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January 12, 2007
By: Kevin Drum

"CHENEY'S DEAD-ENDERS"....A few month ago rumors were rife that Dick Cheney's star had fallen, victim to an endless war in Iraq that had led to stunning Republican losses in the midterm election. Even Laura had supposedly turned against him.

But with all the recent talk about going after Iran, it's pretty obvious that Dick Cheney hasn't lost any of his mojo. And there's a pretty good reason for that: Dick Cheney isn't so much a person as he is a virtual brand name within the Bush administration:

He has long surrounded himself with impeccably loyal aides who both share his worldview of a powerful presidency unchecked by the legislative branch, and who have also installed like-minded allies throughout the government. Such allies provide crucial intelligence of inter-departmental debates, enabling Cheney to make end-runs around the bureaucracy and head off opposing views at key meetings. Call it Cheney's state within the state.

That's from "Cheney's Dead-Enders," a piece by Laura Rozen in the current issue of the Monthly. Check it out. These are the people running your government.

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It ain't Cheney, it's Rove. Where's he been lately?

Posted by: Dave of Maryland on January 12, 2007 at 12:43 PM | PERMALINK

It is Bush, convinced he is a visionary, prodded along by Cheney.

Posted by: Gore/Edwards 08 on January 12, 2007 at 12:49 PM | PERMALINK

Ok perhaps this is a little to tin-foiled, but maybe this explains this whole escalation thing. Obvious Primer Minister al-Maliki does not want more US troops there, he thinks that the Shiites will win Iraq modulo Kurdistan in a war of attrition with the Sunnis. By making the continued escalation of troop levels contingent on al-Maliki's ability to tamp down the sectarian violence, Bush has actually incentivised al-Maliki to do absolutely nothing to calm Baghdad down and in fact if anything make it worse. Bush then builds up a case that Iran is behind the ever-escalating violence in the capital (which will be only somewhat true, not true enough to be a valid casus belli) and bada-bing! we're at war with Iran.

Cheney's hand is all over this thing.

Posted by: reader on January 12, 2007 at 12:49 PM | PERMALINK

Oh and another thing: everyone should go home and memorise the name Aboud Gambar. He will be the dictator of Iraq if the Iraqi government does in fact fall.

Posted by: reader on January 12, 2007 at 12:54 PM | PERMALINK

"These are the people running your government."

You missed spelled "ruining".

Posted by: LowLife on January 12, 2007 at 12:55 PM | PERMALINK

Kevin wrote: "These are the people running your government."

Thank you.

It is important for the American people to understand that Cheney is the actual President, and that Bush is a ceremonial figurehead.

Dick Cheney has one and only one goal in Iraq, which is to establish a US-backed puppet government that will hand over control of, and the vast majority of the profits from, Iraq's vast oil reserves to his ultra-rich cronies and financial backers in the US-based multinational oil companies, and that will acquiesce to a permanent, large-scale US military presence to enforce that control.

This has been his goal since long before he seized power in the stolen election of 2000, which was actually a bloodless coup.

He is willing to send any number of young Americans to their deaths in Iraq, and to murder any number of innocent Iraqi civilians, in order to accomplish this goal -- for as long as he can get away with it.

This is why the Democrats in Congress must exercise their Constitutional authority -- indeed, their Constitutional duty -- to cut off all further funding for the war in Iraq and require the Cheney/Bush administration to use the funding that is already in the pipeline to bring the troops home immediately.

The Congress must then immediately being proceedings to impeach Cheney and Bush for their deliberate, repeated, elaborate and sickening lies about what they knew at the time to be a nonexistent "threat" from nonexistent "Iraqi WMD" and nonexistent "links between Saddam and Al Qaeda", which they used to mislead the American people and the United States Congress into supporting their long-planned war of unprovoked aggression against Iraq, which was a corrupt misuse of the United States military for purposes of private financial gain.

Posted by: SecularAnimist on January 12, 2007 at 1:04 PM | PERMALINK

Bush = Darth Vader, the figure head and the one who goes around representing the Empire.

Cheney = The Emperor, the true source of the evil that befalls the galaxy.

If the American people would realize that we are, in fact, Luke and Obi Wan and Yoda all wrapped into one, we could defeat these assholes.

/geek

Posted by: Unholy Moses on January 12, 2007 at 1:12 PM | PERMALINK

Thanks, Kevin. Laura Rozen always delivers.

Posted by: Apollo 13 on January 12, 2007 at 1:17 PM | PERMALINK

Cheney is W. Bush's Martin Borman.

Posted by: Brojo on January 12, 2007 at 1:24 PM | PERMALINK

Forget any impeachment of Bush; that in and of itself will accomplish nothing.

The head of the snake lies one wrung lower on the ladder. That is where any impeachment effort should be directed.

Posted by: Donald from Hawaii on January 12, 2007 at 1:26 PM | PERMALINK

Sounds like Cheney has a fundamental disdain for the democratic process, which to paraphrase Winston Churchill, is the worst system of government except for all the rest. For those still theorizing over the surge motivation - it was Saudi Arabia. Remember that they summoned Cheney in December, to dress him down for not protecting their Sunni brethren adequately in Iraq. Thats also why we are now going after the Shiite militias. The Saudis also hate Iran, so Dickster had to crank up the "attack Iran" engine. Bush is too dumb to offer any resistance, so here we are. But hey, gasoline prices are down nicely after the Cheney visit, thanks to the Saudis. I filled up this morning and it was $1.98 per gallon!

Posted by: The Conservative Deflator on January 12, 2007 at 1:34 PM | PERMALINK

In principle there is nothing wrong with the people we elected running our government. In fact, that's what our Constitution calls for. Elected officials are supposed to direct the appointed bureaucrats (or "run roughshod" over them, if you like that loaded language).

Kevin's real compaint is that he doesn't agree with the Bush Administration's policies.

Posted by: ex-liberal on January 12, 2007 at 1:34 PM | PERMALINK

"Cheney's Dead-Enders" -- a perfect name for dishonest, delusional neocon stooges like "ex-liberal", not-at-all-ex-minion and their ilk.

Posted by: Gregory on January 12, 2007 at 1:47 PM | PERMALINK
In principle there is nothing wrong with the people we elected running our government. In fact, that's what our Constitution calls for.

Actually, our Consitution calls for three separate branches of government. Cheney, on the other hand, seems to think there's only one: The Executive Branch. And that is Kevin's complaint.

The Constitution is a truly wonderful thing. You should try reading it sometime, because you obviously have no clue of what it says.

Posted by: Unholy Moses on January 12, 2007 at 1:52 PM | PERMALINK

These are the people running your government...

...into the ground.

Posted by: cleek on January 12, 2007 at 1:53 PM | PERMALINK

x-lib: Kevin's real compaint is that he doesn't agree with the Bush Administration's policies.


the number who do agree...

rivals bush's body mass index...

Posted by: Jay Leno on January 12, 2007 at 1:57 PM | PERMALINK

I would have used...wind chill index...

Posted by: David Letterman on January 12, 2007 at 1:58 PM | PERMALINK

"These are the people running your government."

Glad to hear it. You would prefer Kucinich ? Who doesn't know who the al Quds group in Iran is? Or the new House intel chair who doesn't know the difference between Sunni and Shiite ?

Posted by: Mike K on January 12, 2007 at 2:00 PM | PERMALINK

Actually, our Consitution calls for three separate branches of government. Cheney, on the other hand, seems to think there's only one: The Executive Branch. And that is Kevin's complaint.

Oh, "ex-liberal" knew that; he/she/it just never met a dishonest argument he/she/it didn't like.

And in fact, there is much that's wrong with the people who are now running our government.

Fortunately, more and more Americans recognize the mendacity, incompetence and corruption of this Administration, despite -- or dare I say, because of? -- the lame-ass bullshit ptopaganda spewed by liars like "ex-liberal" and his/her/its neocon ilk.

Posted by: Gregory on January 12, 2007 at 2:27 PM | PERMALINK

Actually, I would prefer Al Gore - you know, the guy who actually won the 2000 election.

Posted by: Blue Girl, Red State on January 12, 2007 at 2:28 PM | PERMALINK

Or the new House intel chair who doesn't know the difference between Sunni and Shiite ?

...as opposed to Bush... [rolls eyes]

I think the wood y'all have sprung at the prospect of more war porn in Iran as cut off the air to your brains.

Posted by: Gregory on January 12, 2007 at 2:29 PM | PERMALINK

Cheney, on the other hand, seems to think there's only one:

That's not at all true. It just so happens it appears to be true because he is so much smarter than they. Dick was in fact in the legislature. He know it exists. He understands their function. If you think the legislature is impotent your problem is with them not Cheney.

Posted by: rdw on January 12, 2007 at 2:29 PM | PERMALINK

Remember that they summoned Cheney in December, to dress him down for not protecting their Sunni brethren adequately in Iraq.

Are you sure they didn't summon Dick to Saudi Arabia to ask how low he wanted oil prices? Think aobut it. It's been downhill ever since. We are down more than 25% from highs.

Think about what this does for inflation and the USA economy. It's terrific in every way. We just get richer every day.

Posted by: rdw on January 12, 2007 at 2:35 PM | PERMALINK
You would prefer Kucinich ? Who doesn't know who the al Quds group in Iran is? Or the new House intel chair who doesn't know the difference between Sunni and Shiite ?

How about the new Secretary of Defense who doesn't know anything about Iraq or the military?

If you think the legislature is impotent your problem is with them not Cheney.

Actually, that's why I (and a majority of Americans) voted for change last November -- to give the legislature back some of the vitality it had lost.

Of course, it won't mean squat of Cheney and Co. keep doing what they've been doing for the past six years ... which is pretty much whatever the fuck they want no matter what anyone -- including Congress -- says or does. Which is why they call it the "Unitary Executive" theory.

Posted by: Unholy Moses on January 12, 2007 at 2:36 PM | PERMALINK

Is that ANOTHER new stock market high today? Wow!!!

Did you notice Bill Gates is up another $10B since Mid-December. Did you notice that was right when Dick Cheney was summoned to Saudi Arabia?

Here's a clue. The next time Dick Cheney is summoned to Saudi Arabia sell the house and buy Microsoft.

Posted by: rdw on January 12, 2007 at 2:38 PM | PERMALINK

Laura Rozen is excellent.

We have begun to learn the names and agendas of the tiny group of people who make up Cheney’s power cult. Bush and his Texans are peripheral actors in their more profound revolution. These folks represent the apotheosis of the long authoritarian ascendancy that begins with the imperialism of the McKinley administration, goes from pro-fascism in the 20’s and 30’s to anti-communism and the Birchers in the post-war years to finally congeal in the paranoid criminal presidency of Richard Nixon. The life and opinions of William Randolph Hearst illustrate this arc.

Like many people attracted to the precepts of anti-liberal government Addington and his pupil John Yoo are not interested in any particular issue. Their sole interest is in arbitrary power against Constitutionalism. Others calibrate their policy concerns to the interests of the state of Israel and construct a narrative of democratic ascendancy against Israel’s enemies on a foundation of colonialism and all its complications. Yet others strive to control the region’s oil resources and other lucrative markets. Some just dream of glory.

But none of these people want pure unmitigated democracy and self-determination for the people of the Middle East (and most not for the United States). They are the sworn enemies of human liberty.

Posted by: bellumregio on January 12, 2007 at 2:44 PM | PERMALINK

Which is why they call it the "Unitary Executive" theory.

It's called the shrewed White House. Fret not lad your beloved new Congress will generate tons of heat but little light. Which is all you wanted anyway. Welcome to gridlock, which is not the worst of all worlds. It might have some very positive effects, especially on spending.

As it is the Bush White House has all but guarranteed itself a long bull run on very solid economic growth which will head into the next election cycle on a very nice glide path. GBW will not be turning over a weakening economy headed into recession nor an asset bubble.

He will have remade the military into by far the most powerful in all of history and completely reformated US foreign policy from Euro-centric to Asia-centric. It's an amazing accomplishment. He's removed all troops and 95% of all other personnel from Europe permanently while signing a series of defense agreements with Japan, India, Indonesia, Malaysia and Australia and just as critically a series of trade deals with all of those countries plus Vietnam, South Korea, most of the America's and much of Africa.

Exports have been surging 13% and will continue to offset the recession in housing and autos. It's going to be a much different world for the next President. They will of coures make the required trip to Old Europe to 'repair' relations but the truth is this superifical effort will be the beginning and end of that effort. Intel will be then get 5x's as many sales from Asia than Europe and that's where the President will be focused.

GWB and Cheney come from the business world. Libs think they can stop globalism. Not anymore.

BTW: want to puke? Look at per capital GDP USA versus Europe in 2000 and then in 2006. There's a reason the Europeans hate GWB. They'll hate him even more in 2009. The rich keep on getting richer.

Posted by: rdw on January 12, 2007 at 2:54 PM | PERMALINK

What does history call that kind of man that won't step up to the podium himself, but rules from behind a figurehead?

What will be the legecy of one who had no qualms about subverting a whole nation for his own ends?

Cheney is proof that all the money and power in the world is not enough to satify greed of his caliber. He is getting his and that, according to Republicans, is the American Way.

Posted by: Fat Old Grump on January 12, 2007 at 2:56 PM | PERMALINK

rdw--
You're a paradoy, right? I ask because no way in hell could anyone post this:

As it is the Bush White House has all but guarranteed itself a long bull run on very solid economic growth which will head into the next election cycle on a very nice glide path

and actually be serious.

Posted by: Unholy Moses on January 12, 2007 at 2:59 PM | PERMALINK

rdw wrote: "It's called the shrewed White House."

Are you saying that Laura Bush is actually in charge?

rdw wrote: "Did you notice Bill Gates is up another $10B since Mid-December. Did you notice that was right when Dick Cheney was summoned to Saudi Arabia?"

Have pity on rdw. He suffers from irreversible senile dementia.

Posted by: SecularAnimist on January 12, 2007 at 3:00 PM | PERMALINK

Unholy Moses: Actually, our Consitution calls for three separate branches of government. Cheney, on the other hand, seems to think there's only one: The Executive Branch. And that is Kevin's complaint.

Actually Kevin's quote of Laura Rozen's complaint is "...enabling Cheney to make end-runs around the bureaucracy..."

Many in Washington believe that the bureaucracy is wiser than the elected officials in the Bush Administration. Maybe they are. Nevertheless, the bureaucrocy is not a branch of the government. Constitutionally they're part of the Executive branch, so they should defer to the President.

Posted by: ex-liberal on January 12, 2007 at 3:03 PM | PERMALINK
Many in Washington believe that the bureaucracy is wiser than the elected officials in the Bush Administration. Maybe they are.

I'd bet a million dollars that they are ... well, except for the clueless hacks Bush has appointed.

Your point, however, is correct and I misread the point. I apologize.

Oh ... and for rdw:

Jobs created under Reagan: 9.5 million
Jobs created under Clinton: 17.6 million
Jobs created under Dubyah: 3.7 million

Yep. Wonderful economy there for the regular folks. Simply splendid.

Posted by: Unholy Moses on January 12, 2007 at 3:09 PM | PERMALINK

Many in Washington believe...

"Hi, I'm "ex-liberal", and this is my straw man..."

Posted by: Gregory on January 12, 2007 at 3:29 PM | PERMALINK

Unholy Moses wrote: "Yep. Wonderful economy there for the regular folks. Simply splendid."

rdw doesn't care about "regular folks". All he cares about is being able to watch "Lifestyles of the Rich and Greedy" on his widescreen HD TV.

In his mind -- which you must understand is, sadly, afflicted with irreversible senile dementia -- that is the "triumph of capitalism": the ultra-rich get ever richer, and the rest of us get to watch them on cheap widescreen HD TVs, made by sweatshop labor in China, and sold at Wal-Mart.

Once the ultra-rich finally own everything, instead of almost everything, then they will no longer need the "consumer economy" to generate "wealth" for them, and the rest of us will be allowed to die off in the famines caused by global warming, while the ultra-rich party on in their nuclear-powered domed communities protected from the starving masses by their mercenary armies.

That's the future that rdw is cheerleading for.


Posted by: SecularAnimist on January 12, 2007 at 3:30 PM | PERMALINK

Yep. Wonderful economy there for the regular folks. Simply splendid.
Posted by: Unholy Moses

Hey, it's like the president himself said:

    "This is an impressive crowd - the haves and the have-mores," quipped the GOP standard-bearer. "Some people call you the elites; I call you my base."

Posted by: cyntax on January 12, 2007 at 3:33 PM | PERMALINK

Yep. Wonderful economy there for the regular folks. Simply splendid.

Yes it is! Your data is wrong but still makes my point. The USA is a job creating machine and the 8th wonder of the world. Go look up the job creation data for Old Europe and see why they hate us.

The fact is Old Europe is chocking on our dust. They've been growing BELOW the global average for two decades. We've been growing at or above ever since 1981. That's why our share of Global GDP is up while Old Europe is slipping and will continue to slip.

This is why they've been cutting defense spending and struggling to maintain welfare state demands. By now we all know their disasterous demographics mean they cannot possibly survive as Old Europe.

Think about it. In the 90's they could not touch Milosovich, a 4th rate thug. They're even weaker now. The USA has continued to invest quite heavily in the military, especially R&D. We can do so because we are economically strong. another new stock market high means we remain strong. If you compound this out it's just gets more pathetic. We get richer. They get poorer. And it's compounding.


Posted by: rdw on January 12, 2007 at 3:37 PM | PERMALINK

That's the future that rdw is cheerleading for.

I could never be a lib. How do you stand the nonstop misery? You must get suicidal.

Posted by: rdw on January 12, 2007 at 3:39 PM | PERMALINK

He is getting his and that, according to Republicans, is the American Way

No, that is smarts.

No one can suffer like a lib can suffer. Do you people keep crosses in your basements so you can nail yourself up every week?

Or can't you afford basements?

Posted by: rdw on January 12, 2007 at 3:42 PM | PERMALINK

Not miserable enough? Check this out. Microsoft is up another $.60 today. Gates made another $1B.

Posted by: rdw on January 12, 2007 at 3:43 PM | PERMALINK

rdw wrote: "I could never be a lib."

Now that I understand that you suffer from irreversible, progressive senile dementia, I have nothing but pity for you.

Posted by: SecularAnimist on January 12, 2007 at 3:46 PM | PERMALINK

High Expectations?

or

Gridlock?

Senate Democrats backed off promises to reform pork spending yesterday, using procedural tactics similar to ones they attacked Republicans for employing in past Congresses.
Majority Leader Harry Reid, Nevada Democrat, stalled a vote on a Republican amendment that would require full disclosure of the spending provisions, also known as earmarks. The maneuver – which continued through last night and into today – gives Mr. Reid time to turn Democrats against the measure, which is similar to the ethics rules adopted with much fanfare last week by the new Democrat-led House.

Posted by: rdw on January 12, 2007 at 3:48 PM | PERMALINK

Cheyney has always been a force.

Who else would be asked to lead a VP search committee and then realize that being VP has
it's perqs and pick himself?

The energy policy meetings.

The no-bid contracts to Iraq-rebuilding
contractors.

Privatizing gov'ment is the Americheyney way!

Secret Bunker.

Can anyone imagine Spiro Agnew wielding such clout?

Cheyney balances George's fantasies, and benefits
directly from the fantasizer in chief.

The real drag is that the Executive Branch has become it's own Tree, forgetting that our nation was forged as a balancing act.

Posted by: Tom Nicholson on January 12, 2007 at 3:52 PM | PERMALINK
You would prefer Kucinich ? Mike K at 2:00 PM
Thank you, yes. Neither Dennis nor Al Gore would not have lied to the American people to justify an illegal and otherwise unsaleable war. If you will recall, it was Bush who flunked a radio announcer's test, the same Bush you work so hard for today.
We are down more than 25% from highs…. rightist dim wit at 2:35 PM
Not quite. Fuel Prices Still Up

Experts are at a loss to explain rising gasoline costs in California, but some expect relief soon.
By Martin Zimmerman and Ronald D. White, Times Staff Writers January 11, 2007

Unseasonably warm weather pushed oil prices to their lowest levels in 19 months Wednesday, but the inconvenient truth for California motorists is that gasoline prices haven't fallen in tandem.
...
Gas prices in the Golden State, meanwhile, have risen steadily since early November and are at their highest level — an average of $2.632 a gallon statewide — since Oct. 2

Here is the most current inflation rates. Note, inflation is currently trending down do to decreasing home prices.

…Is that ANOTHER new stock market high today… rightist dim wit at 2:38 PM

To make up for inflation since the previous high, the market will have to attain 13000+.
….The rich keep on getting richer....Your data is wrong rightist dim wit at 2:54 PM

That is called rising income inequality, and the data is correct, your spin not based on empirical data but on wishful thinking.


Posted by: Mike on January 12, 2007 at 4:00 PM | PERMALINK

Experts are at a loss to explain rising gasoline costs in California

total nonsense. The experts know exactly why CA is so screwed up. The eco-freaks require special blends only a few refineries can provide.

CA is gods gift to conservatives. I love the fact they're funding stem cell research and a ton of different alternative energy projects. The pay the bill but we all benefit. I think borrowing to fund embroyic stem cell research is brain dead when adult stem cells are so much more promising as well as amniotic stem cells but if CA wants to throw money at empryonic stem cells may God bless them. They can't borrow too much or me.

Posted by: rdw on January 12, 2007 at 4:08 PM | PERMALINK

NEW DOW RECORD

Posted by: rdw on January 12, 2007 at 4:10 PM | PERMALINK

rdw had one of the last ice pick lobotomies legally performed in the US.

Posted by: Disputo on January 12, 2007 at 4:11 PM | PERMALINK

Note, inflation is currently trending down do to decreasing home prices.

I know. Consensus is for a drop from 3.3% to 2.0% inflation in 2007 which is a very nice level.

These forecasts were made BEFORE crude dropped 25% and many other commodities as well. This is hard for you to understand but the fact crude futures fell yesterday doesn't mean anything for wholesale or retail YET. Apparently few libs but most children understand this. I'll explain. IN a few weeks retail prices will be much lower. Unleaded that cost $2.38 in NJ two weeks ago will be $1.98 in two weeks.

It will start to show up in inflation data a few months later. Meaning economists will soon be revising their inflation estimates DOWN.

This is one reason why the DOW is at record levels. This is one reason why the great economic recovery after the supply-side tax cuts in 03 will continue at least thru 2008. We've got surging exports offsetting weak housing and autos and a very strong service sector.

Also extremely bullish for the 07 and 08 forecast is much stronger than expected hiring and income growth. 2007 will be another year of very strong consumer spending and Corporate profits. With record capital gains, incomes, profits Federal tax receipts will continue to surge further reducing the budget deficit.

The American economy is sinmply amazing. It was just amazing in the 3rd Qtr with shocks from a housing recession and an auto recession GDP still grew 2% or 4x's levels in France and Germany.

Those poor bastards can't get out of their own way.

Posted by: rdw on January 12, 2007 at 4:25 PM | PERMALINK

gotta love OPEC.

They announced production cuts of 1.2M over 6 months ago. They then anounced another cut of 500K effective 1/1/07. Except they've only cut 0.5M of the original 1.2M.

They're addicted to the cash. That's why JP Morgan just cut their 07 and 08 forecasts to $52 a barrel.

Posted by: rdw on January 12, 2007 at 4:29 PM | PERMALINK

Disputo,

Why does good news bother libs? Why aren't you celebrating Americans getting wealthier? Over 55% of Americans are invested in stocks and when we get consistent records like this the number always jumps.

As Larry Kudlow says, "We are an investor society". Don't you think this is a good thing?

Posted by: rdw on January 12, 2007 at 4:31 PM | PERMALINK

It was just amazing in the 3rd Qtr with shocks from a housing recession and an auto recession GDP still grew 2% or 4x's levels in France and Germany.

Ok, I don't mind using Gregory's line:

You are LYING as usual.

Growth in the German economy last year was 2.5%.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/fn/4462972.html

And on top of spreading falsehoods - wtf does this have to do with the topic of this thread?!?

Posted by: trex on January 12, 2007 at 4:37 PM | PERMALINK

Like I said, rdw is suffering the effects of an ice pick lobotomy. He thinks that regurgitating the news from the Business section, mixed with an ample dose of lies, counters everything Drum writes.

Posted by: Disputo on January 12, 2007 at 4:49 PM | PERMALINK

trex wrote: "And on top of spreading falsehoods - wtf does this have to do with the topic of this thread?!?"

rdw suffers from irreversible, progressive senile dementia. That's why he is delusional, and incoherent, and prone to repetitive, irrelevant rants. He is a sad and pitiable character.

Posted by: SecularAnimist on January 12, 2007 at 4:50 PM | PERMALINK

Cool. Now SA and I can battle over rdw's diagnosis.

Posted by: Disputo on January 12, 2007 at 4:53 PM | PERMALINK

Okay ... I'm new around here, but can someone verify for me that "rdw" stands for "really delusional wingnut"?

And trex -- I've had a hand in getting him/her/it on this tangent. I honestly thought it was a parody poster, but I guess not. The Kool-Aid is strong in this one ...

And it's just further proof that discussing almost anything with people like rdw is about as productive as discussing quantum physics with a half-retarded schnauzer.

Posted by: Uhholy Moses on January 12, 2007 at 4:54 PM | PERMALINK

The pay the bill but we all benefit.

And thus rdw sums up the conservatives' creed.

Posted by: Gregory on January 12, 2007 at 5:01 PM | PERMALINK

Growth in the German economy last year was 2.5%.

You are a moron. I said the 3rd Qtr and 2006 Growth has not been reported for ANY country yet.

Either you are a liar or stupid, most likely both.

Posted by: rdw on January 12, 2007 at 5:26 PM | PERMALINK

the topic of this thread

Cheney is the topic of this thread. I am pointing few libs have any idea of just how radically Dick and George have reordered the world.

Old Europe is just that, old.

Posted by: rdw on January 12, 2007 at 5:28 PM | PERMALINK

on top of spreading falsehoods

New Dow high is NOT a falsehood.

Posted by: rdw on January 12, 2007 at 5:29 PM | PERMALINK

I said the 3rd Qtr and 2006 Growth has not been reported for ANY country yet.

Tell it to the Germans. From my link:

Gross domestic product in Europe's largest economy grew 2.5 percent in 2006, the Federal Statistics Office, or Destatis, reported, the best since a 3.5 percent peak in 2000.

So you can see, you do not know what you are talking about.

Posted by: trex on January 12, 2007 at 5:36 PM | PERMALINK

He is a sad and pitiable character

Are you kidding me. I am a Reagan conservative. Sad is not in my vocabulary.

Posted by: rdw on January 12, 2007 at 5:37 PM | PERMALINK

Unholy Moses wrote: "... discussing almost anything with people like rdw is about as productive as discussing quantum physics with a half-retarded schnauzer"

It's not nice to make fun of the afflicted.

I admit that I have mocked rdw in the past. That was before I realized that he is actually diseased.

Now I recognize that his complete disconnect from reality, his randomly irrelevant comments, his compulsive, repetitive harping on bizarre fixations such as the evils of "old Europe", the "stupidity" of liberals, and the "genius" of George W. Bush, are symptoms of a mental degeneration that is deserving of pity, not derision, and which while they may (one hopes) be responsive to medical intervention, are certainly not going to be responsive to facts or reason.

Posted by: SecularAnimist on January 12, 2007 at 5:40 PM | PERMALINK

SA--
That was one of the most wonderful explanations of troll behavior I've ever seen.

**Stands and claps**

Posted by: Uhholy Moses on January 12, 2007 at 5:46 PM | PERMALINK

rdw wrote: "I am a Reagan conservative. Sad is not in my vocabulary."

I didn't mean that you feel sad yourself.

I meant that I feel sadness and pity when I witness your deteriorating mental state.

If you feel happy in your irreversible decline into delusion and incoherence, then I suppose that is merciful.

And it makes it poignantly appropriate that you call yourself a "Reagan conservative".

Posted by: SecularAnimist on January 12, 2007 at 5:48 PM | PERMALINK

Unholy Moses wrote: "That was one of the most wonderful explanations of troll behavior I've ever seen."

I don't think it's true of the other "trolls".

Most of them are just weak-minded, ignorant, dittohead mental slaves, reciting the talking points that are spoon-fed to them by Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, Powerline, and the rest of the corporate-funded right-wing extremist propaganda machine.

But rdw is a special case. I think he is genuinely deranged.

Posted by: SecularAnimist on January 12, 2007 at 5:52 PM | PERMALINK

>...worldview of a powerful presidency unchecked by the legislative branch,

Bush/Cheney and their minions are complete fools. They act as if the PRESIDENCY is itself alive and needs to be powerful. As if once they leave office their "powerful" presidency will live on after them.

That's idiocy. They have no idea what the presidency truly is.

In fact,as of now, the presidency isn't powerful at all. It's weak, and it's weak because of the people in the presidency.

Everything Bush as done can be undone by the next president.

The next president will decide how He/She wants to run the presidency. (I'd cancel everything Bush has done in the first hour.)

It's hard under the American constitutional system to have a dictator type leader. (But you sure can try; like Bush has done. He should have been impeached at least a half-dozen times.)

That was one of the ideas the Founding Fathers wanted to knock down.

The idea of a powerful presidency only works for people who will be "leaders-for-life".

Bush is out in two years; And already running a weak presidency.

Probably be more accurate to say Bush is running an ILLEGAL presidency.

Shakespeare was right: "What fools these moratls be!"

Posted by: James on January 12, 2007 at 6:45 PM | PERMALINK
…I am pointing few libs have any idea of just how radically Dick and George have reordered the world…Old Europe is just that, old rightist dim wit at 5:28 PM
The political power grabbing, warmongering, and deliberate attempts to vitiate government agencies and American laws are indeed extremely radical and are well-recognized by the people commenting in these threads. It is you who doesn't how un-American this administration is. Your other complaint is a meaningless statement. The entire earth is 4.5 billions years old. Compared to the Middle East, European civilization is young. Your claims that the American economy is being reordered is utter nonsense as every economic claim you have every made is easily refuted. Here is a tome that should help you on economics Posted by: Mike on January 12, 2007 at 7:05 PM | PERMALINK

Mike wrote to rdw: "Your other complaint is a meaningless statement."

Everything rdw writes is meaningless drivel. It is just the incoherent babbling of a mind sadly diseased by irreversible, progressive senile dementia.

In his case, that's what "Reagan conservative" means.

Posted by: SecularAnimist on January 12, 2007 at 7:10 PM | PERMALINK

Interesting--when the vice president was defense secretary during Bush 41's war--it was said that they barely consulted joint chiefs of staff while committing troops to Saudi Arabia, General Powell was said to learn of it as he returned to the US from the Middle East, and a foreign editor had reported their vision as if they were looking through a "rifle sight"--with no consideration of factors of culture, history, issues with the region or possible adverse long term effects.
That was then, and it is as it is now...same players, same (tunnel) vision.

Posted by: consider wisely always on January 12, 2007 at 7:51 PM | PERMALINK

If a Dem wins in 2008, there needs to be a massive house cleaning throughout to get rid of these clowns.

Posted by: bakho on January 12, 2007 at 8:47 PM | PERMALINK

Don't quit your day job, RDW--all of what you've posted above is in exact opposition to the advice I've gotten from my financial advisors.

I think I know whose advice I am going to follow, given your previous track record.

Posted by: grumpy realist on January 13, 2007 at 2:31 AM | PERMALINK

Everything rdw writes is meaningless drivel. It is just the incoherent babbling of a mind sadly diseased by irreversible, progressive senile dementia. In his case, that's what "Reagan conservative" means.
Posted by: SecularAnimist

On the plus side, the senility makes his opposition to stem cell research the more ironic.

Posted by: Nads on January 13, 2007 at 4:16 AM | PERMALINK

Guys, please don't feed the trolls.

Posted by: Adrasteia on January 13, 2007 at 8:08 AM | PERMALINK

Here are a few indications of road our new majority is taking us down. The next two years are going to be fun to watch hypocritical meltdown.


"January 12, 2007 -- WASHINGTON - Condoleezza Rice came under a shocking Democratic attack yesterday - as a childless woman who cant understand the sacrifices made by families of U.S. troops in Iraq. In a bitter personal assault on the secretary of state during her appearance before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, anti-war Sen. Barbara Boxer fumed that Rice didn't com prehend the "price" of the war.
"You're not going to pay a particular price, as I under stand it, with an immediate family," Barbara Boxer (D- Calif.) ranted


"In June of 2005, between the 23rd of the month and the 30th, 39 agents of American Income Life Insurance each donated $1,000 to Nancy Pelosi's PAC to the Future (Source: OpenSecrets.org). That is $39,000, in a week, from 39 different people who are agents of the same company in many different States - and everyone is certain that this was just coincidence..." - GOPAC


And by the way:

Why haven't impeachment proceedings started?

Where is my full coverage health care?

And does Jimmy Carter still have friends, besides Al Qaeda?

Posted by: Jay on January 13, 2007 at 8:56 AM | PERMALINK

the senility makes his opposition to stem cell research the more ironic.

I am not opposed to stem cell research. As I pointed out I am quite happy the folks in sunny California have decided to fund it. This just proves for the trillianth time the stupidy of socialism. The last thing we need is Govmmt dorks picking research projects for political purposes and that's all this is.

It's not even close to promising. Recent efforts prove the opposite. They're toxic. Adult stems are dramatically more promising. So what do we get with socialist all the time? Take the money away from the promising research and put it in the nonsense.

If you people had a clue the USSR would be Eden. It was a friggin castrophy.

Posted by: rdw on January 13, 2007 at 9:21 AM | PERMALINK

you've posted above is in exact opposition to the advice I've gotten from my financial advisors.

No kidding. So your advisors told you to stay out of the US markets while they were moving up 20%?

You've got it nails. Wait until markets are ready to hit 35 new highs in 60 days and sell everything right before. That's the ticket!

Posted by: rdw on January 13, 2007 at 9:23 AM | PERMALINK

Compared to the Middle East, European civilization is young.

That's an apt comparison. Old Europe lost the ability to innovate 2 decades ago and the Middle East never have the ability to innovate. Both are economic wrecks. Without oil the middle east wouldn't be able to feed itself.

Posted by: rdw on January 13, 2007 at 9:26 AM | PERMALINK

Your claims that the American economy is being reordered is utter nonsense

Actually I was talking about US foreign policy. All US troops and support personnel have been permanently removed from Old Europe and most of the bases closed and returned to the host country. We are expanding elsewhere.

That's a permanent shift.

Two years ago the State dept announced a major reorganization of foreign based personnel downsizing in Old Europe and closing some consolates while opening many more in India, the Middle East and elsewhere. The list of desired languages was also revised and as you've already guessed French isn't close to the top. Does youe kid want to work in the state dept and get an overeas posting? Here's a clue. Don't waste your time on French in High School or College.

That's a permanent shift.

As far as economics it's really quite simple and obvious. You can look it up yourself in two minutes. Go into intel.com and look for the financial statements. They post revenues by geographic region. At one time Sales to Europe were much higher than sales to Asia. Today sales to Asia are 4x's the sales to Europe and by 2010 will be 5x's and by 2015 will be 6x's.

The last 3 announcements for new multi-billion dollar plants have been in India, Vietnam and China.

It's really not all that hard. You've heard the saying, "follow the money"? Well if you do you won't be going to Old Europe.

American multinationals planted their flags in Asia some time ago. The State and defense depts must follow. It's the American way. You can whine and cry all you want but you can't stop it any more than you can stop the rain.

George and Dick know business. It is what it is. We're not going to get stuck there again. There's no profit in it.

Posted by: rdw on January 13, 2007 at 9:56 AM | PERMALINK

there needs to be a massive house cleaning throughout to get rid of these clowns.

What do you think they can do? The world has changed dramatically. GWB has signed over 200 trade and military treaties around the world. Our exports are surging a mind-boggling 14%. We are becoming more inter-twined in Asia in ways we never were in Old Europe.

US public opinion for the EU and UN is in the toilet and it's not getting out. You've got to know the conservative media and GOP congress has been going easy on the UN because GWB is President. When you get a Dem President the 1st thing the GOP Senate and house will do is mount a campaign to cut our dues to the UN and use them as a punching bag. It's a political gift. Everyone hates the UN and there's so much corruption they'll be able to find a new scandal every week.

Did you know France voted against the US in a majority of security council votes in the 90's? Little known facts like that will become common knowledge once the war on the UN starts.

Jesse Helms made his living beating up on the UN. Conservative Senators will be lined up to follow his example.

Do you really think a new President of either pary is going to reverse the progress with India? With trade surging over 20%? Of course not.

Do you think a new President will back out of the series of R&D agreements with Japan and others on Star Wars development? When North Korea has missles that can reach LA?

Please do!!!!!

The next President will be a bureaucrat like Clinton when compared to Bush.

Posted by: rdw on January 13, 2007 at 10:07 AM | PERMALINK

The Washington Post for Saturday carries a front page puff piece on behalf of Senator John McCain by Dan Balz and Shailagh Murray. The article is a gift that hands Senator McCain an opportunity to answer in a single forum for his support of escalation of the Iraq War and the article soft pedals the position of his critics. The Post thus ingratiates itself with the McCain organization and undoubtedly will benefit with a few 'phone calls down the road.

Not so the photograph that accompanies the article. Here McCain in a facial shot is shown without the pancake makeup he piles on before the kleig lights and he thus is revealed as he is -- a tired, old man. A tired, worn out old man.

A picture is worth a thousand words.

Posted by: art on January 13, 2007 at 12:43 PM | PERMALINK

Cheney will have his chance along with his buddy Scooter next week to tell more lies which this administration of fools is good at.

Posted by: Al on January 13, 2007 at 3:04 PM | PERMALINK

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The federal deficit has improved significantly in the first three months of the new budget year, helped by a continued surge in tax revenues.
In its monthly budget report, the Treasury Department said Friday that the deficit from October through December totaled $80.4 billion, the smallest imbalance for the first three months of a budget year since The budget year ends Sept. 30.

Tax collections are running 8.2 percent higher than a year ago while government spending is up by just 0.7 percent from a year ago. Last year's spending totals were boosted by significant payments to help the victims of the Gulf Coast hurricanes.

The Treasury said for December, the government actually ran a surplus of $44.5 billion, the largest surplus ever recorded in December and a gain that reflected a big jump in quarterly corporate tax payments.

The $80.4 billion deficit for the first three months of the current budget year was down 32.6 percent from the imbalance for the same period a year ago of $119.4 billion

Posted by: rdw on January 13, 2007 at 6:31 PM | PERMALINK

Federal receipts (measured in contant dollars) were less in 2004 than 2000

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/TaxFacts/Tfdb/TFTemplate.cfm?DocID=200&Topic2id=20&Topic3id=23

Tax revenues hit "all-time highs" on a regular basis because the economy is constantly growing.

Like home ownership.

Revenues hit "all-time highs" under Clinton too.

Clinton had "all time highs" in Federal tax revenues 8-years in a row, before and after Republican congresses, before and after tax increases.

however....

Federal tax revenues FELL in 2001, AGAIN in 2002, and DOWN even more in 2003. That hasn't happened since the GREAT DEPRESSION.


"Income tax receipts are still less than they were in 2000." - Ben Stein on Fox 6/17/06


budget deficits?

2005 - $318 billion

2006 - $256 billion

meanwhile...

the national debt hit a new record high of 8.6-trillion in december...


Posted by: mr. irony on January 14, 2007 at 8:08 AM | PERMALINK

The most common type of mesothelioma is the pleural mesothelioma. The pleura is a thin membrane found between the lungs and the chest cavity. It provides a lubricated surface so that the lungs do not chafe against the chest walls. Thus, a pleural mesothelioma is often referred to as a "lung" cancer.

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