The religious right will love him even more now, bless their Christian little hearts.

Well...Obama could mispeak also and refer to Mitt as "George W. Romney"...of course, meaning Mitt's dad!

The crazy thing is that is started to say "Osama," and then backtracked to say "Barack Obama." If it was supposed to be some kind of Rush Limbaugh-type "joke," he totally butchered it.

So either he's being coached to conflate Osama and Obama, or he's being coached by morons who don't know anything about either humor or public speaking, or both. My money's on both.

This has been going on with the right wing for the better part of a year. There is evidently no depth to which they won't sink.

Unnoticed is how the right has shot their wad on Hillary. There are no attacks from now which she is not immune. There is already evidence of "Clinton book fatigue" (it was written about yesterday); the right has been attacking her so long, 15 years now, it no longer matters. It's not been noticed yet.

As "accidental" as Dick Armey's "Barney Fag." When you routinely use a slur w/ your in-crowd, it's hard not to slip up when the cameras are rolling.

They have to go with what they've got. Even these repubs can't just come out and say "look -- he's not white!" but they can dance around the edges and conflate him with real Scary Brown Men.

I'm with mmy. Mutt Rommel is a bad student of even worse coaches.

I can completely believe that Mutt Rummie misspoke. Happens all the time.

The crazy thing is that is started to say "Osama," and then backtracked to say "Barack Obama." If it was supposed to be some kind of Rush Limbaugh-type "joke," he totally butchered it.

So either he's being coached to conflate Osama and Obama, or he's being coached by morons who don't know anything about either humor or public speaking, or both. My money's on both. Posted by: mmy

As if the faithful know or care.

Let's pretend that confusing Osama and Obama's names is not one of the primary faux pas to avoid. It was done on purpose.

Why would Romney make a cheap attack on Barack Obama, when Hillary has the nomination wrapped up?

The misstatement makes Romney look bad. If he did it on purpose, he'd look even worse to me, and I support the guy. In short, it would have been stupid for Romney do make this mistake intentionally. Whatever failings Romney has, nobody thinks he's stupid.

Anagrams for Mitt Romney:

Not My Merit

It My Mentor

Memory Tint

He didn't misspeak, he did this on purpose at the behest of AIPAC so as to keep potential voters away from Obama. This gives HRC a clear path to the Democratic nomination. Which is what AIPAC wants.

So he makes mistakes just like the rest of us common folks, eh? If I chose to vote based on which guy I'd rather have a beer with --

(something about '...doomed to repeat it", something, something...)

Recently, someone discovered that it's futile to deny a specious allegation if you have to repeat it. Only use positive words, like "Barak is a committed Christian raised in Hawaii and living in Chicago". Somehow, Barak from Hawaii sounds good, just as Chicago sounds midwestern.

Republicans will be saying "Osama Hussein from Indonesia" as long as they can.

WSP nails it. I've been around these types of yahoos, and they do indeed regularly refer to Obama as Osama.

Muslims like plural marriage.
So do Mormons.

Who's the Islamofascist, Mitt?

I'm still waiting to hear what became of those golden tablets...

And why anyone thinks that a guy who scammed ten of millions from hedge funds is a good idea in any case.

'Income inequality in the US today has reached extremes not seen since the 1920s, but the trend started three decades earlier. More than $1 trillion a year in relative income is now being shifted annually from roughly 90,000,000 middle and working class families to the wealthiest households and corporations via corporate profits earned from low-wage workers overseas. '
Super Capitalism, Super Imperialism and Monetary Imperialism
Henry C.K. Liu
http://www.henryckliu.com/page143.html

. . . and I support the guy.

You really are a moron, aren't you?

Whatever failings Romney has, nobody thinks he's stupid. Posted by: ex-liberal

Actually, most people think he's pretty stupid, except a portion of the wingnut population who, if possible, are even less intelligent than Romney.

The good news is that Mittens has now opened the door for questions about his magic underwear...

Whatever failings Romney has, nobody thinks he's stupid.

But apparently you think we are, if you're telling us with a straight face that Romney's slur makes Romney "look bad" in your eyes.

The man's name does sound remarkably like the most notorious terrorist mastermind of our generation. And whether or not Mitt misspoke on purpose, presidential elections are as much about popularity contests as they are issues. Obviously, most readers on this blog will fall into (hopefully) the latter category. But the fact remains that some people will not vote for Obama merely because of his first name. And as crazy as that sounds, is it any crazier than women pulling the lever for JFK because he was handosme?

One man = one vote.

is it any crazier than women pulling the lever for JFK because he was handosme?

Debatable. But more importantly, is there any data -- keeping in mind, of course, that the plural of "anecdote" is not "data" -- to suggest that women so voted?

Yes, shortstop, if Romney can't say what he means, that's bad. If he uses playground taunts that's much worse. Incidentally, Ted Kennedy also accidentally called Obama "Osama". Rush Limbaugh plays the tape from time to time.

JeffII, Romney has has both a law degree and an MBA from Harvard. He rescued the 2002 Salt Lake City Winter Games, which had been tarnished by scandal (according to the New York Times!) He earned millions of dollars as a consultant. He was an effective governor of Mass. He successfully enacted a comprehensive health care plan there. Whatever one may think of his politics or his religion, he's clearly intelligent and he's has been a most effective executive.

And as crazy as that sounds, is it any crazier than women pulling the lever for JFK because he was handosme?

Or that men pulled their levers for George W. Bush because they wanted to have a beer with a compassionate conservative?

Yes, shortstop, if Romney can't say what he means, that's bad

And when we see evidence that he can't, come back to us and we'll talk.

Who else has an MBA from Harvard...I can't...it's on the tip of my tongue...

I thought you were supporting Julie-Annie, though, ex-lib? Doesn't he have the bloodiest, growliest, shoot-first-and-ask-questions-lateriest, most "Moslem" squelchiest foreign policy for you?

I love the part where chicken hawk Romney wants to double the number of prisoners at Gitmo. And he's pro-torture. What a guy. I'm so glad he's highly educated.

Rush Limbaugh plays the tape from time to time.

The fact that you would know this means that I really can ignore everything you post from now on.

Like I told the officer, who only asked the question because he was trying to set up decent people in a sting op, I did not campaign for George W. Bush because he's handsome.

Dick Cheney, fuck, yeah.

ex-lib: He was an effective governor of Mass

Geez, I live in Mass. and I didn't even notice that I was being effectively governed.

The fact that you would know this means that I really can ignore everything you post from now on.

LOL, monsieur le craigie--you were an eager ex-liberal reader before?!

Rush Limbaugh plays the tape from time to time.

How do you know?

Do you get paid to spew GOP talking points? How much? I suppose it could be nice retirement job - indoors, no heavy lifting, regular hours, but how can you stand to live with yourself? Is your mind so twisted you think of it as some kind of community service?

To be fair, ex-liberal also apparently spends hours a day writing letters to the New York Times.

Cue outrage from the left and Democrats in Congress calling for Romney's head.

There isn't any? Whaaa?

Oh, he just "misspoke." Because "Barack" and "bin Laden" sound so much alike. Well, all right then.

Wusses.

The ReThuglican'ts are laughing all the way to White House. Again.

Why not, you get a twofer...you work the terrorist angle and throw the African American meme...those people aren't like us ect...on the surface purely innocent.

Religous conservatives...they are an interesting lot...they conserve their hate for other to the "Jesus approved list". There you have it! NEXT!

"But the fact remains that some people will not vote for Obama merely because of his first name."

Barack?

Yeah, it's unusual, but a deal-breaker for a voter? What idiocy.

The fact that you would know this means that I really can ignore everything you post from now on.

"ex-liberal"'s entire history of bad-faith posting makes him worthy of contemptuous dismissal. He seems to have toned down his psychodrama of posting the most obviosly insulting neocon les he could think of, but while it's kind of cute that "ex-liberal" seems to be pretending to be an honest commwentator, he fools no one, and worse, he's even more boring with his mealy-mouthed mushy conservatism than when he's spewing firey, bloodthirsty neocon bullshit.

Whether he's paid or not, though, "ex-liberal" is certainly on a mission -- to spread the Dolchstosslegende and deflect the blame for the disaster in Iraq from Bush and the neocons to the Democrats. And he keeps right on doing it, even when every chorographed step of his performance -- such as touting the "progress" predicatbly claimed by Petraeus in the makrked absence of success in meeting most of the benchmarks -- has been noted.

That's a hello of a project you're on, there, "ex-liberal." Shame on you, you disgusting neocon toad.

ex-liberal also apparently spends hours a day writing letters to the New York Times.

Vociferously endorsing Bush's policy of torture, at that. And signing his name to it. Unfathomably shameless.

LOL, monsieur le craigie--you were an eager ex-liberal reader before?!

Never eager, no. But willing.

Kinda like "oh, all right, let's see what the voice of faux-reason has to say." It always turns out badly though. And now I understand why! They really wouldn't know what to "think" if Rush didn't tell them, eh?

Bullshit he misspoke! He got Osam out of his fetid maw before backing up and saying "Barack Obama" - I called 'Bullshit" and dug up a photo from warmer weather...

Bullshit he misspoke! He got Osam out of his fetid maw before backing up and saying "Barack Obama" - I called 'Bullshit" and dug up a photo from warmer weather... Posted by: Blue Girl, Red State (aka G.C.)

Excellent!

Thank you. I am on a mission, too. :)

Kinda like "oh, all right, let's see what the voice of faux-reason has to say." It always turns out badly though. And now I understand why! They really wouldn't know what to "think" if Rush didn't tell them, eh?

Hey, if Kevin's faux-reasonable authoritarian Bush Cultist commentators -- honest conservatives don't post here any more, no matter what illusions Kevin might hold about his commentariat -- couldn't post embarrassingly dishonest straw man arguments and GOP talking points, they couldn't post here at all!

Oh, wait...

(Cue Bush Cultist whining about the "echo chamber" -- irony-free, despite the origins of their talking points as Limbaugh sputum or the GOP blast-fax -- in 3...2...)

craigie: The fact that you would [listen to Rush Limbaugh] means that I really can ignore everything you post from now on.

In the 1964 Republican National Convention, the Goldwater team instructed their delegates to read no local newspaper other than the Oakland Tribune, which was conservative at that time. I was a liberal UC Berkeley student. I laughed when famed SF Chronicle columnist Herb Caen mocked the conservatives for their censorship.

Today, it's more often liberals who believe in censorship. The fact that I get information from both conservatative and liberal sources makes me persona non grata to liberals like craigie.

Today, it's more often liberals who believe in censorship. The fact that I get information from both conservatative and liberal sources makes me persona non grata to liberals like craigie.
Posted by: ex-liberal

No. The fact that you're a GOP asshole makes you annoying. As you have yet to stoop as low as some of the most egregious trolls, you haven't been banned, which would, technically, make you persona non grata, dumb shit.

Can't you get anything straight?

Today, it's more often liberals who believe in censorship. The fact that I get information from both conservatative and liberal sources makes me persona non grata to liberals like craigie.

And you're still a straw-man-building imbecile.

The fact that I get information from both conservatative and liberal sources makes me persona non grata to liberals like craigie.

Ah, now there's the kind of dishonest comment we've come to expect from "ex-liberal"! Was the pretense of commenting in good faith too much for you to maintain in defending the indefensible? Or was it just the realization that you weren't fooling anyone?

Anyway, you're back to your regular bad-faith form, "ex-liberal." Shame on you.

Two words: “Elsie Fag.”

In 1995, then-House Majority Leader Dick Armey (R-TX) referred to Rep Barney Frank (D-MA) as “Barney Fag” in a press interview. Armey apologized and claimed it was “a slip of the tongue.” Barney Frank replied, “My mother says that in 59 years since being married to my father, no one had ever called her Elsie Fag.”

Is ex-liberal the old poster 'tbrosz' under another name? Sure sounds like it. What ever did happen to the old broz? He just disappeared one day.

They really wouldn't know what to "think" if Rush didn't tell them, eh?" Posted by: craigie on October 23, 2007 at 4:00 PM

Rush Lintball is one of the GOP's best assets really.

He is the biggest contributor to the venomus talking oinks of the Bush herd, and is the biggest airwaves polluter since radio was invented. The United States has a rather unique internal WMD: Rush Limbaugh - Weapon of Mouth Destruction, set to go off INSIDE this country every day, tune to a radio near you.

I don't suppose it matters what the right are attempting to do to Obama. After this latest gaffe, he's managed to turn most of the gay and lesbian community over to Hillary, not that she's any bargain. While that doesn't guarantee her the nomination, he's not in a position to alienate an entire bloc of votes if he hopes to win.

And to be honest, something always made me feel a little queasy about him, and now I know why. Just another asshole opportunist ready to toss the gays under the bus. I wouldn't vote for him for dogcatcher now.

persona non grata to liberals like craigie."
Posted by: ex-liberal on October 23, 2007 at 4:42 PM

What's persona au gratin? Can you put cheese on it? What kind of wine would go with that?

And to be honest, something always made me feel a little queasy about him, and now I know why. Just another asshole opportunist ready to toss the gays under the bus. I wouldn't vote for him for dogcatcher now.

I'm slightly confused about that whole incident. There doesn't seem to be any way he could've brought McClurkin on board without knowing this guy's hideous history. I viewed it as a calculated wink-wink to those portions of the African American churchgoing community that are homophobic.

And yet his statement denouncing McClurkin's views and divorcing himself from them is pretty straight up (forgive me). He doesn't equivocate or make excuses for McClurkin at all.

Nor has he kicked McClurkin off the tour, however.

I'm not trying to make excuses for Obama, jrichva. I'm just trying to figure out what the deal is here.

What's persona au gratin? Can you put cheese on it? What kind of wine would go with that? Posted by: Zit redux

That would be whine.

In ex-liberal's case, that would be a persona so gratin'.

After this latest gaffe, he's managed to turn most of the gay and lesbian community over to Hillary

Perhaps he loses that bloc (how much of it did he have, to start with?) but who says that when they leave they go from him to Hillary?

If he uses playground taunts that's much worse.

Like "Bring it On"?

What I have to wonder is "What was John Kerry thinking?" when he selected Barack Hussein "Osama" Obama to give the convention speech in 2004. I mean, how politically tone-deaf can a person be? Was Kerry planning to sabotage the Democratic party?

Gimme better Democrats!

Romney would fuck a dog on national TV if he thought it would help his campaign.

Only if the dog was tied to the roof of his car....

He's got principles, after-all.

The fact that I get information from both conservatative and liberal sources makes me persona non grata to liberals like craigie.

Don't be silly. And by the way, there are no liberals like Craigie.

Why all this fuss about what Mitt Mormon....excuse me, I misspoke, about what Mitt Romney said?

Is ex-liberal the old poster 'tbrosz' under another name? Sure sounds like it. What ever did happen to the old broz? He just disappeared one day.

Haven't you heard? Apparently everybody here is tbroz.

In the hogpile on ex-liberal, the point about Ted Kennedy's blooper was gently shoved aside. Of course, Ted Kennedy's brain is in smoking ruins. Not sure what Romney's excuse is.

A related item here.

Is ex-liberal the old poster 'tbrosz' under another name? Sure sounds like it. What ever did happen to the old broz? He just disappeared one day.

Haven't you heard? Apparently everybody here is tbroz.

LOL. I've seen better-executed fishing expeditions in the Serengeti.

LOL. I've seen better-executed fishing expeditions in the Serengeti.

I think I caught me a capybara there once!

Capybara live in South America and are not fish, but guinea pigs on steroids. You can fish for Nile Perch near the Serengeti in Lake Victoria. They be BIG mothers.

Sorry Tom, that was an inside joke meant for shortstop. But thanks for the tip!

note to JR relative to his above
post at 4:51 p.m.:

i remember also liking that barney
frank line at the time-----many thanks
for your recalling it for all of us at
this time.

Extremely doubtful that Romney mis-spoke. He is way too programmed.
Campaign trail political writer Matt Taibbi floored me with this observation:
"...you can almost see the Terminator display screen behind his eyes, calibrating to the hundredth of a centimeter the exact distance to his questioner, and quickly selecting from a prefab list of responses..."

I suspect this recent "gaff" was part of Romney's "shtick"...intended to disparage Barack.

Bwa!

cmdicely--

According to a poll taken immediately after the most recent Democratic debate, Obama was registering 45% of the gay and lesbian respondents. Hillary was down somewhere in the teens. I'm sure I can guess what the results of that poll would be if taken today.

"Romney has law degree and a MBA from Harvard"

Hmmm - Al the Gonzo has a law degree from Harvard - Shrub has a MBA from Harvard - FAUXlib was a "liberal" at Cal Berkeley.

My, oh my, how the mighty bastions of learning have fallen into disgrace.

Perhaps we need someone from Slippery Rock?

First, a cheap retort: How about referring to him 'accidentally' as Mittler?

Second, as an obvious political smear, does this sort of tactic really work with anyone beyond the redmeat wingnuts?

I think there are clearly some voters who are not well informed, who are 'independent' and who can be swayed with lies and innuendo. Just look at the numbers of Americans who thought Iraq had something to do with the Sept. 11 attacks.

This one instance won't influence anyone, but as part of an overall tactic to associate Barack with al Qaeda, it can and probably will.

This is the sort strategy we've seen too often from Republicans, as folks have noted here. Dems don't really engage in this, but . . . should they? The danger is if there is longterm effects for such tactics, but I don't think there is given how long Republicans have been making it a standard part of their campaigns.

The fact that you would know this means that I really can ignore everything you post from now on.

Way ahead of you, Craigie - way ahead of you!

Isn't such a religious person like him afraid he'll go to hell for being so evil?

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