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October 30, 2007
By: Kevin Drum

SCARED....More "scheduling difficulties" from the Republican presidential field. These guys sure are spooked at the prospect of taking questions from non-straight-non-white folks, aren't they?

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No. They aren't scared. They don't give a crap about black or brown people or LGBT issues (they've had scheduling difficulties around debates sponsored by these groups). And they know that no one is going to make a big deal (or otherwise hold them accountable) about it either, so why go through the tired exercise of PRETENDING they care?

Posted by: Keith on October 30, 2007 at 5:29 PM | PERMALINK

They are Strict Constructionalists -- only white males should be allowed to vote!

Posted by: Gore/Edwards 08 on October 30, 2007 at 5:29 PM | PERMALINK

if Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney, Fred Thompson, and John McCain can’t withstand questions from the Congressional Black Caucus, how can they be trusted to stand up to terrorists?

Well, they figure they can't just say they're gonna bomb the Congressional Black Caucus. Besides, them colored folks is scary. Especially if you're in the same room with them.

Posted by: thersites on October 30, 2007 at 5:31 PM | PERMALINK

How can they defend us from al qaeda when they can't even defend themselves from normal americans?

Posted by: eightnine2718281828mu5 on October 30, 2007 at 5:43 PM | PERMALINK

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Posted by: mhr on October 30, 2007 at 5:44 PM | PERMALINK

yikes. can you give mhr a negative number of stars?

Posted by: thersites on October 30, 2007 at 5:47 PM | PERMALINK

After seven years of King Chimpy, these losers look with undisguised contempt at the whole notion that they should be, you know, answerable to the country at large, not merely the 'haves' and the 'have mores'.

They are all just disgusting.

Posted by: jprichva on October 30, 2007 at 5:48 PM | PERMALINK

Well I suspect that the GOP wouldn't even agree to a debate with INKBLOT. After all, Inkblot is multi-colored, is asexual/transgender (I presume he has been fixed) and most likely is also an illegal alien since he probably doesn't have a US birth certificate or nationalization papers or even a passport.

Then again, the GOP might refuse to debate INKBLOT since it would appear obvious they would lose the battle, even if they kept expectations low going into the event.

INKBLOT FOR PRESIDENT

Posted by: optical weenie on October 30, 2007 at 5:58 PM | PERMALINK

And while the Republicans try not to have to answer those "hard" questions from the pillow media, the liberals get some feed-back about their public debates.

"It feels like the 300th time presidential candidates have stood on a stage to deliver their 30-second talking points, writes Vaughn Ververs." CBS News.

Posted by: Zit on October 30, 2007 at 6:03 PM | PERMALINK

meantime, back at the chicken farm:

Ralph Nader Sues Democratic Party
Consumer Advocate And Former Presidential Candidate Ralph Nader Sues Democratic Party
WASHINGTON, Oct. 30, 2007 CBS News.

His reason?
"The Democratic Party is going after anyone who presents a credible challenge to their monopoly over their perceived voters," Nader said in a statement. "This lawsuit was filed to help advance a free and open electoral process for all candidates and voters."

And here I was thinking that it was the GOP interfering with elections and firing those who wouldn't play along...

Not sure why does this tick me off so bad?

Posted by: Red Angry Zit on October 30, 2007 at 6:11 PM | PERMALINK

Why waste time on hardened Dem voters?

Posted by: Luther on October 30, 2007 at 6:14 PM | PERMALINK

INKBLOT FOR PRESIDENT" Posted by: optical weenie on October 30, 2007 at 5:58 PM

Would he be on the take, you know, for sharing some of the cronie perks, like no-bid cat food contracts, free trips to Mickey Mouse land, a private litter box?

Posted by: Inkblot "08 on October 30, 2007 at 6:15 PM | PERMALINK
These guys sure are spooked at the prospect of taking questions from non-straight-non-white folks, aren't they?

Certainly that seems to be true for other reasons, but I'm not so sure that this is an indication; I don't know about the Congressional Black Caucus Institute, specifically, but the Congressional Black Caucus itself has always been an extremely partisan Democratic outfit.

I can certainly see Republicans shunning it for the exact same reasons as Democrats would shun Fox News. (And, indeed, both the Democrats and Republicans skipped the forums that the CBC Institute and Fox News together were hosting, the Democrats because of Fox's involvement, the Republicans presumably because of the CBC Institute's involvement.)

The difference is that the Democrats came out and said they weren't going because of Fox, but in a sense it was easier for them to do so since Fox is much better known as a political mouthpiece for one side of the spectrum.

Posted by: cmdicely on October 30, 2007 at 6:24 PM | PERMALINK

Why waste time on hardened Dem voters?
Posted by: Luther

You forgot to finish the question: Why waste time on hardened Dem voters who are Negroes?

Not quite the same question as why Democratic candidates wouldn't speak at a Klan rally (or why the VP would patronize a "hunting" club that flies the Stars and Bars)?, but you get the drift.

Posted by: JeffII on October 30, 2007 at 6:25 PM | PERMALINK

After 8 years of Bush you had better be scared with what few qptions we have out of the Democratic side, promising change if elected to office, I have not seen any changes have you all? Plus the Democrats are fixing to hand more money over to Bush for his war in Iraq, how fucking stupid can one party be, promising change and all the while kissing Bushs azz. Democrats need to start growing some balls are their victory will be short lived.

Posted by: Al on October 30, 2007 at 6:44 PM | PERMALINK

INKBLOT FOR PRESIDENT" Posted by: optical weenie on October 30, 2007 at 5:58 PM

Would he be on the take, you know, for sharing some of the cronie perks, like no-bid cat food contracts, free trips to Mickey Mouse land, a private litter box?

Posted by: Inkblot "08 on October 30, 2007 at 6:15 PM

Will Inkblot take cronie perks? I dunno. I guess Kevin would have to answer than since he knows Inkblot better than me. But based on my observations of his weekly catblot behavior I don't think so ..........he appears to be a very fine upstanding cat.

Course I don't know of any cat that wouldn't prefer their very own litter box - this prevents them perverting and adopting a wide stance and tapping their paws in a certain fashion.

Posted by: optical weenie on October 30, 2007 at 6:48 PM | PERMALINK

Appearing to shun minorities might actually be considered a benefit (at least much more so than the prospect of espousing GOP dogma to antithetical audiences).

Krugman:

And yes, Southern white exceptionalism is about race, much more than it is about moral values, religion, support for the military or other explanations sometimes offered. There's a large statistical literature on the subject, whose conclusion is summed up by the political scientist Thomas F. Schaller in his book ''Whistling Past Dixie'': ''Despite the best efforts of Republican spinmeisters to depict American conservatism as a nonracial phenomenon, the partisan impact of racial attitudes in the South is stronger today than in the past.''
Republican politicians, who understand quite well that the G.O.P.'s national success since the 1970s owes everything to the partisan switch of Southern whites, have tacitly acknowledged this reality. Since the days of Gerald Ford, just about every Republican presidential campaign has included some symbolic gesture of approval for good old-fashioned racism.

Posted by: jhm on October 30, 2007 at 6:48 PM | PERMALINK

For more background on the GOP presidential field shunning African-American and Hispanic audiences, see:
"GOP Frontrunners Snub PBS/Smiley Debate at Morgan State."

Posted by: Furious on October 30, 2007 at 6:55 PM | PERMALINK

Well, the Obama campaign should invite Rudy to his campaign events so that the Democrats can listen to the other side.

Posted by: gregor on October 30, 2007 at 7:20 PM | PERMALINK

Please, people! It's obvious that their balls are the size of sweet peas! They're wimps, pure and simple, just like every other conservative out there...

Posted by: elmo on October 30, 2007 at 8:44 PM | PERMALINK

This Charlie Rose episode that discussed this the other night was especially good:
http://www.charlierose.com/shows/2007/10/24/1/a-conversation-with-tavis-smiley-cornel-west

Posted by: Doc at the Radar Station on October 31, 2007 at 1:19 AM | PERMALINK

Why bother with non-white people? The mormons have promised to make more white babies in exchange for the GOP electing Mitt. All the Repubs have to do is play the waiting game. In 18 years BAM! GOP takeover.

Just you wait...

Posted by: Tom Stewart on October 31, 2007 at 3:46 AM | PERMALINK

The mormons have promised to make more white babies in exchange for the GOP electing Mitt. Posted by: Tom Stewart

That's probably the only way they can do, though they're already a pretty fertile bunch - the new Catholics. Mormonism is stagnant in the U.S. (Mormons are no longer the majority even in Utah), and it's pretty much a non-starter in the rest of the world, millions of "missions" notwithstanding.

Posted by: JeffII on October 31, 2007 at 11:22 AM | PERMALINK

The phrase over sight is to Bush, is like the phrase Work was to Dobie Gillis.

Posted by: Al on October 31, 2007 at 12:24 PM | PERMALINK

The phrase over sight is to Bush, is like the phrase Work was to Dobie Gillis.

Close...Right show, wrong character. You are thinking of Maynard G. Krebs.

Posted by: Blue Girl, Red State (aka G.C.) on October 31, 2007 at 12:36 PM | PERMALINK




 

 

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