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November 9, 2007
By: Kevin Drum

RUDY AND BERNIE....Ah, excellent. Via Steve, I see that Rudy Giuliani is refusing to say whether he'd pardon his pal Bernie Kerik if he becomes president. "He may or may not be charged, he may or may not be convicted," Giuliani told the New York Daily News. "Who knows what happens?"

I recommend that the rest of the field start asking this question over and over and over and over. Really, you can't make Rudy tap dance his way around this often enough. Assuming you actually want to win the nomination, that is.

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This means that the Republicans will vote for Rudy in droves. Rudy, the next POTUS.

Posted by: gregor on November 9, 2007 at 1:37 PM | PERMALINK

I second gregor.

There's no way any republican candidate will make the primaries about advisors/past friends. Same for democrats, I'm afraid.

If this election could be about the character of Presidential advisors, well, we'd be living in very different times. If political cultures were open to public scrutiny, Jon Schwartz would be leading an irrelevant revolution.

Posted by: A Different Matt on November 9, 2007 at 1:47 PM | PERMALINK

BFF.

Rule of Law is SOOOOO 1990s!!

Posted by: Gore/Edwards 08 on November 9, 2007 at 1:54 PM | PERMALINK

whether he'd pardon his pal Bernie Kerik if he becomes president.

Umm, here is a question of law. If Kerik becomes president couldn't he pardon himself?

Posted by: Tripp on November 9, 2007 at 2:09 PM | PERMALINK

Nothing like trying to keep the really important issues central to the campaign.

Posted by: John Hansen on November 9, 2007 at 3:15 PM | PERMALINK

RUDY AND BERNIE....Ah, excellent. Via Steve, I see that Rudy Giuliani is refusing to say whether he'd pardon his pal Bernie Kerik if he becomes president. "He may or may not be charged, he may or may not be convicted," Giuliani told the New York Daily News. "Who knows what happens?" —Kevin Drum

Pardon him? He better hope that Kerik perjures himself, otherwise may be Rudy needing a pardon as well.

Posted by: JeffII on November 9, 2007 at 4:26 PM | PERMALINK

Hey, lets be fair here. While I may not know who I will eventually vote for, Rudy is at the top of the list of those I will adamantly oppose. I would also question the judgement of anyone who would answer yes or no to the question. Whatever happened to innocent until PROVEN guilty?

I, for one, would refuse to answer because for now the question is completely irrelevant & irresponsible. By saying NO, I would be implying the man's guilt. By saying YES, I would defeat my candidacy whether or not he is guilty.

You're partisanship is showing badly here, Kevin. Tell us, would you respond the same way, no matter who was asked the question with the same response? Didn't think so. Try thinking a little further ahead. Do you really want to hold Hillary or Obama or whoever you support to the same standard?

Posted by: bob in fla on November 9, 2007 at 5:26 PM | PERMALINK

Isn't an indictment a charging document? So don't we now know that he's been charged?

Posted by: Adam on November 9, 2007 at 6:10 PM | PERMALINK

Why even ask him? Don't we already know the answer?

Posted by: tomeck on November 9, 2007 at 6:17 PM | PERMALINK

bobinfla, you pose a perfectly rational response to this post by Kevin. Oddly, the media seem consumed by HRC leaving a tip or clapping everywhere she goes, with the idea that those stupid inane things somehow speak to character. But you want to caution against leaping to judgment about Kerik?

Here's the hint. This has nothing to do with Kerik and everything to do with Rudy's character and judgment. For god's sake, man, Rudy wanted Kerik to be the head of Homeland Security. How bad does a candidate's judgment have to be?

Except, Rudy is a Republican. Shhhh, don't wake the baby.

Posted by: TJM on November 9, 2007 at 6:23 PM | PERMALINK

I don't understand why Rudy doesn't just get in a high dudgeon and say "of course I wouldn't pardon him, if he was convicted. I am a man of integrity."

After he's crowned, er, elected, he can pardon whoever he wants and if we call him on it, we're off to wherever he stashed the squeegee guys when he "swept the homeless off the streets."

Posted by: thersites on November 9, 2007 at 6:46 PM | PERMALINK

But you want to caution against leaping to judgment about Kerik?
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TJM, you missed the point. Both the media attack on Hillary's supposedly not leaving a tip & the particular question we were discussing concerning Rudy's possible pardon of Kerik were a lot of hot air over nothing.

Rudy's judgment & overpowering temper are definitely major concerns about his fitness to serve as POTUS. No question. My position is that we in the middle & the left are supposedly a rational group of people opposed to attack dog politics. The original question about the pardon & the response to his answer is just more of the same mudslinging politics. Rudy's response was one of the very few reasonable ones he has taken.

Re read my response. Rudy is the FIRST candidate of all of them I would strongly oppose. The only possibility where I would have to think twice about it would be Cheney.

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