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March 19, 2007
By: Kevin Drum

"YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW BAD IT IS HERE"....Via Balloon Juice, Chitra Ragavan at U.S. News & World Report passes along the following update on Purgegate:

"You have no idea," said one Justice official, "how bad it is here."

The fear that virtually any piece of communication will have to be turned over has paralyzed department officials' ability to communicate effectively and respond in unison to the crisis, as has the fact that senior Justice officials themselves say they still don't know the entire story about what happened that led to the crisis. So they are afraid that anything they put down on paper could be viewed as lies or obfuscation, when in fact, the story is changing daily as new documents are found and as the Office of Legal Counsel conducts its own internal probe into the matter.

Golly. I wonder why they think that anything they put down on paper could be viewed as lies or obfuscation? That's a real poser. And then there's this about the problem Bush would face if Alberto Gonzales leaves the Justice Department:

Who could Bush find that could get Senate confirmation, since Democrats now run the show? It would have to be a seasoned insider, a consummate veteran or an elder statesman who has bipartisan respect and acceptance and a squeaky-clean record.

"The trouble," says one former official, "is that no one comes to mind."

Elliot Richardson died a few years ago, so yeah, I can see their problem.

UPDATE: By the way, I'll be very surprised if there's anything close to a smoking gun in the 2000-page document dump still being promised for tonight. Even among the nitwits routinely hired by the Bush administration, I can't believe that any of them would be stupid enough to put in writing a suggestion that a U.S. Attorney be fired because their investigations were insufficiently partisan.

Then again, with this crew you never know. Stay tuned.

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A few months ago I told some associates that the problem with lying is that you have to keep track of the lies. Too bad the "Bushies" never thought of that.

Posted by: Colin on March 19, 2007 at 8:31 PM | PERMALINK

Republican Attorneys General (John Mitchell, Ed Meese, Al Gonzales) are generally criminal.

Posted by: little ole jim from red country on March 19, 2007 at 8:32 PM | PERMALINK

Anyone think James Baker has a shot?

Posted by: Bhaal on March 19, 2007 at 8:37 PM | PERMALINK

Ted Olson's name's being floated. I guess they expect to get him in on the 9/11 sympathy vote.

How 'bout Jeb or Neil Bush? It's been done before.

Posted by: eCAHNomics on March 19, 2007 at 8:38 PM | PERMALINK

Someone with bipartisan respect and a squeaky-clean record?

Patrick Fitzgerald for AG!

Posted by: Lis Riba on March 19, 2007 at 8:38 PM | PERMALINK

John Danforth? Is he even a lawyer? I think he is.

Posted by: Ringo on March 19, 2007 at 8:45 PM | PERMALINK

lyric from my song of last year

Attorney General, You are a criminal.
I wish for you no worse than organ failure or death.
So now waterboarding is no longer torture?

Extraordinary rendition hardly gets your attention.
How loud must one speak before you'll start to listen?

Joint Strike Fighter won't defeat Al Queda.
300 billion and we'll never use them.

And Rumsfeld, you failure.
Your ambiguity leads to cruelty.
Abu Graib was no surprise to me.
Suspending the Uniform Code of Justice.
You must have know how much this would cost us.

Congressman made a career of lower taxes.
But the mounting debt will break our backs, and
your fiscal responsibility is all but lost on me.

Posted by: absent observer on March 19, 2007 at 8:45 PM | PERMALINK

Some wag in the administration floated the name of Chertoff. Anything for a laugh, these guys.

Posted by: Dick Durata on March 19, 2007 at 8:49 PM | PERMALINK

The small-mindedness of our AG is really upsetting, especially when you consider how adept RFK was during his tenure. We tend to view the early 60s with JFK's imprint, but his brother steadfastedly carried out his responsibilities and believed clearly in keeping DoJ stuff seperate from the executive branch. As a result, Civil Rights had a champion, the Cuba-Missle crisis was softened and our country was managed in a manner that seems SO different from today.

You can't be a good AG unless you have a clear sense of what is Constitutionally proper.

I don't get the sense that John, Harriet, or Alberto understand how our Constituition works.

If they did, we'd be spending far less time being appalled at their actions. (Ashcroft and breast-drapery on statues, remember?)

Again, small mindedness. We are all sufferring as a result of this mendacity, and inability to professionally and Constitutionally carry out the laws of the land (oh yeah I forgot, they just change 'em at their pleasure!).

Posted by: Tom Nicholson on March 19, 2007 at 8:56 PM | PERMALINK

Kevin you were a bit longer on the road but you arrived just the same.

Posted by: Horatio Parker on March 19, 2007 at 8:59 PM | PERMALINK

Ah, Kevin.

What is the point of this excersise, beyond the liberal politicking?

I mean, this just discusts me. We are AT WAR, PEOPLE! This is real! Life and death! And you guys want to play politics as usual. Beltway follies, all over again.

Hopefully the American people wake up and smell the coffee, and turn out the Democrat party jokers before we all wind up babbling in Iraqi.

I tremble for my county.

Posted by: egbert on March 19, 2007 at 9:06 PM | PERMALINK

craig crawford just said on countdown that justice dept peeps he's talking to say this goes much further -- that loyal bushies were appointed to career (not just political appointees) professionals and that loyalty was uppermost in hiring.

Posted by: linda on March 19, 2007 at 9:11 PM | PERMALINK

Can't you guys find a better parody troll than this egbert fella?

Posted by: Ringo on March 19, 2007 at 9:11 PM | PERMALINK

I'd settle for bringing Ashcroft back.

Draped titties is far more tolerable than this.

Posted by: Boronx on March 19, 2007 at 9:13 PM | PERMALINK

I'd settle for bringing Ashcroft back.

Yeah, I mentioned the same thing in the thread below. Sad that it's become that bad, but I'll take an AG who annoints himself in Crisco, hides statue boobies, and is afraid of calico cats, over this disaster any day.

Posted by: Ringo on March 19, 2007 at 9:16 PM | PERMALINK

"Even among the nitwits routinely hired by the Bush administration, I can't believe that any of them would be stupid enough to put in writing a suggestion that a U.S. Attorney be fired because their investigations were insufficiently partisan."

Ahhh, Kevin, you are making an assumption. Maybe your garden-variety nitwit wouldn't be that stupid, but a YOUNG nitwit can do it. Adolescents love to shock (as they think) their elders by attacking what they call hypocrisy. And DoJ is chock-full of baby Federalists a year or so out of law school. Heck--some of them remain freeze-dried in this larval form for many years thereafter. Like Ann Coulter. Let's hope that one of her epigones is on the payroll of Justice.

Posted by: joe S. on March 19, 2007 at 9:17 PM | PERMALINK

In the federal government, an email is a written communication, just like a letter sent by mail. It's subject to Freedom of Information Act requests, may be part of an Administrative Record, etc.

I think the Clinton administration understood that clearly. Lots of bureaucracies understand that clearly--employees can be disciplined or canned for indiscrete emails. The top layer of DOJ and the White House just found that out?

Posted by: David Martin on March 19, 2007 at 9:26 PM | PERMALINK

And come to think of it, I don't envy DOJ and the White House for having to assemble some 2000 documents on short notice. Just converting emails to pdf format takes a certain amount of time.

Posted by: David Martin on March 19, 2007 at 9:28 PM | PERMALINK

How many times do I have to explain this to all of you?

If you want an Attorney General who will sail through the confirmation process, you name an ex-Senator from a blue state.

To wit, you name Rick Santorum. He will not get 100 votes; but he will pull in Lieberman, Nelson, Nelson, Landrieu and probably Salazar.

Duh.

Posted by: Norman Rogers on March 19, 2007 at 9:29 PM | PERMALINK

Hopefully the American people wake up and smell the coffee, and turn out the Democrat party jokers before we all wind up babbling in Iraqi.

I hope egbert is a liberal having fun exaggerating the whacky dishonesty of the wingnuts.

The alternative is that egbert is a wingnut, who truly believes that the Iraqi insurgents are sufficiently powerful that they could not just force an ill-conceived, poorly-planned under-equipped nation building effort out of their country, they could invade *our* country and defeat us and impose their culture and language on us. Why does egbert despise America so much?

In the latter case, don't worry eggy, even if Bush's incompetence is so great that his nation building project in Iraq fails, you'll still be babbling in English for many years to come.

Posted by: bob on March 19, 2007 at 9:32 PM | PERMALINK

Keep the Hispanic representation: appoint David Iglesias.

Posted by: KCinDC on March 19, 2007 at 9:40 PM | PERMALINK

Comey

Posted by: Mudge on March 19, 2007 at 9:42 PM | PERMALINK

egbert,
You really are a repubilcultist.
Do you know that?
Who teaches you these things.
Now go out into the backyard and play with
with thw other children.
Stop bothering the adults.
Go... Shoo

Posted by: artemiscal on March 19, 2007 at 9:44 PM | PERMALINK

How many times do I have to explain this to all of you? . . . If you want an Attorney General who will sail through the confirmation process, you name an ex-Senator from a blue state . . . To wit, you name Rick Santorum. He will not get 100 votes; but he will pull in Lieberman, Nelson, Nelson, Landrieu and probably Salazar.

Sorry, you forgot the other basic requirements: that the AG be well-read, honest, capable of putting his country above his political loyalities, and, oh yes, he cannot be dumber than Alberto Gonzales.

Santorum fails on all counts. I wouldn't trust that man to wax a used Volvo. Tony McPeak provides the quote that will define the Bush era for the history books:

America has been conducting an experiment for the past six years, trying to validate the proposition that it really doesn't make any difference who you elect president. Now we know the result of that experiment. If a guy is stupid, it makes a big difference.

The same principle applies to the cabinet offices.

Posted by: Berken on March 19, 2007 at 9:44 PM | PERMALINK

Kevin

You've obviously never had any experience with a document production in a lawsuit -- it's amazing what people put in writing, when that form of writing is email.

The Bushies went six years without having their email scrutinized. Plenty of time to create bad habits.

In the final years of the Clinton administration, I couldn't imagine someone putting something in an email that wasn't written to be "Exhibit A" in the next Judicial Watch lawsuit, but these guys just haven't been under that kind of harrassment. You only have to look at your own post -- the atmosphere they face at Justice today was standard operating procedure in the Clinton years.

Posted by: pj on March 19, 2007 at 9:51 PM | PERMALINK

John Danforth has a JD from Yale and is a former Missouri Attorney General. He's an horable, capable, decent man who'd make a great A.G. Which is precisely why Bush won't appoint him.

But the person who mentioned the odious Rick Santorum might be on to something. But do you think that republican senators in tight 08 races could support him? Susan Collins is pro-choice. Sununu faces a really difficult race even before casting a vote for the likes of Santorum. The list goes on. I'm just not certain that Bush could keep all his Republicans on board with that vote.

Posted by: b on March 19, 2007 at 9:53 PM | PERMALINK

But the person who mentioned the odious Rick Santorum might be on to something. But do you think that republican senators in tight 08 races could support him? Susan Collins is pro-choice. Sununu faces a really difficult race even before casting a vote for the likes of Santorum. The list goes on. I'm just not certain that Bush could keep all his Republicans on board with that vote.

Look, if one of you can think, perhaps more of you can start thinking about this rationally.

Did you forget that there's a Republican base out there that yearns for leadership? And that they won't get that from anyone but the tough and resourceful Mitch McConnell?

Who has bested Harry Reid at every turn? McConnell. Who is going to look at a former member of the Senatorial club (they all mutter, there but for the grace of God go I when one of their own who has been defeated returns to the hill? None of them.

The US Senate is a club. That's why you liberals are always let down. That's why there are Democrat Senators who ALWAYS vote against Democratic interests.

Get a brain. It's going to be Rick!

Posted by: Norman Rogers on March 19, 2007 at 9:57 PM | PERMALINK

Democratic Senators, Norman..Democratic. Remedial reading classes are available at your local library.

Posted by: Mudge on March 19, 2007 at 10:01 PM | PERMALINK

Yeah, you fucking moron, egbert. We're at war, and Alberto Gonzales is the newest cannon fodder.

I love the smell of desperation in the morning.

Posted by: dataguy on March 19, 2007 at 10:05 PM | PERMALINK

Oh, poor Mudge. You thought you made a funny.

Once again--there are always Democratic Senators who, without fail, always seem to run from your party and vote AGAINST the interests of your party.

Joe Lieberman comes to mind...then the two Nelsons, Landrieu...I'm sure there are more.

Posted by: Norman Rogers on March 19, 2007 at 10:09 PM | PERMALINK

I'm too slow. I immediately thought of Patrick Fitzgerald. I bet that would scare the pants of Abu Gonzalez.

Posted by: jussumbody on March 19, 2007 at 10:12 PM | PERMALINK

Ringo asked : "Can't you guys find a better parody troll than this egbert fella?"

You're right of course Ringo. Like some ancient transvestite miming to Streisand, Egbert nowadays just lip-synchs his weary wingnuttery:
"Ah Kevin...You liberals...partisan tempest in a teacup... this is WAR...I tremble for my country" Coda. Refrain. Next Thread.

Norman Rogers is the thinking men & women's parody troll: Richly imagined, complexly realized, bombast just short of buffoonery, archly conservative, purportedly patrician - his current monomania-cum-leitmotif is a quixotic advocacy on behalf of Rick Santorum. Like Rogers himself, it amuses less with overuse, but among parody trolls, Norman is king.

Posted by: DanJoaquinOz on March 19, 2007 at 10:16 PM | PERMALINK

John Danforth has a JD from Yale and is a former Missouri Attorney General. He's an horable, capable, decent man who'd make a great A.G. Which is precisely why Bush won't appoint him.

Oh right, what was I thinking? Go with Santorum(my former Senator, thank God), the guy who brought a fetus home for his kids to see. Forget it.

Besides, he only went to Dickinson law school, and I'm not even sure if that's the third best law school in this state. Other than that, his legal career is practically nonexistent.
Besides, Danforth is also a former Senator, so not sure why the whole "club" thing wouldn't apply to him as well.

Posted by: Ringo on March 19, 2007 at 10:28 PM | PERMALINK

egbert: "Hopefully the American people wake up and smell the coffee, and turn out the Democrat party jokers before we all wind up babbling in Iraqi."

egbert, I think I love you. Hope that's not too "discusting". Don't worry, it sounds better in Iraqi.

(Maybe whoever is doing egbert has been inspired by Norman Rogers, in kind of good troll/bad troll way.)

Posted by: Kenji on March 19, 2007 at 10:32 PM | PERMALINK

Egbert,

Bush and Gonzales were playing politics by committing a political cleansing of anyone in the justice department who wasn't a Bush worshipping robot.

Oh, right it is his right to do that. Guess what, the Democrats can issue subpeonas at "their pleasure" too.

Besides, why are Republican donors getting caught donating millions of dollars to terrorists? We are at war and the Republican donors at the Chiquita Banana Co. are giving millions to narco-terrorists who would be more than willing to work with Al Qaeda for the right price.

Face it, Bush ruined everything. Bin Laden is at large and now Al Qaeda runs amok in Agfhganistan, Pakistan and Iraq now too.

Heckuva job.

-GSD

Posted by: GSD on March 19, 2007 at 10:40 PM | PERMALINK

(Maybe whoever is doing egbert has been inspired by Norman Rogers, in kind of good troll/bad troll way.)

Who's doing a parody? You're all morons. And I am evil.

Suck eggs, liberals.

Posted by: Norman Rogers on March 19, 2007 at 10:47 PM | PERMALINK

Also, has anyone googled the word 'santorum' yet?
On the other hand, any publicity is supposed to be good publicity, right?

Posted by: Left Nut on March 19, 2007 at 10:50 PM | PERMALINK

it is not clear which model has a greater influence on this administration: 1984 or Fawlty Towers.

Posted by: Nat on March 19, 2007 at 10:52 PM | PERMALINK

it is not clear which model has a greater influence on this administration: 1984 or Fawlty Towers.

Posted by: Nat on March 19, 2007 at 10:52 PM | PERMALINK

tough call.

Posted by: Left Nut on March 19, 2007 at 10:53 PM | PERMALINK

it is not clear which model has a greater influence on this administration: 1984 or Fawlty Towers.

Look, Basil Fawlty had his limitations as a hotelier, husband and even as a basic human being but I won't have you go comparing him with GWB.

Shall it be pistols at dawn?

Posted by: Jeff S. on March 19, 2007 at 11:06 PM | PERMALINK

House Judiciary doc dump in progress.

Go check it out and see if you can be the first person on your block to find the smoking gun that leads to Bush and Cheney's impeachment.

Posted by: Disputo on March 19, 2007 at 11:29 PM | PERMALINK

"...I can't believe that any of them would be stupid enough to put in writing a suggestion that a U.S. Attorney be fired because their investigations were insufficiently partisan...."

I thought it had already been said.

You, 19th March, first, about Feinstein:

"Feinstein said Lam notified the Justice Department on May 10, 2006, that she planned to serve search warrants on Kyle Dustin "Dusty" Foggo, who'd resigned two days earlier as the No. 3 official at the CIA.

On May 11, 2006, Kyle Sampson, then Gonzales' chief of staff, sent an e-mail to deputy White House counsel William Kelley, asking Kelley to call to discuss "the real problem we have right now with Carol Lam that leads me to conclude that we should have someone ready to be nominated on 11/18, the day her 4-year term expires."

then:

"...Meanwhile, David Iglesias, the U.S. Attorney for New Mexico, who was supposedly fired for being insufficiently aggressive at prosecuting voter fraud...."

So, Kevin, did they or didn't they?

Egbert, you panicky bed wetter, we're at war with whom. The Iraquis? The rest has already been said. You, like our AWOL leader, are too weak to resist any real threat.

Posted by: nottheere on March 19, 2007 at 11:31 PM | PERMALINK

Norman Rogers has confused the name Santorum with his former abode, sanitarium.

Posted by: Mike on March 19, 2007 at 11:56 PM | PERMALINK

A wise man once told me that the problem with lying is you have to remember all your lies and who you told them to and weave them together with those you've told others. Pretty soon you're "afraid that anything [you] put down on paper could be viewed as lies or obfuscation."

Live by the lie, die by the lie.

Posted by: happytime harry on March 19, 2007 at 11:56 PM | PERMALINK

So Norman Rogers admits to being a parody of a winger. Fine, no more responding to his bait. Or maybe he just feels sorry for the trolls. Even Al doesn't seem to be his old self anymore. And I haven't seen Alice in ages. Shouldn't someone check to see if she's alive? Lord knows most of those trolls are probably hermits whose deaths will not be discovered until long after they have been reduced to skeletons (and stubborn stains) on their couches.

Posted by: jussumbody on March 20, 2007 at 12:46 AM | PERMALINK

My candidate is Barack Obama.

Why not?

He's shown in his campaign so far that he can be anything to anybody depending upon time, place and audience.

Why couldn't he add Republican Attorney General to his growing repertoire?

Critically, it would be amusing and perhaps even instructive to see the office of attorney general occupied for a time by a character who combines the attributes of Iago with those of Nathan Detroit.

Wouldn't you say?

Posted by: roger on March 20, 2007 at 12:47 AM | PERMALINK

Even among the nitwits routinely hired by the Bush administration, I can't believe that any of them would be stupid enough to put in writing a suggestion that a U.S. Attorney be fired because their investigations were insufficiently partisan.

Really? Then I'd say you haven't been paying attention. I'd be surprised if they weren't asking their Attorney's to swear that they oppose abortion and homosexual marriage.

Posted by: craigie on March 20, 2007 at 12:47 AM | PERMALINK

Kenji - love "good troll/bad troll" so much that I hereby announce my intention to steal it, re-use it & pretend it's MINE! Thanks heaps, I'm still chuckling...

Posted by: DanJoaquinOz on March 20, 2007 at 12:48 AM | PERMALINK

God am I getting sick of this Purgegate thing! But it is nice hearing about a bunch of Republican US As being afraid of emailing anything. As our friendly trolls keep saying on here, "If you have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to worry about". Since they are worried, the same reasoning applies: they are hiding something.

We may not succeed in Impeaching any of this gang, but there is still the possibility of prosecution after they leave office. Then again, Impeachment seems more possible every day.

I remember the video of Bush sweating when Rove whispered in his ear on 9/11. Wonder how wet he is now? I'd bet Rove & Cheney aren't very dry either.

Posted by: bob in fl on March 20, 2007 at 1:26 AM | PERMALINK

My reporter neighbor and I were reminiscing of the days when the stupidest things the members of the administration did was to mispell "potato" with an extra "e".

Sigh....

Posted by: Lurtz on March 20, 2007 at 1:36 AM | PERMALINK

bob in fl: I remember the video of Bush sweating when Rove whispered in his ear on 9/11.

Your memory needs a checkup. That was Andy Card.

Posted by: Lurtz on March 20, 2007 at 1:38 AM | PERMALINK

Hey - DJO - remember the night we met and I over stated Iraq's population by a factor of, like, 5 or something?

I figured out how I managed that - I had the Iran page open on the CIA world factbook, and didn't register what I was reading even though I knew better.

Rookie move. Thanks for not holding it against me and coming to visit from time to time.:)

Posted by: Blue Girl, Red State (aka Global Citizen) on March 20, 2007 at 1:38 AM | PERMALINK

Wouldn't any "e" be superfluous?

/pedantry

Posted by: Blue Girl, Red State (aka Global Citizen) on March 20, 2007 at 1:40 AM | PERMALINK

I suppos you said it quit well ther, blu girl.

Posted by: Lurtz on March 20, 2007 at 1:42 AM | PERMALINK

Good one Lurtz.

Before I log off, I want to say to those who have been suggesting Danforth, I agree completely. I read Kevin's posts and the first couple of comments and thought I was going to get there first, but a few people beat me to it. (Over here.)

Can't lay down on the job with this crowd, though, and do things like spend any time on your own blog, and have any prayer of being the first to make your point once you get here.

Goodnight, smart people and egbert.

Will Gonzo be gonzo by 5:00 tomorrow? Heh - my (literal) Magic 8-Ball says "Yes"

Posted by: Blue Girl, Red State (aka Global Citizen) on March 20, 2007 at 1:56 AM | PERMALINK

> Elliot Richardson died a few years ago,
> so yeah, I can see their problem.

William Ruckelshaus is still alive and active ...

Posted by: meep! on March 20, 2007 at 3:15 AM | PERMALINK

Gone by Easter.

"Always tell the truth, that way you never have to remember anything." - Mark Twain

Posted by: daCascadian on March 20, 2007 at 3:29 AM | PERMALINK

Repeat after me: "recess appointment." By the time the Senate reconvenes on April 10, we'll be stuck with an AG so corrupt, so odious, so horrifying, we'll wish we had Gonzales back.

Posted by: rod on March 20, 2007 at 4:11 AM | PERMALINK

Hey Red Girl Blue State -

Of course I remember. Knowing your richly deserved credibility hereabouts & elsewhere I was seriously hesitant to post anything that could be misconstrued as an attack. I knew you'd just made the kind of mistake that anyone makes, especially if they're as prolific an enhancer of the global IQ, as you. Your abject graciousness in apology for your error actually made me feel like an utter prick. I so hated making you feel bad.

My visits to the RGBS & WTWC blogs are selfish & pleasurable, though I sheepishly admit my political prescience re AG's resignation is now, officially, kaput...

PS: My kaput status as a seer aside...Keep your (& your husband's) eye on the story of Major Michael Mori & his Aussie Gitmo defendant, David Hicks. Humble, self-effacing, kinda dorky Major Mori has now achieved mythic status here in Australia for his zealous, principled, Attica Finch style advocacy for Hicks. Huge, heartbreaking story, about everything that's still right about America. It particularly needs to be told in the US.

Posted by: DanJoaquinOz on March 20, 2007 at 7:06 AM | PERMALINK

The firing of the US Attorney in Seattle has been attributed to his not taking action in the Governor's race. Of course, except for Doc Hastings and some Repug diehards, there was no evidence of any wrong doing.

However, there must have been tremendous voter fraud in the 33rd District in this past election - How else to explain Mike Cook losing.

Posted by: thethirdPaul on March 20, 2007 at 7:50 AM | PERMALINK

Never underestimate their vast ability to screw up. There may very well be incriminating evidence in this "dump". Here are criminals working to hide their crimes. They can't very well ask for outside help, which just makes for more witnesses against them later. Their sheer arrogance also tends to work against them. They never imagined they would have to worry about this. “Subpoena, what?” They will smear and malign those who seek the truth which is an old standard by this bunch and they will continue to act as the wrongly accused man to the end, even as more and more evidence pours out against them. Their story will change and twist and turn. They will cite god and say, “but were in a WAR!” but it’s not going to be enough. Too few believe them now. Too many know. It might take a while for the truth to sink in, even to them.

Posted by: mparker on March 20, 2007 at 8:04 AM | PERMALINK

Correction - that's Major Mori's ATTICUS Finch-style advocacy & the story is covered, albeit superficially in todays NYTimes

Posted by: DanJoaquinOz on March 20, 2007 at 9:43 AM | PERMALINK

As someone from Missouri who is pretty damn liberal, I'll have to agree with BGRS and others -- Danforth would be teh awesome.

Sure, the whole Clarence Thomas thing was questionable, but he's a good, devent, honest man who would put the good of the country above the good of the part ...

which is why someone like Santorum or Jeb will be nominated.

**vomits in mouth**

Posted by: Mark D (aka "Unholy Moses") on March 20, 2007 at 9:49 AM | PERMALINK

Whoops: That should read: " ... but he's a good, "decent, honest man ..."

Didn't mean to imply Danforth's a Mark Foley, and gotta remember to use that "preview" button.

**bangs head on keyboard**

Posted by: Mark D (aka "Unholy Moses") on March 20, 2007 at 9:55 AM | PERMALINK

Thanks for the kind words, DJO. You are always welcome to play with my toys! And ALWAYS tell me when I slip up! I would much rather hear it from you at the time than have a troll throw an honest mistake at me weeks later...

Mark, don't do yourself an injury now...Typos happen - you should see the garbled IM's that fly between midtown KCMO and Acadiana if you doubt me...

The Thomas nomination was some high-drama I missed. I was on the other side of the world and in a fog of childrearing, so I don't have that automatic visceral reaction.

(It was different living oversees before NYTimes.com.)

Posted by: Blue Girl, Red State (aka Global Citizen) on March 20, 2007 at 10:42 AM | PERMALINK

which is why someone like Santorum or Jeb will be nominated.
**vomits in mouth**

Here, use this tissue to clean up your business. And thank you for demonstrating how little you know while being brilliant at the same time.

Yes, Sanotorum is the next Attorney General.
No, Jeb--while a great choice--can't take the job because of the nepotism laws rammed into existence after Bobby Kennedy kicked LBJ in the balls one too many times.

Posted by: Norman Rogers on March 20, 2007 at 10:58 AM | PERMALINK

You think that Bush would have the guts to go for Danforth? Talk about someone who would HELP the Dems start putting people in jail! I don't think so. Can you imagine how the country would be different now if W had gone with Danforth instead of Cheney as VP?

Lotsa KC liberals for Danforth on here it seems. Count me in.

Posted by: kchiker on March 20, 2007 at 11:19 AM | PERMALINK

The first thing that comes to mind is echos of the nitwit right during the revelations of illegal phone tapping and email monitoring:

"I've got nothing to hide, why should it bother me?"

It would only "paralyze" the department if there are things going on that they don't want revealed....right?

lmao.

Posted by: Simp on March 20, 2007 at 11:33 AM | PERMALINK
Yes, Sanotorum is the next Attorney General.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA **gasp** HA HA HA HA HA HA .... HA HA ... HA.

Ahem.

Yeah ... and the KC Royals are shoe-ins to win the World Series this year.

Let's be honest: Santorum is to intellectual thought what Jeff Dahmer was to international cuisine.

Lotsa KC liberals for Danforth on here it seems. Count me in.

Danforth is one of the few Republicans left who aren't complete f***ing nutjobs. In fact, he's the only Republican I've ever voted for, mainly because he's truer to his country than his party.

Again, though, that whole helping Clarence Thomas thing still bugs me. To be honest, I think he probably regrets it given his recent statements on the current state of the GOP.

Posted by: Mark D (aka "Unholy Moses") on March 20, 2007 at 11:44 AM | PERMALINK

I guess these people are too dumb to realize we still have telephones.

Posted by: anne on March 20, 2007 at 12:31 PM | PERMALINK

Wouldn't mind seeing George McGovern in there, he's pissed. How about another Bobby Kennedy in the A.G. spot :-), worth a shot.

Posted by: Steve L on March 20, 2007 at 12:57 PM | PERMALINK

If you're not doing anything illegal or unethical what's the problem with communicating by telling the truth?

Posted by: Carl Nyberg on March 20, 2007 at 1:10 PM | PERMALINK

See a tongue-in-cheek visual of Alberto & Karl starring in the new White House presentation of "Justice Is Served"...here:

www.thoughttheater.com

Posted by: Daniel DiRito on March 20, 2007 at 1:26 PM | PERMALINK

Mark, don't do yourself an injury now...Typos happen - you should see the garbled IM's that fly between midtown KCMO and Acadiana if you doubt me...

Who me?

*cracks up*

Posted by: MsNThrope on March 20, 2007 at 5:28 PM | PERMALINK

Holy crap!!

I wonder if we're all the source of the "Danforth" rumors ... ? How cool would that be?

Oh ... and I freak out over typos because I'm a professional writer. Well, and a pedantic asshat.

Posted by: Mark D. (aka Unholy Moses) on March 20, 2007 at 5:33 PM | PERMALINK

When I was newly graduated with a nice shiny accounting degree and someone at an employment agency asked me to take a typing test.

'All the girls have to.'

I said, 'Fine, but only if the test is to see how far I can throw an IBM Selectrics.'

Okay, so maybe no typing test.

This was way, way back before everyone had to 'keyboard' themselves into a permanent state of CTS. I mean real typewriters and all.

Posted by: MsNThrope on March 20, 2007 at 5:49 PM | PERMALINK

Bush could end this war quickly by just getting on TV and saying: "I want all who support me and the war to enlist forthwith in either the army or the marines, unless you are over 46 years of age, in which case we need your kids. If you can do this, I am sure we can win. If this doesn't work, I am prepared to ask Congress to require the enlistment of all Republican men and women who are under the age of 46, and up to 59 if they are non-smokers."

Posted by: gizmo on March 20, 2007 at 6:22 PM | PERMALINK




 

 

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