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November 9, 2007
By: Kevin Drum

PROCRUSTEAN QUOTING....Yeah, this is pretty shameless. Usually you have to go to FreeRepublic to find editing this creative, not CNN.

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You clearly haven't been watching CNN regularly.

PS -- Kevin, is this a record posting day for you?

Posted by: Gore/Edwards 08 on November 9, 2007 at 8:03 PM | PERMALINK

I'm sure glad we have CNN on our side to balance out the terrible crap that Fox puts on. I'd hate to think where we'd be without them.

Posted by: bigcat on November 9, 2007 at 8:11 PM | PERMALINK

Maybe this is just CNN's version of MadLibs

Posted by: quietcity on November 9, 2007 at 8:13 PM | PERMALINK

OT, did anyone see McCain's mother trash Mormons on Tweety's show? And Tweety ask her why her HUSBAND should be president? And she answer that he would make a good MAYOR?

GREAT TEEVEE!!!

Posted by: Econobuzz on November 9, 2007 at 8:22 PM | PERMALINK

Corporation News Network, make it up if you have to.

Posted by: nutty little nut nut on November 9, 2007 at 8:39 PM | PERMALINK

Why the surprise? Well, maybe you aren't, Kev, but media "edits" the Democrats negatively since... gosh, that long.

I bet this was a during the creepy Tom Foreman "political" reporting segment. Yep, it sure was. Foreman is as shameless as Tweety.

Posted by: Apollo 13 on November 9, 2007 at 8:51 PM | PERMALINK

I bet this was a during...

Hey, I'm feeling Italian and sipping Chianti tonight!

Posted by: Apollo 13 on November 9, 2007 at 9:00 PM | PERMALINK

Hey Wingnuts! Is this what you mean by "liberal" media bias? According to all of you, CNN is the worst example of it. Perhaps you could explain this to me? . . . funny - all I hear are crickets . . .

Posted by: bob in fla on November 9, 2007 at 9:45 PM | PERMALINK

Theseus for President . . .

Posted by: rea on November 9, 2007 at 9:59 PM | PERMALINK

Ted Turner (basically liberal, married Jane Fonda) founded CNN - what happened? Didn't he have enough sense to construct legacy protection mechanisms?

Posted by: Neil B. on November 9, 2007 at 10:02 PM | PERMALINK

"CNN: We're worse than Fox News!"

Posted by: Disputo on November 9, 2007 at 10:05 PM | PERMALINK

"CNN: We're worse than Fox News!"
And we don't make near as much money!!

Posted by: jay boilswater on November 9, 2007 at 10:14 PM | PERMALINK

More hypocrisy, Bush, the vacation record holder, talks about congress not getting work done when several GOPers were leaving because of the five day work week.

And CNN, your a Christian network, you really should know better than to pull a FOX.

Posted by: Ya Know.... on November 9, 2007 at 10:59 PM | PERMALINK

So, I hope that no one is naive enough at this point to think that CNN did this piece of creative editing accidently, this is mendacity pure and simple. We would do better to stop watching this corporate cartoon propoganda channel.

Posted by: AnotherBruce on November 9, 2007 at 11:55 PM | PERMALINK

Kevin, I'm going to make a little guess here and mention that I think what commentors here are objecting to is your statement not CNN.

The only reply that I can make is yes CNN! This is the news station that invented the term "war porn" (To be fair, it was invented for them, but this network only truly feels alive when some brown person is dying at the wrong end of an American bomb.)

These are also the guys that employ the idiot fascist Glenn Beck and uberxenophobe Lou Dobbs. Whatever the hell they are, they are not liberal in any tiny way. They deserve more scorn than Fox News, because in many ways, they are less honest about their intentions.

Posted by: AnotherBruce on November 10, 2007 at 12:11 AM | PERMALINK

Yeah and with all the faux talk about how CNN is liberal? It's not even liberal compared to FOX news.

It's Murdock - and whatever desperate measures Murdock tries from either FOX or CNN to try and shore-up, spin for the bleak outlook of the Republican party.

According to the Huffington Post it appears that Nancy is going to bring another END THE WAR bill back before 2008. Maybe this time will be charm as everyone is very tired of this go nowhere damn war of Bush's including conservative voters.

Interesting that CNN had a post about oil.

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- With the war in Iraq now estimated to cost the United States nearly $2 trillion over the next ten years, many taxpayers are probably wondering what happened to all that oil money that was supposed to help pay for the war.

At this point, Iraq will never sign Bush's Hydrocarbon Framework Law, so there is no reason to be there in Iraq in a desperate hope to protect vital interest that will never be ours. The surge bought time for nothing, it only cost huge amounts of money - got more people killed. AND really, even as Hillary says we'll be there till 2013, I don't see Americans wanting to stay that long even in slow draw down.

Posted by: Me_again on November 10, 2007 at 3:07 AM | PERMALINK

big cat,

Up to about a couple of years ago, I would have agreed with you - However, since then, CNN has become FAUX-Lite - So many appear to be auditioning for FAUX - Bill Hemmer jumped. For CNN to be considered liberal, it would be like Tammy Bruce being labeled a liberal Democrat when she schmoozes with BillO.

Will be interesting to see the ratings when Lou Dobbs is moved into the prime time slot against BillO - Oh what a problem for the racists - What to do, what to do?

Posted by: bert on November 10, 2007 at 9:16 AM | PERMALINK

i can't bear to watch cnn any longer. between the degraded content and the clueless -- but fetching -- chatterbunnies, i've found better use of my time and more reliable sources of information. and without the aggravation!

Posted by: linda on November 10, 2007 at 9:24 AM | PERMALINK

CNN, being on "our side" is like saying Feinstein is on our side.

Posted by: bert on November 10, 2007 at 9:28 AM | PERMALINK

And IF Murdock would do this on CNN, what about WSJ, What about his new economy show and the DOW?

Everybody knows that Murdock puts lipstick on the things that he owns, at least by now they should.

CNN is not liberal news media and Murdock is not fair and balanced.

Posted by: Me_again on November 10, 2007 at 9:39 AM | PERMALINK

Another shameless act

Here is what is Greenwald is saying about Dianne Feistein?

Feinstein backs legal immunity for telecom firms in wiretap cases

Greenwald goes on to write:

Could the universe be any larger between what Feinstein's constituents want and what she is doing in the Senate? Here are the latest views of California voters of the President to whose agenda Feinstein is displaying such ferocious fidelity:

Do you approve or disapprove of the job George W. Bush is doing as President?

Approve -- 28%

Disapprove -- 70%

Among California Democrats, a grand total of 9% approve of Feinstein's beloved President; 90% disapprove. Obviously, nothing could be less relevant to Feinstein than the views of her constituents, but still, the disparity between what they believe and what she is doing is just striking, even for the Beltway.

Did California learn nothing from Gray Davis and Republican party?

Greenwald also says:

UPDATE: Feinstein herself spent inordinate sums of money from corporate donors in 2006 to ensure she was re-elected, so she is not up for re-election until 2012 (when she'll be 80). Hopefully, though, the ethics process relating to her highly questionable behavior in directing multi-billion-dollar defense contracts to her husband's companies will proceed in earnest.

California can recall a Sen. Feinstein NOW with enough signatures. She can always get another job with AT&T as lobbyist.

And as Greenwald points out Feinstein is out-right lying to the US public>

Feinstein ....said in her statement that "suits are unfair to the companies, which are 'unable to defend themselves in court' because the government has insisted that their activities be kept secret." That is just false. As the Chronicle reported: "federal law allows such defendants to present secret evidence in private to the judge, a practice [EFF's Cindy Cohn] said has been carried out for decades without any leaks."

Sen. Feinstein doesn't respect her voters, she doesn't represent them, she only represents her self interest, and with intent NOT to represent the voters of CA, she also doesn't respect the US Constitution. Wiretapping is illegal, torture is illegal.

And CA doesn't have to wait until 2012 to do something about about their selfserving Senator, Ms. Feinstein. There is nothing honorable about someone who represents herself while spitting on right of all Americans.

Posted by: Me_again on November 10, 2007 at 10:33 AM | PERMALINK

Norman Mailer died.

Posted by: m on November 10, 2007 at 10:35 AM | PERMALINK


liberal media?

"I admit it -- the liberal media were never that powerful, and the whole thing was often used as an excuse by conservatives for conservative failures." - William Kristol in the New Yorker 5/22/95

Posted by: mr. irony on November 10, 2007 at 10:43 AM | PERMALINK

Ted Turner (basically liberal, married Jane Fonda) founded CNN - what happened? Didn't he have enough sense to construct legacy protection mechanisms?
Posted by: Neil B. on November 9, 2007 at 10:02 PM
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Jan 2001: Time/AOL merger
Jan 2003: Turner resigns as vice chairman of Time/Warner.
May 2005: Bernard Shaw leaves.
Feb 2006: Ted Turner leaves Time/Warner board of directors.

All I know is that as Ted Turner's influence waned the quality of CNN went into the toilet. It's been noticeable bad just the last two years. The most striking downturn was around the time that Bernard Shaw left. Also, the more concentrated/merged/agglomerated the media becomes the worse it gets.

Posted by: Doc at the Radar Station on November 10, 2007 at 11:11 AM | PERMALINK

Ah, Kevin.

Why get your pants in a wad? You mean you think this Congress has done something? I see you liberals here every day complaining how the democrats in Congress are letting you down. Yet now you want to pursue this victimization line.

Besides, I think this CNN edit had merit. You think they have time to air her entire spech? Basically you're nitpicking when the substance of the actual quote and the edit are the same.

Posted by: egbert on November 10, 2007 at 12:22 PM | PERMALINK

If CNN were any smarter, Kevin, we wouldn't need your blog.

Posted by: Matt on November 10, 2007 at 12:25 PM | PERMALINK

CNN's editing shenanigan's are no surprise.

Several month's ago I heard CNN reporter Joe John's refer to the "Democrat" congress. I was outrage for two reasons: First, the ungrammatical use of the noun "democrat" instead of the adjective "democratic" irritates me. And reporters, TV reporters in particular, are poor guardians of the language. (Have the words "effect" and "center" been banished from the English dictionary and replaced by "impact" and "epicenter?") Second, the republicans insistence on the ungrammatical construct is beyond immature and drives me crazy. I'd hate it if (supposedly) adult Democratic pols consistently used an ungrammatical term or a slur (which the ungrammatical use of "Democrat" is) to refer to Republicans.

I wrote a nasty email to CNN (a response did not follow) and later discovered that Joe Johns is married to Michelle D. Bernard, the president and CEO of the Independent Women's Forum. Surprise, surprise.

Posted by: tec619 on November 10, 2007 at 12:31 PM | PERMALINK

Our Cherry-Picker-in-Chief, Torture VP Dick, is at it again -- gotta fit the "facts" to that pre-ordained policy, you know!:

Cheney Tried to Stifle Dissent in Iran NIE
by Gareth Porter [Inter Press Service]

A National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) on Iran has been held up for more than a year in an effort to force the intelligence community to remove dissenting judgments on the Iranian nuclear programme, and thus make the document more supportive of U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney's militarily aggressive policy toward Iran, according to accounts of the process provided by participants to two former Central Intelligence Agency officers. ...
.

Posted by: Poilu on November 10, 2007 at 12:41 PM | PERMALINK

CNN's turn to the right came right after AOL
s merger with Time Warner, which was investigated by several government agencies including the SEC, investigations which just sort of petered out.
Coincidence is a marvelous thing.

Posted by: JMG on November 10, 2007 at 1:12 PM | PERMALINK

CNN = Crap, Not News

Posted by: Cal Gal on November 10, 2007 at 3:45 PM | PERMALINK

tec619, I agree about the grammar. It isn't just ugly. Seriously, I believe that wrongly using words (like "impact" as a verb) in a public sphere is both lazy and a covert signal that we are willing to be led by whoever is currently in charge.

In short, the same people who complain about the decline in standards are the same ones making it happen. But they are at least willing to meet in the bathroom to discuss it!

Posted by: Kenji on November 10, 2007 at 4:18 PM | PERMALINK

Besides, I think this CNN edit had merit. You think they have time to air her entire spech? Basically you're nitpicking when the substance of the actual quote and the edit are the same.
Posted by: egbert

egbert, you get stupider every day. time to go back to school, if mommy will have you.

your pal,
blake

Posted by: blake on November 10, 2007 at 6:01 PM | PERMALINK

Hey, if calling the media liberal will discredit their reporting on my "business", I'll call the media liberal.

That's all it ever was.

Posted by: Joey Giraud on November 10, 2007 at 7:51 PM | PERMALINK

The fascist wing of the Republican Party will stop at nothing to slander Democratic candidates. Remember - they cannot win an election based on issues and the facts. Because they are on the wrong side of almost every issue Americans care about. So, they resort to lies, slander and subterfuge. We need to expose their lies every chance we get...

Posted by: The Conservative Deflator on November 11, 2007 at 8:37 AM | PERMALINK

The fascist wing of the Republican Party will stop at nothing to slander Democratic candidates. Remember - they cannot win an election based on issues and the facts. ... So, they resort to lies, slander and subterfuge.

Not to mention outright theft through electronic vote-rigging! That's been thoroughly exposed since the 2004 sham "election" (including knowledge of some remarkably dubious 2002 results, like Sonny Perdue's exit-poll-defying "victory"). But sadly, the problem is not at all resolved, thanks to the hugely "accommodating" attitude of the Congress towards those local election officials who've claimed it's just "TOO HARD" to fix by 2008, thereby restoring some semblance of legitimate democracy to America.

(Alas, I suppose we all have our "priorities".) :-(
.

Posted by: Poilu on November 11, 2007 at 2:16 PM | PERMALINK




 

 

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