July 6, 2007
MEAN OL' DEMOCRATS....Boo hoo. The poor White House was able to go six years without any administration oversight or accountability at all, voters got tired of it, elected a Democratic Congress, and all of a sudden, some checks and balances have returned to Washington.
The Bush gang has decided to whine about it.
Bush spokesman Scott Stanzel told reporters during the daily briefing that the White House has been subject to an average of about six oversight hearings a day since Democrats took control of Congress. In that time, he added, the administration has turned over 200,000 pages of documents.
Said Stanzel: "I would raise those issues because it raises the question, what does Congress want to do? Do they want to pass legislation for the American people or would they rather investigate and have politics be the course of the day?"
Fascinating, isn't it? The White House engages in legally dubious conduct, Congress decides to fulfill its oversight responsibilities by asking a few questions, and the next thing you know, Team Bush wants those mean ol' Dems to stop being such brutes.
That said, let's unpack this a little. First, there's reason for some skepticism about Stanzel's assertion about 600 hearings in 100 days. Harry Reid's office said Stanzel's numbers "are as faulty as the intelligence they used to make their case for war."
Second, this might surprise a White House that never quite got the hang of governing, but Congress is capable of conducting oversight and passing legislation. I realize it's been a while since political observers have seen a functioning legislative branch, but if the Senate GOP would stop blocking every thing that moved, we'd see a Congress that can pass bills and offer accountability at the same time.
And third, I don't know what's Texan for "chutzpah," but Republicans have a lot of nerve complaining about Dems holding a few oversight hearings.
Over the last six years of Bill Clinton's presidency, the House Government Reform Committee, led by Dan Burton (R-Ind.) unilaterally issued 1,089 subpoenas to investigate allegations of misconduct involving the Clinton Administration and the Democratic Party. Or, put another way, House Republicans issued a politically-inspired subpoena every other day for six consecutive years, including weekends, holidays, and congressional recesses.
And now the Bush White House is crying like a child about congressional Dems being big meanies. Why? Because they've held some oversight hearings for the first time in Bush's presidency.
It'd be amusing if it weren't so pathetic.
—Steve Benen 11:57 AM
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Hey Blue Girl, every time I post at your site, Safari on my mac crashes. It did it 4 times in a row. You'd probably get more comments if that were fixed.
Keep up the good work!
Posted by: slanted tom on July 6, 2007 at 12:00 PM | PERMALINK
"Being a lame duck sure sucks.' - George Bush
Posted by: slanted tom on July 6, 2007 at 12:03 PM | PERMALINK
The Democrats should now put out a general note to all Washington buerocrats: In 2009, the Democrats will take over in Washington. At that time, we will begin a firestorm of retribution and revenge against the Repukeliscum. If you help us now, we will remember. If you impede our current investigations, we will remember this, and life will be very hard indeed for you from 2009-2012. You choose: help us now, or pay in 2009.
Posted by: POed Lib on July 6, 2007 at 12:06 PM | PERMALINK
Scott Stanzel is an emerging White House talent. He did it all yesterday. His rendition of the comedy whine was worthy of his mentor Tony Snow. I can't wait to hear the whoppers he delivers today.
Fun Fact: Did you know that he is said to be one of the highest ranking members of the Bush administration from Iowa?
Posted by: corpus juris on July 6, 2007 at 12:08 PM | PERMALINK
Then the reporters at the daily briefing should bring this shit up to SHUT THEM UP
Posted by: iggy on July 6, 2007 at 12:21 PM | PERMALINK
Tom, which site, WTWC, or BG,RS? If it is BG, RS it is probably the google ads, and I have complained about it loudly to them for a while. IF it is WTWC, I have a problem...
Posted by: Blue Girl, Red State (aka G.C.) on July 6, 2007 at 12:21 PM | PERMALINK
"The Democrats should now put out a general note to all Washington buerocrats: In 2009, the Democrats will take over in Washington. At that time, we will begin a firestorm of retribution and revenge against the Repukeliscum. If you help us now, we will remember. If you impede our current investigations, we will remember this, and life will be very hard indeed for you from 2009-2012. You choose: help us now, or pay in 2009."
Yeesh. You sound like a mob boss. We've had enough thuggery - tempting as it might be. Democrats should stand for the rule of law - even and especially when it applies to Democrats. From the 2000 election to the California energy crisis to the war to Plamegate, Abramoff and Scooter, it's plain that these douchebags are not only changing the rules of the game; they've stopped playing altogether.
This wholesale trashing of our values and our faith in the rule of law is the biggest thing weakening us both at home and abroad.
Short version = no mercy, throw them all in jail, no matter how long it takes. We stand for justice.
Posted by: cazart on July 6, 2007 at 12:25 PM | PERMALINK
slanted tom: if your browser crashes when visiting any site whatsoever, the bug is in your browser, not in the site that you visit. You should complain to Apple.
The most the site can do is try to figure out what is triggering the bug, and avoid that usage.
Posted by: Joe Buck on July 6, 2007 at 12:29 PM | PERMALINK
From Buzzflash (October 29, 2002):
"You don't get everything you want. A dictatorship would be a lot easier." Describing what it's like to be governor of Texas. (Governing Magazine 7/98)
— From Paul Begala's "Is Our Children Learning?"
"I told all four that there are going to be some times where we don't agree with each other, but that's OK. If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator." Bush joked.
— CNN.com, December 18, 2000
"A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, there's no question about it." [Bush] said.
— Business Week, July 30, 2001
Need we say more, Steve?
Posted by: daveb99 on July 6, 2007 at 12:31 PM | PERMALINK
This has been the Rove strategy all along:
Pick the most inflammatory lightning rods from the Nixon, Reagan, and Bush41 administrations, commit the worst atrocities possible, then sit back and wait for the Liberals to complain.
The rednecks LOVE to see liberals get ticked off. They love it even more when liberals try to put a stop to it, and lose.
And they love it most of all when the rightwing media shills call Democrats "shrill" or "triangulating to their extremist base" (etc).
This is how they build their base.
And it's not any kind of special genius or talent. Anyone could do this with a compliant corporate-dominated rightwing bootlicking media.
Posted by: osama_been_forgotten on July 6, 2007 at 12:35 PM | PERMALINK
This is a great bit of role reversal -- Republicans whine, & Democrats say "tough sh*t."
More please.
Posted by: junebug on July 6, 2007 at 12:41 PM | PERMALINK
No, Steve, even if it weren't so pathetic it still wouldn't be amusing. The Rethugs have played extraordinarily vicious hardball for more than a decade and now that they get a taste of honest government (not even close to a taste of their own medicine) they whine like frightened schoolgirls. What they need is for a couple of the worst of their inner circle - Rove and his ilk - to be subject to due process and, if they turn out to deserve it, to rot in jail for a few years.
Posted by: dcbob on July 6, 2007 at 12:46 PM | PERMALINK
Speaking of Hon. Rep. Butron, I note that the last time that the GAO used its unique authority under the law to inspect all papers and records of the Office of the Vice President--for the purposes of auditing--was when Burton requested this be done to Mr, Gore.
Posted by: jhm on July 6, 2007 at 12:48 PM | PERMALINK
Two suspects in the failed car bombings in Britain had contacted a clearinghouse for foreign doctors about working in the United States, the FBI said today . . .
But Bush promised that as long as we remain in Iraq the terrorists would not even think of attacking us here at home which is why we must remain there to prevent attacks or planning of attacks on American soil.
Did he lie?
Does a bear sh*t in the woods?
Posted by: anonymous on July 6, 2007 at 1:01 PM | PERMALINK
Don't you guys get it?
Being a Republican is supposed to automatically innocuate you from any kind of legal consequences of your actions. Didn't Scooter Libby just teach you dolts that?!
I mean....seriously, it's not like they're Democrats or something (I mean...they're ALWAYS up to something! They even have 'Rat' in their name!!).
Posted by: Kryptik (playing the part of a Conservatroll) on July 6, 2007 at 1:04 PM | PERMALINK
ah, kevin. (or whoever, i'll just call you kevin))
don't you understand monarchy is what the founders intended?
Posted by: eggfart on July 6, 2007 at 1:10 PM | PERMALINK
Don't worry about any of this. There will be no future Democratic president because if we vote one in, the U.S. Supreme Court will declare the election to be unconstitutional. They've already wiped out several major decisions of the 20th Century, part of the First Amendment, school desegregation, free markets and even capitalism. What's to stop them from wiping out an election?
Yours very crankily,
The Neew York Crank
Posted by: The New York Crank on July 6, 2007 at 1:11 PM | PERMALINK
so the decider is a victim?
hows that working out?
oh right...
Posted by: dr. phil on July 6, 2007 at 1:17 PM | PERMALINK
New York Crank,
They already have. So you can chalk it up.
Posted by: Joe Klein's conscience on July 6, 2007 at 1:18 PM | PERMALINK
When are Dems going to quit being wusses and fight back? The one thing that is obvious about Republican bullies - from Bush to Delay to O'Reilly - is they cannot take a hit. You hit back and they start whining and crying.
The Dems need to hammer them repeatedly. Not just some nasty footnote to some civilized rebuttal, clean their clocks over and over until they eat their own talking points.
Polietly, of course.
Posted by: martin on July 6, 2007 at 1:21 PM | PERMALINK
Gee, I wonder if the energy that Congress is pouring into pointless investigations rather than productive legislation might have something to do with the indisputable fact that Congress's approval ratings are even lower than President' Bush's?
Well, if you think it's working for you, keep it up.
Posted by: DBL on July 6, 2007 at 1:25 PM | PERMALINK
Silly rabbit, subpoenas are for Democrats.
Posted by: tomeck on July 6, 2007 at 1:25 PM | PERMALINK
dbl: Well, if you think it's working for you, keep it up.
535-people make up "congress"
president bush is 1-person..
fringe LOVE apples and oranges...
Posted by: mr. irony on July 6, 2007 at 1:28 PM | PERMALINK
And now the Bush White House is crying like a child about congressional Dems being big meanies. Why? Because they've held some oversight hearings for the first time in Bush's presidency.
In the immortal words of Harry Truman: "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen." (And take "Turd Blossom" and the rest with you.)
Posted by: "Fair and Balanced" Dave on July 6, 2007 at 1:32 PM | PERMALINK
dbl: Congress's approval ratings are even lower than President' Bush's?
wrong again...
and here's proof...
one week ago....
bush approval: 31%
dems in congress: 36%
gop in congress: 30%
- fox news 6/28/07
a majority says it is good (57%) rather than bad (31%) "that the Democratic Party is in control of the Congress."
The "Democratic Party" receives a net positive rating (51% favorable, 38% unfavorable), while the ratings of the "Republican Party" are net negative (36% favorable, 53% unfavorable).
http://www.pollster.com/blogs/poll_cnn_on_congressional_demo.php
- CNN/ORC 6/29/07
Posted by: mr. irony on July 6, 2007 at 1:35 PM | PERMALINK
BG,RS, you have a problem. Both sites let me post, but then immediately crashed Safari when I closed the posting window.
Posted by: slanted tom on July 6, 2007 at 1:40 PM | PERMALINK
Anybody out there know how many total subpoenas the Republicans threw at Clinton?
Inquiring minds would like to know.
Posted by: Mark-NC on July 6, 2007 at 2:13 PM | PERMALINK
Well, if you think it's working for you, keep it up. DBL at 1:25 PM
Poll on Bush / Cheney
ARG is out with a new poll showing that a resounding 11% support a full pardon for Scooter Libby. The poll also shows that 45% of respondents support the House of Representatives starting impeachment proceedings against President Bush, and 54% support the same for Vice President Cheney.
Keep it up? Sounds like da Plan, bushboy.
Posted by: Mike on July 6, 2007 at 2:18 PM | PERMALINK
So now "The other guys did it too!" IS a valid argument? I'll make a note.
Posted by: rnc on July 6, 2007 at 3:09 PM | PERMALINK
Only thing I'm afraid of (and probably congressional Dems are afraid of too) - is that a Bush Impeachment would be framed as "political payback for Clinton Impeachment" by the mainstream media. As stupid as that sounds (no dumber than the "Socialized Medicine causes terrorism" meme) - in a nation where 40% of people believe Saddam Hussein did 9/11, it's a frightening proposition.
Posted by: osama_been_forgotten on July 6, 2007 at 3:12 PM | PERMALINK
...in a nation where 40% of people believe Saddam Hussein did 9/11, it's a frightening proposition.
How come polls showing things like this prove Americans are idiots, while polls that, say, support impeachment, show that American are geniuses?
Posted by: rnc on July 6, 2007 at 3:20 PM | PERMALINK
rnc...one poll has lower results than the other...
see if you can figure out which is going up
and which is going down..
that ought to keep him busy for a while...
Posted by: mr.irony on July 6, 2007 at 3:28 PM | PERMALINK
Ah yes, the arithmetical chinese finger trap. Simple, yet devious.
Capital, mr. irony, capital!
Posted by: kenga on July 6, 2007 at 3:32 PM | PERMALINK
rnc wrote: How come polls showing things like [40% of people believe Saddam Hussein did 9/11] prove Americans are idiots
Because it's demonstrably untrue, jackass.
Are Bush apologists even capable of arguing without false equivalences?
Posted by: Gregory on July 6, 2007 at 3:33 PM | PERMALINK
what does Congress want to do?
I am in favor of the oversight hearings, complete with hundreds of thousands of documents. But I doubt that Congress knows what it wants to do, and I doubt they'll figure it out in time to act effectively.
I hope I am not cynical. the Democrats just seem very disorganized, and have blown the good will that they got along with winning the 2006 election. Maybe things will improve when they pass their energy legislation, which ought to be soon.
Posted by: MatthewRmarler on July 6, 2007 at 3:37 PM | PERMALINK
Are Bush apologists even capable of arguing without false equivalences/
No.
Posted by: rea on July 6, 2007 at 3:40 PM | PERMALINK
Good work Benen:
And third, I don't know what's Texan for "chutzpah," but Republicans have a lot of nerve complaining about Dems holding a few oversight hearings.
Someone fax that to Rahm - pronto.
NOW if only our Dem congress were sharp enough to attack the Bushies with exactly the same words the Bushies used to attack Dems with, than the publican would understand better - if only Dems were better at slam the ball right back in Repug court.
I like that the Dems are call Repugs - obstructionist.
Posted by: Me_ again on July 6, 2007 at 8:22 PM | PERMALINK
Shame on you, mr. irony, coming up with facts rather than uninformed opinions.
Posted by: ironicman on July 6, 2007 at 11:21 PM | PERMALINK
"The Democrats should now put out a general note to all Washington buerocrats: In 2009, the Democrats will take over in Washington. At that time, we will begin a firestorm of retribution and revenge against the Repukeliscum."
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It appears to be war to the knife between Democrats and Republicans. With more and more influence being given to rabid partisans on both sides, what else can we expect? When the real agenda is "revenge" against the "scum," the scum are not likely to do anything reasonable.
An "eye for any eye and tooth for a tooth" philosophy results in everyone being blind and toothless.
Posted by: trashhauler on July 8, 2007 at 2:25 AM | PERMALINK
trash: When the real agenda is "revenge" against the "scum,"
gop: can dish it out..but cant take it...
most of us already knew that...
Posted by: mr. irony on July 8, 2007 at 12:01 PM | PERMALINK