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April 25, 2007
By: Kevin Drum

BLIND QUOTES....David Ignatius calls for a mission into the heart of darkness:

If you want to hear despair in Washington these days, talk to Republicans...."This is the most incompetent White House I've seen since I came to Washington," said one GOP senator.

[Etc. etc.]

When a presidency is as severely damaged as this one, the normal drill is to empower a strong and politically adept White House chief of staff to make the necessary changes....The current White House chief of staff, Josh Bolten, needs to mount a similar salvage mission, argue several prominent Republicans. They question whether he's politically adept enough. But most of all, they question whether Bolten or anyone else can break through Bush's tight, tough shell and tell him the truth. What's starting to crack isn't the obdurate Bush, but the country.

Politically adept? Bush may have lots of problems with the Hill, as Ignatius documents, but let's face it: this is all about Iraq, and there's no chief of staff in the world who's going to change Bush's mind on that. Until Republicans themselves stop hiding behind blind quotes and start going public with the plain truth themselves, there's no point in pretending that Josh Bolten can do it for them.

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And they don't seem to realize that this isn't really 'incompetence.' Doesn't incompetence imply failure to implement your goals? But Bush's goals don't include good governance. In what way is this presidency damaged? If the president acknowledges--no, 'feels'--no damage, in what way in the presidency damaged? This is like a zen koan.

The truth is, NONE OF THIS IS A PROBLEM FOR GEORGE W. BUSH. So there is no problem. I mean, sure, he'd prefer if 90% of the country adored him, instead of 30%, and if comedians and columnists didn't say nasty things. But he can fix both those problems--and he has. He'll simply only appear before the 30% who do adore him, and ignore the nastiness.

He really _does_ sleep perfectly well at night. (Despite the fact that Laura's suffering, apparently.)

Posted by: gussie on April 25, 2007 at 3:23 PM | PERMALINK

The Bush Administration: Incompetent + Arrogant + Clueless + Corrupt. The quadruple clowns.

Posted by: Robert on April 25, 2007 at 3:25 PM | PERMALINK

They may be incompentent, but..

Gonzo is still there and in control.

Turd Blossom is still there an in control.

Wolfowitz ain't leaving his cushy gig.

Cheney can still shoot a guy in the face and make him apologize for it. He ain't going anywhere.

The press still won't call Capt. Codpiece a liar in spite of all evidence.

They are still going to run out the clock -- nobody C-Plus Augustus wants to keep is leaving before 2009.

The incriminating e-mails won't be found ever.

The DoJ will still do the RNC bidding.

And when the rest of us, Republicans and Democrats alike, are trying to clean up the mess 10 years hence, the $500M Bush Library will still be open to an adoring public.

Posted by: Alan on April 25, 2007 at 3:26 PM | PERMALINK

GOP: Gaggle Of Pussies

Posted by: cleek on April 25, 2007 at 3:27 PM | PERMALINK

Yeah, well, Josh Bolton is no Leo McGarry...:)

Posted by: Blue Girl, Red State (aka G.C.) on April 25, 2007 at 3:30 PM | PERMALINK

There's this silly notion that George Bush is somehow a unique problem, but that if they could just get the RIGHT Republican in there it's all be coming up roses. This is totally wrong, of course. Bush has in most ways been the perfect Republican, implementing all the most favored Republican wish lists of policy. Bush himself isn't the problem. The problem is Republicanism. This is what Republican government looks like. And these are the kind of results it will always produce.

This isn't about a chief of staff, or even about any individual. It's about the fact that Republicans can't govern. Unless the GOP transforms itself utterly, they can never be allowed to run the Executive again.

And that's more than just a problem for Republicans. It's a huge problem for America.

Posted by: jimBOB on April 25, 2007 at 3:38 PM | PERMALINK

...this is all about Iraq, and there's no chief of staff in the world who's going to change Bush's mind on that. Until Republicans themselves stop hiding behind blind quotes and start going public with the plain truth themselves, there's no point in pretending that Josh Bolten can do it for them.

Exactly. These people remind me so much of an alcoholic in denial, trying every possible approach toward and rationalization of their myriad problems...anything and everything to avoid acknowledging that booze is at the root of the toxic equation.

Because if they did make that admission, the answer would be clear, and they don't like the answer one little bit.

Posted by: shortstop on April 25, 2007 at 3:40 PM | PERMALINK

i agree with the central point that there is no chief of staff alive who could revive relations between the white house and repubs in congress. however, the problem is deeper than iraq. there are other issues including purgegate contributing to this. more importantly, bush is irrelevant politically. he's a lame duck president who even under the best of circumstances would be easy to ignore. it's everyone for themselves on capitol hill.

Posted by: mudwall jackson on April 25, 2007 at 3:40 PM | PERMALINK

No Chief of Staff can clean up this mess. The Republicans are stuck with it for another year and 3/4 - unless they want to sign on to an impeachment resolution. If they do, they might just find enough Dems in agreement to pass it.

Posted by: CapitalistImperialistPig on April 25, 2007 at 3:41 PM | PERMALINK

Unfortunately for the poor Republicans Congress, their excruciation will continue as Bush's most powerful allies, the Republicans in Congress, refuse to break out of lockstep.

Posted by: Boronx on April 25, 2007 at 3:43 PM | PERMALINK

I'll second what jimBOB and the others above have been saying. The insularity, ignorance, arrogance and general disdain for thoughtful policy in Bush and the GOP's governing style aren't bugs -- they're a feature. I do believe Bush sleeps well at night and thinks the 30% that are with him are not a deluded minorty of rightwing deadenders, but an avant-garde of people whose positive thoughts and patriotic pixie dust with help everything turn out ok in Iraq.

Posted by: jonas on April 25, 2007 at 3:45 PM | PERMALINK

And they don't seem to realize that this isn't really 'incompetence.'

Bingo! You'd think Republicans would be the first to realize that this is exactly the kind of government they've been advocating and working toward for over a quarter of a century. I realize they've been hiding their real agenda from voters for decades. You will never make me believe they have also been hiding it from themselves.

Posted by: Roddy McCorley on April 25, 2007 at 3:51 PM | PERMALINK

Yup ... jimBob is right .. this issue is far beyond mere politics Democrat or Republican .. the level of damage monkeyboy and his buddies have caused is unprecedented in American history. It will take years for the country to overcome this disaster. And the American public will remember this and severely punish these clowns and the Republician party and their .... oh look! donuts!
.
terminal memory problems will be the death of America.

Posted by: Erika on April 25, 2007 at 3:53 PM | PERMALINK

You will never make me believe they have also been hiding it from themselves.

Mmmm, don't know if I agree with you there. It seems very likely to me that after years of repeating the lies, half-truths and repackagings with straight faces, at least some of them have begun believing the "free enterprise, religious devotion, traditional values, brown people are coming to get us" version of events they sell to their credulous supporters. Others, of course, are as cynical and vicious as Cheney and know exactly what they're doing.

Posted by: shortstop on April 25, 2007 at 3:56 PM | PERMALINK

Thank you, jimBOB.
This administration is the face of Republicanism not just George Bush.
This must be the meme.

Posted by: joeis on April 25, 2007 at 3:56 PM | PERMALINK

David Ignatius >"...What's starting to crack isn't the obdurate Bush, but the country."

Which is EXACTLY what the plan has been/is.

Break the back of the U.S. hedgemony so that other actors can come to the peak of power w/o actually fighting military forces. Bush Handlers, Inc. is the public face of a multinational sindicate (crime based) to shift power away from the public sector to the private back rooms of the powerful "families" (how dare those johnny come lately Americans tell us what to do !).

Welcome to the 16th Century version 2.0 (listen to John Robb et al via this mp3 of the radio show).

"For to win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill" - Sun Tzu

Posted by: daCascadian on April 25, 2007 at 4:04 PM | PERMALINK

There's this silly notion that George Bush is somehow a unique problem, but that if they could just get the RIGHT Republican in there it's all be coming up roses. This is totally wrong, of course. Bush has in most ways been the perfect Republican, implementing all the most favored Republican wish lists of policy. Bush himself isn't the problem. The problem is Republicanism. This is what Republican government looks like. And these are the kind of results it will always produce.

Hear hear. This is what I've said as well: Bush isn't some kind of aberration; he's the apotheosis. This is exactly the kind of governance toward which we've been tending since Reagan came to power.

Today's "conservatives," as I've also noted before, aren't conservatives at all, but reactionaries. And reactionaries are both stupid and dangerous. They have a certain animal cunning that allows them to exploit some of the lowest of human impulses, which helps them win elections, but their grip on other aspects of reality is much more tenuous (hence Iraq and other fiascos).

No, what we have now is exactly what these so-called "conservatives" have wanted for the last thirty to forty years. They are deeply suspicious (if not outright contemptuous) of democracy, and it shows in everything they do.

Posted by: Alek Hidell on April 25, 2007 at 4:05 PM | PERMALINK

GOP complaints of "incompetence" are cognitive dissonance in action. Many if not most of them believed the trickle down/drown government in the bathtub approach would produce a golden age. The fact that it has not is too much for them to process, so they retreat to the illusion it's all about bad execution. Denial isn't just a river to pour billions in stolen foreign aid, after all.

Posted by: just sayin on April 25, 2007 at 4:25 PM | PERMALINK

this is all about Iraq, and there's no chief of staff in the world who's going to change Bush's mind on that

Seriously. If James Baker couldn't, who on earth could? Maybe if Laura and Condi double-teamed him....

Posted by: Disputo on April 25, 2007 at 4:31 PM | PERMALINK

Disputo,
If that wasn't spewable, I've got something that is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tt_YcQlYxyY

Posted by: Joe Klein's conscience on April 25, 2007 at 4:34 PM | PERMALINK

I could be happy if someone could answer one question:

What, exactly, is it that conservatives are trying to conserve?

Posted by: Mooser on April 25, 2007 at 4:46 PM | PERMALINK

Blue Girl.. Bolton ain't even a CJ Cregg in drag!

Posted by: Mr. M on April 25, 2007 at 4:47 PM | PERMALINK

What, exactly, is it that conservatives are trying to conserve?

the wealth of the wealthy

Posted by: cleek on April 25, 2007 at 4:49 PM | PERMALINK

Until Republicans themselves stop hiding behind blind quotes and start going public with the plain truth themselves, there's no point in pretending that Josh Bolten can do it for them.

Oh hush Kevin.

Empires and civilizations come and go.
You know that.

Let our boy king strut and pose,
And choke America with Osama's sand.
It is his time to shine and decide...

Hey!
And doesn't Bush look good in that cowboy hat?
And wouldn't you like to swill a Bud with him?

No biggy Kevin.
No biggy.

Dinosaurs come.
Dinosaurs go.

That's the way it is supposed to be....


Posted by: ROTFLMLiberalAO on April 25, 2007 at 4:50 PM | PERMALINK

But, Republicuns NEED the war. It provides their sole purpose, their power. Endless War is the Republican Plan. To abolish this plan, all Republicans must be removed from office.

Posted by: CT on April 25, 2007 at 4:50 PM | PERMALINK

Buyer's remorse, anyone? Like their ain't a bunch of republicans on the hill thinking, "Aw fuck, this is what I wanted all along? Really?"

Posted by: Mr. M on April 25, 2007 at 4:51 PM | PERMALINK

History is going to eviscerate Bush, but it'll be fair for conservatives in the year 2030 to ask why there wasn't any movement among their centrists to pull the Republican Party back from the edge. After all, it's not as if people like Specter, Grassley, Snowe, Collins -- and a raft of others with influence in the party, whether in or out of political office -- did their country, their party, or themselves the service of speaking up against what was so obviously wrong at the time. This is a cancer that they let spread.

Posted by: chaunceyatrest on April 25, 2007 at 4:51 PM | PERMALINK

GW Bush doesn't make mistakes. Just ask him, and you'll get the "standard" message: "I don't recall..."

Bush, who rests on less than firm psychological footing, is mentally and emotionally unable to accept any reality other than the one he has devised for himself (and therefore, the country). He has painted himself into a corner. He would view any change in direction as an admission of failure, and as he reminds us regularly, "failure is not an option."

Barring some other catastrophic event, Bush will run out his time in office and retire to a life of brush clearing and bike riding, two things at which he seems mildly competent. Mildly.

With his usual sociopathic flair, he will brush off any questions now, or in the future, about his performance in office. It's not that he doesn't care, it is more that he is incapable of caring.

As we'd say in Texas, "He ain't right in the head."

Posted by: Ranger Jay on April 25, 2007 at 4:52 PM | PERMALINK

Oops...

I forgot to title it:

Ode To The Roller-Coaster Ride to Hell...

Posted by: ROTFLMLiberalAO on April 25, 2007 at 4:53 PM | PERMALINK

And Bolton's certainly no Josh Lyman (wipes drool from keyboard).

Seriously, these guys are making me laugh. They're probably getting an earful from the folks at home, and are wandering aimlessly around the halls asking each other, "What do we do now?"

The answer is, get the hell out of the way. Democrats have work to do.

Posted by: merciless on April 25, 2007 at 5:05 PM | PERMALINK
They have a certain animal cunning that allows them to exploit some of the lowest of human impulses….Alek Hidell at 4:05 PM

Bush takes steps to fascism
…It is my argument that, beneath our very noses, George Bush and his administration are using time-tested tactics to close down an open society….
Ten steps follow:
1. Invoke a terrifying internal and external enemy
2. Create a gulag
3. Develop a thug caste
4. Set up an internal surveillance system
5. Harass citizens' groups
6. Engage in arbitrary detention and release
7. Target key individuals
8. Control the press
9. Dissent equals treason
10. Suspend the rule of law
Examples in article

Posted by: Mike on April 25, 2007 at 5:06 PM | PERMALINK

Erika

Unprecidented in American history? Get a grip Erica. I am re-reading Shelby Footes multi-volume history of the civil war. The civil war was unprecidented. At least we aren't shooting each other.

This is more like the mal-administration of Warren Harding, except our current president isn't ashamed of himself. Harding, wasn't he a big time spender Republican too? As I recall America indured the great depression before we recovered from the roaring 20s.

Posted by: Ron Byers on April 25, 2007 at 5:16 PM | PERMALINK

Only an intellectually insecure man could be as stubborn as GwB. To quote a guy from Spike Lee's When the Levees Break, Bush gives C students everywhere a bad name.

Posted by: TJM on April 25, 2007 at 5:21 PM | PERMALINK

What, exactly, is it that conservatives are trying to conserve?

The monarchy.

On another note, Bush bought 99,000 acres in Paraguay last year. What's that about?

Posted by: ExBrit on April 25, 2007 at 5:27 PM | PERMALINK

It is cute to hear people like Rush Limbaugh, who for five years cheered everything GWB did and charged anyone who criticized him with being a traitor, suddenly start to question Bush -- on the grounds of not being conservative enough!

Posted by: Boots Day on April 25, 2007 at 5:36 PM | PERMALINK
What, exactly, is it that conservatives are trying to conserve? Posted by: Mooser on April 25, 2007 at 4:46 PM

Freedum, that is, uh...when people are free to...enjoy the fruits of freedum.

That is, you know...they're free.

Posted by: George Bush on April 25, 2007 at 5:59 PM | PERMALINK

Limbaugh should be made to eat every liberal debasing remark he has ever made, that buffoon, if he turns on Bush.

Amazing that he is allowed by his Loyal Lemmings to come up with excuses for divorcing their pet boy. Red Staters should lynch him for being a turn-coat. Figuratively speaking of course.

Posted by: Zit on April 25, 2007 at 6:15 PM | PERMALINK

Ditto to what Ron Byers said. This isn't remotely as bad as the Civil War. But it has one important thing in common with the Civil War - it is the inevitable, disastrous outcome of the delusion of a group of Southern conservative elites that they could get their way by starting a war. They always said the South was gonna do it again and by God they were right.

Posted by: dcbob on April 25, 2007 at 6:18 PM | PERMALINK

Perfection, dcbob.

Posted by: chaunceyatrest on April 25, 2007 at 6:22 PM | PERMALINK

All the evidence of Bush's brain damage from alcoholism, incompetence in business affairs and general criminality was there in plain view when G.W. Bush came on to the national stage. If the mainstream media had done it's job before the 2000 election and reported Bush's shortcomings and long history of criminal behavior with half as much gusto as they did on Al Gore wearing earth tone suits, we wouldn't be in the God awful mess we find ourselves in.

Posted by: The Conservative Deflator on April 25, 2007 at 6:24 PM | PERMALINK

At least we aren't shooting each other.

The hell we aren't... not to mention soldiers and the non-Americans killed under mismanagement of the Bush regime.

The power grab of unitary executive... unprecedented.

The biggest federal deficit in U.S. history... unprecedented.

The invasion of Iraq was the worst strategic disaster in U.S. history (Lt. Gen. William Odom) ...unprecedented.

The most powerful veep in an American presidency ... unprecedented

If you think the damage done by GOP rule since 1994 and the worst president in U.S. history isn't unprecedented, wait for the history book to come out:

Calamitous presidents, faced with enormous difficulties -- Buchanan, Andrew Johnson, Hoover and now Bush -- have divided the nation, governed erratically and left the nation worse off. In each case, different factors contributed to the failure: disastrous domestic policies, foreign-policy blunders and military setbacks, executive misconduct, crises of credibility and public trust. Bush, however, is one of the rarities in presidential history: He has not only stumbled badly in every one of these key areas, he has also displayed a weakness common among the greatest presidential failures -- an unswerving adherence to a simplistic ideology that abjures deviation from dogma as heresy, thus preventing any pragmatic adjustment to changing realities. Repeatedly, Bush has undone himself, a failing revealed in each major area of presidential performance.
Unprecedented.

No previous president appears to have squandered the public's trust more than Bush has.
Unprecedented.
No other president -- Lincoln in the Civil War, FDR in World War II, John F. Kennedy at critical moments of the Cold War -- faced with such a monumental set of military and political circumstances failed to embrace the opposing political party to help wage a truly national struggle. But Bush shut out [top military advisers and his own Cabinet members] and even demonized the Democrats.
Unprecedented.

Telling Erika to "get a grip," well, I suppose it depends on what "unprecedented" means to you. Looking backwards and making comparisons to former administrations isn't helpful in mitigating the reality we face today and in the future. We have never been here before. Can we overcome? Yes. But let's not deny the precedents of the current regime.

Posted by: Apollo 13 on April 25, 2007 at 6:30 PM | PERMALINK

I'm in the Bush sleeps well camp. Look at the recent SCOTUS decision, the language "abortion doctor". Look tax breaks for the rich. Look at mission accomplished. He cares not a wit about good government or policy. He has done what set set out to do: Stack the courts, cut taxes, fatten corps, relax environmental laws, get Saddam. Dude is batting 1000. Another 18 months and Iraq is somebody elses problem. The GOP may not recover, but Bush will still get his 40 mil library.

Posted by: The fake fake al on April 25, 2007 at 6:38 PM | PERMALINK

DeCascadian sent a shiver down my spine with his conspiracy theory.

Posted by: Emma Anne on April 25, 2007 at 6:50 PM | PERMALINK

Is Josh Lyman really that hot? I mean really? Donna, yes, most definitely, but I mean, I would think Josh average... Definitely not nearly as good looking a man as I... oh wait, what were we talking about?

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Posted by: Mr. M on April 25, 2007 at 7:26 PM | PERMALINK

Emma Anne >"DeCascadian sent a shiver down my spine with his conspiracy theory."

It is what children will be reading in their text documents and watching on their visual gadgets.

All the indicators are there (there is lots more evidence on the public record but I won`t push it). Come to the logical conclusions. Inform yourself.

"...you cannot save your face and your ass at the same time..." - vachon@shadrach.net

Posted by: daCascadian on April 25, 2007 at 7:36 PM | PERMALINK

Holy crap A13, nice comment.

And the thing is, we are now seeing the ultimate backfiring of Karl Rove's overall political theory.

The thing about Rovitics is that they rely upon the enemy. The demonization of the Democrats can't work all that well if there are no democrats to demonize.

It sounds nice, right? You go ahead and ingratiate yourself to a slim majority, and make the rest seem like evil bastards that hate your country, but here's the problem. In order for this to work, you have to keep your enemy around.

At the very least, you would have to keep the Democrats on life support.

Throughout this entire time, you have to keep in mind tha tyou are running a very divided nation, and the trod upon, the demonized, are spending this entire time getting more and more bitter, and unfortunately for Bush43, spending all this bitter time being right.

If you can't take your enemy out, you run the risk of your enemy finding a way to get back in the game, and in this case we are seeing exactly how the administration has let their political foes get back into the game.

Namely, this is the reality overcoming the constituency's ability to suspend disbelief. In Iraq, in the culture of corruption, as we look at the newspaper headlines today, we are seeing scandal after scandal, failure after failure, and with each increasing day, the kool aid itself grows more and more bitter.

And that's when the foe that Karl couldn't erradicate completely is able to muster its forces and make a come back.

We've had some fun little banter about the West Wing, but let's look at it a little more seriously. Leo, in the last season, writes 365 on a white board. Last year, 365 days to solidify a destiny. While that fictional white house was mired in its own problems and scandels, it was able to do something in these last days.

In the current real white house, what do you think the last 365 days are going to look like?

subpoenas

investigations

vetoes that go against vast majorities of the American public

indictments

and convictions...

One HELL of a legacy.

Posted by: Mr. M on April 25, 2007 at 7:36 PM | PERMALINK

It seems very likely to me that after years of repeating the lies, half-truths and repackagings with straight faces, at least some of them have begun believing the "free enterprise, religious devotion, traditional values, brown people are coming to get us" version of events they sell to their credulous supporters.

Speaking of their delusion, from the way that they disclaim all responsibility for failing to prevent the attack that started this whole mess in the first place, I'm half-ready to believe that they've managed to convince themselves that Bill Clinton was actually president on the morning of September 11, 2001 and that George Bush only took over the presidency after the planes hit.

Posted by: Stefan on April 25, 2007 at 7:38 PM | PERMALINK

Hear hear. This is what I've said as well: Bush isn't some kind of aberration; he's the apotheosis ....Today's "conservatives," as I've also noted before, aren't conservatives at all, but reactionaries.

No, conservatives pretty much are and always have been reactionaries at heart. Reactionaries aren't some kind of aberration of conservatism; they're conservatism's apotheosis ....

Posted by: Stefan on April 25, 2007 at 7:41 PM | PERMALINK

The civil war was unprecidented. At least we aren't shooting each other.

No, we're only shooting Iraqis.

This is more like the mal-administration of Warren Harding, except our current president isn't ashamed of himself.

Warren Harding never instigated an illegal and insane war, thereby damaging our national security and international standing and credibility. Harding was merely a genial crook -- Bush, I fear, is much more malevolent.

Posted by: Stefan on April 25, 2007 at 7:44 PM | PERMALINK

"No, conservatives pretty much are and always have been reactionaries at heart. Reactionaries aren't some kind of aberration of conservatism; they're conservatism's apotheosis ...."

Very true. Conservatism is, I guess, conserving how much government actually does. The most pure ideal behind this is no government at all. But since no sane person would honestly think we should give no government a shot, the conservative ideal of government is a minimal government that never acts, but only reacts, and even then only when absolutely positively necessary, like... say... if a giant asteroid were about to slam into the earth.

And even then you'd have a faction trying to privatize the world saving effort.

Now... here's a thought. Over his seven years, Bush has offered several "solutions" that in all actuality would break what they were trying to fix. I think of SocSec when I say this. And many have theorized that maybe he wants to fix them by breaking them in order to achieve that conservative nirvana of reducing government.

Maybe bush is trying to fix government by breaking it and therefore allowing for the privatization of the nation as a whole... maybe?

commentsfromleftfield.com

Posted by: Mr. M on April 25, 2007 at 7:53 PM | PERMALINK

And as an attempt to make clear what I am about...

I am not saying that "We the people..." are doomed or that the end to this adventure has been written. An outcome is still TBD (To Be Determined) & the steps taken WILL decide what group(s) steer & which ones observe.

Inform yourself & those that are open to facts & plans of action. Take action.

"There's this peculiar asymmetry in time which is that you can know
everything you want about the past and you can't change a bit of it
and you can know absolutely nothing about the future but what you
do changes everything
." - Stewart Brand

Posted by: daCascadian on April 25, 2007 at 7:58 PM | PERMALINK

In the current real white house, what do you think the last 365 days are going to look like?

Steve Gilliard used to say -- and may he say it again, soon, and often, insha'Allah -- that the Bushies would spend most of the last year of the second term waiting for Army Group Steiner to pierce the ring around Washington, and rescue the people trapped in the Reichskanzlei.

Posted by: Davis X. Machina on April 25, 2007 at 8:00 PM | PERMALINK

Christ, JOHN Bolton couldn't change his mind at this point.

Posted by: Kenji on April 25, 2007 at 8:08 PM | PERMALINK

Speaking of their delusion, from the way that they disclaim all responsibility for failing to prevent the attack that started this whole mess in the first place, I'm half-ready to believe that they've managed to convince themselves that Bill Clinton was actually president on the morning of September 11, 2001 and that George Bush only took over the presidency after the planes hit.

It wouldn't be the first time. Just ask any wingnut who was President during Ruby Ridge.

Posted by: Disputo on April 25, 2007 at 9:29 PM | PERMALINK

At least we aren't shooting each other.

Tell that to the Tillmans.

Posted by: Disputo on April 25, 2007 at 9:37 PM | PERMALINK

exactamente, Kevin. New chiefs of staff worked to bail out previous presidents because a) the presidents recognized the need to change and had the humility to let it happen and b)they didn't have freaks like Cheney and Rove in the way to sabotage the changes. The first thing any new chief would have to do -- after firing Rove -- is put Cheney in a cage and leave him there until January 2009.
But this isn't going to happen because Bush isn't capable of it. We're looking at a presidency in death spiral.

Posted by: secularhuman on April 25, 2007 at 9:48 PM | PERMALINK

this article by David is huge. he is the mouthpiece for the mainline republicans and this means they are cutting bush, rove and cheney lose.

Posted by: jim on April 25, 2007 at 9:51 PM | PERMALINK

It just breaks my heart to hear what a bad way the Republican congressmen are in over the guy they've been propping up for six years. Boo fucking hoo. Where do I send my sympathy cards?

Posted by: Pat on April 25, 2007 at 10:11 PM | PERMALINK

As usual, the quintessential complacent moderate, Kevin Drum, offers no solution to this dire situation our Republic finds itself in. Wouldn't want to advocate anything risky, would we?

I say - Every day and with every tactic and resource at their disposal, Democrats should be working to destroy and bring down this deeply corrupt, incompetent and unAmerican administration.

Allowing Bush and Cheney to "run out the clock" is to be an accessory after the fact to treason and other high crimes and misdemeanors. I am ashamed that the America I grew up in, has become so complacent, apathetic and downright cowardly, that they allow a man who took us to war on false pretenses, looted the public purse and condoned torture and suspension of habeas corpus, to slink off into the night with no accountability. Lawsuits, articles of impeachment, mass demonstrations, public eggings and rotten tomatoes need to be hurled relentlessly at these criminals until the hideous edifice of conservative nongovernance they have erected, comes crashing down forever.

Posted by: The Conservative Deflator on April 25, 2007 at 10:17 PM | PERMALINK

and Apollo 13: I'm clipping that for the permanent file.

Posted by: secularhuman on April 25, 2007 at 10:33 PM | PERMALINK

--This is a reflection of a complete failure of our system. We have a completely dysfunctional, probably dangerously dysfunctional administration and we have no effective levers to do anything about it. Opposition you say? Where? The little pussyfooting around that the Democrats are doing aint gonna save the republic. If some catastrophe happens -- we are so f-----d --- we have no functional government with any real integrity --- just shells filled over the last six years with incompetent religious and other right wing crazies who aren't even in the same reality, in fact, they may WANT the end time...

I never thought this country would be here but here we are. As we do our lazy spin down into the vortex, what if anything will stop our demise? Anyone, anything?

Posted by: Elie on April 25, 2007 at 11:19 PM | PERMALINK

Senator Reid acts as if he is depressed and has Alzheimers. Rep. Pelosi wears a veil while negotiating international policy without the executive branch consent. Two very tall buildings are missing in NYC and EQ-OBL -Iran wants to send a nuc to Israel and the east cost of the USA. Meanwhile the democratically controlled legislative branches actually have less public confidence and support than the executive branch. Hollywierd is teaching Americans how to deal with child behavior using superb verbal skills. Indeed pseudosophistication, elitism and socialism is on the march in the democratic party.

Posted by: Allen on April 25, 2007 at 11:58 PM | PERMALINK

GOP: Gaggle Of Pussies
Posted by: cleek on April 25, 2007 at 3:27 PM

Could this be related?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nuue_75fZDQ

Artist: The Stooges
Song: Greedy Awful People

I used to like my neighbourhood
It really made me feel good
Until they brought a church and steeple
Greedy awful people

They drive those fuckin' awful cars
And go to rich and shitty bars
Greedy awful people

I'm sad and lonely baby
'Cause I can't live among my class
I'm thinkin' only baby
About scorin' your peice of ass

They buy the channels on TV
And visit every place they see
And ruin it instantly
Greedy awful people

They always clap on the wrong beat
They're wearin loafers on their feet
Greedy awful people

I'm sad and lonely baby
Because I can't live among my class
I am thinkin' only baby
About scoring your peice of ass

'Cause I'm upper class
Greedy awful people
They bother me so
I don't wanna know
Greedy awful people
Throw 'em in a hole
I get all out of control
Greedy awful people
This is the last chorus
I don't wanna bore us

Hey!

Greedy awful people

Posted by: Doc at the Radar Station on April 26, 2007 at 12:22 AM | PERMALINK

Wow, 67 comments, and not a single "Viva Bush!" comment from any of the usual gang of bushlickers and trolls. Maybe, at long last, they feel a sense of shame...


Naw.

Posted by: craigie on April 26, 2007 at 1:51 AM | PERMALINK

95% of the Republicans who criticize Bush vote in lockstep with their fellow bastiges. Who takes their scruples seriously? Nobody.

Posted by: Jeffrey Davis on April 26, 2007 at 8:01 AM | PERMALINK

The worst of the worst self-styled mouthpiece for the administration Bill Kristol is on The Washington Journal this morning, still denying there is civil war in Iraq, saying we should spend as much as possible for anything and everything as the host mentions a cost of ten million to rebuild a very small section of just one city and the Iraqi government unwilling/unable to offer money for anything, (referencing a Max Boot article)...
Kristol was asked by a caller about his involvement in the Project for a New American Century, he smirked--a sickening smile--jotted notes, was called a despicable chicken hawk who never served yet a relentless warmonger, said in response that the world is now safer. Another caller said he saw Kristol in a gay parade at Providence. US soldiers' wives noted how he must sleep at night much better than they do, when the door bell rings, their children freeze in fear of news their father died in Iraq.
He was unmoved. I was moved to stop watching this megalomaniac and his Napoleon complex.

Posted by: consider wisely always on April 26, 2007 at 8:18 AM | PERMALINK

Don't want to get all Second Inaugural on you, but . . . "the judgments of the Lord, are true and righteous altogether".
That judgment here being the result of the slow motion coup that took place in Florida in 2000. The majority of the country acquiesced actively or passively in that crime, and we are now paying the price for that lack of faith in democracy. This is what happens when a democracy chooses expedience.

Posted by: Steve Paradis on April 26, 2007 at 8:47 AM | PERMALINK

Welcome to the 16th Century version 2.0 - daCascadian

If we're exceeding lucky. I'm betting on 14th Century 2.0:

Plague, famine, feudalism and unending war on a scale greater by a couple of magnitudes owing to the sheer size of the populations involved and the WMD available.


If there's anything that is in short supply in the world today its people who are willing to think. So here's a challenge. Can you think of any problem, on any scale, from microscopic to global, whose long term solutions is in any demonstratable way, aided, assisted or advanced by having larger populations in our local levels, state levels, national level, or global level? Can you think of anything that can get better if we crowd more people into our cities, our towns, into our state our nation or on this earth?
http://globalpublicmedia.com/transcripts/645
Dr. Albert Bartlett: Arithmetic, Population and Energy

Posted by: MsNThrope on April 26, 2007 at 9:24 AM | PERMALINK

daCascadian - thanks for that link. I've just bookmarked radioopensource.org

Have you by any chance read 'The Return of the Player' by Michael Tolkin ?

And I certainly agree with much that Robb has to say.

"Security will become a function of where you live and whom you work for, much as health care is allocated already. Wealthy individuals and multinational corporations will be the first to bail out of our collective system, opting instead to hire private military companies, such as Blackwater and Triple Canopy, to protect their homes and facilities and establish a protective perimeter around daily life. Parallel transportation networks — evolving out of the time-share aircraft companies such as Warren Buffett’s NetJets — will cater to this group, leapfrogging its members from one secure, well-appointed lily pad to the next."
John Robb

This future is tomorrow or the next day. Why else are our plutocrats so anxiously, so desperately, so urgently, looting everything of value? Their disconnection from the lives of 99.99% of humanity is already verging on the absolute.

'The symbiotic relationship between workers, entrepreneur and investors is being been
supplanted by parasitism, as the wealthy impoverish the middle class which is, ultimately, the source of their wealth.' - Dr. Ernest Partridge

Posted by: MsNThrope on April 26, 2007 at 9:46 AM | PERMALINK

Is Josh Lyman really that hot?

Yes. Oh, my, yes.

(Sorry, I know this is a serious discussion and all, but the question was asked...)

Posted by: merciless on April 26, 2007 at 10:35 AM | PERMALINK
The civil war was unprecidented. At least we aren't shooting each other.

No, we're only shooting Iraqis.

Umm, not to be nitpicky, but how many Blackwater "security consultants" are currrently deployed inside the continental US?

Posted by: kenga on April 26, 2007 at 11:17 AM | PERMALINK

Why doesn't Karl Rove act for the sake of the Republican establishment, which he supposedly cares about, and confront Bush? Does he know something (like, just how tenacious and awful the right-wing base really is, and how little they care about the good of the nation anyway), or is he really the hippie infiltrator (like Cheney and Bush) of the great Tom Tomorrow cartoon, acting deliberately to ruin conservatism? (PS - in the cartoon, their followers kept liking them anyway, no matter how horrible they were! The plan didn't work... T.T. was hardly being facetious - maybe that's the point....)

Posted by: Neil B. on April 26, 2007 at 12:09 PM | PERMALINK




 

 

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