipples.

To me this remains the gold standard of urban myths (although it is actually more of a country myth).

Posted by: bub on November 27, 2006 at 8:06 PM | PERMALINK

I trust Bill and Melinda just a little more than I trust you and Marian.
Posted by: Cheney on November 27, 2006 at 7:27 PM | PERMALINK

That's because you're too stupid to realize that Kevin isn't harvesting and selling your personal information to the highest bidder.

Posted by: impeach.remove.convict.punish.justice on November 27, 2006 at 8:06 PM | PERMALINK

Anyways, I see the horny lesbian cheerleader is back -- my cue to turn in for the evening -- good night, kids.

Aw, Charlie, still bitter about my turning down all your clumsy passes in e-mail? Maybe I shouldn't have said "It's something personal"--that was kind of bitchy of me.

Posted by: shortstop on November 27, 2006 at 8:14 PM | PERMALINK

To quote a previous comment from last June:
The crime of seditious conspiracy is committed when blah blah blah
Article V: Fraud and Theft Crimes
5.02.5 Computer Impersonation
(A) For the purposes of 5.02.5, a person's computer identity shall include but is not limited to:
(1) A person's name, address, social security number, employment, legal and medical history;
(2) A person's financial information including but not limited to: bank account numbers, credit card numbers, credit history, brokerage accounts and salary;
(3) A person's identification numbers including but not limited to: pin numbers, access codes, passwords, e-mail address and any other type of security code.
(B) A person is guilty of the offense of computer impersonation when he/she accesses a computer, computer system or computer network and assumes the computer identity of another person.

..."RCheney@WhiteHouse.gov" is it?


Originally Posted by: on June 17, 2006 at 1:56 PM

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2006_06/009028.php#904670

Posted by: Mike on November 27, 2006 at 8:43 PM | PERMALINK

Anyways, I see the horny lesbian cheerleader is back -- my cue to turn in for the evening -- good night, kids.

So that's one horny cheerleader coming, and one stale parody troll leaving.

I'd say that's win-win for the rest of us.

Posted by: Clap Louder on November 27, 2006 at 9:22 PM | PERMALINK

"So that's one horny cheerleader coming"

I didn't hear anything.

Posted by: Joel on November 27, 2006 at 9:31 PM | PERMALINK

I was a cheerleader in high school. But maybe you all won't hold that against me if I tell you about the game I cheered the last half with my skirt on backwards.

Posted by: Perpetually Inquisitive on November 27, 2006 at 9:32 PM | PERMALINK

"So that's one horny cheerleader coming"

I figured given what I was revealing in my last post I oughta just let that one sail on by...

Posted by: Perpetually Inquisitive on November 27, 2006 at 9:34 PM | PERMALINK

Urban Legend #1:

With a few more troops we'd have them Iraqi a-rabs whistling Dixie.

Posted by: ROTFLMLiberalAO on November 27, 2006 at 9:46 PM | PERMALINK

Sorry for the pun; didn't mean to turn this into an Atrios open thread. It's just that I had never heard the words "horny" "lesbian" and "cheerleader" used as a putdown before.

And Perpetually Inquisitive, you owe us a story. At the very least, it may save Messrs. Limbaugh and Cheney another trip to the Dominican.

Posted by: Clap Louder on November 27, 2006 at 9:56 PM | PERMALINK

I think it oughta be pretty self explanatory. See back in the seventies, we used to experience this phenomenon called "getting lucky."

Posted by: Perpetually Inquisitive on November 27, 2006 at 9:57 PM | PERMALINK

the November 18th-24th Economist has a Green cover, and a couple good (short) articles on investments in renewable energy generation.

In short, the rate of investment is increasing, spurred by increased fuel prices and changes in government support.

Posted by: MatthewRMarler on November 27, 2006 at 9:58 PM | PERMALINK

I remember a book editor saying that red covers sell books bigtime, and that pastels are the kiss of death.

Also, for some reason, an animal (esp a horse) on the cover helps.

Of course, this was the editor who told me three-word, six-syllable titles were the way to go.

IF they'd put as much energy into choosing good books.....

Posted by: blast on November 27, 2006 at 10:02 PM | PERMALINK

Silly me. All these years I have been deciding what magazines to read based on the actual content. You know, that part between the celebrity headshot and the midol ad? Rather than the color of the cover. My weak little girlie mind just didn't know any better.

Posted by: Perpetually Inquisitive on November 27, 2006 at 10:05 PM | PERMALINK

is it really true that green magazine covers are "newsstand death"?

well, if it's green and it's got GW on it, that does it for me.

Also red and GW, blue and GW, purple and GW, pink and GW...

Posted by: snicker-snack on November 27, 2006 at 10:14 PM | PERMALINK

If anyone's still interested, due to quirks in the traditional color separation process, a good green color is one of the hardest of all colors to reproduce. There's a reason nobody rips off Harrods green, which happens to be the reason Harrods chose it in the first place.

Posted by: Dave of Maryland on November 27, 2006 at 10:23 PM | PERMALINK

Dave; according to the physical rules of light that's absolutely correct - just the right amount of just the right yellow, and just the right amount of just the right blue. Green is tricky. that's why it has traditionally been used for paper currency because counterfeiting green is harder than blue or brown or black.

Posted by: Perpetually Inquisitive on November 27, 2006 at 10:27 PM | PERMALINK

It's just that I had never heard the words "horny" "lesbian" and "cheerleader" used as a putdown before.

For me, the "cheerleader" part would be suspect. But for Charlie, "horny" and "lesbian" are the pejoratives. Just another way to separate the liberals from the chaff.

It could be time to bring the Hot Lesbian Cheerleaders out for a walk. They've been hanging in the...closet...for a while now.

Posted by: shortstop on November 27, 2006 at 10:29 PM | PERMALINK

I thought they were hanging in a bathroom stall.

Posted by: Perpetually Inquisitive on November 27, 2006 at 10:43 PM | PERMALINK

It could be time to bring the Hot Lesbian Cheerleaders out for a walk.

That's not the verb I was hoping that sentence would end with, but it's start...

Posted by: craigie on November 27, 2006 at 10:46 PM | PERMALINK

You know, if this is all it takes to get rid of Charlie, then I think the Hot Lesbian Cheerleaders should just set up camp at Political Animal. Kind of like garlic to keep away vampires.

Posted by: craigie on November 27, 2006 at 10:48 PM | PERMALINK

Well, it's been a while but the skirt still fits...And I'll try anything once.

Posted by: Perpetually Inquisitive on November 27, 2006 at 10:50 PM | PERMALINK

That's a good point, shortstop. Now if Scooter Libby had used those words in a letter to Lynne Cheney, they wouldn't be pejorative.

Let's see:

"Out West, where you vacation, the horny lesbian cheerleaders will already be turning. They turn in clusters, because their roots connect them."

Now that's sweet music.

Posted by: Clap Louder on November 27, 2006 at 10:53 PM | PERMALINK

Lemme fix this for you, clap louder:

They turn in clusters in a really sharp pom-pom waterfall.

Think like a cheerleader with a physics book in her backpack!

Posted by: Perpetually Inquisitive on November 27, 2006 at 10:55 PM | PERMALINK

The physics book is there to weigh down her head, right?

Posted by: craigie on November 27, 2006 at 10:56 PM | PERMALINK

All those numbers just made me lightheaded! Sigmas and Omega and Pi's oh my!

Posted by: Perpetually Inquisitive on November 27, 2006 at 10:58 PM | PERMALINK

I think the Hot Lesbian Cheerleaders should just set up camp at Political Animal.

While out running some very important errands I suddenly felt an irresistable urge -- a calling, if you will - to abandon them and race home to read this thread.

Now I understand why.

Posted by: [name withheld] on November 27, 2006 at 11:00 PM | PERMALINK

Sigmas and Omega and Pi's oh my!

Wasn't that nice Ben Affleck in The Sum of All Pie?

Posted by: craigie on November 27, 2006 at 11:05 PM | PERMALINK

Hey guys - ever been Porky Piggin?

Somebody tell me you have partaken in this great American debauchery. We weren't having all the fun on I-35 between Lamoni and Des Moines were we?

Posted by: Perpetually Inquisitive on November 27, 2006 at 11:05 PM | PERMALINK

Okay, here is what Porky Piggin is: You get a 65 Mustang Convertible and you fill it full of wholesome Iowa cheerleaders. Give 'em a bag of ditchweed and a couple of bottles of Boones Farm, and before you know it, four hotties are crusiing down the interstate at 75 miles an hour in a convertible; wearing no pants.

Posted by: Perpetually Inquisitive on November 27, 2006 at 11:09 PM | PERMALINK

"Lamoni" and "Des Moines" are what - moons orbiting Jupiter, right?

Also, if I drive east from Los Angeles, how long is it before I fall off the edge of the world, into outer darkness?

Posted by: craigie on November 27, 2006 at 11:10 PM | PERMALINK

Once again, you're right, Ms. Inquisitive. Any chance "Been there, done that" applies to your correction?

I was going to comment that some holiday... oops, I mean't Christmas (sorry General O'Reilly) magazine issues have green covers, but I just can't stop thinking about you and waterfalls....

Posted by: Clap Louder on November 27, 2006 at 11:11 PM | PERMALINK

Oh yeah, the waterfall, the Porky Piggin.

Lamoni and Des Moines are what you all refer to as flyover country. We don't mind being overlooked. Everytime someone from a coast moves in they buy a farmhouse and try to build an atruim and colapse a wall and we all have a good laugh and then they move away.

Posted by: Perpetually Inquisitive on November 27, 2006 at 11:15 PM | PERMALINK

This time of year, we always used one red and one green pom-pom for all of our routines. Red and green are so festive! The wierd guy who only went into town twice a year always harvested his weed this time of year and it was always red and green.

I just loved christmas when I was a teenager.

Posted by: Perpetually Inquisitive on November 27, 2006 at 11:23 PM | PERMALINK

no one has even a shred of evidence that it's true. If I had a nickel for every story that turned out that way, it would be me handing out billion dollar checks for mass vaccination programs, not Bill Gates.

Or you'd be a Republican fundraiser.

Posted by: Gregory on November 28, 2006 at 4:24 AM | PERMALINK

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I slept through all of the above, fortunately!

While out running some very important errands I suddenly felt an irresistable urge -- a calling, if you will - to abandon them and race home to read this thread.

Bwa. Dude, I didn't even have to look at the e-mail.

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three-word, six-syllable titles were the way to go

Ahhh
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