These latest U.S attorneys revelations show more than a White House determined to enforce loyalty to President Bush and entrench partisan Republican hatchet men throughout the DOJ's ranks. Simply put, the Bush White House planned to systematically drive down the turnout of Democrats and independents at the ballot box through an unaccountable campaign against "voter fraud."

For the full story, see:
"THE LINK: GOP Purging Prosecutors - and Voters."

Resignation by the end of the week?

"I never saw any documents..."

I'm not sure that little bit of firewalling will hold up.

This is going to get a lot nastier before it's over.

Was Abu Gonzales mendacious or just incompetent.

This is reminiscent one of the bad jokes about Nixon, "I accept the responsibility, but not the blame."

Yeah, I was following along and thought the same thing, Kevin.

For more on the White House connection and all the latest news, hearings, legal filings and other essential documents on the Bush DOJ prosecutor firings, see:
"The U.S. Attorney Scandal Documents."

Why is he toast? Why would he resign? It's not like the Bush administration has ever been concerned with accountability, or even with public appearances.

Time to award the Medal of Freedom to Gonzales!

Well, there you have it. A Republican takes responsibility (something liberals never do) and it turns out that he did nothing wrong after all. But I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that you liberals won't let it go and just admit that they were fired for gross incompetence. Democrat US Attorneys do a lousy job because they can't accept that the evidence almost invariably points to Democrat criminals.

I want my 5 minutes back from Gonzales.

Gonzales started off saying he took total responsibility, but everything else he said amounts to 'the buck stops with Kyle Sampson.'

But Clinton blah blah blah
--The rightwing.

Just thought I'd get that out of the way right up here at the top.

I loved the evasion and diffusion:

(paraphrasing) "This is a department of 110,000 employess. While I take full responsibility, there is no way that I can know about everything or every conversation in the department."

Yo Dude, this is stuff that happened at the top of your department. These are conversations that, if you weren't aware of... well then you don't deserve to be in that position.

Oh and Gonzo... while you think you "serve at the pleasure of the President".. you don't. You did when you were his attorney, now you serve the American people, whom you pay lip service to.

Cheney is good at doing the "nothing to see here, move along." Gonzo sucks at it.

My management philosophy/style must derive from my Republican heritage:

I take full responsibility, you take the blame.

And Clinton fired 93 US attorneys when he took over as President just so he could fire the Arkansas US attorney who was going to prosecute him for his Whitewater deal and other shenanigans. That's why they called him Slick Willy. *Snicker*

Sheesh. I'm a paralegal working for 4 attorneys, and any one of my bosses could have come up with a better statement than that, with a lot less notice than Gonzales had.

Incompetence, even in their own profession, sure seems to be the trademark of a Bush appointee.

It was like The Usual Suspects..."and poof! he was gone."

I was watching MSNBC, and you couldn't hear the questions, so it's hard to be too sure exactly what the hell happened. But Kevin, you got the tenor of it right. I gather from his answers that none of the questions were about whether the whole Purgegate thing is about Rove trying to suppress the minority vote in 2006 and/or trying to nail Dems and get free passes for Republicans.

It was sad that the MSNBC stuff I watched, there wasn't any mention of why Those Eight were canned, the discussion was all about the process and the legality of the firings and the subsequent congerssional testimony by Gonzalez et al. Nothing about the motives for the firings.

That's the real story, the question of whether this was all about protecting guys like Duke Cunningham, and also about investigating voter fraud, real or imagined.

American Hock - That post was a joke, right?

ALL the fired US Attorneys were Republicans - unless you think they sacrificed that status by refusing to politicize their offices.

The "gross incompetence" dodge has been thrown overboard - you should catch up on your RNC e-mail.

Ignorant and aggressive looks like it's still the winning strategy, eh?

Gone by Easter

There is a LOT more to come...

"Proof depends on who you are. We're looking for a preponderance of evidence, and some people need more of a preponderance than other people." - John Kantner

Mr. Gonzales actually has work to do, rather than humor journalists who want nothing more than to score cheap points for the Democratic party over a few US Attorneys fired for incompetence. It's an act of charity to even give a press conference at all over this non-issue.

Kevin,

There is now an intrade contract on the gonzales resignation (under current events - white house). You guys should put some money down on that- not that I disagree with you about gonzales going down.

"And Clinton fired 93 US attorneys when he took over as President just so he could fire the Arkansas US attorney who was going to prosecute him for his Whitewater deal and other shenanigans."

Too late, Al. DrBB beat you to it. And for the record, I think Al is a bot. Nobody mouths talking points with such rigid slavishness to the GOP party line. Nobody.

Al's da man.

There was nothing he could say to defend himself.

A Chief of Staff is an executive's right arm. A CoS doesn't make decisions independently of his boss. He may interpret his boss's wishes as applied to given real-world facts, but he never strays from the path his boss has personally chosen for the division. People who call into his office abpsolutely must to be able to depend on this: What the CoS says is as authoritative as if it came directly from the boss's lips.

Clinton fired 93 US attorneys when he took over as President

of course, they're political appointments. difference is, these were USAs that bush himself had appointed.

gonzales agreed to be a referral for iglesias, and today he called him "underperforming" (although of course, there's no record of that).

it's all crumbling under your feet, al - from the dukestir to rove to your daddy in the codpiece. glad i'm here to see it.

and my guess was 3/27 for abu to be gone, but after the presser, i revise my estimate to this friday (3/26)

> Gonzales is toast

If and only if the supposedly now-neutral traditional media follows up. We shall see if they do, or if they let it fade away as they have with all other W Administration scandals...

Cranky

110K is a big organization. But he's saying he didn't know the details of the firing of 8 out of 93 of the highest-placed employees in that organization?! Can he really think that'll work?

3/16, that is. ahem.

"A CoS doesn't make decisions independently of his boss." -bob

Good point. Wasn't Iglesias "fired" for delegating too much to HIS CoS? What's good for the goose . . .

Raleigh >"...That's the real story, the question of whether this was all about protecting guys like Duke Cunningham..."

Noooooo, it IS all about what da Dukestir & friends were up to behind the scenes w/the black budget(s), the voting stuff is simply part of a larger game.

We are still in Act I here.

"All men dream, but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds, wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act on their dreams with open eyes, to make them possible." - T.E. Lawrence

Using insider connections to open 'investigations' on your opponent right before an election is one of Rove's oldest tricks. He was doing it in Texas nearly 20 years ago.

Nice to see that facts are considered talking points on this site. Clinton fired 93 US Attorneys and thats fine, Bush fired 9 and the world is coming to an end.

Berlin, what's the "S" for? I have a guess.

Clinton fired Bush I appointees, and Bush II fired the Clinton appointees. All replacements faced Senate confirmation.

So what exactly is your point, BerlinS? Have you one?

Clinton fired 93 US Attorneys and thats fine, Bush fired 9 and the world is coming to an end.

Jesus Berlin, if you're not even going to try...

And Clinton fired 93 US attorneys when he took over as President just so he could fire the Arkansas US attorney who was going to prosecute him for his Whitewater deal and other shenanigans. That's why they called him Slick Willy. *Snicker*

Come on, Al, I already covered that for you upthread. Let's not be redundant, m'kay?

Clinton fired 93 US Attorneys and thats fine, Bush fired 9 and the world is coming to an end.

Karl Rove giving a speech at the Statehouse Convention Center in Little Rock (with emphasis):

Look, by law and by Constitution (sic), these attorneys serve at the pleasure of the president and traditionally are given a four year term. And Clinton, when he came in, replaced all 93 U.S. attorneys. When we came in, we ultimately replace most all 93 U.S. attorneys – there are some still left from the Clinton era in place. We have appointed a total of I think 128 U.S. attorneys....

and again, these were bush appointees. and one of them just happened to be pursuing the biggest congressional corruption scandal in the last 20 years, at least. and another two USAs got calls from members of congress about investigations into democrats. what a coincidence.

I love how Rachel Maddow refers to this guy as: "Attorney General Gonzoles; the torture-guy."

I hope that name stick with him the rest of his miserable, rotten life.

And as TPM also points out, John Edwards was the first candidate to come out and demand Gonzales' resignation. (Just as Edwards was the first to pull out of that bogus FOX Nevada debate.) Now also watch the Repub candidates squirm and say nothing.

Hat's off to Josh Marshall - again.

Nice one, Extradite Rumsfeld! I wonder how it feels knowing you can't travel to certain countries lest you be arrested as a war criminal?

Blue Girl, Red State (aka Global Citizen) >"Clinton fired Bush I appointees, and Bush II fired the Clinton appointees..."

Uhhhh, you left off the part where Bush II fired some of the Bush II appointees

Another instance of them eating their own (too much pressure folks ?)

"Our ignorance is not so vast as our failure to use what we know." - M. King Hubbert

Well, i don't want the world to end or anything...

Mr. Gonzales actually has work to do… American Vawk at 2:52 PM

Let him twist slowly, slowly in the wind.

ah: non-issue

that means no one died...

yet..

The irony is that if they had followed Meirs' advice, and demanded the resignations of all 93 USAs, they'd be in a much stronger position now. It would have been easier to camouflage what they were up to -- replacing the guys who refused to play political ball plus a few incompetent hacks in order to make everything look more kosher.

LOL. I guess you don't become managing partner of a large corporate law firm without learning a few tricks.

The link from the TPMMuckraker Rove post about the purge (lots of other goodies there) ...and this interesting Update from TPMm Reader (and Washington lawyer) PF:

Taking things sequentially in his statement, the notion that "U.S. Attorneys serve at the pleasure of the president" is true, but irrelevant in this context. Congress is not investigation whether the President has the legal authority to fire these USAs -- it is investigating what factors the President permits to influence his judgment. It is one thing to say "I am legally entitled to do X;" it is quite another to expect that you can do X for nefarious reasons and expect to go unchallenged in the political arena by a coordinate branch of government. Given the supine nature of Congress over the past six years, though, I can understand why Rove believed "because the President says so" is a reasonable excuse.

Rove's reliance on "the president can do it" to try to shut down debate, is specious for another reason. The President, for example, has unfettered rights to pardon people. If President Bush started selling pardons, under Rove's logic, Congress would have no right or reason to investigate what the President had done. Many Republicans certainly took a different tack with respect to investigating President Clinton's perhaps-poorly-considered pardon of Marc Rich.

Second, Clinton's firing of 93 U.S. Attorneys was far less insidious than what happened here. Clinton's decision was generally applicable to all U.S. Attorneys -- you were hired by a different administration and I will replace you without regard to the status of any of your ongoing investigations. No one was spared, and thus no single U.S. Attorneys conduct was at issue. Here, however, Bush has not created a rule of general applicability (i.e., at the beginning of his second term seeking resignation of all U.S. Attorneys). Rather, his administration has apparently systematically chosen to replace U.S. Attorneys who were not malleable enough with respect to particular investigations of individuals or entities allied with the Republican party. There is simply no comparison between these two acts.

heck of a job!

Wow.

If Clinton fired some appointees, then he should have made sure to install someone good in Texas.

With that kind of foresight, he could have derailed this whole Dubya-thing from the start.

(which - it appears, is what Rove - er, um, Gonzales, was trying to accomplish in Arkansas)

ER: If Clinton fired some appointees, then he should have made sure to install someone good in Texas.... ...With that kind of foresight, he could have derailed this whole Dubya-thing from the start.

Excellent point. Also, Tom DeLay. Doh!

This is a knee-slapper!

You idiots do realize that if you succeed in bringing down Attorney General Gonzales, you risk two things:

1. Loss of support from Hispanic-Americans who believe that Gonzales is their hero.

2. Attorney General Rick Santorum.

Bwah hah hah hah hah hah hah!

My fav quote today is from Schumer at his press conference:

Karl Rove should not wait for a subpoena. He should come before us immediately.

Nixon's "I take responsibility but not the blame," isn't just a joke. As I recall he really said it during the Watergate scandal.

I don't see how you can call Gonzales a goner. He is just like all the other incompetents that enable this administration; he will ignore what everyone writes and says about him, knowing full well that the decider will not let one of his favorite and most faithful lapdogs be thrown to the dogs. Besides the MSM already give Bushco far too much latitude and freedom to do as they please. Thus, this administration will continue to do as it wishes and thumb its nose at the American people.

Gonzales is not toast, but America might be.

So Norman is telling us that it would be sage to overlook this malfeasance based on Gonzales ethnicity?

You really are a piece of work. Keep it up!

Have to admit, I would love, love love seeing little Ricky in the AG position for a short time. Nothing is going to stop these pinheads so why the hell not have have a lot of laughs while watching them do it before we hand them walking papers?

I mean little Ricky in the AG? That would be sooo much more entertaining than Quayle ever was. Its that deer-in-the-headlights-weird-perpetual-fundamentalist smile that is shellacked on his face and the I don't have to think about what I say, God guides all.

Epic.

Good point raised by zAmboni way upthread: Gonzo made sure to lay some blame at Sampson's feet. Typical Bush Admin "He did it!" behavior.

Typical Bush Admin "He did it!" behavior.

At least they are not blaming it on gay prostitutes this time. That is a step-up, of sorts.

Norman Rogers is even stupider than usual.

This is a knee-slapper!

You idiots do realize that if you succeed in bringing down Attorney General Gonzales, you risk two things:

1. Loss of support from Hispanic-Americans who believe that Gonzales is their hero.

That's about...how many? Five or six people?

2. Attorney General Rick Santorum.

Are you really a comedian in disguise? In your case, you really should quit your day job.

Bwah hah hah hah hah hah hah!

The aptly named "simp" steps in it!

I mean little Ricky in the AG? That would be sooo much more entertaining than Quayle ever was. Its that deer-in-the-headlights-weird-perpetual-fundamentalist smile that is shellacked on his face and the I don't have to think about what I say, God guides all.

No, the law will guide Mr. Santorum.

The Senate will confirm him. He is one of their own. He will walk up to the Senators who will confirm him and give them great big hugs for all to see and even the most stalwart Democrat will vote to confirm him. He is actually BETTER qualified and more talented as a lawyer than Gonzales, if that is possible. There is no conceivable scenario where Senator Santorum would not be confirmed--none. If Negroponte, Gates and Hayden can get confirmed, then Santorum would be the safe bet to replace Gonzales.

A taste of what is to come:

In his short career as a lawyer before going into politics, Rick Santorum's most notable client was the World Wrestling Entertainment, then called the World Wrestling Federation. He worked to shield WWE from federal regulations on the use of steroids, arguing that since wrestling was not a sport the rules should not apply.

In 2005, Santorum proposed legislation that would have blocked the National Weather Service from providing information about weather to the general public. His intent was apparently to help AccuWeather, a Pennsylvania firm, drive viewers to their web pages and away from the Weather Service's site. The legislation did not pass, but later that year when New Orleans was devastated by Hurricane Katrina, Santorum said that the National Weather Service had given "no warning, or not sufficient warning in my opinion" about the storm's path. In reality, the Weather Service issued loud and accurate warnings days in advance about what was to come from Katrina.

And:

Santorum has argued that the government can regulate private consensual sexual acts, and he has specifically complained that the 1966 Supreme Court decision in Griswold v Connecticut, which established Americans' right to privacy, was wrong. The Griswold case was not about gay rights, but overturned state laws prohibiting the use of contraceptives.

Keep firing away, liberals! Oh, how the worm has turned! Attorney General Santorum awaits his debut on the national stage! Huzzah!

Clinton.

No, I doubt Hillary Clinton will be the next Attorney General.

Attorney General Santorum

Time to dust off "Bork" as a verb...Imagine the high theater of the the confirmation process!

Please! I beg Torture Boy to resign!!!

Poor Norman...someone in the final stages of dementia is a sad spectacle.

2. Attorney General Rick Santorum.

What an excellent idea, Mr. Rogers. With the AG position, Senator Santorum could begin a viable presidential campaign, which could result in my dream ticket: Santorum/Keyes '08!

Yeah, Norm, just like the Senate refused to confirm one of their own, John ("Evil midget with shoe polish in his hair") Tower for Bush I's Secretary of Defense, in 1989. Bush II is too weak to offer Santorum. But it would be fun.

Senator Santorum could begin a viable presidential campaign, which could result in my dream ticket: Santorum/Keyes '08!
Posted by: Happy Conservative

Heh. That's my dream ticket for y'all too! See! We can achieve common ground!!!

Heh. That's my dream ticket for y'all too! See! We can achieve common ground!!!

Hmm, I don't know how I feel about that. Anyway, both Santorum and Keyes have recently shown that they can win in swing states such as Pennsylvania, Maryland, and Illinois. Keyes, in particular, will appeal to socially conservative blacks. I would predict such a ticket could win in 40 states. Go Santorum/Keyes '08!

The rabbit is bounding, the chase is on.

In a hunt, cornered is rarely turned, unless a rabbit is smart or lucky enough to get cornered with other rabbits, so that when the jaws comes flashing in, perhaps an escape can be made on the sacrifice of one or more of the others.

Don't count out the insurgent Bolton/Pam Atlas Shrugs ticket!

"Purgegate" isn't much of a name for the scandal. How about "Shown-the-gate" or "Eight-shown-the-gate"?

Yep, Santorum sure showed us how to win in Pennsylvania! My, Yes! What a stellar performance he treated us to!

That ticket wouldn't even carry kansas, and they think science is illegal.

Keyes sowed a lot of ill-will in Missouri last senate race, too - comparing SCNT research to Treblinka and Auschwitz.

So pleaae, I beg you, run that ticket!

Hmm, I don't know how I feel about that. Anyway, both Santorum and Keyes have recently shown that they can win in swing states such as Pennsylvania, Maryland, and Illinois. Keyes, in particular, will appeal to socially conservative blacks. I would predict such a ticket could win in 40 states. Go Santorum/Keyes '08!

I think history has shown pretty conclusively that the Dems could never get that lucky, more's the pity.

I have a question for all you brainy people. Why wre Miers and Sampson fixated on taking out a crowd? Wouldn't there have been less fuss if they had taken them out one at a time?

Just asking.

Guess what, Al? Bush fired all his at the start of his first & second terms also. It is a 4 year term, after all. What was Bush trying to hide by doing so? You are very quick to blame something on Bill Clinton that is a matter of course for all Presidents. And Bush's people not only lied about it, but got caught over really stupid lies. I mean, Good God! Their own paperwork proves they lied.

Sampson was only the first to go. Others will follow. Oh wait. Sampson was the first to go, only after following the former Attorney General of the US. We all know resignation usually means firing in DC.

So pleaae, I beg you, run that ticket!

I'm glad you share my enthusiasm. I smile thinking of the glorious cabinet in such an Administration.

SOS = John Bolton
AG = Jeb Bush
SOD = Douglas Feith
All Others = Who Cares

Finally, a Christian country run by devout Christians!

Wouldn't there have been less fuss if they had taken them out one at a time?

I think they relied on their little tweak to the USA-CONSTITUTION SUSPENSION ACT to carry them through and nobody would notice. Really the fundamental error was not doing a bunch at once. It was the idiot who decided to lay it off on "incompetence" (as if they'd ever fired anyone for that in their whole history--who was going to believe that???). Which pissed off some of the fire-ees, and which was a sleazy thing to do by any standards (even those with no standards, such as Norman). This quite unecessary and profoundly stupid, but profoundly typical, Bushist flourish pissed off several of them and led Iglesias to sound off, thus precipitating the whole mud slide.

In all likelihood, if the admin had just said, "Hey, policy differences," none of this would have gotten on the radar screen.

"Purgegate" isn't much of a name for the scandal. How about "Shown-the-gate" or "Eight-shown-the-gate"?

How about "the Justice Department Massacre"?

Good question, Ron Byers. Actually some of that crew wanted to fire all the US attorneys, but were told it would be virtually impossible to find enough warm bodies left, evidently meaning having their absolute loyalty to Bush.

I think that the number of USA's fired and the location of the fired USA's had to do with their political replacements and future political aspirations. I am just guessing, of course, but the fact that Rove had his fingers in it tells me it was about much more that the fired USA's. Rove thinks about numbers/electoral votes/voting trends/ long term strategy- people are not real to him. I have to admit though, that he seems to have lost his edge lately.

As for a Santorum/Keys ticket- No. 1- it would have to be independent- the neocons wouldn't let it happen to the party that they have only so recently hijacked [It would be so nice to have a Republican party that could balance the checkbook back, of, course, when exactly was that?];and, 2) Neither Keyes nor Santorum could get elected to a county council (sp?) position in Maryland.

Finally, I am so irritated that I missed the gun control ruling thread- that looked like fun.

Why wre Miers and Sampson fixated on taking out a crowd? Wouldn't there have been less fuss if they had taken them out one at a time?

They had to do it (1) while the Congress was not in session, (2) before the Dems took control. Small window.

Finally, a Christian country run by devout Christians!

Perish the thought. There is no place in Gilead for someone like me.

Back to Prague with me, I guess...

Norman Rogers: Attorney General Rick Santorum.

That's so funny it brings tears to my eyes. The Democratic Senators would simply read his campaign rhetoric back to him, and ask if he still believed it. They wouldn't have to ask him to withdraw his nomination, they'd simply laugh out loud. He didn't just lose, he lost as an incumbent. And he didn't just lose as an incumbent, he lost in a landslide.

Really, that's too funny.

Back to Prague with me, I guess... Posted by: Blue Girl, Red State (aka Global Citizen) on March 13, 2007 at 5:22 PM

I thought all liberals were from France...or was it Canada?

Well, technically, I am from Coco Solo Naval Station in the PCZ, sharing a birthplace with John McCain.

but my parents both immigrated as children, were thankful to be here, and set out to serve the nation in an effort to express that gratitude.

But being a godless Jew (literally, since I'm a cultural Jew and a religious atheist) I guess I will be forced to take my science education and my earnings capacity and my hethen ways and leave the Xians to it should such an Atwood-esque future visit our land.

mhr: Guess what? Feckless occurs in all racial and ethnic groups, and liberals realize this. People of common sense realize this. People of honest motive realize this. People of all races realize this.

Alberto fucked up, and he doesn't get to hide behind the race card.

Deal.

If attorneys were fired while in the midst of investigations let's call this what it is: Obrstruction of Justice, and start impeaching these motherfuckers now!

Disputo,

Miers and Sampson were on this "push out the USAs" kick for almost 2 years. This wasn't a brand new idea. No, there was something more.

My own theory is that they were trying to hit one prosecutor so nobody would notice. Stick her in a crowd, blow up the crowd and you have one hit and a bunch of collateral damage. Miers and Sampson pick the guys they didn't mind burning collaterally, but they are just collateral. The only approach that makes any sense in this mindless exercise is that they wanted to remove one somebody so nobody would notice. Carol Lam is the obvious choice. Granted this storm has gotten way beyond what Miers and Sampson expected, but they expected a storm. Why a storm when one wasn't needed?

Torture Boy says he won't resign...Bush is standing by his man...I give him 72 hours.

The allegedly racially and culturally tolerant liberal world is suspiciously intolerant of "people of color," their phrase for "colored people," who cross them by deciding to exercise their independent judgment politically.

Racially and culturally tolerant means we don't judge people by their race or culture, but instead look at their ideas on the merits.

So, yeah, we take issue with idiotic and/or malign ideas even when our opponents who espouse them try to insulate themselves from such criticism by hiding behind status as a racial, ethnic, or other minority.

It's about the content of the character, not the color of their skin. Much as they and their defenders try to make it about the latter to divert from criticism of the former.

mhr: Clarence Thomas, Condoleeza Rice have been targets of intolerant white liberals for a very long time. Now Shumer and the liberal rat pack have set their sights on Alberto Gonzalez, attorney general of the United States.

There are some people as you describe, people who call Thomas and Rice "house ******s" for example. but most liberals oppose them for being conservatives, and oppose white people with the same beliefs. Thus, they are judged for their political beliefs, not racial and ethnic background.

And when I hear someone dismiss either Rice or Thomas or Powell with that epithet, I tear into them like I do certain people here, only I don't hold back.

Attorney General Santorum Norman Rogers at 3:57 PM

Republicans and their typical Clinton lies

...in an e-mail to Harriet Miers on Jan. 9, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales’s chief of staff Kyle Sampson (who resigned yesterday) admitted that the Clinton administration never purged its U.S. attorneys in the middle of their terms, explicitly stating, “In recent memory, during the Reagan and Clinton Administrations, Presidents Reagan and Clinton did not seek to remove and replace U.S. Attorneys to serve indefinitely under the holdover provision�...

Stupid liberals!

Did you forget that the US Senate is a club?

The only person more fundamentalist and vehement in his beliefs was Attorney General John Ashcroft--and he had no trouble getting confirmed.

Mark my words, if Santorum is nominated, there will be a harrumph or two from the loony fringe of the Democratic Party and then, like a wet far being released under the watchful guise of a Presbyterian Minister, the vote will be 99 to nothing to confirm, that fellow from South Dakota still too hopped up on goofballs to vote.

End of story.

like a wet far being released

I tried to get creative. I apologize. That should read:

...like a wet FART being released...

I think I have had too much to drink this evening. Not alcohol! I have had too much green tea. It's making me excitable.

Did you forget that the US Senate is a club?

Santorum did not retire from the club, he was booted out. Joe Lieberman and William Jefferson received standing ovations (from different groups in Congress) after winning their elections, because elected representatives respect winning. Santorum will be greeted with merriment and derisive cutting jokes. The Republicans will be begging for him to withdraw his nomination.

“Whether he resigns or not, I’m pleased that we have vigorous investigation of what is happening there because we may have to go beyond a resignation,” Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said at a press conference.

More drama from the Dems, another Plamegate.

Here is essence of that position:

"The U.S. attorneys, ...........serve at the pleasure of the president and can be dismissed at any time."

Let us moveon.org

".....William Jefferson received standing ovations (from different groups in Congress)...." spider

Well of course he did. It's not everyday that a sitting US Senator is caught with a large amount of accounted cash in his freezer and then proceed to be re-elected and then appointed to a nice chair position from his boss, Ms. Nancy Pelosi.

Jefferson is a Representative, and he was retained in office not by the Democratic party in general, but by the voters of his district. I have expressed my displeasure with the party leadership for not dealing with him in a harsh manner.

As to the rest of your post, it has all been refuted here ad infinitum, and that you continue to post the same drivel ad nauseum after it has been soundly refuted, just verifies your insanity. Or brain damage. Let's go to the video tape and Dr. Frist for a diagnosis.

More drama from the Dems, another Plamegate.

You mean, more perjury and obstruction of justice by senior members of the Administration? Why, I think you nailed that!

It has been a long day. It will probably be a longer tomorrow. How many scandals can one administration absorb. Just in the last week we have watched three major and several minor scandals tumble out one right after the other. At long last can the trolls just stop and look at the mess the administration has made of things. Just stop and think. Do you really want to carry water for Karl Rove and this bunch. At about this stage in the Clinton administration I began to feel just a little used. My defense of Bill began to weaken. After a while my opposition to impeachment was based not on loyalty to Bill but on the notion that impeachment over a taudry sex scandal was a pathetic waste of time. I was wrong. The Clinton scandal wasn't a pathetic waste of time. It was merely a waste of time. The Bush administration, on the other hand has been a pathetic waste of time, treasure and most importantly American lives. Now it is revealed that at best the Justice Department has been converted to the Republican Just Us Department. You guys defending the Administration must feel really scummmy when you knock off each night.

It has been a long day. It will probably be a longer tomorrow. How many scandals can one administration absorb.

Oh, Wah! Drama queen! This is no different from any single day of the Clinton Administration. The only thing missing would be Bill's friend Vernon Jordan trying to pay some tawdry blonde to keep her yap shut.

You guys defending the Administration must feel really scummmy when you knock off each night.

Once the effects of the green tea wears off, I feel pretty good actually. I'm in the best shape of my life, just a bit past my 65th birthday, and there are liberal carcasses bobbing in the shallow water behind me. I sail on, eternally the optimist and thankful that we live in the freest nation on Earth, safely protected and defended by the best of the best.

You really have to question the judgement of this Administration. Do they have a grasp on reality? Didn't they realize that the way they did business in the past died the day the Dems won the elections and got subpeona power? Did they think that something like the firing of a US Attorney wouldn't attract a lot of attention? Did they fool themselves into believing the Senate Democrats wouldn't ferociouslly protect their perrogatives after 12 years in the wilderness? Unbelievable.

Norman, dude, step away from the tea bags if the drivel you're spouting is the result. Seriously, man, this is sheer babbling from the padded cell.

mr: "The allegedly racially and culturally tolerant liberal world is suspiciously intolerant of "people of color," their phrase for "colored people," who cross them..."

Yeah, it's merit—something strikingly absent in your thinking process.
But do have fun fucking your strawmen!

Ode to Harriet, Brownie and Alberto

I’ve passed a Masters course or two,
at MIT and NYU
Yet, Re: ‘Management’ I ne’er learned twas right
to slavishly appoint Umbilicytes.

(umbilical:acolyte)
(CAJ 2004)