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July 26, 2007
By: Kevin Drum

QUOTE OF THE DAY....Ana Marie Cox on how to get the Bush administration to cooperate with Senate questioning:

You know if the Senate would just call it "legislative waterboarding" and not "oversight," I bet they could get Cheney to support it.

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Good old Wonkette. Always there to reduce important national issues to snarky pseudo-hip prattle.

Posted by: Pat on July 26, 2007 at 1:15 PM | PERMALINK

The way to get the White House to pat attention to Congress is to open impeachment proceedings against Gonzalez at the very least, and possibly against Cheney. Even if the Democrats do not follow through and hold a trial in the Senate, and least it will give them some negotiating leverage, something which Congress has little of right now.

Posted by: mfw13 on July 26, 2007 at 1:15 PM | PERMALINK

What a quaint idea!

Posted by: Kenji on July 26, 2007 at 1:16 PM | PERMALINK

Fine, let's impeach his ass in Norway.

Posted by: BombIranForChrist on July 26, 2007 at 1:29 PM | PERMALINK

mfw13;
Be real. Impeachment would just create a profitable controversy for FoxNews and CNN. The Republicans will obstruct in the House - they won't get enough votes in the Senate, and if any technicalities go to the courts, Bush has them stacked with cronies who will cover him.

That's not to say I'm not for impeachment, or I'm not for pursuing it. I just think we need to be realistic about what we can expect to achieve.

Democrats need to pursue (at the same time) a Constitutional Amendment that puts limits on the Executive powers of Executive Privilege, Orders, and Signing Statements. So we will never again, have another national tragedy like the 43rd presidency.

The Amendment won't succeed (not with this congress anyway) - but it will be political suicide for anyone who opposes it.

Posted by: osama_been_forgotten on July 26, 2007 at 2:07 PM | PERMALINK
Democrats need to pursue (at the same time) a Constitutional Amendment that puts limits on the Executive powers of Executive Privilege, Orders, and Signing Statements.

Because if you can't get 2/3 in one house of Congress to deal with a specific wrongdoer with no changes to the law, its easy to get 2/3 in both Houses and support of 3/4 of the state legislatures for a change to the fundamental law to address the same problem.

So we will never again, have another national tragedy like the 43rd presidency.

Right, because the difficulty of amending the Constitution aside, when the Congress shows it isn't willing to deal with abuses under the existing Constitutional order, every future President will be sure to obey any new limits that are put on paper.

Posted by: cmdicely on July 26, 2007 at 2:15 PM | PERMALINK

That's thinking outside of the hot-box!

Posted by: Grumpy on July 26, 2007 at 2:27 PM | PERMALINK

I recently saw some new reality show where they electrically shocked the voluntary participants when they remembered incorrectly.

"I don't recall", which is repeatedly spewed by our supposedly [two fingers up on each hand] "best and brightest" legal and political minds would soon become an extinct rational...

Posted by: lib-o-con on July 26, 2007 at 3:06 PM | PERMALINK

Ah, Kevin.

Not funny.

Posted by: egbert on July 26, 2007 at 3:18 PM | PERMALINK

As The Simpsons movie opens this weekend, President Bush is under a withering assault from all sides. Which is altogether fitting. Because with each passing day, the scandal-plagued Bush White House more and more resembles a 2000 episode of The Simpsons. During a check up, the nuclear power tycoon Mr. Burns is informed by his doctor that "you are the sickest man in the United States. You have everything." (See a video clip here.) But the doctor reassures Burns that the news isn't all bad and that he will survive because "all of your diseases are in perfect balance."

In fact, George W. Bush may be hanging on because of, and not despite, the staggering epidemic of scandals enveloping his administration.

For the details, see:
"The Simpsons Explain the Bush Presidency."

Posted by: Furious on July 26, 2007 at 3:58 PM | PERMALINK

Well, now, either Gonzo's lying, or FBI Director is lying. Or, like Scooter Libby, they're just both a couple of really busy, hard working guys who can't be troubled to remember details, and really, what's the big deal, when there's no underlying crime?

Posted by: osama_been_forgotten on July 26, 2007 at 4:56 PM | PERMALINK

What? No anal sex joke? Ms. Cox really has turned more serious, hasn't she?

Posted by: Quaker in a Basement on July 26, 2007 at 5:40 PM | PERMALINK

Given our demonstrable propensity to overdose on our own self-righteousness, levity will often serve as a useful antidote.

Further, political humor and satire can starkly clarify for the general public the true magnitude and seriousness of a given situation or circumstance, and will thus convey a public sense of urgency far more effectively than repeated emotional appeals to either reason or rage.

Posted by: Donald from Hawaii on July 26, 2007 at 6:11 PM | PERMALINK

political humor and satire

It's a long and honorable tradition that only the jokers can speak truth, but this doesn't say anything good about the nature of power.

Posted by: thersites on July 26, 2007 at 6:44 PM | PERMALINK

Does even Pat know what he is trying to say?

Posted by: Avenger on July 26, 2007 at 7:48 PM | PERMALINK

The sad fact is Gonzalez appears to be a compulsive liar. He lies when he doesn’t really need to – evidently he thinks whatever alternate reality he describes is just as legitimate as the real one. It was widely reported the first set of hearings were postponed when his White House handlers found he couldn’t even keep his story straight in the rehearsals, not that the postponement did a lot of good. How did a clown like this get to be AG? Oh yah, I remember, his boss appointed him.

Posted by: fafner1 on July 26, 2007 at 7:56 PM | PERMALINK

It's a mistake to blame only Bush or Cheney.

Blame the Republicans.

It's their mess and it will take an experienced and savvy Democrat to clean it up.

Posted by: credit on July 26, 2007 at 10:40 PM | PERMALINK

I really don't expect Gonzalez to stay around much longer.

While it may be true that the Bush White House just doesn't care anymore and that staff is just going through the motions, a lot of damage is being done out in the boondocks, so to speak. I expect our AG will be returning to his family fairly soon, pressures of the job, you know, etc., etc., etc.

Posted by: lettinggo on July 26, 2007 at 10:50 PM | PERMALINK




 

 

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