So the President appoints an ambassador, and the CIA doesn't like what she does, bugs her bedroom, and then spreads rumors about her?

Words fail me.

Colin

That sure puts the evidence in the Padilla trial in perspective, doesn't it?

What you hear may not be what was said.

It was a slam dunk.

Hmm, "petting the dog" indeed! ;-)

Incidentally, note the year - the CIA does buffoonish things under both Republican and Democratic administrations.

This is a small but illustrative example of why we should shut the CIA down. It is the most undemocratic, thuggish agency in our government. They were the ones who got in bed with the mujaheddin in Afghanistan and helped give Usama bin Laden his basic training.

The CIA is part of the problem, NOT part of the solution.

Instead of lesbianism, the CIA should have accused her of bestiality...

Barney wept.

Good troll, The Conservative Deflator.

What immediately comes to mind is "Let Me Play With Your Poodle", an old blues song recorded by Tampa Red, Lightnin' Hopkins, and others:

Looka here baby, listen to my song don't get mad because it ain't no harm, I want to play with your poodle, can I play with your poodle, Let me play with your poodle, I mean your little poodle dog.

He's the best little poodle I ever seen,
And what I like about him you keeps him clean,
Let me play with your poodle, let me play with your poodle,
Let me play with your poodle, I mean your little poodle dog.

Your little poodle got long black shaggy hair,
look like a face like a teddy bear,
But can I play with your poodle, let me play with your poodle,
play with your poodle, I mean your little poodle dog.

I like the way he twists his tail,
I would buy him but he ain't for sale,
But let me play with your poodle, let me play with your poodle,
Let me play with your poodle, I mean your little poodle dog.

I play so oft so gently and sweet,
I would like to play with him each one day a week,
Now can I play with your poodle, let me play with your poodle,
Let me play with your poodle, I mean your little poodle dog.

Ah, but only a lesbian would name her poodle after her secretary!

this reminds me of a joke an old friend of mine in Army Intelligence [an oxymoron, I know] once told me...
Q: How can we prove the CIA wasn't involved in the JFK assassination?
A: He's dead isn't he?

Lesbian Poodles in Guatemala? How come we never read about these things in the Mainstream Media? Huh?

I don't know if I should laugh or cry.

So I guess we can ignore those rumors about her secretary piddling on the carpet too?

Before declaring the CIA as the most thuggish government agency, don't overlook the FBI's decades long track record of framing innocent citizens, while aiding and abetting murder, to say nothing of the run-of-the-mill abuses of citizens' rights.

Did Sen. Santorum know abbout this?

Maybe the CIA was just mad at her for trying to help out minorities and didn't even have a good security-related rationale for spreading rumors
about her.

I bet a lot of people think the CIA can't do something like this, because they're infallible.

I wonder if they even felt bad about what they did when they discovered it, or though it was just funny.

Incidentally, note the year - the CIA does buffoonish things under both Republican and Democratic administrations.

I bet the CIA does a great job of covering up its real intention from the people who it is supposed to be beholden to under the law, and conning them into thinking there are different reasons for what it is doing. Or maybe it doesn't even tell them a lot of what it does.

Is this the real Will Allen or another spoof?

I can't tell anymore.

BUTTHEAD: "Hey Beavis, check it out."

BEAVIS: "Heh-heh. Yeah! Heh-heh...."

BUTTHEAD: "She's like, petting her poodle."

BEAVIS: "Cool. Washin' the dog, washin' the dog..."

BUTTHEAD: "Huh-huh. We're gonna score. Oh, hey, Mr. President."

CLINTON: "Huh-huh. We're gonna score."

BEAVIS: "Cool."

It shows how politically unsophisticated the CIA are in that their worldview would automatically see an ambassador as beign politically suspect because she was concerned with human rights in Guatemala.
Pathetic. More evidence that America is polluted by conservative ideology. Can't see reality for all the BS.

Will, has the FBI overthrown any governments? No? Then shut the fuck up and try to limit your contributions to your areas of expertise - like the climate in your bowels.

Oh God, the comments here are hilarious.

Oh God, the comments here are hilarious.

Yes, they certainly are. I think it's Quaker in a Basement by a nose!

That is just ridiculous and clearly untrue. Saddam had three Shih Tzus named Yellowcake, Osama and WMD and the CIA was able to distinguish ... wait a minute.

Is this the real Will Allen or another spoof?

Isn't that like: "Is this six or is it half a dozen?"

Just relax and enjoy the madness.

Liberal claptrap. Saddam had three miniature Schnauzers named Osama, WMD and Yellowcake and the CIA had no trouble distinguishing ... wait a minute.

That is just ridiculous and clearly untrue. Saddam had three Shih Tzus named Yellowcake, Osama and WMD and the CIA was able to distinguish ... wait a minute.

Bwa! Steve gives Quaker a run for his/her money!

And what exactly did the CIA think was going on when the dog barked? We need an investigation.

Yes, noel, the FBI is not to be mentioned. Ask Whitey Bulger, if you can find him, or the relatives of the people murdered by Whitey Bulger with the FBI's knowledge, or the men (or their estates) just awarded 150 million dollars by a Federal judge for being deliberately framed by the FBI, and thus incarcerated. Nope, you'd just rather indulge in your typical juvenile idiocy.

tomeck: And what exactly did the CIA think was going on when the dog barked? We need an investigation.

They probably didn't even notice it, as used as spooks are to their own partners whimpering and howling.

Does it mean that all lesbians are either unmarried or not from a conservative family?

Presumably, the CIA thought the Ambassador was the top, and the secretary was into the collar-scene.

"The agency spread the word in Washington that the liberal ambassador was a lesbian without realizing that "Murphy" was also the name of her two-year-old black standard poodle. The bug in her bedroom had recorded her petting her dog. She was actually a married woman from a conservative family. [p. 459]"

Maybe that whole down-low business is specific to XY chromosomes, but Mary Cheney pretty much shoots down a suggestion that lesbians & conservative families don't mix.

but Mary Cheney pretty much shoots down a suggestion that lesbians & conservative families don't mix.

Never mind Ted Haggard, Mark Foley, Jeff Gannon/Guckert. . .

"Never mind Ted Haggard, Mark Foley, Jeff Gannon/Guckert. . ."

My, my... the sisterhood is expanding.

Maybe I was a little hasty in dismissing the CIA's angle.

The Conservative Deflator: They were the ones who got in bed with the mujaheddin in Afghanistan and helped give Usama bin Laden his basic training.
Read Charlie Wilson's War by George Crile. The CIA station chief in Pakistan was involved in supplying money and small arms to the Afghan resistance. That strategy would have kept the resistance fighting but not able to win. It was Congress, specifically a Texas congressman named Charlie Wilson who got the US to up the ante and led to supplying the mujahadin with Stingers to bring down the Hinds.
Good book, very disturbing. Much as this one.

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I think they used that story on "The Wire" a season or two ago, but it was about dogfighting.

Chalmers Johnson? You have to be kidding. The fellow is an old Stalinist who thinks North Korea is the greatest country on earth. His reason for liking a book that critizes the CIA is that it was the main enemy of his beloved KGB.

Fred, I don't think you know a damn thing about Chalmers Johnson. He predicted 9-11 two years before it happened in Blowback. I haven't read anything of his that suggests he thinks N.Korea is great. In short, you are full of shit.

As a last word, any organization (the CIA) that names it's headquarters after a criminal fascist loser like George H.W. Bush, needs to be put out of business.

Frank Zappa: "Dirty Love"

Frank zappa (guitar, vocals)
Ralph humphrey (drums)
Sal marquez (trumpet, vocals)
Tom fowler (bass)
Bruce fowler (trombone)
George duke (keyboards, synthesizer)
Ruth underwood (marimba, vibes, percussion)
Ian underwood (flute, clarinet, alto saxophone, tenor saxophone)
Jean-luc ponty (violin, baritone violin)
Ricky lancelotti (vocals)
Tina Turner & The Ikettes (backing vocals)

Give me
Your dirty love
Like you might surrender
To some dragon in your dreams

Give me
Your dirty love
Like a pink donation
To the dragon in your dreams

I dont need your sweet devotion
I dont want your cheap emotion
Just whip me up some dragon lotion
For your dirty love

Give me
Your dirty love
Like some tacky little pamphlet
In your daddys bottom drawer

Give me
Your dirty love
I dont believe you have ever seen
That book before

I dont need no consolation
I dont want your reservation
I only got one destination
An thats your dirty love

Give me
Your dirty love
Just like your mama
Make her fuzzy poodle do

Give me
Your dirty love
The way your mama
Make that nasty poodle chew

Ill ignore your cheap aroma
And your little-bo-peep diploma
Ill just put you in a coma
With some dirty love

The poodle bites!
(come on, frenchie)
The poodle chews it!
(snap it!)
The poodle bites!
(come on, frenchie)
The poodle chews it!
(snap it!)

Al: "*"

That's gotta be Al's most succinct and honest post ever.

"*" is not what I said, Donald. Kevin has merely decided to abandon any pretense of honoring the First Amendment.

Oh, good gravy, Al, Kevin isn't the Congress of the United States, and there isn't anything he can do or not do here which has anything to do with honoring the First Amendment. I mostly try to ignore anything you write, but I must say that if it is your goal to prove that Republicans have as many lackwits as Democrats, and possibly more egregious examples of them, you are doing a helluva job.

But it's still better to vote for Republicans. Because even though they're equally bad, Democrats are worse.

Actually, I only vote for Democrats slightly less frequently than Republicans, and one of the reasons for doing so is the type of Democrats which post here. To be fair, I don't vist Republican forums much, so there isn't as much opportunity to be reminded of how distasteful it is to associate with them, because, after all, to really know committed Republicans and Democrats is to have contempt for both. I've previously apologized for labeling Kevin the Hugh Hewitt of the Democratic Party, but it certainly would apply to most of the participants in this forum, if they were to publish a blog.

....the Hugh Hewitt of the Democratic Party.... would apply to most of the participants in this forum,Will Allen on August 3, 2007 at 11:15 AM

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