August 7, 2007
TEAR DOWN THAT WALL!....Good news from the New York Post:
The New York Times is poised to stop charging readers for online access to its Op-Ed columnists and other content, The Post has learned.
After much internal debate, Times executives including publisher Arthur Sulzberger Jr. made the decision to end the subscription-only TimesSelect service but have yet to make an official announcement, according to a source briefed on the matter.
Hooray! I give full credit to my two-year boycott of NYT op-eds. I knew Sulzberger would have to cave in to my awesome powers eventually.
—Kevin Drum 1:16 PM
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I was a TimesSelect subscriber at the very beginning. Then, when I read that only 150,000 or so people had actually subscribed, I felt like a chump. That, combined with the fact that I was basically paying $50.00 a year for Paul Krugman (I had had enough of Maureen Dowd after about six columns worth, made me decide that I wouldn't renew when my subscription lapsed. I wonder how many of those initial 150,000 made the same decision.
Posted by: brewmn on August 7, 2007 at 1:20 PM | PERMALINK
Can you boycott the crossword puzzle now?
Posted by: Roger Ailes on August 7, 2007 at 1:20 PM | PERMALINK
too late; they're already irrelevant
Posted by: bob on August 7, 2007 at 1:22 PM | PERMALINK
I, too, have boycotted the NYT, going so far as to buy the Sunday Washington Post instead of the NYT. I haven't been online to the NYT since they went "pay-up." I have used WaPo and Reuters, as well as the Huffington Post, for my online news. If they drop the wall, I will go back, hoping that the surge in readership will validate the voices that told them it was a bad idea to put opinion up for sale.
Posted by: cyrki on August 7, 2007 at 1:22 PM | PERMALINK
Will the 'free' access be a limited version, differentiating it from some form of 'full access' subscription?
Posted by: wishIwuz2 on August 7, 2007 at 1:24 PM | PERMALINK
Other than having the Times as an easy target for snark and derision what reason is there to end your boycott?
Posted by: steve duncan on August 7, 2007 at 1:25 PM | PERMALINK
The New York Times is poised to stop charging readers for online access to its Op-Ed columnists and other content
David Brooks for free. Woo-hoo!
Posted by: Al on August 7, 2007 at 1:32 PM | PERMALINK
Yea! Free Tom Friedmans for everyone!
The NYT is a "liberal hawk" rag - that's all there is to it. Before the Iraq War, the op-ed's were frequently AEI or Brookings guys. The NYT is utter crap. Their news section is just as compromised. Crap, top to bottom.
It's TNR lite over there. They should be ostracized and ridiculed.
Posted by: luci on August 7, 2007 at 1:33 PM | PERMALINK
I get TimesSelect for free because I subscribe to their Sunday edition. I like it a lot (probably because it IS free) for a feature that allows me to not only save any NYT article, BUT also ANY article on the web. I'd pay for that privilege, believe me.
Posted by: phoebes on August 7, 2007 at 1:35 PM | PERMALINK
Good for you, Kevin, and your awesome powers!
I have been a happy subscriber just to read Frank Rich - and Krugman, Herbert, Kristof - but getting them for free is even better. If it happens - - -
Posted by: Anne Holland on August 7, 2007 at 1:40 PM | PERMALINK
Crap. After nearly two years of missing Krugman, I paid the $50 a couple of months ago. I should have waited. (The story of my life.)
Posted by: anandine on August 7, 2007 at 1:51 PM | PERMALINK
Anandine--and here I was just about to post about how it was going to piss off the ones who paid for the subscription.
Posted by: DrBB on August 7, 2007 at 1:54 PM | PERMALINK
By the way, you all are familiar with screwsubwalls.blogspot.com, yes?
Posted by: DrBB on August 7, 2007 at 1:56 PM | PERMALINK
i dumped that crap after i realized you didn't get the crossword. Pay money to read Freidman and Dowd?
Cost extra for the crossword? yeah right.
Posted by: dontcallmefrancis on August 7, 2007 at 1:57 PM | PERMALINK
The forces of good triumph once more. Congrats, Kevin.
Posted by: Steve W. on August 7, 2007 at 2:13 PM | PERMALINK
Kevin, it wasn't just you - the new Congress surely gets some credit for this startling development.
Posted by: RS on August 7, 2007 at 2:16 PM | PERMALINK
Alwasy bizarre that they charged for nitwit columnists like Friedman and Dowd, but gave away their sterling news reporting away for free (I'm not counting their political reporting as sterling - Matt Bai and company are right up there with the Post and TNR as nitwits)
Now they are going to continue to give away their main product - I don't get it really. Charge a little something for the news and they should be able to make money off of it.
Posted by: Samuel Knight on August 7, 2007 at 2:21 PM | PERMALINK
Now, if only I could figure out a way to make the NYT pay me to read Brooks or Friedman! I was sorry to see them make their sorry ass return to the Sunday Times. It was just more wasted column inches of birdcage liner insofar as I was concerned.
Posted by: PrahaPartizan on August 7, 2007 at 2:23 PM | PERMALINK
i dumped that crap after i realized you didn't get the crossword. Pay money to read Freidman and Dowd? Cost extra for the crossword? yeah right.
Whereas I paid for the crossword and was neither surprised nor altogether devastated when it didn't get me the columnists after they went behind the subwall. It's all about priorities.
Posted by: DrBB on August 7, 2007 at 2:33 PM | PERMALINK
The NYT should have put the O'Hanlon and Pollock pro-surge editorial behind the TimesSelect wall. People should have to pay to read their crap.
I just cannot understand why the NYT is unable to cash in on the millions of eyeballs looking at the website every hour of every day.
Posted by: Brojo on August 7, 2007 at 2:42 PM | PERMALINK
I am a NYT non-subscriber and for two years have been reading Krugman, Rich, and any other favorite who gets stuck behind the wall occasionally. I go to truthout.com or commondreams.com and usually find what I missed. I thought everyone was doing that-- I guess being an internet novice (and 80 yrs. old)was a plus, like a bee that flies even tho' it is not aerodynamically possible for it to do so. washingtonmonthly is a daily stop to start my day.
1st time poster---
JMarie
Posted by: JMarie on August 7, 2007 at 2:47 PM | PERMALINK
Can you talk back to them?
I've gotten fussier so that I have to be able to respond to writers, like here. The internet moves on.
Posted by: Luther on August 7, 2007 at 2:54 PM | PERMALINK
Brooks, The Paxil pundit
Posted by: apeman on August 7, 2007 at 3:34 PM | PERMALINK
Kevin: "I give full credit to my two-year boycott of NYT op-eds."
Given that both you and I failed to attend YearlyKos in Chicago, coincidentally both citing "procrastination" as our supposed rationale, I would have instead credited our mutual and obvious propensity to be a couple of cheap bastards.
Posted by: Donald from Hawaii on August 7, 2007 at 3:36 PM | PERMALINK
DrBB, I wasn't, so thanx
Posted by: smartalek on August 7, 2007 at 3:38 PM | PERMALINK
JMarie: I guess being an internet novice...
Nah...you found your way around, didn't you? We were all noobs once.
Welcome to Political Animal comments section!
Posted by: grape_crush on August 7, 2007 at 3:45 PM | PERMALINK
Yes, but now you will have no excuse not to read David Brooks.
Posted by: Rula Lenska on August 7, 2007 at 4:19 PM | PERMALINK
I-yi-yi. This isn't good news, to the extent that it underlines the nonviability of the traditional newspaper model.
The web has plenty of commentators, but most actual reporting is done by newspaper men and women.
This activity needs to be funded in one way or another. I'm not sure web ads will do the trick.
Posted by: Measure for Measure on August 7, 2007 at 4:23 PM | PERMALINK
I share Measure for Measure's concern -- Although I wasn't entirely sure that TimesSelect was the right answer, I'm also not entirely sure how we pay for all of this with Google Ads.
I'm certainly not like that guy who wrote the book suggesting that only big-time journalists should be allowed to be read, but we do need a mix of big-time journalists with all of the others. To suggest that we're going to get the information we need from a bunch of folks sitting in their living rooms (like all of us are doing right now!) is naive.
And, in the middle of all of this, how does WSJ.COM still get away with it? (And, now that Rupert will probably put a picture of an attractive and minimally dressed person on page 3 of the soon-to-be newly-revamped WSJ (finally dumping the Salt & Pepper cartoon--one small blessing), will I have to pay to see that as well?)
In all seriousness, I remain worried...
Posted by: Michael on August 7, 2007 at 4:41 PM | PERMALINK
reporting is done by newspaper men and women.
Many have written that we rely upon newpapers for the news. In none of the articles have I seen mention of Bloomberg, a new media company that does much of its own reporting.
Posted by: Brojo on August 7, 2007 at 4:43 PM | PERMALINK
Maureen Dowd is available on the blogs now. Goodie.
What's her motto? "Keeping the White House Safe From Democrats since 2000" or something to that effect?
Posted by: HeavyJ on August 7, 2007 at 5:15 PM | PERMALINK
I too subscribed and then realized all I wanted to read there was Krugman.
So yay! $50 freed up for people whose writing I actually appreciate - like Kevin Drum! And Josh Marshall! And Jane Hamsher! And Digby!
Posted by: Ish on August 7, 2007 at 7:41 PM | PERMALINK
Don't take all the credit, Kevin.
You had some help out here.
Posted by: wileycat on August 7, 2007 at 8:05 PM | PERMALINK
Been away for a while.
Is luci the newest troll?
Nasty one, that.
Posted by: wileycat on August 7, 2007 at 8:09 PM | PERMALINK
"David Brooks for free. Woo-hoo!"
Al - couldn't agree more. Bring back Safire!
Intelligent, informed dissent is fine.
David is neither.
Since I agree with you on this, I won't comment further.
Posted by: wileycat on August 7, 2007 at 8:16 PM | PERMALINK
> Now, if only I could figure out a way to make the NYT pay me to
> read Brooks or Friedman!
I wouldn't read those two if you paid me. (You wait for one like that for a long time, and then....)
Posted by: Goldrush on August 7, 2007 at 8:36 PM | PERMALINK
I get the weekday paper version, so the Select stuff useful, especially since I'm not around on Sunday to deal with the $5 wad of newsprint.
WP's opinionists are abundant and interesting. I like Krugman, but I thought he was writing too much before he got the regular slot. Maybe the Times could change him to twice a month with an option to write extras when provoked.
It'll be interesting to see what sort of subscriber perks the NYT comes up with. They haven't yet pestered me with questionnaires (unlike the run-up to Times Select).
Posted by: David Martin on August 7, 2007 at 10:30 PM | PERMALINK
Here's something I wondered about. They put the collunmists behind the wall to make people pay for subcriptions. So when the Times' revenues went up, did they share some of it with Friedman et al?
Posted by: bobo the chimp on August 8, 2007 at 1:09 PM | PERMALINK