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June 29, 2007

MAN BITES DOG....Several readers have asked about Friday Cat Blogging, which, I'm afraid, will have to wait until Kevin returns. In its absence, how about a different pet-related story?

An example of Mitt Romney's crisis management skills has turned into something of a political problem for the Republican presidential contender.

Romney placed his family dog, an Irish setter named Seamus, into a kennel lashed to the top of his station wagon for a 12-hour family trip from Boston to Ontario in 1983. Despite being shielded by a wind screen the former Massachusetts governor erected, Seamus expressed his discomfort with a diarrhea attack.

Now the story, recounted this week in a Boston Globe profile of Romney, has touched off howls of outrage from bloggers and animal rights activists even though it was presented in the story as an example of Romney's coolness under trying circumstances.

Is this story important to the presidential race? Not really, but it's one of those nagging stories that's been, ahem, dogging Romney's campaign all week. He was even forced to respond at a press event yesterday, telling reporters the dog "enjoyed" being on the roof.

It seems like a stretch to think that a story like this could hurt Romney's chances in the presidential race, but there are a lot of dog owners out there who wouldn't dream of sticking their family pet on the roof of a car.

And just to make thing extra interesting, Time reported, "Massachusetts's animal cruelty laws specifically prohibit anyone from carrying an animal 'in or upon a vehicle, or otherwise, in an unnecessarily cruel or inhuman manner or in a way and manner which might endanger the animal carried thereon.' An officer for the Massachusetts Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals responded to a description of the situation saying 'it's definitely something I'd want to check out.'"

It's a story with, ahem, legs.

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now, that's *my* kind of cat blogging.

your pal,
blake

Posted by: blake on June 29, 2007 at 5:15 PM | PERMALINK

He lashed the kennel to the roof of the car? WTF? That is insane.

The dog "enjoyed" being on the roof like LBJ's beagles "enjoyed" being picked up by their ears. I only hope Mitt got splattered by Seamus' Revenge.

Posted by: shortstop on June 29, 2007 at 5:16 PM | PERMALINK

Dogs Love Trucks.

Posted by: osama_been_forgotten on June 29, 2007 at 5:19 PM | PERMALINK

Uh, Steve, you better get hold of some cat pics ASAP. Cat pics are a staple here on Friday. Some of the "regulars" get up in the morning EXPECTING to see CATS.

We don't care 'bout no stinkin' dogs!

Posted by: phoebes on June 29, 2007 at 5:20 PM | PERMALINK

To Shortstop's point, the dog actually did have his "revenge"--at which point Mitt stopped, hosed down the car and the dog at a gas station, and then went driving on with the dog still on the roof. This is the point, for me, when it passes from stupidity into cruelty.

Posted by: Dan Miller on June 29, 2007 at 5:24 PM | PERMALINK

"It's a story with, ahem, legs.

And, just like Mitt himself, a cold, wet nose!

Posted by: Quaker in a Basement on June 29, 2007 at 5:25 PM | PERMALINK

Kevin, how is what Romney did cruel at all? Romney just allowed the dog to have the wind blow on him by putting him on the roof. This is no different than riding in a convertible with the top down which also lets the wind blow on the passengers. Are you going to support banning all pets from sitting in convertibles with the top down also? *Snicker*

Posted by: Al on June 29, 2007 at 5:25 PM | PERMALINK

The county where I live has a sheriff who treats animals better than the people serving time in his jail, and he makes it a point to track down all animal cruelty cases. Mitt would be serving time in Tent City, and the temperatures have been over 110 F for the last few weeks and will be that high until the end of August. Animals are in the air conditioned jail.

Posted by: Brojo on June 29, 2007 at 5:30 PM | PERMALINK

On the other hand, tying Al to the roof would be AOK.

Posted by: Michael7843853 G-O in 08! on June 29, 2007 at 5:31 PM | PERMALINK

What I enjoy about Al is that he jumps the guy who is jumping the shark. His sentences are so absurd now that they are entirely devoid of any meaning, other than to be measured against his immediately preceding utterances on other posts to determine which one inspires more guffaws.

Posted by: Jacek on June 29, 2007 at 5:32 PM | PERMALINK

Letterman, Leno, etc are all writing Romney a big "Thank you" letter for the "Comedy Gold" of putting your dog on top of a car...

http://www.vvork.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/Dog_Rising.jpg

Posted by: Robert on June 29, 2007 at 5:37 PM | PERMALINK

Hosing the dog down may have cleaned the car off, but the dog then was allowed to freeze in the breeze (ever heard of swamp coolers anyone?). Romney strikes me as a twit

Posted by: Carol on June 29, 2007 at 5:37 PM | PERMALINK

I don't think it's a stretch. What better crystallization of Romney's character and judgment do you think we'll get?

Posted by: along on June 29, 2007 at 5:41 PM | PERMALINK

Wow. Romney must be one of the few people who saw Chevy Chase in "Family Vacation" and thought, "Damn, *that's* what I gotta do next time!"

Posted by: Chris on June 29, 2007 at 5:44 PM | PERMALINK

I think this proves that Romney is willing to clean dogshit from his car with a hose.

Much less can be said of the other Republicans who want to be President.

Posted by: gregor on June 29, 2007 at 5:48 PM | PERMALINK

You're not a catlover? Doglover? Bassetlover? Ferretlover? What's the matter with you?

Posted by: catlover on June 29, 2007 at 5:48 PM | PERMALINK

It's not only the fact that he did all this.

It's the fact that the Boston Globe described it in their expose on him as a lauditory anecdote, pointing to it as proof that he had no problem making decisions under pressure.

To be honest, the whole thing didn't make me say, "Now you see, he took a crisis and handled it without panic! That's a real leader there!" It made me say, "The sick bastard tied his dog to the roof, and when it crapped over the window, he just hosed it down and put it back up there? Geezus...."

Posted by: Kryptik on June 29, 2007 at 5:49 PM | PERMALINK

[blogwhoring]

Strannix has kitties, and I have (Science) Friday Catblogging: Kevin is on vacation edition.

It's not Inkblot, but really, who is?

[/blogwhoring]

Posted by: Blue Girl, Red State (aka G.C.) on June 29, 2007 at 5:49 PM | PERMALINK

You can tell the dog "enjoyed" being on the car roof. Everyone I know shows their enjoyment by crapping themselves. It's a natural response.

Why the man wasn't arrested for animal abuse is beyond me.

Posted by: gummitch on June 29, 2007 at 5:54 PM | PERMALINK

Whether the issue is abortion, stem cell research, rights for gay Americans or even his state of residence, Mitt Romney's rhetorical contortions have become legendary. As the Boston Globe suggested Sunday, Romney's flip-flopping even extends to his Vietnam draft deferment.

For the details, see:
"Man on a Mission: Romney's Vietnam Deferment."

Posted by: Furious on June 29, 2007 at 5:56 PM | PERMALINK

We don't care 'bout no stinkin' dogs!
Posted by: phoebes

Bah. Only thing wrong with this blog is there are too many damn cats.

Posted by: gummitch on June 29, 2007 at 5:59 PM | PERMALINK

Mitt has recently reversed his position on this issue. He now rides in a box on the roof of the limo and shits all over himself.

Posted by: chance on June 29, 2007 at 6:09 PM | PERMALINK

I think that being trapped in a cage, exposed to the wind and elements and being hosed down is probably a good metaphor for what New Orleans residents can expect from a Romney Administration's handling of the next major hurricane.

Posted by: osama_been_forgotten on June 29, 2007 at 6:13 PM | PERMALINK

In the case of an accident, an unrestrained pet will be ejected or killed. A pet in an open bed or strapped to the roof would be killed in a rollover.

While carrying animals atop in cages or in pickup or flat beds is common, it isn't safe. Most certainly not safe for highway driving.

But can we get past this already? We know Republicans are heartless.

Posted by: Crissa on June 29, 2007 at 6:17 PM | PERMALINK

It would be really funny if this story was made up to make him sound like a clever family guy or something.

It must be tough to think through all the implications of whatever image your trying to convey at the moment.

Posted by: es on June 29, 2007 at 6:26 PM | PERMALINK

In the case of an accident, an unrestrained pet will be ejected or killed. A pet in an open bed or strapped to the roof would be killed in a rollover.
Posted by: Crissa on June 29, 2007 at 6:17 PM | PERMALINK

Local story here, about a farmer who had his dog in the back of his truck, (and I see it all the time around here) - he was driving drunk, went off the road into a ravine. The dog was thrown clear of the wreck, completely uninjured (or, possibly jumped clear before the truck went over the side), went back in through the broken windshield to pull the guy out. Then, after several hours, when he didn't regain consciousness, and no rescuers came, the dog got hungry began munching away at his face.

Posted by: osama_been_forgotten on June 29, 2007 at 6:28 PM | PERMALINK

Where does Kevin go on vacation?

Does he have the cats strapped to the roof of his car even now?

Posted by: cld on June 29, 2007 at 6:31 PM | PERMALINK

osama,

That's why I don't have a dog. They always have that look about them.

Posted by: cld on June 29, 2007 at 6:33 PM | PERMALINK

Ah, Kevin.

Shroter Kevin Drum: "Millions of fetusses get murdured every year, terrorists kill thousands every year, market regulations result in untold deprivation, but oh my G_d! Someone put a dog on top of their car to make room for their children in the car!!! Put him in jail!!!"

Actually Kevin. Perhaps you never noticed that horses travel in half open trailer things which are probable less comforatble than a dog kennel. People mail animals like fish and reptiles. Illegal aliens travel all contorted under the hood of smuggler cars. Another non-story here.

Posted by: egbert on June 29, 2007 at 6:41 PM | PERMALINK

That's why I don't have a dog. They always have that look about them.
Posted by: cld on June 29, 2007 at 6:33 PM | PERMALINK

That's why I've got TWO dogs. If they fight over me, then I've left this world worthy of something.

Posted by: osama_been_forgotten on June 29, 2007 at 6:42 PM | PERMALINK

Come on everyone, haven't you ever been so happy you just plain lost control of your bowels?

Nice story OBF. I'll sleep well tonight.

I'll step in in Kevin's absence. My wife has been putting cat pictures up on her knitting blog. Here's an example:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/octopusknits/530060205/

Posted by: B on June 29, 2007 at 6:44 PM | PERMALINK

Shroter Egbert: My parents often entrusted me myself to the US Postal system when they wanted to do stuff without me knowing about it and I'm no worse for where. That dog had it lucky.

Posted by: cld on June 29, 2007 at 6:46 PM | PERMALINK

What I don't get is why didn't he just strap the luggage to the rack and carry the dog inside the car?

Posted by: Daryl Cobranchi on June 29, 2007 at 6:50 PM | PERMALINK

We don't need another idiot in the White House. We already have one.

Posted by: slanted tom on June 29, 2007 at 6:56 PM | PERMALINK

What I don't get is why didn't he just strap the luggage to the rack and carry the dog inside the car?

Posted by: Daryl Cobranchi

Because it already had diarrhea.

Posted by: slanted tom on June 29, 2007 at 6:58 PM | PERMALINK

Even Shorter Egbert: I think the name "Kevin" is spelled S-T-E-V-E.

Posted by: C.L. on June 29, 2007 at 7:04 PM | PERMALINK

My first reaction to the Romney story was the same as most, disgust towards Mitt and pity towards Mutt.

Upon reflection and some additional (perhaps spun) information, I've softened a bit.

The big options are
1. Do the Romney
2. Kennel the dog for your vacation

They obviously did #1 wrong, but they did include the dog as part of their family on vacation as best as they could manage, and that shows love for the animal.

No, the dog shouldn't be on the roof. But that was probably the dog's first trip that way, and a little freaked, thus the poop. I've seen plenty of dogs in the backs of pickups, and this is not much worse than that. And finally, they Romneys claim that the dog later enjoyed the rides and was excited to get into the car top kennel (even if only for the vacation association).

So, overall, a hearty what were you thinking, but really no reflection on monstrous character.

Posted by: mere mortal on June 29, 2007 at 7:08 PM | PERMALINK

osama, many have been canonized for less.

Posted by: cld on June 29, 2007 at 7:10 PM | PERMALINK

Well, thanks egbert. I can rest easy knowing that as long as I'm not murdering millions of people, I'm A-O-K in your book!

Posted by: osama_been_forgotten on June 29, 2007 at 7:11 PM | PERMALINK

no offense, but this is a non-story. here in arkansas, ppl carry dogs in the back of their trucks all the time, and nobody says anything. i don't see how this is that much different.

Posted by: sameoldjeff on June 29, 2007 at 7:29 PM | PERMALINK

In Oregon we have to keep dogs in pickups restrained or in kennels -- and, IMHO, there's a huge difference between being put in a pickup bed behind the cab and being placed on top of the cab or on the top of a car at freeway speeds.

1) 10mph turbulence vs. sustained 70mph winds.

2) limited exposure and sightlines, vs. complete 360 degree exposure.

I suggest sameoldjeff put his dog up on top of his pickup cab in Arkansas and see how many cops he passes before he gets pulled over.

Posted by: B on June 29, 2007 at 7:55 PM | PERMALINK

I've been following this story closely and I don't understand why the dog carrier was put on top of the vehicle. For someone of Romney's means a trailer rental or a roof rack for luggage should have been no problem. I have a house dog and I have lately had to travel a lot and, luckily, I have a friend who will dogsit while I'm away.

I am also curious about the protection provided for this dog during this 12 hour trip. Dogs eyes do not naturally tear to provide lubrication and constant wind is severely damaging to their vision. Sounds like animal cruelty to me, but I'm sure there will be no accountability other than at the ballot box.

Romney is a loser and deserves no support from any thinking animal lover!

f.

Posted by: sebastian on June 29, 2007 at 8:13 PM | PERMALINK

"no offense, but this is a non-story. here in arkansas, ppl carry dogs in the back of their trucks all the time, and nobody says anything. i don't see how this is that much different."

Are these people kidding, I am an old S.C. redneck and even I see the difference between putting a dog in a pick up truck to ride across town (which I don't do) and riding for a dozen hours with him on the highway strapped to the roof and FYI the stories I saw said Boston to Ontario, Canada, that drive is like 20 plus hours not 12. Emotion free crisi managment by hosing down a poor pup before subjecting him to 80 mph winds again. Who "panics" so badly they can't clean up when a dog poops? Who in the hell thought this would have been a positive story??? Romney I guess, but in juxaposition to what?

"While most people would have mortified by dog excriment and crippled by the petrifying fear of dog poop, not super hero Mitt - this genius just voluntarily subjected his dog to almost certain hypo thermia" Thanks but not thanks on Romney he isn't even fit to own a dog.

Posted by: Silence Dogood on June 29, 2007 at 9:04 PM | PERMALINK

Somehow I expect the cat fanatics around here might not be as sympathetic because it was a dog being imposed upon...

Posted by: MNPundit on June 29, 2007 at 9:16 PM | PERMALINK

MNPundit, I disagree with your observation about "cat fanatics" not caring about it because it's a dog. I think you'll find that most "cat fanatics" at least like dogs, and in any case, would not want ANY animal treated like that.

All the others who pointed out how cruel it was are exactly right. That poor dog was exposed to hours of wind and weather. Why NOT load the luggage on top and put the dog in the car? This is a crazy story.

Posted by: phoebes on June 29, 2007 at 9:42 PM | PERMALINK

Here's hoping that this story has more legs than the $400 haircut. A few more like this for every Republican, please.

Posted by: lahke on June 29, 2007 at 10:15 PM | PERMALINK

ebgert:

Just gotta remind you that human life has no inherent sanctity. What we value is "personhood" (experience, interests, sentience), not life (existence). So killing a fetus is in no way ethically problematic.

This is my new strategy, friends. Blunt reasoning, ad nauseum. Humans can be trained in much the same way as animals.. you just have to be willing to put in the hours. It'll sink in eventually.

Posted by: Kyle on June 29, 2007 at 10:31 PM | PERMALINK

He should have just put the dog inside the car.

Posted by: Swan on June 29, 2007 at 11:09 PM | PERMALINK

And, you know, the 'kennel' was probably little more than a wire cage.

Remember that bit in There's Something About Mary?

Posted by: cld on June 29, 2007 at 11:13 PM | PERMALINK

strap the motherf***ers to the roof and let them die111

p.s. hey master - steve isn't feeding us enough111

Posted by: inkblot & domino on June 29, 2007 at 11:25 PM | PERMALINK

Yeah, this didn't particularly strike me as an example of crisis management either. My reaction was, "Is the guy nuts?"

Even Tucker Carlson was shocked. And when you've lost Tucker . . .

Posted by: THS on June 29, 2007 at 11:29 PM | PERMALINK

Horrible story. I see stuff fall off the roofs of people's cars all the time. Once, a mattress flew off (looking like a slice of bread in the Giant Jam Sandwich picture book) on the freeway. My car was lucky not to hit it. A friend says she saw some people driving with a mattress on the roof of their car, holding on to the mattress with their hands. The dog carrier could have come loose and fallen off and (eve if it did not cause a crash) the dog would be a red smear on the highway.

No living thing should be tied to the top of a car, period (possible exception for Christmas trees).

Posted by: sara on June 30, 2007 at 12:18 AM | PERMALINK

Releasing this story was clearly a smart move by the Gott Mittens team. Why, think of how this can be spun into campaign slogans:

Mitt, pioneered terrorist interrogation techniques before it was cool!

Mitt, even more hose-related experience than your average politician.

Mitt, fluid solutions to crappy problems!

Mitt, his solutions will have you crapping yourselves with excitement!

Mitt, no flies on him. Well, none that can't be hosed off, anyway.

Mitt, proven somewhat less incompetent in a crisis than Gee-W!

Mitt, looks good, smells great, and more effective than a high colonic.

Posted by: N.Wells on June 30, 2007 at 1:12 AM | PERMALINK

My reaction was, "Is the guy nuts?"

What amazes me about this story is that it was originally circulated by the Romney campaign, apparently in the beleif that most Americans would think better of Romney for his having done such a thing . . .

Posted by: rea on June 30, 2007 at 1:17 AM | PERMALINK

friend says she saw some people driving with a mattress on the roof of their car, holding on to the mattress with their hands.

that was me! luckily the cats could steer

Posted by: thersites on June 30, 2007 at 1:19 AM | PERMALINK

Posted by: Silence Dogood on June 29, 2007 at 9:04:
Are these people kidding, I am an old S.C. redneck and even I see the difference between putting a dog in a pick up truck to ride across town (which I don't do) and riding for a dozen hours with him on the highway strapped to the roof and FYI the stories I saw said Boston to Ontario, Canada, that drive is like 20 plus hours not 12.

While I find Romney's actions despicable, driving from Boston to Ontario can easily be done in less than 12 hours, depending on WHERE in Ontario one is headed. I've made the drive from Detroit to Boston via Ontario in approx 12 hours when really hustling. I'd guess one could make it from Boston to Niagra falls in 9 or so ... of course the added weight/resistance of strapping a dog to one's roof would probably add to the trip time. And once over the border, I don't suppose the OPP would be amused at the sight.

Posted by: G.Kerby on June 30, 2007 at 1:29 AM | PERMALINK

Good point Kerby, and If you drive fast enough most of the crap flys over the trunk.

Posted by: asdf on June 30, 2007 at 1:40 AM | PERMALINK

A 12 hr. journey to Ontario is actually equal to about 60 hrs., when measured as a fraction of the dog's life.

Posted by: lampwick on June 30, 2007 at 1:56 AM | PERMALINK

If this had been a story dug up by oppo research or by an intrepid reporter, it would be a non-story. The thing that makes it significant (and appalling) is that Mitt thinks this is a positive story. The overwhellming impression is that never, not once in 20 years, did Mitt imagine himself in the dog's position. He never thought that anybody would say, upon being told this story, "That poor dog! He mus have been absolutely terrified!" Never.
I don't know if it's a favorite story or not--it might not be. But if it is, it also says something about his environment. Is he another boy in a bubble?

Posted by: pbg on June 30, 2007 at 2:02 AM | PERMALINK

Mitt, because everybody likes fresh air!


Roadkill can't vote. You can. Think Mitt.


Mitt, a unique history of imprisoning and torturing the helpless.


Mitt, "He thinks he's flying!"

Posted by: cld on June 30, 2007 at 3:52 AM | PERMALINK

LOL!... I like those slogans.

I am a big animal fan, not esp. one of dogs, but to consider putting a pet on the roof of your car and driving l2 hours... that is insane!

I really think this guy has some very odd beliefs (and I'm not even speaking about his Mormon faith).

And yes, I think how you treat animals is a very valid indication of one's character.

Posted by: Clem on June 30, 2007 at 4:32 AM | PERMALINK

i've seen this story on gossip sites. yeah, it's got legs.

Posted by: linda on June 30, 2007 at 7:55 AM | PERMALINK

How’s this for cat blogging?

Inventor turns dead cats into diesel

Posted by: Joe Bob Briggs on June 30, 2007 at 9:42 AM | PERMALINK

What everyone is missing is basic knowledge of dog behavior. Explosive diarrhea is a clear sign of panic and extreme fear associated with a perception of being trapped; it has nothing to do with simple "discomfort." This is a clear case of animal cruelty, because of the length of the trip and the drenching. There are laws against animal cruelty, yes? Romney should be prosecuted.

Posted by: Claire on June 30, 2007 at 9:46 AM | PERMALINK

that was an awful thing to do to a dog...really awful, some people are so heartless.

Posted by: timl on June 30, 2007 at 10:00 AM | PERMALINK

Hey Egbert/Al,

Do you guys have a dog? If so, can I borrow him? I will drive over and pick him up.

Posted by: Jack on June 30, 2007 at 10:47 AM | PERMALINK

"Local story here, about a farmer who had his dog in the back of his truck, (and I see it all the time around here) - he was driving drunk, went off the road into a ravine. The dog was thrown clear of the wreck, completely uninjured (or, possibly jumped clear before the truck went over the side), went back in through the broken windshield to pull the guy out. Then, after several hours, when he didn't regain consciousness, and no rescuers came, the dog got hungry began munching away at his face."
Posted by: osama_been_forgotten on June 29, 2007 at 6:28 PM

---

Somehow this relates to that WaPo story about cats I read yesterday:
Why Do Cats Hang Around Us? (Hint: They Can't Open Cans)
Genetic Research Suggests Felines 'Domesticated Themselves'
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/28/AR2007062802343.html

I wonder if the farmer had cats with him instead they would start munching his face? I think not-more than likely they would just wander off.... :) Now that cats and cars comes to mind-anybody have a cat named "Toonces"?

Posted by: Doc at the Radar Station on June 30, 2007 at 10:47 AM | PERMALINK

"It seems like a stretch to think that a story like this could hurt Romney's chances in the presidential race..."

No, no, no.

With but a sliver of difference between the ReThuglican candidates, anything negative -- especially anything negative AND showing lack of judgment -- could make quite a BIT of difference.

ESPECIALLY if he ends up the nominee. Then you see ad after ad (I would hope) about his animal cruelty.

No dog person would vote for him after this. He's especially lost ReThuglican moderate women, I would expect.

Posted by: Cal Gal on June 30, 2007 at 4:49 PM | PERMALINK

"I've seen plenty of dogs in the backs of pickups, and this is not much worse than that."

Wrong.

There's a no-wind zone right behind the cab. And if loose, the dog can walk around. Plus the motion would be much more at the extra height of being on the roof.

As for the crap, on that long a trip you have to expect SOME crap. Another stupid aspect of this story is not planning to stop to walk the dog. If Mitt was surprised that the dog crapped, he more stupid than I thought. (And I thought he was hella stupid to begin with.)

What I'm waiting for is the boxer/brief question in one of the debates, but modified for Mitt. "Do you wear boxers, briefs, or funny Mormon underware?"

I BET you it's funny Mormon underware, and you'll never see Mitt in short sleeves.

Posted by: Cal Gal on June 30, 2007 at 5:04 PM | PERMALINK

Maybe Mitt the Twit was "brainwashed".

Posted by: G.Kerby on June 30, 2007 at 5:06 PM | PERMALINK

Hey G. Kerby,

"While I find Romney's actions despicable, driving from Boston to Ontario can easily be done in less than 12 hours, depending on WHERE in Ontario one is headed."

Personally I can do that as well, but with a wife and 3-4 kids plus intermitent stops to soak the dog on top of the roof with water it is going to get to be a lot more like 18-20 hours.

Posted by: Silence Dogood on June 30, 2007 at 6:33 PM | PERMALINK

It's small but significant. As a Texan dog lover, the difference between the back of a pickup truck and being caged on the top of a car is big. The most important criterion for electing a person President is that they have been willing to make unpopular decisions- however that leaves every one of these jackasses out except Ron Paul, Mike Gravel and maybe Kucinich- I'm more than a little skeptical of DK- how did he allow the city of Cleveland to sink into bankruptcy? We need a third party badly and we don't need Wolf Blitzer and his comedy debates. Put him on the roof of the SUV.

Posted by: anciano on June 30, 2007 at 8:43 PM | PERMALINK

"...the difference between the back of a pickup truck and being caged on the top of a car is big."
Posted by: anciano on June 30, 2007 at 8:43 PM

Especially being *free* to move about on the back of a pickup. If you sit behind the cab in the bed of the truck facing backwards the wind will slightly blow *towards* your face with the pickup at highway speed, but not much. If you are bundled up pretty decent you can handle a 20 mile ride in sub-zero temperatures back there if needing to transport more than 4-5 people (who would be crammed in the cab).

Posted by: Doc at the Radar Station on July 1, 2007 at 12:21 AM | PERMALINK

I was a prospective Romney voter until I heard about this.

Posted by: TW Andrews on July 1, 2007 at 1:30 AM | PERMALINK

I'd like people to be a little less tongue-in-cheek about this story. It's abuse to stick a pet on the roof of the car for a long road trip (windshield notwithstanding) and just because somebody is a big ol' blogger or media personality doesn't mean they should be afraid to say so in such direct terms.

Posted by: Xanthippas on July 2, 2007 at 11:30 AM | PERMALINK

Bulldogs have been riding on the hood of Mack Trucks for years, what's the big deal about dogs on cars. So it turns the family car from white to staining brown, that's why they started putting wipers on the back window.

Posted by: Dent on July 2, 2007 at 5:30 PM | PERMALINK

You say, ``Is this story important to the presidential race''?

Answer: JUDGMENT

Posted by: Mark Sims on July 4, 2007 at 9:13 AM | PERMALINK

You say, ``Is this story important to the presidential race''?

Answer: JUDGMENT

Posted by: Mark Sims on July 4, 2007 at 9:13 AM | PERMALINK




 

 

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