Dammit, I hate to see a good man go to prison. Full disclosure: yes, I did serve time in prison for insider trading. No, I was not raped, except by the legal system and even then, I suppose I should have anticipated that I would get caught.

If all of the good public servants end up having to go to prison, then what kind of public servants will we end up with? Hmm?

And, Steve--you must slow down. I'm still trying to catch up from Friday, sir.

norm's a criminal! hence his sympathies.

And rape cannot occur with full consent.

sorry you went to the pokey, norm. you should have been born into a better family.

Normie;
What makes Scooter a "good" man?

The fact that he was proven, in a court of law, to have lied, to obstruct the investigation to determine who violated national security by outing a covert agent and her entire undercover operation, working on nuclear proliferation?

Or because you know what happens to cute guys like that in prison?

No, I was not raped

Then you were the one doing the raping...

While terrorists try to kill us with Mercedes Benz bombs, we quibble on whether to send our esteemed public servants to jail for doing what they are sworn to do: protect us from evil.

What makes Scooter a "good" man?

Scores of people from all walks of life, many of them very prominent, wrote the judge to tell him what a good man Scooter is, not "was." How many former members of the US government are going to write the judge when they arrest your garden variety liberal for stealing from Wal-Mart or using drugs in a day care center?

The fact that he was proven, in a court of law, to have lied, to obstruct the investigation to determine who violated national security by outing a covert agent and her entire undercover operation, working on nuclear proliferation?

Oh, please. She was a bureaucrat who sat on her fanny and collected money from the government. She was no more covert than I am. And the investigation was not "obstructed." The investigation was fishing for whatever it could find, once it was known that Richard Armitage was the Aunt Blabby who told all of the secrets.

Correct me if I am wrong, but Richard Armitage is in what legal jeopardy at this time?

Hence, no crime was committed.

Next case, please!

What makes Scooter a "good" man?

Er war immer partei- und führertreu.

Does gregor have any clue? He thinks public servents "are sworn to do: protect us from evil."
Rather than swearing to uphold the constitution, in which 'evil' is not defined or mentioned.

The Pope can protect us from evil. I want my public servants protecting us from more banal and concrete threats.

bmaz is out and about today. I don't think he will mind if I share his take. His view of the position the Court of Appeals in which the decision has placed Chief Justice Roberts actually adds a lot to this conversation.

Scores of people from all walks of life, many of them very prominent, wrote the judge to tell him what a good man Scooter is, not "was." How many former members of the US government are going to write the judge when they arrest your garden variety liberal for stealing from Wal-Mart or using drugs in a day care center?

Norman Rogers

yeah, liberals are punks, not classy guys who commit credit card fraud at target.

your pal,
blake

If all of the good public servants end up having to go to prison, then what kind of public servants will we end up with? Hmm?

We want public servants that don't break the law.

and his appeal was heard by two more judges appointed by Republican presidents

Including Sentelle, no less. I am shocked.

Norman Rogers: "Oh, please. She was a bureaucrat who sat on her fanny and collected money from the government. She was no more covert than I am."

Better check with Troll Central, because you're working on stale talking points right now.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18924679/

"Correct me if I am wrong, but Richard Armitage is in what legal jeopardy at this time?"

Armitage is in no legal jeopardy at this time. Amazing what telling the truth can do for a person.

Honestly, Norman -- you're mailing it in.

sufficiently annoyed

sufficiently annoyed

No wonder Norman served time. He's dumb as a post.

Try this instead: If all the BAD (e.g lying, perjuring, obstructing justice) public servants end up having to go to prison, then what kind of public servants will we end up with? Hmm?

While terrorists try to kill us with Mercedes Benz bombs, we quibble on whether to send our esteemed public servants to jail for doing what they are sworn to do: protect us from evil.

Yeah Scooter protected us from that evil REPUBLICAN-APPOINTED prosecutor finding out the truth about the outing of an undercover CIA agent tracking the movement of weapons of mass destruction blowing not only her cover but that of the entire "Brewster Jennings" operation she (and no doubt others) was using to keep her identity secret.

As Kevin would say, "better trolls, please."

….I guess the lesson here is….just don't remember anything. Freedom Fighter at 3:55 PM

blowing not only her cover but that of the entire "Brewster Jennings" operation...

Speaking on non-proliferation disasters....

Source: Associated Press

Pakistan Lifts Restrictions on Scientist

By MUNIR AHMAD
Monday, July 2, 2007; 4:38 AM

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan -- Authorities have eased the virtual house arrest imposed on A.Q. Khan, the scientist who sold Pakistan's nuclear secrets to Iran, North Korea and Libya, officials said Monday.

Khan can now meet friends and relatives at his home in the Pakistani capital and travel to meet them elsewhere, two senior officials told
The Associated Press. They spoke on condition of anonymity because Khan's case remains sensitive.

Oh, please. She was a bureaucrat who sat on her fanny and collected money from the government. She was no more covert than I am. Posted by: Norman Rogers on July 2, 2007 at 3:01 PM | PERMALINK

Hm. The Judge, and the Grand Jury disagree with you, as well as Fitgerald's brief, as well as the DCIA who ordered the Grand Jury in the first place.

And the investigation was not "obstructed." The investigation was fishing for whatever it could find, once it was known that Richard Armitage was the Aunt Blabby who told all of the secrets.

Armitage did not blab her covert status, and he was not the source of the original leak - (otherwise he would have been the subject of the original investigation as soon as that came to light).

Correct me if I am wrong, but Richard Armitage is in what legal jeopardy at this time?

None, because he did not leak her covert status, only her association with the CIA, her covert status was leaked BEFORE Armitage did his non-denial. (which, IMO - was a violation of his SF-312, so, if not criminal, at the very least he should have his clearance revoked - and so should anyone who confirmed to the Press, including Libby and Rove, and Cheney, as well.)

Speaking on non-proliferation disasters.... Source: Associated Press Pakistan Lifts Restrictions on Scientist Posted by: Conrad "Con" Sordino on July 2, 2007 at 4:13 PM | PERMALINK

Bushco WANTS nuclear proliferation.

If Iran and Pakistan don't have nuclear weapons, how else can he sell us a "Missile Defense System"?

Remeber: The Taliban was a creation of the Pakistani ISI, an organization stacked with fundamentalist radicals who hate the west. 9/11 was the opening shot in their proxy war against us. And Bush not only gives them a free pass, but he helps them.
And now they have nukes.

And Bush will make sure that Khan continues to help others get them.

Schadenfreude, oh Schadenfreude,
How lovely are thy branches.

I am convinced the "What, me worry?" president will pardon Scooter. What does he have to lose?

What does he have to lose?

His poll numbers could go below 20%. Oh, I forgot, he doesn't pay attention to polls.

The jury charge was so biased against the defense, essentially denying them the ability to mount a defense, that the judge should be the one going to jail.

"The jury charge was so biased against the defense, essentially denying them the ability to mount a defense, that the judge should be the one going to jail."

ROFL... Man, these 26-percenters are desperate for a talking point, any talking point, aren't they? I wonder if they realize just how silly they sound?

"The jury charge was so biased against the defense, essentially denying them the ability to mount a defense, that the judge should be the one going to jail."

Clearly, The Man is keeping him down.

I find it interesting that dear little "Freedom Fighter" is back again. He/she/it laid low for a while after the initial round of deleted posts. I wonder how long he/she/it will last in this current incarnation?

AP is reporting that bush has commuted scooter's sentence

It's fucking Iran Contra and Watergate all over again.

So much for the rule of law.

So much for the rule of law.

Yeah, Republicans have made it pretty clear that for all their hysterical screaming to the contrary they believe they're allowed to break the law with impunity as long as they feel it's "OK."

You know, the good 'ol boy system. "A nation of fat, cigar-smoking men and shiftless fratboys not laws".

Just like the Founders intended.

Commuted while everyone on vacation this week.

My level of disgust just hit an all time high.

Obviously Normie will celebrate, no doubt with a cake made from acorn file, in his dojo while telling us that all along he had the mojo to predict this.

CAN WE GET A CATBLOG TODAY, WE NEED IT.

Obviously Normie will celebrate, no doubt with a cake made from acorn file, in his dojo while telling us that all along he had the mojo to predict this.
Posted by: optical weenie on July 2, 2007 at 6:09 PM | PERMALINK

No one could have predicted this. . .

It was about payback for all the prosecutions in the Clinton administration. Libby was convicted by liberal outrage

Libby was convicted by a Republican prosecuter, you mouth-breathing asswipe, for breaking the law. The case was prosecuted during a Republican administration with a Republican Congress -- so if it were it were, in fact, driven by outrage then that outrage must have have been shared by a plurality of citizens in this country.

Did I mention that you're a mouth-breathing asswipe?

What trex said.

I just don't know what's up with Californa Congressman Waxman's nose?? I want to take him seriously, but he's so..ugly. Up here in the Northwest we are used to our folks being a handsome lot. Strong men and beautiful women and children. But I look at Waxman and I can't get past that nose! Get some plastic surgery, dude!! Bart Triesch

orwell: I wonder if Armitage will be prosecuted now?

armitage didn't lie and he didn't obstruct justice..

So much for the courts.