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September 11, 2007
By: Kevin Drum

QUOTE OF THE DAY....James Inhofe on how the war is going:

"It's a huge success story."

Inhofe is usually my default pick for worst member of the Senate. This seems right up his alley.

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"We're kickin' ass!" -W

Serious, baby. The leaders of the greatest country ever.

Posted by: Gore/Edwards 08 on September 11, 2007 at 4:31 PM | PERMALINK

The guy is a total moron.

Posted by: POed Lib on September 11, 2007 at 4:35 PM | PERMALINK

People of Oklahoma, I feel your pain. Where's Alek Hidell been, anyway?

Posted by: shortstop on September 11, 2007 at 4:36 PM | PERMALINK

Inhofe is way off. It is not a huge success story. It is a Bunyanesque, colossal, cyclopean, elephantine, enormous, gargantuan, giant, gigantic, herculean, heroic, immense, mammoth, massive, mastodonic, monstrous, monumental, mountainous, pythonic, stupendous, titanic, tremendous, success story. It is the success story of all success stories. It is the single greatest event in world history led by the greatest mind ever to grace God's creation. Al & egbert shall dance in ecstasy at the glorious event...it is...OK, that's enough of that.

Posted by: Bush Lover on September 11, 2007 at 4:37 PM | PERMALINK

Inhofe lives in his own little world. Whaty kind of voting machines do they use in OK? I can't believe the voters there share his views.

Posted by: markg8 on September 11, 2007 at 4:37 PM | PERMALINK

Is he retarded?

Posted by: Xanthippas on September 11, 2007 at 4:41 PM | PERMALINK

Sen. Inhofe is also the GOP's #1 global warming denier--which is saying quite a bit.

With any luck, future generations will look upon James Inhofe with the same degree of contempt and shame that is usually reserved for figures standing proudly on the wrong side of history--like the folks who accused Galileo of heresy, for instance.

Posted by: Moonlight on September 11, 2007 at 4:43 PM | PERMALINK

General David Petraeus said something very similar. "As a bottom line up front, the military objectives of the surge are in large measure being met"

http://tinyurl.com/38fsqe

Why should I trust your opinion over the views of the four star general in charge of the War on Terrorism and Al-Qaeda in Iraq?

Posted by: Al on September 11, 2007 at 4:46 PM | PERMALINK

How wide is his stance?

Posted by: Doofus on September 11, 2007 at 4:49 PM | PERMALINK

Is he retarded?

Yes. (thbaeosatsq...h/t a)

Posted by: Blue Girl, Red State (aka G.C.) on September 11, 2007 at 4:51 PM | PERMALINK

By coincidence, I got a mailing this week from Andrew Rice, a Democratic state senator hoping to unseat Inhofe in 2008. Since Inhofe is probably the single worst and stupidest U.S. senator, as Kevin says, I'm sending Rice a few bucks from out of state.

Posted by: daveMB on September 11, 2007 at 4:53 PM | PERMALINK

Thanks again Oklahoma, for making Missouri look good.

Posted by: RollaMO on September 11, 2007 at 4:54 PM | PERMALINK

Funny only to me but I read this as

Inhofe is usually my default prick for worst member of the Senate.

Posted by: ckelly on September 11, 2007 at 4:55 PM | PERMALINK

Why should I trust your opinion over the views of the four star general in charge of the War on Terrorism and Al-Qaeda in Iraq?
Posted by: Al

um, because petraeus has been wrong in his past rosy assessments and drum mostly right? or because petraeus won't disclose where he gets his numbers from or his methodology?

or is this a trick question?

your pal,
blake

Posted by: blake on September 11, 2007 at 4:55 PM | PERMALINK

>>the War on Terrorism and Al-Qaeda in Iraq

Chairman Mao salutes your Maoism. I'm going to go eat some Glorious and Patriotic Cheese Fries now.

Posted by: Orson on September 11, 2007 at 4:59 PM | PERMALINK

Updated: 50 minutes ago
WASHINGTON AP - As Senate Republicans sharply challenged President Bush’s top military general and ambassador in Iraq on Tuesday, administration officials said Bush would tell the nation this week he plans to reduce the American troop presence in Iraq by about 30,000 by next summer.

The cuts — in line with recommendations made Monday by Gen. David Petraeus — would be conditioned on continued progress in Iraq, officials told The Associated Press.

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All Bush is announcing is removal of the "surge" troops that were supposed to be there short term anyway. AP manages in one sentence to portray Senate Republicans as spanking Bush and at the same time make it out like reducing troop levels to 130,000 is some sort of concession to peaceniks. Geez, what a load of BS. Am I wrong or is now, September, when this surge was supposed to have accomplished its goals? They'd start coming home now, right? Not the end of next summer? This nation is like a college coed on spring break. Give'em a few beers and next thing you know it's stupid human trick time. Only instead of getting flashed or laid you get free reign to destroy other nations.

Posted by: steve duncan on September 11, 2007 at 4:59 PM | PERMALINK

James Inhofe on how the war is going: "It's a huge success story." Inhofe is usually my default pick for worst member of the Senate. This seems right up his alley.

—Kevin Drum

He may be the worst member of the Senate but he is signalling the theme that Petraeus, Bush and all of the serious repug presidential candidates will be parroting going forward: We're winning. Hell, McCain is already there. Once again, future news out of Iraq will be heavily manipulated to show success against AQI, and dems who argue with the news will be branded traitors who want us to lose.

The purpose of the war, the objectives of the surge, and the earmarks of success have all been redefined -- right under the dems' noses. The assumption that our efforts in Iraq will still be seen by the public as in terrible shape next year and thus benefit dem candidates is wrong.

Bush is strongly energized by this win and he's not going to settle for a draw in Iraq -- even if it means having to go to war with Iran.

Posted by: Econobuzz on September 11, 2007 at 5:00 PM | PERMALINK

I would have to say that Lieberman is a pretty close second. I was napping today and woke up to his question about whether it would be a good idea to authorize American troops to chase Iranian evildoers into Iran. Petraeus momentarily got a deer-in-the-headlights look on his as if to say, "Are you really asking me to say that on national TV?" and then said something along the lines of "I think we can handle this in Iraq."

Unbelievable.

Posted by: THS on September 11, 2007 at 5:00 PM | PERMALINK

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Posted by: mhr on September 11, 2007 at 5:05 PM | PERMALINK

Petraeus momentarily got a deer-in-the-headlights look on his as if to say, "Are you really asking me to say that on national TV?" and then said something along the lines of "I think we can handle this in Iraq." Unbelievable. Posted by: THS

This was brought up in a different manner yesterday by someone. One scenario for the continued U.S. presence in Iraq is for our troops to be watching the borders for a while longer once the Iraqis "stand up." Vis-a-vis the borders with Iran and Syria, it makes a lot of sense.

Posted by: JeffII on September 11, 2007 at 5:08 PM | PERMALINK

Why should I trust your opinion over the views of the four star general in charge of the War on Terrorism and Al-Qaeda in Iraq?"

Who you gonna believe, me or your own eyes?

Actually, if you read the Petraeus statement with sufficient care, you realize itdoesn't deliver nearly as much as it promises.

Posted by: Buce on September 11, 2007 at 5:09 PM | PERMALINK

Here mhr let me help you...

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Posted by: mhr on September 11, 2007 at 5:05 PM | PERMALINK

Posted by: ckelly on September 11, 2007 at 5:10 PM | PERMALINK

Wasn't Inhofe one of the Senators who's plane was shot at by RPG rounds while taking off from Iraq?

Maybe he was fully medicated by then and doesn't remember...

Posted by: elmo on September 11, 2007 at 5:31 PM | PERMALINK

Old Arkansas joke: How do you get to Texas? Head west until you smell sh*t--that's Oklahoma. Turn south until you step in it--that's Texas.

Inhofe, in addition to being a global warming denier, is probably the most outspoken Christian Zionist in the Senate, which means that he takes his foreign policy from the Book of Judges. Why worry about melting icecaps when the Kingdom of God is coming soon?

Posted by: Henry on September 11, 2007 at 5:32 PM | PERMALINK

When you have to go to long lengths to convince people you're winning a war, you aren't winning. Are we going to be told that the fact that victories are taking place closer to the Fatherland shows that we're winning?

Posted by: Reality Man on September 11, 2007 at 5:48 PM | PERMALINK

Thanks again Oklahoma, for making Missouri look good.

LMAO.

Posted by: Disputo on September 11, 2007 at 6:19 PM | PERMALINK

Besides his famous views on global warming, Inhofe is the guy who said on the floor of the Senate that Israel has a right to the land "because god said so".

He also was more "outraged by the outrage" at the Abu Ghraib abuses, and opined that the real problem was the "humanitarian do-gooders".

He also said that his "most important prop" in the gay marriage debate is that his family had never had "any kind of homosexual relationship".

He is truly the most embarassing senator, and the people of Oklahoma should be ashamed of sending him to Washington.

Posted by: q-zed on September 11, 2007 at 6:20 PM | PERMALINK

The war IS a great success, for the Republican Party. Its only purpose was to exacerbate the factional tensions within the United States; it has succeeded overwhelmingly.

Posted by: Frank Wilhoit on September 11, 2007 at 6:25 PM | PERMALINK

I think he was referring to his Haliburton stock.

Posted by: Disputo on September 11, 2007 at 6:51 PM | PERMALINK

In one of the Sherlock Holmes stories, the key clue is a dog that didn't bark in the night.

Gregory (Scotland Yard detective): "Is there any other point to which you would wish to draw my attention?"
Holmes: "To the curious incident of the dog in the night-time."
Gregory: "The dog did nothing in the night-time."
Holmes: "That was the curious incident."

The dog that didn't bark in Iraq was the lack of enormous August attacks, designed to dissuade the US from continuing to fight in Iraq. Many were predicting something comparable to the Tet offensive in Vietnam. It seems likely that the surge may have already deprived our enemies of the means to mount such attacks.

It's obviously too early to say Iraq is a success story. Also, I'd like to see what Inhofe said in context. However, I won't be surprised if the surge does succeed and if Iraq's democracy manages to survive. If these two events occur, Iraq could indeed turn out to be a great success story.

Posted by: ex-liberal on September 11, 2007 at 6:59 PM | PERMALINK

The dog that didn't bark in Iraq was the lack of enormous August attacks

Remember us?

Posted by: 500 Yazidis on September 11, 2007 at 7:03 PM | PERMALINK

Dear 500 Yazidis: Yes, that attack was tragic and horrible. But, it wasn't impressive to attack a defenceless group of civilians far away from the center of Iraq and far away from any defensive troops. Horrible as it was, that attack didn't not impress the world with the power and influence of al Qaeda of Iraq and other insurgent terrorists.

It's a sad realkty that a ruthless and determined small group of people can continue to kill hundreds of innocent people, as long as someone (such as Iran or al Qaeda) continues to give them new bombs. That's way it's apt to take a decade or more to quell the violence in Iraq no matter how successful the surge and the elected government turn out to be.

Posted by: ex-liberal on September 11, 2007 at 7:14 PM | PERMALINK

"Why should I trust your opinion over the views of the four star general in charge of the War on Terrorism and Al-Qaeda in Iraq?"
Posted by: Al

You shouldn't. NOW will you go away?

Posted by: Kenji on September 11, 2007 at 7:24 PM | PERMALINK

He also said that his "most important prop" in the gay marriage debate is that his family had never had "any kind of homosexual relationship".

He is truly the most embarassing senator, and the people of Oklahoma should be ashamed of sending him to Washington.

Sure, Inhofe's worse, but what about Coburn? The normal Okies can't catch a break.

And I am very disappointed that the investigative reporters of Oklahoma didn't take Inhofe up on his near dare to find a homosexual among the generations of fabulously straight Inhofes this jackass held up as a purported bragging point.

Posted by: shortstop on September 11, 2007 at 8:46 PM | PERMALINK

Oklahoma was lost the day they opened up the western half of the former Indian Territory for settlement by white trash in 1889.

Posted by: Donald from Hawaii on September 11, 2007 at 8:50 PM | PERMALINK

Dear 500 Yazidis: Yes, that attack was tragic and horrible. But, it wasn't impressive to attack a defenceless group of civilians far away from the center of Iraq and far away from any defensive troops.

It also isn't impressive that the so-called "surge" still doesn't provide enough troops to establish order in Iraq, as evidenced by the fact that this group of civilians was, in fact, defenseless.

By you know that, "ex-liberal." You post here in bad faith, and you must have gotten a special sick thrill out of writing "I won't be surprised if the surge does succeed and if Iraq's democracy manages to survive. If these two events occur, Iraq could indeed turn out to be a great success story."

Iraq is a bloody failure, and one that belongs to the incompetent, feckless bush and slimy neocons like you. You accept that there's no honest means of defending their failure, so you work out your little psychodrama by posting insulting, obvious lies.

Why Kevin's moderator(s) tolerate your pissing on the floor in here is a mystery, but no matter what, no one mistakes you for an honest commentator.

Or a civil one, either.

Posted by: Gregory on September 12, 2007 at 8:36 AM | PERMALINK

I marvel at the fact that Inhofe can conjugate his verbs and put together cogent sentences, actually.

It really is amazing, considering his brain and critical thinking skills have been on vacation since he took office.

Did Bush send 'em to Mars?

Posted by: sara on September 12, 2007 at 10:09 AM | PERMALINK
....it's apt to take a decade or more to quell the violence in Iraq no matter how successful the surge and the elected government turn out to be.ex-lax at 7:14 PM
Please provide evidence that Iran or anyone else is providing bombs in excess of those that Rumsfeld left unguarded in Iraq and please explain why the US is not providing security as required by the Rules of Occupation .

Your indifference and disdain for the humanitarian crisis Bush has caused Iraqis is disgusting.

Posted by: Mike on September 12, 2007 at 12:56 PM | PERMALINK

"Lord please shine a light of hope
on those of us who fall behind."

The people of Oklahoma had the sense the elevate their native son Mr. Garth Brooks to stardom.

They have a long way to go in selecting senators.

Posted by: Linus on September 12, 2007 at 9:20 PM | PERMALINK

The funny thing is, this guy makes Tom Coburn look smart by comparison.

Posted by: Tom on September 17, 2007 at 5:17 PM | PERMALINK
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