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August 26, 2007
By: Kevin Drum

RUMORS....Here's the latest from U.S. News & World Report's Washington Whispers column:

The buzz among top Bushies is that beleaguered Attorney General Alberto Gonzales finally plans to depart and will be replaced by Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff. Why Chertoff? Officials say he's got fans on Capitol Hill, is untouched by the Justice prosecutor scandal, and has more experience than Gonzales did, having served as a federal judge and assistant attorney general.

This doesn't seem very likely to me, but who knows? Stranger things have happened. What I'm really curious about, though, is whether or not anyone has ever plowed through, say, a year's worth of Washington Whispers columns and figured out its track record for "buzz" items like this. Are they mostly true? Mostly bogus? Half and half? Should I even be paying attention to stuff like this?

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Ah, Kevin.

If this does turn out to be true, I hope your satisfied.

You've succeeded in chasing out another good and dedicated public servant. Gonzalez was a top notch mind and he served his President well. He protected his President from Congressional onslaughts. He knew how to play the game and win.

If people see that this is the fate that befalls public servants who stick to their guns, we're not going to be attracting top notch talent to the upper echelons of government any longer. Of course, that's already the case in the beuracracy.

Posted by: egbert on August 26, 2007 at 1:53 PM | PERMALINK

The Attorney General is supposed to serve the people and defend the Constitution. He is not supposed to be the president's personal lawyer or serve only the president. It appears, at almost every turn, Attorney General Gonzalez perceived his loyalty to President Bush as trumping his duty to the people and their Constitution.

Posted by: Behind the Orange Curtain on August 26, 2007 at 1:58 PM | PERMALINK

I don't think Gonzales is going to leave. But it would be most unfortunate if he was forced out. The last thing we need in this country is more honest officials driven out of office by the politics of personal destruction.

Posted by: Al on August 26, 2007 at 2:02 PM | PERMALINK

It seems this would be a good example of replacing bad with worse....

Posted by: mikey on August 26, 2007 at 2:07 PM | PERMALINK

Don't feed the trolls....

Posted by: OmniDane on August 26, 2007 at 2:12 PM | PERMALINK

Well, Chertoff would certainly be a better AG than Gonzales, and he'd almost certainly be a better AG than head of Homeland Security. I'd listen to what James Comey thought about this, though, if he'd say.

Posted by: David in NY on August 26, 2007 at 2:22 PM | PERMALINK

I think the bottom line of this true-or-not rumor is the pool of talent Bush can turn to is getting very, very small.

Posted by: anonymous on August 26, 2007 at 2:25 PM | PERMALINK

btw, wasn't Chertoff warning in spring of a "gut feeling" about summertime terrorist attacks in America?

Now we can extend the Chertoff Gut Doctrine to Constitutional interpretation.

"We don't need any habeas corpus -- I've got a gut feeling he's guilty."

Saves lots of money on lawyers, and isn't that in everyone's best interest?

Posted by: anonymous on August 26, 2007 at 2:29 PM | PERMALINK

Gonzales would appear unlikely to leave since he just returned from Iraq where he led the legal surge. Alberto is overseeing the transformation of the law in Iraq so that the insurgents can be judged over there instead of over here.

Posted by: TJM on August 26, 2007 at 2:36 PM | PERMALINK

Lots of pundits make predictions. I think it would be a worthwhile project to tally them up, by pundit and outlet, and count:

1. How many predictions are made.
2. How many of these are concrete enough to be testable. ("Gonzales will be replaced by Chertoff in the next month" is testable. "Democrats will continue to hate freedom" isn't.)
3. How many of the testable predictions turn out to be true.

Posted by: jimBOB on August 26, 2007 at 2:50 PM | PERMALINK

Al-bert: "You've succeeded in chasing out another good and dedicated public servant."

Kevin, your power knows no bounds!

Posted by: Kenji on August 26, 2007 at 2:57 PM | PERMALINK

Bogus! they did the same with Sec. Rice but she is still in DC as of today.

Posted by: bob on August 26, 2007 at 3:00 PM | PERMALINK

Recall this from thinkprogress.org:

September 1, 2005
Chertoff Won’t Acknowledge Reality
Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff today on NPR’s All Things Considered:

Robert Siegel: We are hearing from our reporter, he’s on another line right now, thousands of people at the convention center in New Orleans with no food, zero.

Chertoff: As I said, I’m telling you we are getting food and water to areas where people are staging. The one about an episode like this is if you talk to someone or you get a rumor or an anecdotal version of something I think it’s dangerous to extrapolate it all over the place.

[Snip]

Robert Siegel: But Mr. Secretary when you say we shouldn’t listen to rumors. These are things coming from reporters who have not only covered many many other hurricanes, they’ve covered wars and refugee camps. These aren’t rumors, they are saying there are thousands of people there.

Chertoff: I would be…I have not heard a report of thousands of people in the convention center who don’t have food and water.


Posted by: consider wisely always on August 26, 2007 at 3:01 PM | PERMALINK

Sorry, Kevin, I mean "you're" power.

Posted by: Kenji on August 26, 2007 at 3:04 PM | PERMALINK

If you were busy wiretapping and otherwise spying on people and had just established that the AG gets to monitor such activities, who would you want to be AG? A head of Homeland Security who defines the job as keeping the homeland secure from Democrats would be exactly the person you'd want to see in that job. Gonzales has been loyal but he isn't the guy who knows where the enemies are, so that they can be spied upon, illegally incarcerated without rights of habeas corpus, so those nice new camps they built won't go to waste before the election (which many of my friends believe is never going to happen). This kind of rumor makes plenty of sense in the context of the right conspiracy theory.

Posted by: chuck on August 26, 2007 at 3:12 PM | PERMALINK

Chertoff is also popular with young people who know him as Skelator.

Posted by: R.L. on August 26, 2007 at 3:27 PM | PERMALINK

One thing this administration has been good at is replacing bad members of the administration with even worse members. Given that, I don't think Chertoff is unqualified enough to get the nomination. Yeah, he's bad, but he'd probably be no worse than Gonzales. I think if we want to find who would be the next attorney General, we need to look in lower places. It will probably be some Liberty University graduate with an extensive history of illegal election tactics.

Posted by: fostert on August 26, 2007 at 3:31 PM | PERMALINK

When Bush first went into office, he borrowed extensively from his dad’s old rolodex - but honorable old poppy Bushie didn't get along wiht little Bushie, and thus little Bushie never seems to have any friends or serious people who want to work for him.

Bushie is always promoting from within for jobs that most of his ever shrinking staff are not qualified to do.

It makes you wonder what the hell Bush and Cheney are reallly doing that they anybody else to see?

Posted by: Me_again on August 26, 2007 at 3:46 PM | PERMALINK

Its hard to define the track record of something like Washington Whispers. Surely its accurate to say there are rumors Gonzales will resign, so that in of itself is a story. Whether it comes to pass, the publication of the rumor itself may influence that-- that's why its called a "trial balloon".

I should note, American Conservative's version of Washington Whispers (but focused on national security) is excellent. Its written by former CIA officer Philip Giraldi and he really knows his business. For example, a big story earlier this month was the CIA Inspector General's newly released 2005 report that excoriated Tenet and others for pre-9/11 intelligence failures.

Giraldi had the story in August 1, 2005 issue:

"A CIA internal review of the agency’s performance prior to 9/11 is harshly critical of former CIA Director George Tenet, former Director of Operations James Pavitt, and the former chief of the Counterterrorist Center, Cofer Black, for not doing everything possible to confront terrorism... The report, completed by CIA Inspector General John Helgerson, is especially acerbic regarding the failure of the agency to stop two of the 9/11 hijackers, Nawaf al-Hazmi and Khalid al-Mihdhar, as they entered the United States. Black did not share information on the two men with the FBI agents assigned to the Counterterrorist Center at the CIA and also turned down a request for a formal memorandum to be sent to FBI Headquarters..."
http://www.amconmag.com/2005_08_01/article3.html

Posted by: beowulf on August 26, 2007 at 3:50 PM | PERMALINK

Chucklehead Chertoff is Alberto Gonzales on steroids. He is every bit the cold hearted criminal sycophant for the Bushies, a total right winger with a mean streak, AND he is by light years a more competent intellect and lawyer. Allow Chertoo to be installed as AG and you can kiss what is left of the Constitution goodbye. I am sure the worthless dumbfuck Democratic leaders are probably all for it then. This man is dangerous; do NOT let this happen.

Posted by: bmaz on August 26, 2007 at 3:52 PM | PERMALINK

I find it very hard to believe that Gonzo is leaving, and if he did, I'd find it hard to believe that the Democrats would permit confirmation of any loyal Bushie (which Chertoff clearly is) as AG. Though a month ago, I'd have laughed at the thought that the Democrats would permit the Bush version of the FISA bill to pass, so who knows.

To segue a bit, this comment above caught my eye: "I'd listen to what James Comey thought about this, though, if he'd say." This just goes to how this corrupt administration has defined deviance down. Guys, Comey is no great wise man of Jeffersonian democracy and integrity. OK, he ain't Abu Gonzalez, but that is a pretty low standard. As far as I can tell, he is a pretty much straight down the line Repub wingnut, with perhaps a touch more honesty and integrity than the rest of this sorry crew. Remember, he had no problem signing off on the acknowledged spying program--which is clearly illegal under FISA (and likely unconstitutional). He did scruple against the initial (and still undisclosed) program. God knows the details of that one, but, as it was likely Cheney's wet dream, you can probably take a look at Himmler and Nazi Germany and get a good idea.

Posted by: Marlowe on August 26, 2007 at 4:05 PM | PERMALINK

Gonzalez' departure, if he goes, means that the 'taco-bender-chasing' strategy of the Bush admin is finally over with. For the Repukeliscum, the only interest they had in Gonzalez is his Hispanicity. They didn't care if he was competent. In fact, if he was incompetent, he was more useful. They could say "See, we stick with the Spic, even when the spic can't cut it."

But now Rove is gone. Rove cared about the Hispanic vote, even while he was crafting a plan to end Repukeliscum hispanic outreach for a generation with the immigrant bashing. He tried to have it both ways: reforming immigration and bashing immigration. The Bashing work, the reform did not, so Gonzalez is gone.

For Democrats, we care about the content of the character. For the Repukeliscum, all that matters is the skin color. That's why Rice, the most incompetent SoS in 100 years, is staying on. She black, and that's why she's there.

Posted by: POed Lib on August 26, 2007 at 4:14 PM | PERMALINK

I don't think having Gonzales had anything to do with his skin color; it was all about the fact that he is a loyal cipher that can, and has been, molded to do and say anything they want as cover for their corrupt and criminal policies and actions. The fact that he might bring a couple of Hispanic votes was merely a fortuitous benefit. It wouldn't matter if he was purple; they needed a clueless loyal shill, and AGAG fit the bill.

Posted by: bmaz on August 26, 2007 at 4:27 PM | PERMALINK

I swear to God, if we dared scratch the surface of Michael Chertoff, we'd find Ming the Merciless from the campy 1980 movie Flash Gordon. The physical resemblance is eerily uncanny.*

And that, of course, partially explains why the Department of Homeland Security's performance under Mr. Chertoff's stewardship has often been the real-life equivalent of Saturday morning cartoons.

* The trolls, of course, will all now comment on how Chertoff really bears a striking resemblance to the distinguished actor Max von Sydow, who hammed it up mercilessly as the evil Ming. (Bad pun intended.)

Posted by: Donald from Hawaii on August 26, 2007 at 4:31 PM | PERMALINK

I take your point, PO, but I think the Repubs' motivation for favoring these incompetents is both simpler and more complicated. Yes, they want the "flesh-color" band-aids they provide, electorally speaking. But even more crucial is that the "house-n....." mentality (as decried by Harry Belafonte) creates the perfect mind-set to be an ideal Bush loyalist.

To join the club, you must be a Goering-like schemer (Cheney), a Goebbelsian psychopath (Rumsfeld, Chertoff), or self-loathing Himmleresque sycophant (Abu, Condi, you name them). Add the hope-they-
forgive-me-for-being-ethnic component, and you have a particularly dangerous psychological stew.

Not that they are like Nazis or anything...

Posted by: Kenji on August 26, 2007 at 4:42 PM | PERMALINK

Ah, Kevin.

If this does turn out to be true, we should all derive profound satisfaction, but we must also resolve to continue to closely monitor the actions of this corrupt, deceitful administration.

We've succeeded in chasing out another good and dedicated public sycophant. Gonzalez was a top notch political hack and he fellated his President well. He protected his President from legitimate Congressional inquiry. He knew how to play the game and did his best to provide cover for a corrupt and inept administration, as he tried to disable checks and balances built into our constitutional system by its framers.

If people see that this is the fate that befalls public sycophants who lie to Congress and adhere stubbornly to their unlawful efforts to utilize public resources (like the Justice Department) for partisan political gain, we're not going to be attracting low-brow political hacks to the upper echelons of government any longer.

Posted by: shystr on August 26, 2007 at 4:51 PM | PERMALINK

Turns out Mr. Chertoff co-authored with Viet Dinh, the USA PATRIOT Act, signed into law October 26, 2001. As head of the Justice Department's criminal division, he advised the Central Intelligence Agency on coercive interrogation sessions.

You may recall Senator Leahy grilled Mr. Chertoff about his role in the torture memo--and he had a no-can-recollect type of moment, then gave a lawyerly discourse.


Posted by: consider wisely always on August 26, 2007 at 5:07 PM | PERMALINK

Recall as DHS chief he oversaw wholesale separation of residents
from the Gulf Coast after Katrina struck--- and did not that mass civilian relocation scenario smack unseemingly of martial law?? People said they did not know where they were being transported to, and some ended up in caged areas out west. Many had no clue where their families were. And how about how FEMA was advised by lawyers not to let people know about the respiratory health hazards of the trailers they received from FEMA...scandal after scandal.

Posted by: consider wisely always on August 26, 2007 at 5:26 PM | PERMALINK

I'm having ethical violation overload. Wasn't Chertoff nominated for something else, or about to be nominated, and then all sorts of seedy things about a mistress and a government provided trysting place near ground zero force his name to be withdrawn? I'm pretty sure I'm not mixing him up with Giuliani and his trysting pad, because that was pre-9/11, and this other place was post-9/11. I tried googling mistress chertoff and ground zero, but nothing came up (except my lunch). Too bad he's not a Dem, then they could get him for not withholding social security tax on his nanny.

Posted by: jussumbody on August 26, 2007 at 5:36 PM | PERMALINK

I hope he doesn't resign because he needs to be impeached in order to provide accountability that has been lacking the last 6 years. Gonzales and Addington have both used their legal arguments to overturn checks and balances, asserting stunning powers belonging to the executive as commander-in-chief, and scrapping long-standing precedent about habeas corpus and torture, and politicizing the Department of Justice by making it an arm of the President's political agenda/policies instead of an impartial dispenser of justice.

Posted by: Phyl on August 26, 2007 at 5:45 PM | PERMALINK

Didn't you get the memo, Phyl? Impreachment has been off the table for almost a year now. That seems to have been a campaign promise Pelosi is afraid to break.
This week's Onion has an article about Democratic protesters in DC censuring Bush in effigy. It seems more true than the real new most days.

Posted by: jussumbody on August 26, 2007 at 6:04 PM | PERMALINK

Rove is not gone, he's simply working from another office, and Gonzo isn't going anywhere. He's been a success at his actual job, which is to protect the president. As long as he's AG, he can stall any attempts at investigating White House chicanery. If he goes, the Democrats will use the confirmation hearings for the replacement as a way of bringing that stuff to light.

Bush has nothing to lose by hanging on to Gonzo. His 25% will always be there for him, and he's given up on anything but running out the clock without being impeached at this point.

Posted by: Slideguy on August 26, 2007 at 6:22 PM | PERMALINK

Don't feed the trolls....

Yeah, those were too obvious. No one is truly that stupid.

Posted by: TR on August 26, 2007 at 6:30 PM | PERMALINK

Wasn't Chertoff nominated for something else, or about to be nominated, and then all sorts of seedy things about a mistress and a government provided trysting place near ground zero force his name to be withdrawn?

That was Bernie Kerik, the mobbed-up Guiliani aide who was going to be the original choice to replace Tom Ridge at DHS. Chertoff was brought in when all the bad news came to light.

Posted by: Otto Man on August 26, 2007 at 6:33 PM | PERMALINK

It may be something simpler. Perhaps the White House has decided it needs someone who doesn't visibly smirk when he lies to Congress and the country.

Posted by: xaxnar on August 26, 2007 at 6:50 PM | PERMALINK

Kevin, your power knows no bounds!

Sorry, Kevin, I mean "you're" power.

Idiot. The expression should be "Kevin, you're power knows no bounce!

Posted by: absent observer on August 26, 2007 at 6:53 PM | PERMALINK

The whisper about Washington Whispers:

They are about as accurate as you are Kevin.
(Weren't you FOR the war before you were against it?)

The question still remains:

Should I be paying attention to stuff like this?

Posted by: ROTFLMLiberalAO on August 26, 2007 at 7:10 PM | PERMALINK

"It may be something simpler. Perhaps the White House has decided it needs someone who doesn't visibly smirk when he lies to Congress and the country."

But then people watching might get the impression that Congressional questions should be taken seriously, which might lead to people suspecting that it's a respected institution, maybe even with powers of some sort. God knows what sort of anarchy will follow then.

Posted by: DBake on August 26, 2007 at 7:47 PM | PERMALINK

***

Posted by: mhr on August 26, 2007 at 7:55 PM | PERMALINK

"That gave us Janet Reno, the worst attorney general the US has ever had. But a man, Webster Hubbell, really ran the office."

The loony wack brigade checks in. Had your syphilis test yet this month? Reno is not a fascist like Gonzalez, but then people like you are fascists and feel comfy when the fascists run things.

Posted by: POed Lib on August 26, 2007 at 8:18 PM | PERMALINK

'In 1994 Hubbell was convicted of mail fraud and sentenced to 21 months in federal prison. He was the ideal Clinton liberal- he never ratted on his boss about Whitewater or anything else.'
--mhr


Not that Hubbell had anything to "rat" on Clinton about with regards to the Whitewater Development Corp., as the comprehensive Pillsbury, Madison & Sutro report concluded. Of course, conservatives never let facts get in the way of their misguided opinions.

Posted by: The Conservative Deflator on August 26, 2007 at 8:39 PM | PERMALINK

Poor mhr: *** is the most intelligent thing he (n)ever said.

Posted by: Kenji on August 26, 2007 at 9:07 PM | PERMALINK

I want to believe this, but in truth I bet it is about as spurious as the Washington Monthly's college rankings.

Posted by: d on August 26, 2007 at 9:44 PM | PERMALINK

This rumor resembles the Iraqi Study Group which was an attempt by wise old Republicans to bail Bush out of his mess. Bush needs to get rid of Gonzales because he has become a walking embarassment for the administration. But Bush won't fire Gonzales because he's the firewall between Bush and War Crimes trials. What the rumor is suggesting is a way to appear to fire Gonzales which replacing him with a better, more efficient liar - Chertoff. As long as people don't recall that responsibility for Katrina and his other authoritarian acts it would be possible to get him through Congress. Though, personally, I think Democrats ought to refuse to consider any Bush nominee on general principles.

Posted by: beb on August 26, 2007 at 9:54 PM | PERMALINK

the only way he would leave is if there are facts to come out that can't be bull shitted away any longer.

best line ever from Max:

you know carl rove is lying when his lips are moving.

same for bush and the rest of the stupid thugs

Posted by: erict on August 26, 2007 at 10:39 PM | PERMALINK

...Chertoff really bears a striking resemblance to the distinguished actor Max von Sydow...

I'm thinkin' Max Schreck.

Posted by: shortstop on August 26, 2007 at 10:54 PM | PERMALINK

Thanks, Otto man. No I remember.

I guess we have no idea where Chertoff's lovenest is. Not yet. Maybe it's under the naval observatory.

Posted by: jussumbody on August 26, 2007 at 11:36 PM | PERMALINK

This fix is in, but if it weren't congress would insist upon a AG from outside the admin.

Posted by: Boronx on August 27, 2007 at 12:32 AM | PERMALINK

What I'd really like to hear the Democratic presidential nominee say is something like "I promise to put experienced, qualified candidates in the government/cabinet positions I am required to fill....."

Has anyone heard this yet? Just wondering.....

ELMO

Posted by: ELMO on August 27, 2007 at 12:34 AM | PERMALINK

Chertoff to replace AGAG would be a welcome move, as GWB appears to have become inert after dismissing Rumsfeld, a move which came two or three years too late. If he could only dismiss Cheney! But that would invite extra Secret Service protection needs.

Anyone who could nominate an illiterate like Harriet Miers to SCOTUS might not realize that Gonzales is rotting festering meat.

Posted by: daveinboca on August 27, 2007 at 1:26 AM | PERMALINK

With his pro-illegal stance, Lettucehead has no credibility as a security person or as a possible attorney general.

http://michellemalkin.com/2007/07/10/lettucehead-alert-chertoff-has-a-gut-feeling/

We can thank Alberto Gonzales for bringing us a fresh new cultural outlook on subjects such as the unitary executive, torture, habeas corpus, sovereignty, and so forth. If you like tacos, you'll love America of the future.

Posted by: Luther on August 27, 2007 at 2:00 AM | PERMALINK

Regarding the reliability of "rumors", the ex-CIA source of the following one has been relatively impeccable.

Seems our NeoConNazi powers that be absolutely have their hearts set on yet another wanton campaign of "liberation" (i.e., Aggressive War). Anyone "surprised"?:

Terror label 'paves way for air strikes'
[Sunday Telegraph / UK]

The White House's plans to designate Iran's Revolutionary Guards Corps as a terrorist organisation are intended to give the Bush administration cover if it launches military strikes on the Islamic republic, according to a prominent former CIA officer.

Washington accuses Iran's Revolutionary Guards Corps of backing attacks on American forces in Iraq Robert Baer, who was a high-ranking operative in the Middle East, said last week that senior government officials had told him the administration was preparing for air strikes on the guards' bases and probably also on Iran's nuclear facilities within the next six months. ...

Posted by: Poilu on August 27, 2007 at 2:30 AM | PERMALINK

Michel Chertoff, joint Israeli and US citzenship. Enforcer of Bush GWOT. Botcher of Mussauwi prosecution. Sounds about right.

Posted by: Neal on August 27, 2007 at 7:31 AM | PERMALINK

Kurt Nimo had an article a few days ago of chertoff threatening states who refuse to order people to be chipped. And anyone not chipped will need a passport to picnic in national parks. Look up Noahide Laws and chertoff - will let you know why there are guillitines in the Halliburton Detention Camps.

Posted by: Don Siegleman on August 27, 2007 at 8:02 AM | PERMALINK

From the NYT:

Gonzales Resigns as Attorney General

Do I smell "recess appointment"?

Posted by: noone on August 27, 2007 at 8:15 AM | PERMALINK

Drat! Noone stole my comment.

Well, Kevin, I guess this whisper was correct after all.

Posted by: daveb99 on August 27, 2007 at 8:51 AM | PERMALINK

MSNBC is saying that Paul Clement will be named the acting AG, and firedoglake.com has some information up about him.

Posted by: Lucy B on August 27, 2007 at 9:23 AM | PERMALINK

i always assume the Whispers are plants by the admin, but I've never forgotten how astonished I was by one in the first year of Bush's presidency, to the effect that Bush never uses email and certainly doesn't have a blackberry. years later, we know why.

Posted by: paperpusher on August 27, 2007 at 9:27 AM | PERMALINK

Bush had a deal with Reid to NOT MAKE recess appointments.

Will Bush keep his word? Does the rain rise from the ground into the clouds?

Posted by: POed Lib on August 27, 2007 at 9:34 AM | PERMALINK

Gonzales is definitely out, but not sure who replaces him yet. Probably one of the deputies for now.

Posted by: Ringo on August 27, 2007 at 10:01 AM | PERMALINK

Score one for Washington Whispers.

Geez, go to the top - Pat Robertson can tape the 700 Club from DOJ, can he not? And no bare bosoms in the background - Ah, the legacy of Big John.

Posted by: thethirdPaul on August 27, 2007 at 10:07 AM | PERMALINK

Score one for consistency. According the the NYT, Gonzalez resigned to W on Friday, but was denying he'd resigned to reporters and admin spokesman all weekend.

Posted by: just sayin on August 27, 2007 at 10:11 AM | PERMALINK


The office of the Attorney General issued a brief statement saying only that Mr. Gonzales wishes to return to Texas and spend more time with Karl Rove.

homer www.altara.blogspot.com

Posted by: altara on August 27, 2007 at 10:15 AM | PERMALINK

I don't think Gonzales is going to leave.

Posted by: Al on August 26, 2007 at 2:02 PM

With that kind of track record, I only hope Al also picks the Red Sox to win the World Series, so we won't have to be assaulted with "Sweet Caroline" sung by tens of thousands of yuppies this October. (Wait -- the Mets use the song, too. Dammit.)

Posted by: Vincent on August 27, 2007 at 10:20 AM | PERMALINK

Have you noticed the Rats are jumping ship Rove now Gonzales wonder when Cheney and Bush are going to commit treason and follow suit.

Posted by: Al on August 27, 2007 at 11:04 AM | PERMALINK




 

 

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