Pelosi?

Coolidge?

Does this mean that Sciafe won't give money to the three musketeers? Will he now give money to HRC? Or is he just giving up trying to trash Democrats?

"Bill Clinton's #1 attack dog..." You mean Buddy, the Labrador retriever?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddy_%28dog%29

Scaife my be gambling that for Democratic primary voters who are aware of him, his acceptance of Hilary would be more damaging to her than anything he could accomplish by opposing her.

A lot of politics is timing. Hillary didn't go for the presidency in 2004, letting Kerry take one for the team by running against Bush while his post-9/11 aura was still not entirely dissipated. Now that even Richard Mellon Scaife can't stomach the chimp, she's hitting at just the right time.

The Clinton name looks better now than it has in years. Plus she's unlikely to have the zipper problem Bill had. McCain is both elderly and tied to the boat anchor that is the war in Iraq, while the other potential GOP candidates are looking ever more lightweight. I'm not a Hillary fan, but I have got to hand it to her for choosing the right historical moment to run.

Both sides look tired and worn-out to me. The Bush-Scaife side and the Clinton side.

Let's find some fresh talent.

Does this mean Ruddy is finally giving up the Vince Foster murder conspiracy chase?

Let's find some fresh talent.

Agreed. Hill isn't Bill, so what's the point? Time to move on.

"Clinton wasn't such a bad president," Mr. Ruddy said. "In fact, he was a pretty good president in a lot of ways, and Dick feels that way today."

"Unlike," he went on to say, "that cocksucker Bush, who is undoubtedly the Worst President Ever. Man, what a waste of Dick's money," Mr. Ruddy concluded.

And the flip side to that is that I know have lots of good things to say about Bush Senior.

Billioinaire scum with political aspirations should reenact the final act of Oedipes Rex, but with extreme prejudice.

Of course, I meant Oedipes Puss.

Wow.

Yesterday afternoon my brother was wondering whether Dan Quayle wouldn't actually have been a better president. Kind of pointless, really; most of the dogs I know would have made better presidents.

["I could carve a better man out of a banana."]

Scaife repents. Gee. As for me, I'll accept after he's turned his slime machine on the GOP for oh, say 14 years or so. Say about 2020-21.

Precisely, Not ready. What kind of restitution is Scaife prepared to make? How about starting with an acknowledgement of his responsibility for the catastrophe we find ourselves in today?

Of no substance, but merely an observation on the writing: Bill Clinton's #1 attack dog during the 1990s was reclusive wingnut zillionaire Richard Mellon Scaife. reads as if this Scaife person worked for Mr. Clinton, as the possessive indicates. Perhaps you might revise to read No. 1 anti-Clinton attack dog or something clearer.

The Lounsbury
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As long as sprawl-king Bob Perry is still shovelling money into negative ads, swift-boaters, dirty tricksters, etc., the situation is not improved one bit.

Richard Mellon Scaife repents?

I know of this bridge that connects Oakland and San Francisco. I hear it is for sale. All you have to do is pay me $1,000,000 dollars. I'll broker the deal. Then all you......

Don't believe this shit. Scaife is just doing what he can to encourage a Hillary victory in the primary. I would bet his slime machine is already working overtime inventing new ways to trash her.

Ah, Kevin.

So some liberal elitist gazillionaire, the type that admonishes the rest of us about global warming and turning off all the lights and reading by candlelight and only flush the toilet once a week while he's off jetsetting to his New York establishment parties, says Bill Clinton was a good president (LOL!) and that's proof that Bush is the worst president ever?

Ladies and gentelment, the perverse workings of the liberal mind for your consideration.

Is an English translation of egbert's post available?

*How about starting with an acknowledgement of his responsibility...*

I think he just did.

I don't go so far as to call it 'repentance', nor do I jump off the cliff with egbert and call it 'proof' of anything, but the tone is certainly there.

Norm, your egbert parody is getting old.

Ron Byers on February 19, 2007 at 6:53 AM

That's my opinion, too. Scaife repents? Bah humbuggery!

I'd guess that Scaife is worried that Hillary might win. Oh, the retribution she could mete as president with a Dem Congress. Heh.

FWIW, Scaife is a more interesting character than most folks realize. Granted, he is pretty much exactly what he appears to be, especially his support for anti-immigration causes and the nearly unbelievably irresponsible (not to mention unpatriotic) attacks on Clinton.

But he is the kind of guy in (nearly) public life who is impossible to capture in journalism; he needs to be a character in literature.

His family's money is the Mellon fortune -- as in everything from Cape Hatteras to the National Galleries of Art to the publishing houses that have cranked out a considerable chunk of American culture in recent decades. Bill Gates would have to go a century to even come close to the impact the Mellons have had on America.

But I gather from friends who know him that his mom married somebody the (sniff) family did not approve of, on whom they looked down -- and I am told his whole 'tude is a reaction to that, to a considerable degree.

Somebody should do a Citizen Kane on the guy -- especially with the wit that Welles brought to the first one.

The issue is not that there are guys like Scaif - if you think guys like him are not a dime a dozen, you're crazy.

The issue is the "MSM" repeating anything someone like them says.

The MSM hasn't repented at all.

Read your Daily Howler!

Scaife that slimey bastard and his limey cohort are two of the most lying bastards... Richard Mellon Scaife almost singlehandidly funded the rise of the farright in our American culture...at least $100 mill he has given out himself...from the heritage foundation to the american spectator - this guy has propped em all up...he's the worst of the worst...and personally I like to believe the rumor that he offed his own wife...(hell - theres a lot more evidence there than Ruddy's Vince Foster obsession)...Bastards both! F em forever! The only person I hate more on this planet than him is his puppet Ralphie boy!

I've got to agree w/Lounsberry; the phrase "G.W.H. Bush's attack dog" would immediately call to mind Lee Atwater, a dog who attacked Bush's foes and answered to Bush, not a dog that attacked Bush.

The opening line makes it look as though Scaife was a rabid partisan on Clinton's behalf, not an anti-Clinton zealot.

The story does put Shrub in the proper perspective, though, doesn't it? Hell, he's managed to make NIXON look good...

The swift-boating machine is alive and well, being kept well-oiled and humming by numerous caretakers. The idea that it may be turned down a notch in the coming 18 months is naive. Pure, personal, irrational, absolute and unmovable HATRED of Hillary is well entrenched in the tiny minds of the Coulter/Malkin/O'Reilly/Hannity-worshipping, I-couldn't-have-an-original-thought-or-question-what-Fox-News-tells-me-if-my-life-depended-on-it, willfully oblivious, die-hard social conservative, we-would-NEVER-vote-for-a-LIBERAL ELITE-from-the-Northeast red staters. This is why she is, quite simply, NOT ELECTABLE. And unless and until the Democratic PTBs stop listening only to what they want to hear, and find somebody whose boat hull is torpedo-resistant, we can all start bracing ourselves for continued Republican rule until 2016, at least. Do you think the American body count in Iraq will have surpassed Vietnam by then? We'll have the delusional "maybe they won't go after Hillary" crowd to thank.

I hear that Ralph Nader is considering running for President again, so he'll take all the blame for President McCain. The "maybe they won't go after Hillary" crowd will get off scott-free.

Lord Lounsbury does have a legtimate point - However, should not you use "as though" instead of "as if", as well.

Indeed, this site needs more pedantic thought.

Ah, The Earl of Schaife, recants - But, will his paid minions, such as the many trools who afflict this site, receive the message?

Revanch and Larry - Get a clue willya!?

No matter who the Dems put - no matter WHO - the right will go after them with money, hate and gusto - theres just too much at stake! Money, Prestige, Power. Lordie! Do you actually think that they will lighten up for Obama or Edwards, or Joe or whoever...how about Clark? Think they'll give him a pass? Jeeze! The only people that have ever defeated these bastards are the Clintions and that Is WHY I support Hill and Bill in their efforts to win back the White House from the Junta. People who keep saying - we need a fresh face are deluded - this isnt a political bversion of american idol, lets pick whos most fun - my God I just wish our `SIDE' took this as serious as theirs does.

By the way, if you dont think that Nader was a selfish, deluded spoiler in 2000 - you are a fool. Please look back at an article in TNR in 02 or so about how much of his funding came from Michael Miliken (Carolina anti union textile csar and big friend of Scaifes...I dare you to look at it, I dare ya, dont want to question your cherished beliefs about your own purity ...but Ralph IS A BIG FAKE!)

"As it turns out, though, the story is actually about Hillary Clinton and the fact that the old-time hate brigade just isn't what it used to be." - Kevin

"I hate the Republicans and everything they stand for,..." - Howard Dean 2004

"Democratic National Committee chairman Howard Dean, unapologetic in the face of recent criticism that he has been too tough on his political opposition, said in San Francisco this week that Republicans are "a pretty monolithic party. They all behave the same. They all look the same. It's pretty much a white Christian party."

"The Republicans are not very friendly to different kinds of people," Dean said Monday,..."

The old time hate, and racist brigade is, and always has been, mainly on your side of the aisle Kevin.

President McCain?

That is so last month.

That would explain the bounced check last week. Jay, did yours go through?

I agree with most of the liberal netroots' criticisms of Hillary Clinton, but the American people know that the 92-2000 period was a time of economic prosperity and relative peace. They were the good days. Hillary offers us the opportunity to relive those optimistic years, Bill included. It's as simple as that.

Hillary's moderation has paid off big time. Now Scaife feels safe with her. Whoopdidoo! Maybe he'll give her money.

After all the senseless harm thay did, they should be infinitely more ashamed of themselves than they seem to be.

Hate hate hate.
Gotta get our hate mojo back.
Make a note of that.
And also: Who is this fucking Kevin Drum.
Get the CIA after this asshole.
Find or create some dirt on him.
Put his dossier in the "must-destroy" pile...
Gotta sic Libby on that prick posthaste.
Hate.
Destroy.
Win.
Where's my shotgun?

Assuming Scaife did indeed have a moment of self-reflection it would be nice if he would vow to keep his ideas OUT OF POLITICS from now on.

The old time hate, and racist brigade is, and always has been,

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz......

"Clinton wasn't such a bad president," Mr. Ruddy said. "In fact, he was a pretty good president in a lot of ways, and Dick feels that way today."

Nothing there about Hillary. Bush has a way of engendering nostalgia in the oddest ways--like the numbers of Dems who'll cite Nixon as a bastard but a SMART bastard. Clinton was a pragmatist, and that looks better and better compared to "Deus Vult" Dick Cheney, Grandmaster of the Neocon Knights Templer.

We can expect the authoritarian machine to crank hard. There is plenty of money without Scaife. They should come for Hillary from multiple directions. It is unlikely the sad crop of presidential hopefuls on the Republican side will motivate the Republican base. They should try to motivate the base with Hillary-fear. They know Hillary is not the most liked by grassroots Dems, so they will probably try to get Dems to do a Lieberman on her. If I were doing the Republican scheming I would create a false flag anti-Hillary campaign with the netroots.

Having Richard Mellon-Scaife’s political endorsement is like getting an endorsement for a vegetarian meal from a cannibal. Scaife is an alcoholic pervert, who gave Richard Nixon’s campaign one million dollars, which gives you some sense of his poliical judgement. Scaife also funded The Arkansas Project, a decade-long attempt to smear Bill and Hillary Clinton. In fact, much of the negative feeling that many Americans have towards Hillary can probably be directly traced to Scaife.

An investigative report by the media research group, FAIR, tells you everything you need to know about Scaife:

In the final days of the 2000 presidential campaign, Pittsburgh Tribune-Review publisher Richard Mellon Scaife, a longtime conservative activist, ordered all photographs and prominent mentions of Democratic presidential candidate Al Gore removed from the front page of the paper. As a result, the paper's pre-election Sunday edition had a front page featuring George W. Bush in every campaign-related headline and photograph. A story about a Gore rally held in Pittsburgh, originally slated to run alongside a Bush piece on the front page, was moved to the inside of the paper. According to an account in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette (11/8/00). Tribune-Review managing editor Robert Fryer "tried to dissuade Scaife but was overruled."

Richard Mellon-Scaife = Human sewage.

So the right wing is to be believed when one person states that Scaife doesn't have a problem with Clinton. Yeah, that makes sense.

The possiblity that Scaife likes Clinton is as likely as the corrupt William Jefferson being on the homeland security committee.

oops, I guess anything can happen.

There are billionaire scum who are Democrats. The widow Heinz comes to mind. Yet, the Democratic billionaires do not engage their brothers and sisters in capital in battle for the hearts and minds of the electorate. That should be a warning message to those of us aware of the swiftboaters. The political faction that many have invested their hopes in to save the nation from the Republicans and all of they represent will not provide us with the political solutions we crave.

It's a set-up. The vile 'wingers want Hillary to run because she is such an easy target. If Obama is the front-runner then the 'wingers have to dodge the racism charge.

Wow, somebody could write a book about this absurdity. Oh yeah, Joe Conason and Gene Lyons already have, The Hunting of the President: The Ten-Year Campaign to Destroy Bill and Hillary Clinton . Great book. Still haven’t seen the movie. People who think they comprehend the nastiness (and the craziness) of the right-wing hate machine should read this book, if the have not already.

And who says they don’t have the mojo they used to? They got the money, they got the time, and they still got the gullible, ignorant and hungry audience sitting out there, waiting for their prejudices to be reinforced.

I’d say the jury is still out on the lack of mojo.

Chuck comments: The issue is the "MSM" repeating anything someone like them says.

A lot of truth to that. Who will be this season’s David Gerth? Judith Miller?

Gene Lyons wrote a great book, Fools for Scandal. How effective would Scaife have been in the 80’s and 90’s without the likes of David Gerth and his editors at the New York Times?

Finally, I think many people who see through GWB give him too much credit by simply stating that he is the worst President ever. No other President is even close. Across the board, he is “Far and Away the Worst President Ever Hands Down�.

"The widow Heinz comes to mind"

Thanks, Brojo, for keeping it civil this morning.

It is not in the conservative's best interest to oppose Hillary now. They want her to gain the nomination because even the weakest Republican will beat her easily. They aren't holding their powder and even supporting her (like Murdoch) because they suddenly woke up and decided she wasn't all that bad. That view seems pretty naive. Hillary is the conservative's best chance to retain the WH, regain the congress and grab control of the court for a generation.

No matter how hard you try jim, Carter still holds the title as the worst president in recent history.

If you think GWB is the worst of all time I question whether or not you have actually studied history.

The Bush Derangement syndrome is a hard one to break. I believe you need an intervention.

Just pass the trolls like mhr on by. They suffer from Conservative Correctness... meaning they're out to make mischief, intimidate, and in general just piss liberals off for sport... and some do it for money as the minions of Scaife and like-minded toxic waste dumps.

H/t to Bill Scher for the definition of C.C.

A whole lot of folks apparently have bought into the Rovean message that Hillary Clinton cannot win, that Hillary Clinton will galvanize the Republican base and even that grassroots Democrats don't like Hillary Clinton.

The polls and the crowds bely all that as absolutely uttter nonsense.

The facts of the matter are that Mrs. Clinton is doing extremely well and is well on her way to becoming President of the United States and to carrying a Democratic Congress with her.

Rove is the Moriarty of American politics. Why climb on his bandwagon? Why do his dirty work for him? He and his minions lie, you know. My suggestion is that those folks who want a resounding Democratic victory come November 2008 rinse their minds of Rovean influence, get a grip on the facts of the matter, and climb aboard the bandwagon where they can truly help, not hurt.

That Hillary Clinton can't win is so last month.

bill t: You better take a ride on the reality bus. Maybe visit a Walmart in some swing state or western state and talk to a few folks about Hillary. And as far as Rove, I wouldn't be surprised if he threw a few bucks her way.

I just read the NYT article and my reaction was, If this is true, hell must have frozen over and we didn't notice. I thought Scaife, the original Arch-Mage wingnut, was the last guy who would ever soften on Hillary. Passing strange - are the Republicans just trying to sandbag us? I spend a lot of time in the country Crissy refers to and I don't think a lot of these people have ever forgiven her for her stand-by-your-man and cookie baking cracks.

"No matter how hard you try Orwell, Bush still holds the title as the worst president in recent history."

"If you think Carter is the worst of all time I question whether or not you have actually studied history."

"The Carter Derangement syndrome is a hard one to break. I believe you need an intervention."

Gee, this is fun and, like Orwell, I didn't even have to think.

"Many still prominent liberals labeled Ronald Reagan the worst president ever."

And yet you cannot name a single "still prominent liberal" who actually said anything resembling this. Why is that?

The rest of your post was hilarious, but not worth the trouble to respond to. Clearly, the connection between you and reality is just too tenuous.

Sorry, is Scaife admitting that he's an idiot? Take the first step Richard.

If I were doing the Republican scheming I would create a false flag anti-Hillary campaign with the netroots.
Posted by: bellumregio on February 19, 2007 at 11:00 AM | PERMALINK

I'm just hoping she'll peak early, and a more reasonable Democratic candidate could emerge. Like Bill Richardson. Don't get me wrong - I like Obama, but he seems to suck up to the Christofascists too much. And he's got some pretty extreme positions WRT gun control - which is the main issue that has been absolutely killing the Democrats for the past 20 years.

If you own a picture of Bush looking out the window of AF1 helicopter at the twin towers,you are not allowed to vote.If you own a picture of Bush in his flight suit (stuffed and all) with Mission accomplished,you are not allowed to vote.If you are one of the few who have Clinton hate spittle still stuck to the corners of your mouth you really need to get a life.27% are going to vote for a R no matter what the rest of the 73% are going to vote Dem.

Gingrich, Delay and many other Republicans think a Clinton win is, in their words, "inevitable". Delay put a happy face on it recently by saying it would do the Republican Party good, but it cannot be denied the climate for Republicans has not been as bad in decades.

When Reagan was President, the undisputed Worst President was still Nixon.

Now, however, I think the torch has been passed.

For all of you considering Ron Byers' offer, Be Warned.

You will not be buying that icon of travel posters, the Golden Gate Bridge. That beauty connects San Francisco to pricey Marin County, not to Oakland.

What Byers is offering to sell you is the Bay Bridge, part of which is about to be torn down and replaced, finally, after it was slightly damaged in the World Series Earthquake of 1989.

The Bay Bridge at $1 million is about right, but that amount of money won't get you a two bedroom house in Marin.

As for Scaife repenting, what the hell? A person can cause untold damage to the reputation of this country and its President, allege a murder plot, and cause a congital idiot with a trigger finger to be elected Leader of the Used-to-Be-Free World, and get off with this kind of lame repentance?

"Maybe visit a Walmart in some swing state or western state and talk to a few folks about Hillary." And then find out how many of them actually vote.

No one can predict how Hillary would do in the November '07 election without knowing who her opponent will be. She is outpolling St. John McCain at the moment. America's Mayor is ahead of her, but will the ReThug Faithful vote for a pro-choice, pro-gay-marriage candidate?

Not that I particularly like her (I'm a Richardson fan myself), but I think her steel spine is a necessary attribute of the First Female President.

Now that Scaife has changed his mind, will he be refunding the taxpayers for the money we wasted on Kenneth Starr? It seems like he owes us something.

Cal Gal: With so much at stake, the congress, the court, and the WH; taking a chance on a divisive figure like Hillary is like gambling with your life savings. It's a risk that should be avoided. As for her having a steel spine? I sure would have liked to see her get her back up when any of the outrages perpetrated by this admin in the past 6 years went down. Somehow I missed it. If she really cared about this country she would put her massive ego on ice, pick up her purse and sit her ass down in her Senate seat and produce.

Billionaire scum accept Ms. Clinton because they know their wealth will be secure from redistribution with her presidency. They have nothing to fear from any of the Democratic candidates.

Now you know why modern conservatism is such a joke. Mellon provided and Ruddy spent a fortunate investigating the Clintons and now after seven years all he can do his shrug his shoulders and basically say "I accused him of being a murderer and a traitor and a rapist, but after seven years, he wasn't so bad I guess." Sheesh! I more respect for Dick Morris' Capt. Ahab approach.

Jean Pirro for Senate anyone? Never has a man sucked so many toes and become so famous.

Extradite Rumsfeld: I'm just hoping she'll peak early, and a more reasonable Democratic candidate could emerge.

Editorial suggestion: remove the words "more reasonable" from that sentence.

A rethinking. Really ?

Or is it that Scaife is scared ?

An all-Dem Washington in 2008 or 2010 is not a done deal but a distinct possibility : Dem President, Dem House and Dem Senate with 60+ super-majority.

If that happens, bygones won't be bygones and the Bush years but also the 90s will be thoroughly investigated to assign blame and punish. There will be hell to pay for a lot of Repug operatives and sugar daddies.

In particular, an Hillary presidency would be a nightmare for Scaife. For Hillary, it's personnal and there is no doubt in my mind she would use every bits of the executive power to visit all-out retribution on the "vast rightwing conspiracy" that poisoined the first Clinton presidency. Hell hath no fury as a woman wronged. Actually, that may be the one good reason to elect Hillary.

IMHO, Scaife is simply careful and trying to distance himself from his own shadow.

The New York Times today reports that Hillary Clinton was a hit this morning at South Carolina's Allen University where she spoke to a standing-room only audience. Reports The Times:

"At the town hall, Mrs. Clinton said, 'I believe this presidential election is about breaking barriers — and this is the campaign, and I am the candidate with the experience to break the barriers.'

"She also won a standing ovation by saying, 'I believe one of the great things about America is, anyone can be president, and what it depends upon is the individual. I'm proud to be a woman.'

"Indeed, the audience was ecstatic when she made her standard can-a-woman-win remarks. Strong applause and standing ovations both."

Audience ecstatic. Strong applause. Standing ovations. Folks, it doesn't get much better than that.

Reminds me of a story my dad told. Seems he was on hand at the Kansas City Municipal Auditorian in 1948 on the day before election when Harry S Truman gave his final campaign speech. Dad said Truman brought the crowd of 10,000 to its feet, applauding, stamping their feet, yelling encouragement, generally ecstatic, "Give 'em hell, Harry." Dad said he knew then that Truman would win the next day though the media and conventional wisdom had his opponent far in the lead. Truman indeed won and so did my Dad -- for he put down a few bets the next morning at work and at very good odds. He wasn't a betting man, but he knew a winner when he saw one.

Give 'em hell, Hillary!

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Thats right Bert - Give em' Hill!

There are so many clueless hypocritical idiots out there carrying the Republican weight by viscously attacking Hillary...jeeze...and these are the same folks who keep saying that she isnt enough of a Democrat to lead the Democratic party!? This is so stupid it makes my head hurt! Thankfully, I can console myself by understanding the math of the upcoming primaries and general and realize that these people dont know what theyre talking about. (Question: Do you actually think that the President Clinton would advise her to run if he didnt think they WOULD win - do you actually think your politically smarter than Bill, come' on!)

One more point. Nader will run again in 08 against any Democratic candidate. This will be the 5th straight election he has run as President, nothing can-will stop him, but he will have he same effect he had in 04 - big blah-blah in the media and nothing on election day....there arent that many stupid idiots left who havent learned their lessson after f-ing up the 2000 election. ((Though the few left seem to love to express their unique idiocy with threats to - do it again- in the comment section of certain blogs... f-ing blackmailing phonies)

As it turns out, though, the story is actually about Hillary Clinton and the fact that the old-time hate brigade just isn't what it used to be. It pretty much takes the flip side of yesterday's LA Times story about how the Hillary Swift-boaters are gearing up for action later this year. They're still out there, says David Kirkpatrick, but they don't have the mojo they used to.

Well, it might be that they just don't hate Sen. Clinton as much as they hate (present tense intended) Sen. Kerry. Clinton's health care proposals may have been a mistake, but Kerry's anti-Vietnam war rhetoric was more than just a mistake, it was itself hateful to many people. And since being elected senator, Clinton has not been as anti-military in her rhetoric as Kerry has.

Revanche: Pure, personal, irrational, absolute and unmovable HATRED of Hillary is well entrenched in the tiny minds of the Coulter/Malkin/O'Reilly/Hannity-worshipping,

That is true, but I do not believe it is as deeply felt or widely held as the hatred of Kerry.

Richard Mellon Scaife, the right's #1 sugar daddy, the man probably most responsible for keeping the Clinton scandals going simply by funding those digging the dirt, now saying Bill wasn't a bad president after all? The irony here is so massive I'm surprised it doesn't collapse in on itself and form a black hole.

Oh man, I laughed so hard at this that I nearly spit 7-Up out my nose. Dayum!

but Kerry's anti-Vietnam war rhetoric ... was itself hateful to many people….MatthewRMarler at 9:05 PM

… Carter still holds the title as the worst president in recent history.… Orwell at 11:40 AM |

that may be the one good reason to elect Hillary.

Agreed. Mr. Scaife can begin his rehabilitation by following the example of Oedipus.

"No matter who the Dems put - no matter WHO - the right will go after them with money, hate and gusto"

Repeat until we stop forgetting this. Did being a war vet help Kerry? Nope, he was attacked FOR his service to the country.

As a Pittsburgh area girl, I can say the Scaithe-owned Tribune Review has far less incendiary rhetoric on its editorial page and even publishes letters to the editor calling for the impeachment of Cheney and Bush. Most recently, there was one on valentine's day.