Great. That's all we need, another one of Nixon's henchmen (like Rove, Rumsfeld, etc.) - They talk about poor Scooter Libby's reputation, when Bush has convicted Iran-Contra felons working in his Administration.

My prediction: Scooter Libby will be Secty. of State for the next Republican administration; and his selection as such, will be a move based purely on politics, as a way to kick liberals in the teeth.

It all sounds quite impressive — just so long as you overlook the fact that Thompson was actually relentlessly partisan and anxious to protect Nixon during the Watergate investigation.

Ha. So this is his little red truck- that’s going to become a new euphemism for skeleton in the closet.

Just think-- this guy is a Nixon stooge! Great!

He’s the “Sammy the Bull� Gravano to Nixon’s John Gotti- a soldier for a guy who defrauded the American people. Explain it to the American people that way. They'll know what kind of guy he really is.

Explain it to the American people that way. They'll know what kind of guy he really is.
Posted by: Swan on July 5, 2007 at 2:11 PM | PERMALINK

Yeah, well the Bush 26%-ers regard Nixon as a hero.

osama_been_forgotten: Scooter Libby will be Secty. of State for the next Republican administration...

Nah, he'll be much too old by that time.

Explain it to the American people that way.

Sounds great to me!

He was acting as an attorney for the minority. Disbar him for divulging client secrets or for acting contrary to his client's interests.

Shut your pie-holes. He's the no-nonsense district attorney on Law & Order.

Liars.

Thompson is another Republican who puts party over country. It must be part of the loyalty oath they take to be eligible for the graft.

All it takes is the Democrats winning in November, 2008, to end this nonsense. Here's hoping we don't snatch defeat from the jaws of victory as we so typically do.

You liberals are up to your usual tricks. Going back 35 years to dig up dirt on a man who has served his country well. Fortunately the "smoking gun" is a youthful indescretion at worst. Despite your efforts, Republicans will be able to choose from several candidates with unblemished reputations.

Good one Al.

I like Republicans will be able to choose from several candidates with unblemished reputations.

Ha!

Fred Thompson's political resume is a little on the thin side."

So's his hair, and is being a stoolie a youthful trait one outgrows?

I know, I know: Don't feed the trolls. Still, this is simply irresistible: Fred Thompson was 31 years old in 1973, so this was hardly a "youthful indiscretion" - ha! Good one! If you are a snake at 31, you're a snake for life.

OK, one more: Clinton and the draft! How old was he? Early 20s? Why was that not a "youthful indiscretion" when unearthed by the Repugs in '92? He was so much younger than Thompson. Zoweeee!

How typical. Another day, another lying, cheating republican weasel.

osama_been_forgotten: "Yeah, well the Bush 26%-ers regard Nixon as a hero."

And this current mess in the White House is the logical historical extension of that needy, hero-worshiping crowd of right-wing extremists -- whose underlying motivating factor all along has been political payback to their "enemies" for the GOZP's 35-year-old self-inflicted wound that was the Nixon administration.

Everything that has traditionally accompanied these people upon their periodic assumptions of power -- the resultant chaos overseas from repeated foreign policy debacles that would seem almost comical if they weren't so often tragic, and the growing domestic legal inequity and economic dislocation -- doesn't matter to them, because in their minds it's not their fault. They've long since deluded themselves into believing that anyone, domestic or foreign, who disagrees with them is "the enemy", and therefore is working to sabotage their patriotic agenda.

All it takes is the Democrats winning in November, 2008, to end this nonsense. Here's hoping we don't snatch defeat from the jaws of victory as we so typically do.
Posted by: MaxGowan on July 5, 2007 at 2:33 PM | PERMALINK

color me cynical; but I think that the best we can hope for is:

Hillary in '08, followed by a continued selling out of our rights and national interests to her Big Money donors, a National Healthcare Plan where we're all REQUIRED to buy private insurance (followed by the gutting of Medicare and Social Security: part of the deal she'll make to buy Republicans' cooperation) - followed quickly by some kind of Impeachment based on dredged-up Whitewater nonsense, followed in '12 by a Romney or Brownback, or Santorum presidency, probably with the help of Diebold.

You liberals are up to your usual tricks. Going back 35 years to dig up dirt on a man who has served his country well. Fortunately the "smoking gun" is a youthful indescretion at worst. Despite your efforts, Republicans will be able to choose from several candidates with unblemished reputations.

Al, you fukcing asshole, here we have a guy who was a traitor to his employer (the Senate), and then bragged about in a book he himself wrote.

Why are all Repukeliscum today traitors?

Osama!

Sanitorium presidency?
Makes me just wanna shudder.

Sorry; I'm just not feeling that positive about the situation our country is in.

However, I look back on history (Hitler's rise to power), and I thank God that the Bush cult-of-personality didn't lead to a much worse disaster.

OBF,
Read Gore's new book (Assault on Reason), so you can feel even worse than you do now.

Ah, Kevin.

Are you arguing that it should not have been made known to Nixon that the Senate knew that he had a taping system? Doesn't government work best, as you always argue, when there is transpaerncy and full communication.

Really, I don't understand why your trying to color this action with such a mendacious brush. All he did was communicate information to the White House. This is so laughable that your trying to make political hey out of this. But don't worry, it will fall just as flat with the rest of America as did your commutation hysteria..

Re Al: "a youthful indescretion"

Your a hoot Al. Brings back memories of Henry Hyde describing cheating on his wife at the age of 41.

Quick, somebody save a screenshot of Fred's claims before he call's for a script rewrite. Because we know there will be a new version up soon.

That is how reality is created, isn't it?

MaxGowan: "OK, one more: Clinton and the draft! How old was he? Early 20s? Why was that not a 'youthful indiscretion' when unearthed by the Repugs in '92? He was so much younger than Thompson. Zoweeee!"

There was no "youthful indiscretion" concerning Bill Clinton and the draft, because there was nothing indiscreet about his actions. He was never drafted due to a high lottery number, which he had received on December 1, 1969.

Earlier, the future 42nd president had initially received a 1-D student deferment classification after he signed a letter of intent to enter the ROTC program at the university of Arkansas.

Like so many young men his age back in the 1960s and 1970s, the 23-year-old Bill Clinton had made several inquiries about how to avoid the draft altogether, as evidenced by his December 3, 1969 letter to Col. Eugene Holmes, then-head of the ROTC program at University of Arkansas, which was written several weeks after he had voluntarily given up that aforementioned student deferment and made himself eligible for the draft:

"When the draft came, despite political convictions, I was having a hard time facing the prospect of fighting a war I had been fighting against, and that is why I contacted you. ROTC was the one way left in which I could possibly, but not positively, avoid both Vietnam and resistance. Going on with my education, even coming back to England, played no part in my decision to join ROTC. I am back here, and would have been at Arkansas Law School, because there is nothing else I can do. In fact, I would like to have been able to take a year out perhaps to teach in a small college or work on some community action project and in the process to decide whether to attend law school or graduate school and how to be putting what I have learned to use. But the particulars of my personal life are not nearly as important to me as the principles involved.

"After I signed the ROTC letter of intent I began to wonder whether the compromise I had made with myself was not more objectionable than the draft would have been, because I had no interest in the ROTC program in itself and all I seemed to have done was to protect myself from physical harm. Also, I began to think I had deceived you, not by lies - there were none - but by failing to tell you all the things I'm writing now. I doubt that I had the mental coherence to articulate them then. At that time, after we had made our agreement and you had sent my 1 - D deferment to my draft board, the anguish and loss of self-regard and self-confidence really set in. I hardly slept for weeks and kept going by eating compulsively and reading until exhaustion brought sleep. Finally on September 12th, I stayed up all night writing a letter to the chairman of my draft board, saying basically what is in the preceding paragraph, thanking him for trying to help me in a case where he really couldn't, and stating that I couldn't do the ROTC after all and would he please draft me as soon as possible.

"I never mailed the letter, but I did carry it on me every day until I got on the plane to return to England. I didn't mail the letter because I didn't see, in the end, how my going in the Army and maybe going to Vietnam would achieve anything except a feeling that I had punished myself and gotten what I deserved. So I came back to England to try to make something of this second year of my Rhodes scholarship.

"And that is where I am now, writing to you because you have been good to me and have a right to know what I think and feel. I am writing too in the hope that my telling this one story will help you to understand more clearly how so many fine people have come to find themselves still loving their country but loathing the military, to which you and other good men have devoted years, lifetimes, of the best service you could give. To many of us, it is no longer clear what is service and what is disservice, or if it is clear, the conclusion is likely to be illegal. Forgive the length of this letter. There was much to say. There is still a lot to be said, but it can wait. Please say hello to Colonel Jones for me. Merry Christmas."

The documented facts clearly show that Bill Clinton resigned himself to his eligibility for the military draft, voluntarily gave up his ROTC deferment, and won a reprieve thanks to a literal luck of the draw, a high lottery number.

Like so many stories about the Clintons that have been proferred over the years by their political opponents, the tale of a draft-dodgin' Bill Clinton has no underlying substance to support to spurious allegations, save for one single letter of conscience to Col. Holmes written at the height of an earlier national folly.

color me cynical; but I think that the best we can hope for is:

Hillary in '08, followed by a continued selling out of our rights and national interests to her Big Money donors, a National Healthcare Plan where we're all REQUIRED to buy private insurance...

I know it's very hard OBF, but we must keep the faith. It must be made clear to the Democratic elites and the public in general, from Thanksgiving on, that a sufficient number of Democrats and independents will never vote for HRC, so that her nomination can be prevented. If the Democratic party will not stand up for the economic interests of the common people, then it is useless.

In Rudi Giuliani and Fred Thompson, Republicans are stooping to recruiting dirty old men as presidential candidates.

I just realized that Barack Obama's initials are B.O.

Now I understand why he stinks as a presidential candidate.

Just this: If you favor a Republican landslide in a Democratic year, Obama definitely is your man.

Donald, I was in a way defending Clinton, who did, by the way, game the system until he got his high lottery number. I forshadowed his trying to have things both ways. And I would submit there is a lot of difference between the judgment of a 23 year-old man versus a 31 year-old. And certainly Clinton's "youthful indiscretion" pales in comparison to what Thompson did. If you could get out of the war back then, you did. Thompson's actions were beyond the pale; Clinton's were oily but understandable, IMO.

Cat's out of the bag on Thompson . " Do Nixon Proud. Vote Fred Thompson" is great bumper stuff , but I bet you guys can do better!

Cat's out of the bag on Thompson . " Do Nixon Proud. Vote Fred Thompson" is great bumper stuff , but I bet you guys can do better!

This just out:Fred Feilding did a reading of Cat in a Hat by Dr Suess,Determined that in fact the cat is not in the hat,but on the cat, so therefore cannot princably be called Cat in a hat But Hat on a Cat.Now back to Bush and Libby.

Despite your efforts, Republicans will be able to choose from several candidates with unblemished reputations.
Posted by: Al on July 5, 2007 at 2:46 PM |

Name one. Take your time...I'll wait.

The Al-bot: ,i>"Despite your efforts, Republicans will be able to choose from several candidates with unblemished reputations."

Mary Bono's running for president?

That recent Rasmussen poll has liberals sweating blood now, doesn't it?

The dirty secret is that almost ANYBODY could beat Hillary in 2008.

No wonder he's the boy for the right-wing folk's. He's been a reliable stooge all along. Unfortunately, we don't need another stooge as the next President.
Been there, done that...
Our echoing cry should be, "No more Stooge's!"

The dirty secret is that almost ANYBODY could beat Hillary in 2008 rnc at 12:18 AM

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Fred Thompson not the next Reagan, says conservative journalist
Chad Groening
OneNewsNow.com
July 10, 2007

An author and investigative journalist believes conservatives are in for a big disappointment if they believe former Tennessee Senator Fred Thompson is the next Ronald Reagan.

Dr. Jerome Corsi has not joined the chorus of conservative pundits who are excited about the possibility of the former Tennessee senator becoming president. He says while people are yearning for another Ronald Reagan, Fred Thompson is not the answer.

“I don’t think some of the positions he’s taken are going to be truly satisfying to real conservatives unless they want to go again experience more ‘battered-voter syndrome’ like they’ve done under Bush,” he comments. “They can make Thompson into what voters want him to be, but unfortunately he just isn’t what they’re projecting into him.”

Corsi, who has been active with the Minutemen, a pro-border security group, predicts that Thompson would be very much like George W. Bush on the border issue. He notes that Thompson’s record in the Senate indicated he supported the expansion of migrant worker programs. Corsi also wonders when people will realize that Thompson, who he says is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, is a globalist who would push for open borders.

For those reasons, Thompson will not emerge as the GOP presidential candidate, opines Corsi. “I think [he is] kind of a red herring,” he says. “He’s being thrown to conservatives as a bone, so they have some horse in the race. But the truth is, Fred Thompson is not a conservative.”

http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/07/fred_thompson_not_the_next_rea.php

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