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June 17, 2007
By: Kevin Drum

U.S. OPEN THREAD....So is there anyone who thinks this Baddeley dude is going to beat Tiger Woods today?

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I give him about a fifteen percent chance.

Posted by: steve on June 17, 2007 at 1:19 PM | PERMALINK

PAul Casey by a stroke.

Posted by: ed on June 17, 2007 at 1:27 PM | PERMALINK

Baddeley has an excellent chance. Tiger is going to have a tough time matching the performance he put on yesterday.

I like Tiger but I'm rooting for Baddeley.

Posted by: jharp on June 17, 2007 at 1:42 PM | PERMALINK

Screw Bads. I'm so tired of people like him (and Zack Johnson) who think that, if there is a master force that created the universe, that It cares what kind of golf shot white millionaire males hit.

Posted by: Gore/Edwards 08 on June 17, 2007 at 1:45 PM | PERMALINK

I was there all day Thursday and much of Saturday, and my cousin (in town for the tourney) was also there all day Friday. He likes Justin Rose. I just want to say that the course is crazy hard. Very good shots run off the green, drives that land *in the fairway* take huge hops off the weird contours and into hazards, etc.

I dislike Bads, but hats off to him for being only 2 over after three rounds there. Yeesh. But the course is BS -- the best players, except for Tiger, all missed the cut or were out of it after yesterday. One bad bounce and you make bogey or far worse. On Thursday, 58% of the field had a double or worse -- these are the best players in the world!

But for the second major in a row, Tiger is in the last group, in second place, with an Australian. Let's hope that this one turns out better than the Masters!

I was traveling for the Masters. Did people expect Tiger to win that the same way they expect him to win today?

Posted by: Gore/Edwards 08 on June 17, 2007 at 1:50 PM | PERMALINK

Remember that Tiger has yet to win a major where he didn't already have a share of the lead coming into Sunday. And he doesn't have a share of the lead now. So I'd personally hold off on handing him the trophy until he actually goes out and wins it.

Posted by: Trickster on June 17, 2007 at 1:58 PM | PERMALINK

I like the course being nearly impossible. You are playing against the other players so who cares what the number is. A win is a win.

I had the pleasure of playing Oakmont a few years ago and what a treat it was.

Unbelievibly slick greens.

Posted by: jharp on June 17, 2007 at 2:09 PM | PERMALINK

no

Posted by: Gary on June 17, 2007 at 2:11 PM | PERMALINK

I agree jharp, that the number doesn't matter. But I don't like a course where a good shot is penalized, where there is, on many greens (as it is playing now), a 3'x3' landing area that, otherwise, you will be off the green.

Posted by: Gore/Edwards 08 on June 17, 2007 at 2:13 PM | PERMALINK

Kevin, Badds, Paul Casey and Justin Rose are all stars-in-waiting, each capable of pulling off this win. But there is no reason to PREDICT anyone other than Tiger winning, other than a desire to see someone other than Tiger winning. I'll be happy either way. Tiger is the best ever, by a long way, and seeing another win by the best-ever isn't a bad thing. Neither is watching a youngster step up to the next level. We can't lose today! Unless Stephen Ames wins ... we'll be following this over at WaggleRoom.com, the golf blog of Kos' SportsBlogs Nation network. Come on over...

Posted by: Mulligan Stu on June 17, 2007 at 2:14 PM | PERMALINK

Gore/Edwards 08,

I love playing under such conditions. Very excting seesaw battles. Only for money though.

Posted by: jharp on June 17, 2007 at 2:37 PM | PERMALINK

I'd say Tiger's inability to win a major coming from behind on the final day is roughly comparable to Roger Federer's inability to beat Nadal. Tiger often smokes the field, or the person in the final pairing implodes like Sergio Garcia, but he's had chances like this in this year's Masters and the 2005 U.S. Open, but lost to a comparative unknown who managed to hold his nerve.

Woods' failure is of a lesser magnitude--no idiot will say he's not the greatest of all time like they'll say about Federer if he doesn't win the French--but is something of a weird quirk. For a player so much better than his peers, it would just be strange for him to never have had a come from behind win over decent but not great golfers like Michael Campbell or Zach Johnson.

Posted by: boatshoes on June 17, 2007 at 2:38 PM | PERMALINK

In passing, Casey is a good player who could get the job done. I'm glad to see Justin Rose is fulfilling the promise he showed when he finished 2 shots back at St. Andrews when he was 17(!), especially after some pretty awful years to start his career.

Oddly enough, that was a tournament where Woods shot 4 under the final day but finished a stroke behind winner Mark O'Meara.

Posted by: boatshoes on June 17, 2007 at 2:41 PM | PERMALINK

I'm a huge Tiger fan, but do not count out this kid Baddeley. He won Aussie Open as an amateur and repeated the following year as a pro.
He putts as well as anyone when he's on.
If he keeps his nerve on the tee and finds fairways will give Tiger a run.

Posted by: meade on June 17, 2007 at 3:07 PM | PERMALINK

I never got the draw that watching golf has.

I'd rather watch paint dry.

Now playing is a different story. But watching it on the tube?

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

Posted by: Dr. Morpheus on June 17, 2007 at 3:11 PM | PERMALINK

Until this morning, I had never heard of him. But while reading the paper during breakfast, I discovered that this 26 year-old Australian (who lived there since the age of two) was born in - Lebanon, New Hampshire, where I live and work.

I suddenly have a rooting interest!

Posted by: Ed Tracey on June 17, 2007 at 3:19 PM | PERMALINK

I think i just jinxed Baddeley. He starts with triple-bogey. Yikes!

Posted by: meade on June 17, 2007 at 3:39 PM | PERMALINK

Angel!

Again, Tiger blows the lead on Sunday. Wow!

Masters replay.

80 for Bads. To bad for those who bet on him.

Posted by: Gore/Edwards on June 17, 2007 at 7:40 PM | PERMALINK

I live in the vacinity of the area where they are playing. Oakmont took out 5000 trees for this event. Tiger looked beautiful but my heart ached for Phil Mickelson.
The weather is here. Wish you were beautiful.

Whoops.

Posted by: consider wisely always on June 17, 2007 at 7:43 PM | PERMALINK

I agree with BoatShoes. Tigers inability to come from behind is a hugely weird quirk. Two times he's had the lead on Sunday and choked (c'mon -- double bogey on three from the middle of the fairway??) And he has really gotta be kicking himself, and should take a good, long look in the mirror. Seeing, of course, only hundreds of millions of dollars, and a blond bombshell wife.

Posted by: Gore/Edwards on June 17, 2007 at 8:58 PM | PERMALINK

What in the heck what Furyk thinking hitting the driver on 17. Costly mental error. He' be in a playoff tomorrow without it.

That said I'm glad the Cabrear won. We could use a little more diversity in the winners circle and he deserved it.

Cheers to you, Angel.

Posted by: jharp on June 17, 2007 at 10:06 PM | PERMALINK

Hard to say, Kevin. After all, there are still some people who believe the WMD's are in Syria, and that Scooter was 'railroaded'.

Cabrera played a heckuva' round. Congrats.

Posted by: bobbyp on June 17, 2007 at 11:25 PM | PERMALINK

"What in the heck what Furyk thinking hitting the driver on 17"

Snead going for the green in 2 at Spring Mill in '39, Mickelson pulling out the driver on the 18th last year....what can you say? Some kind of USGA swamp fever.

Posted by: bobbyp on June 17, 2007 at 11:43 PM | PERMALINK

Saw the final tonight. Happy bounced a trick shot through the fallen TV gantry, beating Shooter McGavin by one stroke.

Posted by: doug r on June 18, 2007 at 2:32 AM | PERMALINK

Ride the bull, Happy.

Posted by: doug r on June 18, 2007 at 2:34 AM | PERMALINK

$100 sez Baddely takes it.

Posted by: Day Late Dollar Short on June 18, 2007 at 8:47 AM | PERMALINK

Tiger didn't lose. Someone else winning just shows how much progress he's making. The next six months will be crucial in determining how well he does this year.

Posted by: Gomer on June 18, 2007 at 11:05 AM | PERMALINK

Personally, I am sick of Tiger Woods. Whatever tournament he is in the talk is ALWAYS about him. Sports page I read Sunday morning, did not give the leader, but read that Tiger was 2 strokes behind the leader. I know I sound like Jan Brady but TIGER,TIGER,TIGER thats all I ever hear!

Posted by: iggy on June 18, 2007 at 11:29 AM | PERMALINK

How'd Greg Norman do?

Posted by: PapaJijo on June 18, 2007 at 12:30 PM | PERMALINK

I predict Angel Cabrera will beat Tiger by a stroke.

Posted by: ex-liberal on June 18, 2007 at 1:03 PM | PERMALINK

wow, we have a first! ex-lib actually remembered history correctly!

will wonders never cease?

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