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April 13, 2007
By: Kevin Drum

CHUTZPAH WATCH....Get this: conservative groups are now complaining that the FDA is politicized. Why? Because after years of pandering to social conservatives by refusing to approve Plan B emergency contraception for over-the-counter sale, the FDA finally followed the advice of its own medical experts and told the wingnuts to take a hike. Ann Friedman has the details.

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conservative = member of the Cult of Perpetual Victimhood

Posted by: cleek on April 13, 2007 at 1:58 PM | PERMALINK

As a conservative, I feel that cleek's comment perfectly represents how derision from Democrats and the MSM marginalizes our voices. Although I will personally be able to overcome his vicious attack, it is a perfect example of the unprovoked assault tactics Liberals use on conservatives who are just interested in honest debate.

(/snark)

Posted by: Sam L. on April 13, 2007 at 2:03 PM | PERMALINK

Shorter liberals: Mentioning god in school should get kids expelled, but the school nurse handing out abortion pills is fine.

Posted by: Al on April 13, 2007 at 2:20 PM | PERMALINK

speaking of perfect examples of the unprovoked assault tactics Liberals use on conservatives....

World Bank President Paul Wolfowitz acknowledged Thursday that he erred in helping a close female friend get transferred to a high-paying (read $60,000) job, and said he was sorry. The White House, however, expressed confidence in the embattled bank president. www.cbsnews.com

Democrats fault.

Posted by: Sorry to Interrupt on April 13, 2007 at 2:21 PM | PERMALINK

By the way, I've had my comments deleted and been warned for using 'democrat' party. Because the moderators here at Political Animal have such integrity, I eagerly await something similar happening to Cleek's post.

Posted by: Al on April 13, 2007 at 2:21 PM | PERMALINK

Except for the expense, this suit should be welcomed and publicised.

This might well be an opportunity not only to expose the extent of the political interference from this administration into scientific honesty, and also to show the intrusion of church into state affairs as enabled by same.

Can't wait. Could be the next monkey trial.

Posted by: notthere on April 13, 2007 at 2:28 PM | PERMALINK

Yeah, ain't it a shame how GWB has turned the gvmt into a den of liberal activists....

LMAO @ whining wingnuts.

Posted by: Disputo on April 13, 2007 at 2:36 PM | PERMALINK

Isn't "Whining Wingnuts" redundant?

Posted by: Angela on April 13, 2007 at 2:50 PM | PERMALINK

I agree, this week was depressing.

I've long wanted Bush to get his comeuppance, but it's proving less enjoyable than I thought.

Posted by: Sam Spade on April 13, 2007 at 2:57 PM | PERMALINK

Sam Spade, you just have to relax and let it hap'n, cap'n. I promise you, you'll feel better and better as the spring and summer wear on.

Re Crybaby Women of America and their pals: Sucks to be you, losing your status as outrageous control freaks messing with other people's bodies, doesn't it? Get used to it. As the world continues to become more socially liberal, the window is closing on your chance to turn back the clock and exercise your "authority" in our bedrooms. Another generation and no one will even remember you were here.

Posted by: shortstop on April 13, 2007 at 3:08 PM | PERMALINK

We conseravtives are saddled with some beliefs of the social conservatives, just as liberals are saddled with their embarassing allies, such as the Kos Kids and MoveOn crowd.

Fortunately for the left, the media is generally kind to them. The media tend to de-emphasize Democrats who do something embarassing. E.g., few if any news reports about Mike Nifong and Don Imus point out that they are Democrats. I'd guess that even some of the well-informed posters here didn't know that both men were Democrats.

OTOH when conservatives like Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage have been vilified for certain comments, the media made sure their readers knew which side they were on.

Posted by: ex-liberal on April 13, 2007 at 3:13 PM | PERMALINK

Too bad Bar didn't know about Plan B, back in the day....

Posted by: The Conservative Deflator on April 13, 2007 at 3:20 PM | PERMALINK

Of course the FDA is politicized, but this is a better example.

Posted by: Shelby on April 13, 2007 at 3:32 PM | PERMALINK

Too bad Bar didn't know about Plan B, back in the day....

Well, given that Prescott Bush was a huge proponent of birth control and family planning, and that Poppy was solidly pro-choice until the religious right started bitchslapping the GOP around, I'm betting the Bushes know and have availed themselves of all sorts of things they work hard to keep out of the citizenry's hands.

Posted by: shortstop on April 13, 2007 at 3:33 PM | PERMALINK

"ex-liberal" wrote: We conseravtives are saddled with some beliefs of the social conservatives

Worse yet, conservatives are saddled with embarrassing, shameful examples of rank dishonesty and delusion like you.

Bunus points for your "liberal media" canard, you mendacious neocon toad.

Posted by: Gregory on April 13, 2007 at 3:43 PM | PERMALINK

By the way, dope, thanks for claiming the odious authoritarian -- oh, heck, let's call 'em fascists and have done -- Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage as conservatives -- as if their own branding/marketing efforts left any doubt -- even in your disingenuous complaint about the media.

You can have 'em, "ex-liberal." Shame on you.

Posted by: Gregory on April 13, 2007 at 3:45 PM | PERMALINK

ex-liberal:OTOH when conservatives like Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage have been vilified for certain comments, the media made sure their readers knew which side they were on.

Indeed. If a Democratic presidential candidate spontaneously cheered in a noisy room, and it sounded weird when isolated from the ambient noise, the media would never play it that way in order to make the candidate sound hysterical.

Posted by: cowalker on April 13, 2007 at 3:52 PM | PERMALINK

I'm sorry I'm late to this party. Al's comments, once again, gave me a splitting headache.

The bitchin' and moanin' from the right is getting downright unbearable. It's making ex-liar look like the voice of reason.

When the left gets equal time in the media, come talk to us.

Posted by: bigcat on April 13, 2007 at 4:00 PM | PERMALINK

I for one really appreciate Al's reliable presence here. We should think of him as our caged pet wingnut. As if on cue, he'll deliver the winger talking points in response to whatever Kevin wrote, and then, usually, he'll disappear without polluting the rest of the conversation.

It's nice to not have to visit LGF to get the freeper spin. Al delivers it in a nicely sanitized bite-sized package, I read it, and I can move on.

Thanks, Al!

Posted by: Tom Ames on April 13, 2007 at 4:07 PM | PERMALINK

So when is it time for the kitties ?

"Nothing is so admirable in politics as a short memory." - John Kenneth Galbraith

Posted by: daCascadian on April 13, 2007 at 4:11 PM | PERMALINK

Sorry to Interrupt: World Bank President Paul Wolfowitz acknowledged Thursday that he erred in helping a close female friend get transferred to a high-paying (read $60,000) job.

Democrats fault.

True, and as further proof:

By Jeannine Aversa, ASSOCIATED PRESS
WASHINGTON – The woman at the heart of the controversy that has embroiled World Bank President Paul Wolfowitz says she is a victim

Posted by: anandine on April 13, 2007 at 4:24 PM | PERMALINK

cowalker wrote: Indeed. If a Democratic presidential candidate spontaneously cheered in a noisy room, and it sounded weird when isolated from the ambient noise, the media would never play it that way in order to make the candidate sound hysterical.

You have a point, cowalker. However, Dean was running in the primaries against the (arguably) more electable Democrat, John Kerry. The media's unfair treatment of Dean probably helped the Democrats. (BTW I will admit that the media did treat Al Gore badly.)

Posted by: ex-liberal on April 13, 2007 at 4:26 PM | PERMALINK

Anadine--you have a crucial fact garbled--it wan't a $60,000 job, it was a $60,000 raise--total salary was something like $195,000.

Posted by: rea on April 13, 2007 at 4:43 PM | PERMALINK

Al's comments, once again, gave me a splitting headache.

Al's comments just make me hungry for pie

Posted by: cleek on April 13, 2007 at 4:58 PM | PERMALINK

If she's sleeping with Paul Spitty-Comb Wolfowitz, she certainly is a victim. One of her own corrupt making, though.

Posted by: shortstop on April 13, 2007 at 4:58 PM | PERMALINK

"ex-liberal" wrote: You have a point, cowalker.

You must be so jealous, "ex-liberal."

Posted by: Gregory on April 13, 2007 at 5:20 PM | PERMALINK

I see that Al, Repukeliscum Party Member extraordinaire, is even stupider than usual. That is of course hard to imagine, but is true.

Posted by: POed Lib on April 13, 2007 at 8:01 PM | PERMALINK

Yes, "Al" - we can see how effective the Stalinist Moonbat LiberalFascist Conspiracy of Intolerance has been at silencing your commentary here on Political Animal. After all, you've complained about it in every post on the thread......
Repeatedly.

[/snark]

Posted by: Jay C on April 13, 2007 at 8:13 PM | PERMALINK

Ooops.
Sorry.

Must have been my inner Trotskyite....

Posted by: Jay C on April 13, 2007 at 8:14 PM | PERMALINK

*Sigh* Late to the thread but...

By the way, I've had my comments deleted and been warned for using 'democrat' party. Because the moderators here at Political Animal have such integrity, I eagerly await something similar happening to Cleek's post.

Al, if you are still "eagerly await[ing]" the deletion of cleek's comment, please, please, continue to do so while holding your breath. Of course, you will indubitably pass out and then start breathing again, but maybe you can avoid a bout of temporary hysteria while fainting. Your neighbors' ears might also appreciate a break from your incessant chest-thumping.

Secondly, Plan B is not an abortion pill. It prevents pregnancy, i.e., it is contraception, a pill that can contribute to reducing the number of abortions. To quote the director of the Center for Bioethics at the University of Pennsylvania, Arthur Caplan, Ph.D.:

Those most likely to use it are couples who are trying to be sexually responsible but suffer a condom failure or women who are forced, tricked or coerced into non-consensual sex.
So your piss ant rant at 2:20 PM is not only false and off-topic in claiming that liberals expel kids for "[m]entioning god in school," it also grossly ignorant if not deliberately misleading in asserting that "the school nurse handing out abortion pills is fine." Good job: two red herrings rolled into one fuckstick.

Finally, a refresher on COMMENTING POLICY posted Apr. 9. Only one rule per Kevin:

If I or my moderators get sufficiently annoyed with you, we will delete your comments. If you don't like it, tough.
Therefore, the PA moderators' "integrity," i.e., being true to themselves, is based on how much you annoy them, which in your case, Al -- as a habitual offender of the intentional misuse of "Democrat Party" and other inflammatory and debunked wingnuttery -- could be frequently inspired.

I personally prefer the mods editing your posts over deleting them entirely to: A) witness how it could propel your little wingnut spinning into orbit, the entertainment value of which is priceless, and B) demonstrate that commenting is a privilege extended by the hospitality of our hosts, Kevin et al. So act like a guest rather than a top of the thread, shrieking self-entitled brat, OK?

However, if you can't seem to control yourself -- gathering from your humpety-dumpety history here, that's a high probability -- feel free to anal-ize your own "Deep Thoughts for Neocon Toads" blog where demented expulsions of superstitious thinking and retention of your stern father idealization will remain unchallenged should you chose to moderate your comments. And I suggest that ex-liberal is certainly capable of lending you support and perhaps additional training in the art of finessed bullshit.

Buh-bye.

(h/t Gregory re: neocon toads)

Posted by: Apollo 13 on April 13, 2007 at 10:12 PM | PERMALINK

rea: Anadine--you have a crucial fact garbled--it wan't a $60,000 job, it was a $60,000 raise--total salary was something like $195,000.

That was a quote of someone else, but you're right; it was a $60,000 raise plus 8% per year ongoing.

Posted by: anandine on April 13, 2007 at 10:14 PM | PERMALINK


GWB: SWALLOW HARDER

Posted by: mr. irony on April 15, 2007 at 5:46 AM | PERMALINK




 

 

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