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November 6, 2007
By: Kevin Drum

SCHADENFREUDE ALERT....The New York Times reports today that a group of conservative authors, including Swift Boat nutball Jerome Corsi, is suing right-wing darling Regnery Publishing. The lead plaintiff is Richard Miniter, author of Shadow War: The Untold Story of How Bush Is Winning the War on Terror, who apparently got his hands on a royalty statement he wasn't supposed to see:

"It suddenly occurred to us that Regnery is making collectively jillions of dollars off of us and paying us a pittance." He added: "Why is Regnery acting like a Marxist cartoon of a capitalist company?"

....The authors, who say in the lawsuit that [Regnery's parent company] has been "unjustly enriched well in excess of one million dollars," are seeking unspecified damages. But Mr. Miniter said, "We're not looking for a payoff; we're looking for justice."

Well, we're all looking for justice, aren't we? But if a conservative is a liberal who's been mugged, what do you call a conservative who's come face to face with the naked face of vertically integrated capitalism?

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Join a union, Mr. Miniter. Heh.

Posted by: dr sardonicus on November 6, 2007 at 8:38 PM | PERMALINK

Dubious litigation over contract rights is the very essence of 21st Century capitalism in America . . .

Posted by: rea on November 6, 2007 at 8:40 PM | PERMALINK

But Regnery is only paying its authors what the market prescribes! I hope Mr. Miniter isn't arguing that his own labors are adding the same value that the Regnery CEO's job does. If Mr. Miniter doesn't like it, he can start his own publishing company...

...okay, I can't even do that without barfing.

Posted by: shortstop on November 6, 2007 at 8:44 PM | PERMALINK

The jokes sort of write themselves, don't they?

Posted by: Kevin Drum on November 6, 2007 at 8:52 PM | PERMALINK

The jokes sort of write themselves, don't they?

So why pay writers;>

Posted by: Martin on November 6, 2007 at 8:57 PM | PERMALINK

Feh! More frivolous lawsuits.

Tort reform anyone?

Posted by: Gozer on November 6, 2007 at 8:58 PM | PERMALINK

"Why is Regnery acting like a Marxist cartoon of a capitalist company?

A-ha! The whole thing is a Marxist conspiracy!

Capitalism cannot fail; only we can fail capitalism.

Posted by: DrBB on November 6, 2007 at 9:00 PM | PERMALINK

what do you call a conservative who's come face to face with the naked face of vertically integrated capitalism?

An itchy ********.

Next question.

Posted by: Jeffrey Davis on November 6, 2007 at 9:06 PM | PERMALINK

Ha! The lawsuit is based on the notion that their books would sell in numbers at retail. Someone should tell them. . .

Posted by: Will Divide on November 6, 2007 at 9:12 PM | PERMALINK

Ah-ha-ha-ha! AH-HA-HA-HA!


Couldn't happened to a nicer guy.

Posted by: Dr. Morpheus on November 6, 2007 at 9:15 PM | PERMALINK

Oh, really. This is too rich. Boo hoo, Jerome Corsi. Of course, I harbor serious doubts whether he even actually wrote the Swift Boat book. I have the affidavits of at least 300 people who swear that he abandoned the book-writing early and left it to others to finish the writing. Many others are prepared to testify that Corsi is, in fact, completely illiterate and could not have written the book.

Posted by: jprichva on November 6, 2007 at 9:29 PM | PERMALINK

'these disgruntled authors'..

hahahahaha. this is so perfect.

Posted by: linda on November 6, 2007 at 9:32 PM | PERMALINK

Just more losers expecting a handout for doing nothing. They didn't buy the ink, or the paper, invest in the presses, etc.

Why didn't they publish their own books themselves? Because they're failures in the marketplace. They have nothing to offer. Regency publishing can probably get better conservative writing from workers overseas. They should look into that. How hard is it to write that crap? Any Chinese prisoner can write that garbage and they won't bitch whine and complain about it either.

Posted by: MillionthMonkey on November 6, 2007 at 9:32 PM | PERMALINK

Wait till the Jonah Lucianne's book breaks all the records for any publication in history.

Posted by: gregor on November 6, 2007 at 9:35 PM | PERMALINK

Kevin, to answer your question, the definition of a liberal is a conservative under investigation.

Posted by: MaxGowan on November 6, 2007 at 9:36 PM | PERMALINK

Well, once again, you idiots miss the point.

The fact of the matter is, Americans are so hungry for the conservative thought and conservative ideas, they will pay top dollar for them. Regenery may have been wrong to stiff people, but the fact remains--they were able to stiff them for around a million dollars.

That's a million dollars spent on conservative books. Suck eggs, liberals. How's that book Alan Colmes wrote doing?

Posted by: Norman Rogers on November 6, 2007 at 9:38 PM | PERMALINK

Tort "reform" indeed. Calling John Edwards.

Posted by: larry birnbaum on November 6, 2007 at 9:40 PM | PERMALINK

Norman,
Your entirely unfounded hauteur is only matched by your inanity. But God bless ya, with the Hollywood writers' strike, we need something to keep us laughing.
Jackass.

Posted by: jprichva on November 6, 2007 at 9:44 PM | PERMALINK

Alan Colmes? Isn't he the straw man on FOX News? Why would I buy a book like that? I'm glad to hear it's tanking.

If he wants people to buy his book he should disassociate himself from FOX and write something that won't bring money to a fascist propaganda network.

Posted by: MillionthMonkey on November 6, 2007 at 9:46 PM | PERMALINK

Nothing Colmes could do will induce people to buy his book. He might as well stay at FOX making an ass of himself, because he's damaged goods forever now.

Posted by: shortstop on November 6, 2007 at 9:49 PM | PERMALINK

How's that book Alan Colmes wrote doing?

spoken like only a true foxman can speak.
hahahahaha.


Posted by: linda on November 6, 2007 at 9:57 PM | PERMALINK

Sounds like a run of the mill contract dispute, which doesn't really comprise anything ironic. What's your point, Kevin? That people you disagree with have contract disputes? Heaven forbid!

Posted by: Will Allen on November 6, 2007 at 10:01 PM | PERMALINK

Norman wrote:

'The fact of the matter is, Americans are so hungry for the conservative thought and conservative ideas, they will pay top dollar for them.'

Really. From the story:

"The authors also say in the lawsuit that Regnery donates [emphasis added] books to nonprofit groups affiliated with Eagle Publishing and gives the books as incentives to subscribers to newsletters published by Eagle. The authors say they do not receive royalties for these books.

“You get 10 per cent of nothing because they basically give them away, [emphasis added]” Mr. Patterson said in an interview."

i.e. Regnery gives 'em away, and the authors are peeved 'cos other publishers, not surprisingly, don't include Regnery's giveways as actual sales. So they sue Regnery.

Time for tort reform!

Posted by: Sock Puppet of the Great Satan on November 6, 2007 at 10:07 PM | PERMALINK

will, you're not going to pretend that you don't know the meaning of "schadenfreude," are you? kevin's point is quite clear: regnery is a propaganda house that publishes bullshit.

and not only does it publish bullshit, it takes its true-believer authors for a ride!

what's not to enjoy? in exactly what way is this run of the mill? where are your multiple examples of the exact same thing happening elsewhere, to other writers? we long to be educated....

Posted by: howard on November 6, 2007 at 10:12 PM | PERMALINK

I still say Regnery Publishing should have these books written in Bangalore or China. Compared to American conservatives, prisoners in China are more likely to be better informed on domestic American politics, but even so, they will write whatever conservative crap they're told and they will work for cheap.

Exactly what do Corsi et al have to offer?

Posted by: MillionthMonkey on November 6, 2007 at 10:15 PM | PERMALINK

I always knew those FAR right-wing NEO-nuts were COMMUNISTS!!!

(sorry, I couldn't resist)

Posted by: elmo on November 6, 2007 at 10:16 PM | PERMALINK

What do you call a conservative who's come face to face with the naked face of vertically integrated capitalism?

Um, Norman.

Posted by: Ripley on November 6, 2007 at 10:22 PM | PERMALINK

Norman, when's your book coming out?

Posted by: thersites on November 6, 2007 at 10:23 PM | PERMALINK

I actually worked for a company in the nineties that did some (non-political) work with Regnery. Perhaps I was prejudiced, but boy, you could hear the hauteur over the phone.

Posted by: Bob on November 6, 2007 at 10:26 PM | PERMALINK

Don't you worry, thersites. Before he writes a word, Norman will have that contract locked up tighter than a chastity belt on a Purity Ball attendee. The man knows how to get in and out of contracts, after having lost so many houses to so many ex-wives and all.

Posted by: shortstop on November 6, 2007 at 10:28 PM | PERMALINK

There is an interesting legal question: Is Regnery contractually obliged to charge some sort of fair market price when its gives books away to a sister company or makes them available to a sister book club?

The filing of the suit now makes other authors aware of Regnary's practices, so they can negotiate their contracts accordingly.

Posted by: ex-liberal on November 6, 2007 at 10:29 PM | PERMALINK

Before he writes a word, Norman will have that contract locked up

I hope we don't have to wait too long.

Posted by: thersites on November 6, 2007 at 10:32 PM | PERMALINK

To quote Henry Kissinger (speaking on the Iran-Iraq war), “the only problem is deciding which side you want to lose.”

Posted by: fafner1 on November 6, 2007 at 10:34 PM | PERMALINK

Publishers have been ripping off authors since the invention of moveable type. Recording companies have long found ways to deduct all expenses from the artists they promote, the movie industry created the concept of "creative accounting." Any industry whichs its creaters a percentage of sales will be dishonest. You would think that conservatives with their dismal view of humanity would have understood that for the git-go,

Posted by: beb on November 6, 2007 at 10:37 PM | PERMALINK

:-)

Posted by: John Emerson on November 6, 2007 at 10:45 PM | PERMALINK

I can't get that old county term "high cotton" out of my head?

Posted by: elmo on November 6, 2007 at 10:46 PM | PERMALINK

They call a private entity that they feel is making too much money "Marxist"? Holy up-is-down-ism, Batman!

Posted by: sherifffruitfly on November 6, 2007 at 10:47 PM | PERMALINK

Hey, where are Al, American Hawk and tbrosz?

Posted by: Riesz Fischer on November 6, 2007 at 10:47 PM | PERMALINK

The real fun is going to start when Regnery proves in open court that they couldn't have sold those books for market price 'cause there's only so many Normans dumb enough to pay for that stuff. I can't wait. I hope they'll have that trial on Court TV...

Posted by: christian h. on November 6, 2007 at 10:49 PM | PERMALINK

“You get 10 per cent of nothing because they basically give them away...”

Aw, lament of the remaindered. Just wait 'til Regnery comes back with proof nobody was buyin' at full price.

Posted by: Tilli (Mojave Desert) on November 6, 2007 at 10:54 PM | PERMALINK

Heh.

Posted by: phleabo on November 6, 2007 at 10:55 PM | PERMALINK

Norman, my brother, the point is, see, nobody actually *buys* these books. Which, I must add, is a heartening thought.

Posted by: asdf on November 6, 2007 at 10:57 PM | PERMALINK

Unsurprising really. Conservative authors without a basic understanding of how the book market works. The whole thing is a scheme mind you... a scheme to rig book sales to get on the New York Times Bestseller list to generate "real" book sales.

Shoulda read that "best efforts" in marketing clause before you signed the contract jackass.

Posted by: toady on November 6, 2007 at 11:00 PM | PERMALINK

So, unfettered capitalism is a Marxist conspiracy....

LMAO!

Thx for this, Kev. You made my day. I can now sleep peacefully.

Posted by: Disputo on November 6, 2007 at 11:02 PM | PERMALINK

"what do you call a conservative who's come face to face with the naked face of vertically integrated capitalism?"

I call him a conservative who calls his lawyer and afterwards maybe talks a little bit less about tort reform.

Well, no, then he probably talks more about tort reform.

Posted by: Kyle on November 6, 2007 at 11:08 PM | PERMALINK

Authors negotiating contracts with publishers have almost as much bargaining power as computer users negotiating license terms with Microsoft.

Posted by: John Casey on November 6, 2007 at 11:29 PM | PERMALINK

I was recently in the building in DC that houses Regnery publishing and was disappointed that I didn't see any snarling conservatives while I was there.

Posted by: FS on November 6, 2007 at 11:32 PM | PERMALINK

FS is a LIAR! LIAR I tell ya!!!

Posted by: elmo on November 6, 2007 at 11:43 PM | PERMALINK

you liberals conveniently forget about that time that Clinton (fill in the blank).

</obligatory 'Clinton did it too' comment>

Posted by: rnato on November 6, 2007 at 11:46 PM | PERMALINK

Heavens. These guys have the nerve to complain that the wingnut welfare isn't *lavish* enough?

Posted by: Emma Anne on November 6, 2007 at 11:46 PM | PERMALINK

maybe the disgruntled Regnery authors can get Malkin to do their discovery for them... you know, drive by the Regnery board's homes and see what kind of material their kitchen counters are made of, ask their neighbors about them...

Posted by: r€nato on November 6, 2007 at 11:49 PM | PERMALINK

Curious. How does one make money giving away books?

Oh, that's right. Liberals are trying to explain how to make money in the real world. Pardon me while I retch into my sleeve.

Posted by: Norman Rogers on November 6, 2007 at 11:50 PM | PERMALINK

Oh, that's right. Liberals are trying to explain how to make money in the real world. Pardon me while I retch into my sleeve.

well actually that's Regnery's business model, so maybe you should ask them about it.

(is Norman always this stupid?)

Posted by: r€nato on November 6, 2007 at 11:53 PM | PERMALINK

maybe the disgruntled Regnery authors can get Malkin to do their discovery for them...

You ROCK, r€nato.

Posted by: elmo on November 7, 2007 at 12:06 AM | PERMALINK

Oooh, Norman, got your goat a little? Regnery gets its money from stealing from its authors, can't you read a simple post? Oops, sorry, i guess not, rightards don't read, they whine.

Posted by: ronjazz on November 7, 2007 at 12:08 AM | PERMALINK

is Norman always this stupid?

Hell, I;m StUpId. and EVEN i CAN anwer THAT!

yes...

Posted by: elmo on November 7, 2007 at 12:09 AM | PERMALINK

is Norman always this stupid?

The 24 percenters are always that stupid.

Posted by: Max Power on November 7, 2007 at 12:17 AM | PERMALINK

No one could have predicted that this type of thing would happen...


-

Posted by: Hank Essay on November 7, 2007 at 12:24 AM | PERMALINK

A liberal is a conservative who has been exploited by the rich.

Posted by: PTate in MN on November 7, 2007 at 12:43 AM | PERMALINK

Is Norman a parody or a real troll? I can't tell.

I say: parody....a real troll wouldn't cite Alan fucking Colmes as a genuine liberal.

On the off chance that he's a real live jackass, let's go back to the tape and quote the NYT article a little more in full...

"The difference between 10 cents and $4.25 is pretty large when you multiply it by 20,000 to 30,000 books," Mr. Miniter said. "It suddenly occurred to us that Regnery is making collectively jillions of dollars off of us and paying us a pittance." He added: "Why is Regnery acting like a Marxist cartoon of a capitalist company?"

20 or 30K books? He's not exactly taking the country by storm....

Posted by: nota bene on November 7, 2007 at 12:48 AM | PERMALINK

"Why is Regnery acting like a Marxist cartoon of a capitalist company?"

Why is Miniter acting like a capitalist cartoon of a disgruntled worker? Bwa ha ha!

Posted by: craigie on November 7, 2007 at 12:51 AM | PERMALINK

A liberal is a conservative who has been exploited by the rich.

Very nice! I will immortalize your quote forever on my blog...blindintexas.blogspot.com, on my random quote thangy at the bottom of my bog...and stuff like that...;) HELLYA!

All hail PTate in MN!(i'm not joking)

Posted by: elmo on November 7, 2007 at 1:06 AM | PERMALINK

It gets better. This is from the hoover institute's site:

http://www.hoover.org/publications/policyreview/3583456.html

Urban Outrage I

To opponents of tort reform who argue that cautious judges and skeptical juries are stemming the tide of frivolous tort litigation, Richard Miniter says guess again. New York City, which has no serious tort reform, paid out 187 percent more in tort awards in 1994 than it did in 1984. Despite the city's efforts to improve safety, all kinds of injury claims are up. The increase has been fueled not so much by a rise in the number of cases brought against the city as the size of the awards paid out. What's more, personal-injury claims account for 90 percent of the claims brought against the city. Miniter challenges Governor George Pataki to tackle the trial-lawyer lobby and bring tort reform in New York.

"Under Siege: New York's Liability Ordeal," by Richard Miniter, Civil Justice Memo No. 23, January 1996. Manhattan Institute -- Tel.: 212-599-7000, fax: 212-599-3494.

article at:
http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/cjm_23.htm

hilarious!

Posted by: george on November 7, 2007 at 1:07 AM | PERMALINK

It seems that the only way the plaintiffs could prove any damages is if ALL of the non-donated books sold and the publisher did not run another set, thus costing the authors sales. If some books don't sell and the publisher gives some away, it could argue that because there were unsold books its obvious the demand was not there and the authors suffered no loss. I guess the counter to that would be "but some of the people who received free ones would have purchased books otherwise."
In any case, it is damed amusing to observe this fight.

Posted by: TEBB on November 7, 2007 at 1:27 AM | PERMALINK

too funny!

i thought the whole point of regenery was that they HAD to sell to conservative book clubs in bulk because thats the ONLY way to get someone to buy that crap.

Posted by: anon on November 7, 2007 at 1:29 AM | PERMALINK

Regnery's shyster is Bruce Sanford, who, along with Vicki Toerag, was pushing the lie that the Intelligence Identities Protection Act didn't apply the Cheney/Libby/Rove outing of Valerie Plame. Apparently Regnery has the cash to hire the sleaziest mouthpieces in the District.

I can't wait to see the wingnut welfare crowd drop their old pals (Corsi, et al.) like a Goldberg pantload in order to keep the welfare checks coming from Regnery.

Posted by: Roger Ailes on November 7, 2007 at 2:01 AM | PERMALINK

Hehe. Now that made my day.

Happy 90 year anniversary, comrades!

Posted by: Wladimir Iljitsch Uljanow on November 7, 2007 at 3:33 AM | PERMALINK

You can't read Manhatten Institute crap w/ a straight face. If course there was no increase in medical costs over that decade, right?

Posted by: tom on November 7, 2007 at 7:04 AM | PERMALINK

And when you give truckloads of the books away because they will not sell, and Scaife buys a r\truckload @ $1 each to give them away for Christmas & Halloween (they are scary in their delusions) then of course there will be no profit.

Posted by: tom on November 7, 2007 at 7:08 AM | PERMALINK

Pardon me while I retch into my sleeve.
Posted by: Norman Rogers

How can you do that, Rogers, considering that your sleeves are buckled to the back of your white jacket? Did you bribe the attendants to let you loose?

Posted by: DJ on November 7, 2007 at 7:37 AM | PERMALINK

And I thought the wonderful guys and gals over at the Committee of Public Safety were having such a lovely tea party.

Posted by: bert on November 7, 2007 at 8:26 AM | PERMALINK

Just a working class ingrate after all = a conservative that has been reamed in the name of the shareholders and stratospheric CEO pay.

Posted by: mezon on November 7, 2007 at 8:58 AM | PERMALINK

Que the Old Crow Medicine Show.....

Oh, you can't scare me
I'm stickin' to the union,
I'm stickin' to the union,
I'm stickin' to the union,
Oh, you can't scare me
I'm stickin' to the union,
I'm stickin' to the union,
Till the day I die.

"Union Maid"
Big iron World

Posted by: paul on November 7, 2007 at 9:17 AM | PERMALINK

That's a million dollars spent on conservative books. Suck eggs, liberals.

How much did the last Micheal Moore movie gross ?

Posted by: Stephen on November 7, 2007 at 9:37 AM | PERMALINK

sounds like a frivolous lawsuit

(snark)

Posted by: revko on November 7, 2007 at 9:39 AM | PERMALINK

Will Allen: Sounds like a run of the mill contract dispute, which doesn't really comprise anything ironic. What's your point, Kevin? That people you disagree with have contract disputes? Heaven forbid!

You have to love a man who displays stupidity with such alacrity.

Posted by: anonymous on November 7, 2007 at 9:42 AM | PERMALINK

Talk about an idiot of an author who probably thought he could write his own contract to save a few bucks and is now getting bitten in the ass. Standard publishing contracts include clauses detailing exactly what sort of royalties are to be paid for books "given away" for marketing purposes and how many books can be used as such. Ditto for books sold to book clubs. This is why one uses a lawyer knowledgable about the publishing industry to draw up your contract. Unless Miniter can prove that clauses of the contract he signed have been infringed, I don't see that he has a leg to stand on.

I do hope this goes to trial. Discovery is going to be hilarious. I predict continuous guffaws from everyone involved in the publishing industry as this band of Merry Morons discovers certain basics of contract law and bookselling.

Posted by: grumpy realist on November 7, 2007 at 10:09 AM | PERMALINK

Wow!Proof that Karma really exists.

Posted by: Gandalf on November 7, 2007 at 10:19 AM | PERMALINK

Grumpy is exactly right. An inexperienced author is best helped by a good lawyer or by an agent.

The other lesson here is that wingnut welfare is going down the tubes. This is what you see when businesses start to fail--the losers start suing each other.

Posted by: Charles Giacometti on November 7, 2007 at 10:25 AM | PERMALINK

But grumpy realist...only liberals hire lawyers and such to work out such niceities, the good people at regenry are fellow travellers, they wouldn't squeeze a good american like Mr. Miniture (penis) would they?

hey, anyone wanna guess what his views on the writer's guild strike?

Posted by: Northzax on November 7, 2007 at 10:26 AM | PERMALINK

howard, the term "schadenfreude" implies some sort of misfortune. In this instance we have some affluent people suing some other affluent people, in a somewhat tedious contract dispute. If that's your definition of misfortune, you've set the bar entirely too low.

Posted by: Will Allen on November 7, 2007 at 10:46 AM | PERMALINK

Yes, anonymous, I'm sure you are loved by all.

Posted by: Will Allen on November 7, 2007 at 10:49 AM | PERMALINK

So, I assume Miniter will be supporting the Writers Guild strike, since their complaints are, literally, EXACTLY THE SAME as his. The studio accountants turn every single thing into a loss so the writers don't get paid for their work. You ask 'em and the Lord of the Rings Trilogy barely broke even.

Posted by: Joshua on November 7, 2007 at 10:59 AM | PERMALINK

"howard, the term 'schadenfreude' implies some sort of misfortune."

Why yes, Will, so it does. Did you have a point to make?

Posted by: PaulB on November 7, 2007 at 11:16 AM | PERMALINK

You are correct, Joshua, that the complaints have great similarity. Without reading the contract, there is no way to know whether the plaintiffs in this suit have any hope of prevailing, but I would think they have competent legal counsel, which indicates either that there is language in the contract which gives them hope, or they are simply laying the groundwork for more favorable terms for future books. There is nothing particularly notable about this in the least, unless one is simply obsessed with those with whom one differs politically.

Posted by: Will Allen on November 7, 2007 at 11:18 AM | PERMALINK

Yes, PaulB, that no person in this story has suffered misfortune of any magnitude, and you really have to be nuts to think that the filing of a lawsuit over the terms of a contract has any particular significance.

Posted by: Will Allen on November 7, 2007 at 11:21 AM | PERMALINK

if a conservative is a liberal who's been mugged, what do you call a conservative who's come face to face with the naked face of vertically integrated capitalism?

The Plaintiff.

This has been another episode of "Simple Questions with Obvious Answers," starring Kevin Drum. Tune in again next time!

Posted by: Quaker in a Basement on November 7, 2007 at 11:45 AM | PERMALINK

What's your point, Kevin?

You're not cute enough to play dumb. You want irony? OK, let's see that one again:

"It suddenly occurred to us that Regnery is making collectively jillions of dollars off of us and paying us a pittance." He added: "Why is Regnery acting like a Marxist cartoon of a capitalist company?"
.

Posted by: The Point that Will missed on November 7, 2007 at 11:45 AM | PERMALINK

Oh, that's right. Liberals are trying to explain how to make money in the real world.

Here's what conservative monetary policy looks like in the real world.

I'm sorry, you were saying?

Posted by: Norman's Cartoon World on November 7, 2007 at 11:54 AM | PERMALINK

((( Will Allen: "... no person in this story has suffered misfortune of any magnitude..." )))

The plaintiffs will be arguing otherwise in court. But that's beside the point.

The Dopler-Schadenfreude aspect of this story is the misfortune that's yet to come as this drama unfolds. Regnery's corrupt scheme of buying books from itself in bulk so that the title lands on the best-seller lists is going to receive national attention, and it's all thanks to Jerome von Swift Boat and his pals. Regnery, in its defense, will have to tell the world how lousy their own writers are, and how they have to give their crap away because no one wants to buy it.

Win or lose, neither side is going to come out looking good, and that's a beautiful thing to behold.

Posted by: buddhistMonkey on November 7, 2007 at 12:10 PM | PERMALINK

"naked face of vertically integrated capitalism?"

This isn't a case of vertical integration as the actual creative part is outsourced. Now, if Jerome Corsi had been an employee of Regnery then it would have been vertically integrated. naked face of capitalism would have sufficed.

Posted by: richard on November 7, 2007 at 12:24 PM | PERMALINK

Will, you claimed that this was a run-of-the-mill dispute, yet strangely, you provide no parallels, instead, veering off into some inane remarks about misfortune.

and i have no idea how affluent the various writers who are suing are: how do you happen to know? i think this is the living definition of "schadenfreude;" do you have access to IRS materials that tells you otherwise?

Posted by: howard on November 7, 2007 at 12:47 PM | PERMALINK

I don't understand what the problem is. Don't they understand this is how "trickle down" economics works?

When the publisher is making "jillions" of dolars and paying the writers a pittance, that's really making the writers wealthier. Because somehow, like so much pixie dust, those jillions will eventually find their way into the pockets of the writers.

Seems easy to understand to me. Why don't right wingnuts understand how this works?

Posted by: JSG on November 7, 2007 at 12:50 PM | PERMALINK

Remember that time when Conservatives lived by their principles, rather than hid behind them?

Nah, me neither.

Posted by: Jamey on November 7, 2007 at 12:51 PM | PERMALINK

Yes, golly, how notable and ironic it is for the lawyer for the plaintiff in a contract dispute to claim that great damage has been inflicted, and what signifigance it has when a "conservative" (whatever that term means) claims that the terms of a contract have been violated.

Now, unless the point is that "conservatives" commonly claim that the terms of contracts can be ignored without fear of legal sanction, then, no, there is nothing particularly ironic about this situation at all.

Two entities fighting over some money has no real "conservative" or "liberal" aspect to it. I have no doubt that Regnery is manned by some real sharks who hunt for every last dime, but that is commonly the case in the publishing world, no matter who the sharks vote for. I am sure that the authors of these forgettable books resent that the book contracts don't have terms more favorable to them, but that is common to all but a very few authors whose books are such near-certainties in terms of sales, or whose names carry such prestige for the publisher, that the author has significantly greater bargaining power than is the norm. Now, if these "conservatives" start calling for legislative action to increase their bargaining power, that may contain some irony, although people who call themselves conservative so commonly lobby for that type of legislative action that it's ironic element is greatly diminished.

Look, this is all pretty trivial, so I kind of regret spending this much time discussing it, but it just struck me as odd that this story was seen as representative of something of greater signifigance.

Posted by: Will Allen on November 7, 2007 at 12:55 PM | PERMALINK

Golly, howard, given it was you who raised the issue that kevin used the german term, why did you choose to be so inane?

Look, if you want to think that contract disputes between authors and publishers are significant events, indicating misfortune worthy of the term "schadenfreude", you just go right ahead.

Posted by: Will Allen on November 7, 2007 at 1:01 PM | PERMALINK

Regnery makes profits? I thought they were just a sinkhole for Scaife's inheritance.

Posted by: Sara on November 7, 2007 at 1:06 PM | PERMALINK

Will,

I believe Kevin is correct, that many of the regulars here are "taking pleasure at the misfortune of" the swift boat authors predicament. I'm sure this is driven by the tragic irony that authors in question campaigned for the party that supports the sort of sharp practices that the publishers used to deprive them of the royalties they perceive to be theirs. And thus Schadenfreude would be the correct term.

And just in case you get all nit-picky:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schadenfreude
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ironic

Posted by: royalblue_tom on November 7, 2007 at 1:16 PM | PERMALINK

will, i intend to go right ahead: it is a perfectly appropriate use of the word "schadenfreude," and that's why it's worth our attention.

meanwhile, you just go right ahead and find us the loads of parallel examples to this (and no, saying that publishers are profit-maximizing sharks just doesn't come close to cutting it).

i realize that it interferes with your world-weary pose to note that the devil is in the details, but still, there you have it: the whole purpose of regnery publishing's existence is to market propaganda. now the propagandists are noting that the marketing of propaganda has left them feeling ripped off. it couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of liars, and yes, we are taking pleasure in their misfortune.

meanwhile, do you have any facts yet? that is, any basis for assuming that the writers are too affluent for words? that there are loads of comparable examples? that there is any basis for your comments in this thread other than that you like your world-weary pose?

Posted by: howard on November 7, 2007 at 1:22 PM | PERMALINK

I was going to add something here, something brilliant of course, but then I noticed that both "howard" and "albertchampion" don't have a clue as to how to use proper capital letters.

Coinkydink??? I don't think so.

Posted by: Norman Rogers on November 7, 2007 at 1:57 PM | PERMALINK

Wait a minute! Are they actually admitting that their inflated sales figures are due to dumping large numbers of books at heavily discounted prices?

Isn't that what the left has always claimed? That those writers get on the best seller lists through manipulation of the system? And now they're pissed about it? Well, he who laughs last, and all that.

Also, that conservative-liberal-mugging balderdash?

This 1960s SDS member was mugged at knife-point on West 81st Street in Manhattan back in 1972, by two guys who seemed to get more of a thrill by threatening to stab me than getting my money...and I nevered wavered from my progressive stance...

Posted by: alex milstein on November 7, 2007 at 2:27 PM | PERMALINK

A conservative is a liberal who was mugged by a thug; and a progressive is a conservative who was looted by a suit.

Why is Regnery acting like a Marxist cartoon of a capitalist company? Because it can. When Marx is heeded, even unsympathetically, then his predictions fail; but when Marx is dismissed, then his predictions come true.

Posted by: paradoctor on November 7, 2007 at 2:28 PM | PERMALINK
They call a private entity that they feel is making too much money "Marxist"?

Uh, no, they call it "a Marxist cartoon of a capitalist company", e.g., a company that acts like Marxist propaganda claims capitalist companies in general act.

That's rather different than calling it "Marxist".

Posted by: cmdicely on November 7, 2007 at 2:35 PM | PERMALINK
Two entities fighting over some money has no real "conservative" or "liberal" aspect to it.

That depends who the entities are.

When they are, say, "labor" and "capital", or specific instances of the two, dismissing "liberal" vs. "conservative" aspects out of hand is often inappropriate. But congratulations, Will, on again demonstrating your ability to find a way to generalize a situation to the point of meaninglessness ("Two entities fighting over some money.")

Posted by: cmdicely on November 7, 2007 at 2:38 PM | PERMALINK

I'm waiting for the truth to come out about ANN KKKOULTER'S books----Most are given away with subscriptions to rightwing websites/think tanks.

She hardly sells any actual copies at all, and
few people know this fact.

I say...
Let the sun shine in!!

Posted by: nikto on November 7, 2007 at 3:04 PM | PERMALINK

I sure hope this goes to trial. It would be a great fill-in during the writers strike.

We've seen the ads on conservative sites offering "3 books for $1". This is precisely how so many conservative books end up as "best sellers". How typically Republican to want to have their cake and eat it too. They want falsely inflated sales numbers, and then they want to be paid on the inflated sales numbers.

To infinity, and beyond.

Posted by: Court Jester on November 7, 2007 at 3:06 PM | PERMALINK

The less these writers (like Corsi, etc) are paid, the more money they will make.

To anybody who knows how Supply-side Economics works, this is obvious--A slam-dunk Truth.

Cutting taxes increases revenue, right?

Well there you are.

Corsi and the others should stop complaining about written-in-stone Free-Market Realities.

Like...
Less pay=More income
(according to the Church of Supply-Side).

Why, I bet even JESUS agrees.

Why do Corsi and these other complaining writers
HATE JESUS??????!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: nikto on November 7, 2007 at 3:14 PM | PERMALINK

It is impossible for Conservatives
to avoid hypocrisy.

Absolutely impossible!!!!!

Not. Gonna'. Happen.

Posted by: Barista on November 7, 2007 at 3:20 PM | PERMALINK

"...this is driven by the tragic irony that authors in question campaigned for the party that supports the sort of sharp practices that the publishers used to deprive them of the royalties they perceive to be theirs. And thus Schadenfreude would be the correct term."
====================================================
Irony is the big enemy of righties everywhere.

And life, potentially, has an endless supply
to shower them with.

Posted by: Fred on November 7, 2007 at 3:27 PM | PERMALINK

I wonder what my collection of signed Rgnery first editions will be worth someday. A tidy sum, I should think.

Posted by: Mooser on November 7, 2007 at 4:10 PM | PERMALINK

"We're not looking for a payoff, we're looking for Justice."

"But if a conservative is a liberal who's been mugged, what do you call a conservative who's come face to face with the naked face of vertically integrated capitalism?"

HMMMM
Well, apparently - a liberal.

Posted by: JaDe on November 7, 2007 at 4:15 PM | PERMALINK

I hear those Regnery books really blow the lid off them Clinton commies. Does anyone know when the comic book versions are coming out?

Posted by: DumbAss P. Republican on November 7, 2007 at 4:54 PM | PERMALINK

Will: short for willfully ignorant and willfully dishonest.

Posted by: ckelly on November 7, 2007 at 5:17 PM | PERMALINK

Of course after Jerry Corsi's bigoted freeper posts were made public, John O'Neill swore up and down that Corsi was NOT the coauthor of UFC, but just an "editor." I guess Corsi's calling him a liahhh.

Though Corsi's bit of the "book" consisted of cut 'n pastes from his online rants, he seems to feel entitled to a full cut of the dough.

Easy to see why O'Neill isn't suing, since Scott Swett wrote his bit. Maybe that's why he assumed Corsi didn't do anything either.

Hoping this doesn't settle ... discovery would be fun!

Posted by: Aprilbaby on November 7, 2007 at 7:19 PM | PERMALINK

Lawsuits are only trivial when somebody *else* is the plaintiff, LOL.

Posted by: Nancy Irving on November 8, 2007 at 3:42 AM | PERMALINK

". . . what do you call a conservative who's come face to face with the naked face of vertically integrated capitalism?"

A "capitalist cuckold?," or "cucklolded capitalist?" or "simply screwed."

Posted by: RAM on November 9, 2007 at 5:00 PM | PERMALINK




 

 

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