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August 2, 2007
By: CIA FOLLIES....This is surely not the most important part of Tim Weiner's Legacy of Ashes, a history of the CIA, but it's unquestionably the funniest part of Chalmers Johnson's review:
Via Max, of course. —Kevin Drum 2:00 PM Permalink | Trackbacks | Comments (115)Comments
So the President appoints an ambassador, and the CIA doesn't like what she does, bugs her bedroom, and then spreads rumors about her? Words fail me. Colin Posted by: Colin on August 2, 2007 at 2:03 PM | PERMALINKThat sure puts the evidence in the Padilla trial in perspective, doesn't it? What you hear may not be what was said. Posted by: biggerbox on August 2, 2007 at 2:07 PM | PERMALINKHmm, "petting the dog" indeed! ;-) Incidentally, note the year - the CIA does buffoonish things under both Republican and Democratic administrations. Posted by: Shelby on August 2, 2007 at 2:09 PM | PERMALINKThis is a small but illustrative example of why we should shut the CIA down. It is the most undemocratic, thuggish agency in our government. They were the ones who got in bed with the mujaheddin in Afghanistan and helped give Usama bin Laden his basic training. The CIA is part of the problem, NOT part of the solution. Posted by: The Conservative Deflator on August 2, 2007 at 2:11 PM | PERMALINKInstead of lesbianism, the CIA should have accused her of bestiality... Barney wept. Posted by: PETA on August 2, 2007 at 2:11 PM | PERMALINKWhat immediately comes to mind is "Let Me Play With Your Poodle", an old blues song recorded by Tampa Red, Lightnin' Hopkins, and others: Looka here baby, listen to my song don't get mad because it ain't no harm, I want to play with your poodle, can I play with your poodle, Let me play with your poodle, I mean your little poodle dog.Posted by: Mithras on August 2, 2007 at 2:27 PM | PERMALINK Ah, but only a lesbian would name her poodle after her secretary! Posted by: Grumpy on August 2, 2007 at 2:28 PM | PERMALINKthis reminds me of a joke an old friend of mine in Army Intelligence [an oxymoron, I know] once told me... Lesbian Poodles in Guatemala? How come we never read about these things in the Mainstream Media? Huh? Posted by: CT on August 2, 2007 at 2:36 PM | PERMALINKSo I guess we can ignore those rumors about her secretary piddling on the carpet too? Posted by: Quaker in a Basement on August 2, 2007 at 2:44 PM | PERMALINKBefore declaring the CIA as the most thuggish government agency, don't overlook the FBI's decades long track record of framing innocent citizens, while aiding and abetting murder, to say nothing of the run-of-the-mill abuses of citizens' rights. Posted by: Will Allen on August 2, 2007 at 2:46 PM | PERMALINKMaybe the CIA was just mad at her for trying to help out minorities and didn't even have a good security-related rationale for spreading rumors I bet a lot of people think the CIA can't do something like this, because they're infallible. I wonder if they even felt bad about what they did when they discovered it, or though it was just funny. Incidentally, note the year - the CIA does buffoonish things under both Republican and Democratic administrations. I bet the CIA does a great job of covering up its real intention from the people who it is supposed to be beholden to under the law, and conning them into thinking there are different reasons for what it is doing. Or maybe it doesn't even tell them a lot of what it does. Posted by: Swan on August 2, 2007 at 2:55 PM | PERMALINKIs this the real Will Allen or another spoof? I can't tell anymore. BUTTHEAD: "Hey Beavis, check it out." BEAVIS: "Heh-heh. Yeah! Heh-heh...." BUTTHEAD: "She's like, petting her poodle." BEAVIS: "Cool. Washin' the dog, washin' the dog..." BUTTHEAD: "Huh-huh. We're gonna score. Oh, hey, Mr. President." CLINTON: "Huh-huh. We're gonna score." BEAVIS: "Cool." Posted by: Cazart on August 2, 2007 at 3:04 PM | PERMALINKIt shows how politically unsophisticated the CIA are in that their worldview would automatically see an ambassador as beign politically suspect because she was concerned with human rights in Guatemala. Will, has the FBI overthrown any governments? No? Then shut the fuck up and try to limit your contributions to your areas of expertise - like the climate in your bowels. Posted by: noel on August 2, 2007 at 3:18 PM | PERMALINKOh God, the comments here are hilarious. Posted by: Xanthippas on August 2, 2007 at 3:32 PM | PERMALINKOh God, the comments here are hilarious. Yes, they certainly are. I think it's Quaker in a Basement by a nose! Posted by: shortstop on August 2, 2007 at 3:46 PM | PERMALINKThat is just ridiculous and clearly untrue. Saddam had three Shih Tzus named Yellowcake, Osama and WMD and the CIA was able to distinguish ... wait a minute. Posted by: Steve on August 2, 2007 at 3:49 PM | PERMALINKIs this the real Will Allen or another spoof? Isn't that like: "Is this six or is it half a dozen?" Just relax and enjoy the madness. Posted by: shortstop on August 2, 2007 at 3:51 PM | PERMALINKLiberal claptrap. Saddam had three miniature Schnauzers named Osama, WMD and Yellowcake and the CIA had no trouble distinguishing ... wait a minute. Posted by: Steve on August 2, 2007 at 3:51 PM | PERMALINKThat is just ridiculous and clearly untrue. Saddam had three Shih Tzus named Yellowcake, Osama and WMD and the CIA was able to distinguish ... wait a minute. Bwa! Steve gives Quaker a run for his/her money! Posted by: shortstop on August 2, 2007 at 3:52 PM | PERMALINKAnd what exactly did the CIA think was going on when the dog barked? We need an investigation. Posted by: tomeck on August 2, 2007 at 4:02 PM | PERMALINKYes, noel, the FBI is not to be mentioned. Ask Whitey Bulger, if you can find him, or the relatives of the people murdered by Whitey Bulger with the FBI's knowledge, or the men (or their estates) just awarded 150 million dollars by a Federal judge for being deliberately framed by the FBI, and thus incarcerated. Nope, you'd just rather indulge in your typical juvenile idiocy. Posted by: Will Allen on August 2, 2007 at 4:04 PM | PERMALINKtomeck: And what exactly did the CIA think was going on when the dog barked? We need an investigation. They probably didn't even notice it, as used as spooks are to their own partners whimpering and howling. Posted by: shortstop on August 2, 2007 at 4:08 PM | PERMALINKDoes it mean that all lesbians are either unmarried or not from a conservative family? Posted by: gregor on August 2, 2007 at 4:14 PM | PERMALINKPresumably, the CIA thought the Ambassador was the top, and the secretary was into the collar-scene. Posted by: osama_been_forgotten on August 2, 2007 at 4:21 PM | PERMALINK"The agency spread the word in Washington that the liberal ambassador was a lesbian without realizing that "Murphy" was also the name of her two-year-old black standard poodle. The bug in her bedroom had recorded her petting her dog. She was actually a married woman from a conservative family. [p. 459]" Maybe that whole down-low business is specific to XY chromosomes, but Mary Cheney pretty much shoots down a suggestion that lesbians & conservative families don't mix. but Mary Cheney pretty much shoots down a suggestion that lesbians & conservative families don't mix. Never mind Ted Haggard, Mark Foley, Jeff Gannon/Guckert. . . Posted by: osama_been_forgotten on August 2, 2007 at 4:44 PM | PERMALINK"Never mind Ted Haggard, Mark Foley, Jeff Gannon/Guckert. . ." My, my... the sisterhood is expanding. Posted by: junebug on August 2, 2007 at 4:48 PM | PERMALINKMaybe I was a little hasty in dismissing the CIA's angle. Posted by: junebug on August 2, 2007 at 5:11 PM | PERMALINKThe Conservative Deflator: They were the ones who got in bed with the mujaheddin in Afghanistan and helped give Usama bin Laden his basic training. I think they used that story on "The Wire" a season or two ago, but it was about dogfighting. Posted by: Steve Paradis on August 2, 2007 at 8:39 PM | PERMALINKChalmers Johnson? You have to be kidding. The fellow is an old Stalinist who thinks North Korea is the greatest country on earth. His reason for liking a book that critizes the CIA is that it was the main enemy of his beloved KGB. Posted by: Fred Flintstone on August 2, 2007 at 10:31 PM | PERMALINKFred, I don't think you know a damn thing about Chalmers Johnson. He predicted 9-11 two years before it happened in Blowback. I haven't read anything of his that suggests he thinks N.Korea is great. In short, you are full of shit. As a last word, any organization (the CIA) that names it's headquarters after a criminal fascist loser like George H.W. Bush, needs to be put out of business. Posted by: The Conservative Deflator on August 2, 2007 at 11:01 PM | PERMALINKFrank Zappa: "Dirty Love" Frank zappa (guitar, vocals) Give me Give me I dont need your sweet devotion Give me Give me I dont need no consolation Give me Give me Ill ignore your cheap aroma The poodle bites! Al: "*" That's gotta be Al's most succinct and honest post ever. Posted by: Donald from Hawaii on August 3, 2007 at 12:54 AM | PERMALINK"*" is not what I said, Donald. Kevin has merely decided to abandon any pretense of honoring the First Amendment. Posted by: Al on August 3, 2007 at 8:45 AM | PERMALINKOh, good gravy, Al, Kevin isn't the Congress of the United States, and there isn't anything he can do or not do here which has anything to do with honoring the First Amendment. I mostly try to ignore anything you write, but I must say that if it is your goal to prove that Republicans have as many lackwits as Democrats, and possibly more egregious examples of them, you are doing a helluva job. Posted by: Will Allen on August 3, 2007 at 9:57 AM | PERMALINKBut it's still better to vote for Republicans. Because even though they're equally bad, Democrats are worse. Posted by: Wail Allen on August 3, 2007 at 10:55 AM | PERMALINKActually, I only vote for Democrats slightly less frequently than Republicans, and one of the reasons for doing so is the type of Democrats which post here. To be fair, I don't vist Republican forums much, so there isn't as much opportunity to be reminded of how distasteful it is to associate with them, because, after all, to really know committed Republicans and Democrats is to have contempt for both. I've previously apologized for labeling Kevin the Hugh Hewitt of the Democratic Party, but it certainly would apply to most of the participants in this forum, if they were to publish a blog. 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