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December 8, 2007
By: Kevin Drum

HUCKABEE AND DUMOND....Today in the LA Times, Richard Serrano has a story about the Wayne DuMond affair that's headlined "Parole case may dog Huckabee." The question at hand is: why did Mike Huckabee, as governor of Arkansas, push for the parole of Wayne DuMond, a convicted rapist who was then serving a 39-year sentence in the state Department of Correction's Tucker Unit? Let's listen in (all italics mine):

Three [parole] board members...said Huckabee raised the issue of DuMond's release, asking to discuss the matter with them in a closed session. They said his religious beliefs, and the influence of the evangelical community from which he came, drove him.

....[Jay] Cole, the minister who befriended DuMond, said: "The governor felt compassion for Wayne. He was sorry for him. So, I asked the governor to help. I asked him if anything could be done. And Mike had a lot of people on his neck trying to get him to get Wayne released."

....Cole, meanwhile, was working to help DuMond. Cole said he talked to "probably a hundred people" about his hope of winning DuMond's release, turning foremost to the evangelical community...."All of them thought Wayne was innocent," said Cole.

Interesting! Out of all the Arkansas prisoners who claimed to have discovered God, the Arkansas evangelical community chose DuMond as its poster boy. I wonder how that came about?

The answer, of course, was not merely that famous Southern evangelical compassion for convicted rapists serving out long sentences in state prison. It was because DuMond's victim was Bill Clinton's second cousin once removed, and the Clinton-hating fever swamp had long since turned DuMond into yet another of its spittle-flecked conspiracy theories about the endless treachery and hellish vengeance of William Jefferson Clinton upon his enemies. But you'll find not a single mention of this in Serrano's story.

Now here's the thing. Maybe DuMond got a raw deal of some kind. It would hardly be the first time. And maybe Arkansas evangelicals were partly motivated by a sincere belief that DuMond had found God and deserved a second chance. I even understand that in a mainstream news story Serrano can't harp on a particular piece of the backstory that partisan bloggers like me tend to emphasize.

But still, this is part of the story, isn't it? Doesn't it deserve at least a mention, instead of being pushed studiously down the memory hole because it might offend someone? Why did the Arkansas evangelical community choose Wayne DuMond as its champion, rather than the hundreds of other convicted felons who all claim they're innocent? The question just hangs there, twisting, as if merely recounting the well-known background to the case would constitute an unconscionable slur. And so the story is only half told.

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Kevin, to be fair, Huckabee was on a pardoning spree, he pardoned something like 700 people. Probably not wise, but I doubt all 700 pardons were to get back at Clinton. The finding god /rehabilitation line does seem plausible given the sheer #'s of pardons. Wise? Probably Not. Purely Political? No.

Posted by: Jor on December 8, 2007 at 2:22 PM | PERMALINK

I think Bob Summerby may be on to something this time. The press doesn't want to talk about Clinton Derangement Syndrome because they are embarrassed about their own complicity. Otherwise I can't see any reason for hiding such a juicy, interesting part of the story from their readers. Usually newspapers are all about the juicy interesting parts.

Posted by: EmmaAnne on December 8, 2007 at 2:29 PM | PERMALINK

Why did the Arkansas evangelical community choose Wayne DuMond as its champion, rather than the hundreds of other convicted felons who all claim they're innocent?

The Arkansas evangelical community probably looked carefully at the hundreds of convicted felons who might've been innocent and decided DuMond had the best case of innocence. Nothing malicious here. As for Bill Clinton being involved in the case, it certainly wouldn't be surprising if the Clinton machine decided to railroad an innocent man as a punishment for alleged crimes against his relative. It certainly wouldn't be the first time Clinton and his allies launched heinous attacks against innocent individuals.
Whether or not it happened in the DuMond case, I can't say for sure, but there is no conclusive evidence for or against this point of view. I think we should give the evangelical community the benefit of the doubt that they were sincere in their opinion that DuMond was innocent rather than make up a conspiracy theory everything they do is driven by a hatred of Bill Clinton.

Posted by: Al on December 8, 2007 at 2:35 PM | PERMALINK

Maybe DuMond got a raw deal of some kind.

How so? He was a recidivist predator. He was involved in a murder years before being convicted of rape.

And if they really believed that he was all rehabbed and reformed and made whole, or whatever those whack-jobs purport to believe happens when you find Jesus, why was one of the conditions of his release that he had to leave the state???

Posted by: Blue Girl, Red State (aka G.C.) on December 8, 2007 at 2:36 PM | PERMALINK

Peddle that line of crap to the families of the two women he killed in Kansas City, Al.

Good god - you aren't just a tool, your the entire fucking chest.

Posted by: Blue Girl, Red State (aka G.C.) on December 8, 2007 at 2:38 PM | PERMALINK

What's needed is the names & histories of another dozen convicts who met the Evangelicals' "qualifications" yet *didn't* receive any pardon or even consideration. What is it that excluded them from Huckabee's tidal wave of compassion? That'd be a fun question to see the wingnuts spin an answer to.

Posted by: poliwog on December 8, 2007 at 2:40 PM | PERMALINK

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071208/ap_on_el_pr/huckabee_aids

Posted by: Old Hat on December 8, 2007 at 2:42 PM | PERMALINK

EmmaAnne wrote: "The press doesn't want to talk about Clinton Derangement Syndrome because they are embarrassed about their own complicity."

The press doesn't want to talk about "Clinton Derangement Syndrome" -- or their despicable propaganda war against Al Gore in the 2000 election, or their enabling of the Swift Boat attacks against John Kerry in 2004 -- but it's not because they are "embarrassed". They are shameless and incapable of "embarrassment".

It's because the "press" -- the mainstream corporate-owned media -- is still complicit, knowingly and willfully complicit, in propagandizing against Democrats and in favor of Republicans.

It's because the "press" is a wholly-owned subsidiary of America's Ultra-Rich Ruling Class Incorporated, just like the Republican Party, and their job is to propagandize the public on behalf of the corporate agenda.

The coverage of Huckabee and Dumond is a perfect example of this.

The mainstream media has enabled the far-right lunatic fringe media (Fox News, the Moonie Times, Limbaugh, and other purveyors of rabid anti-Clinton, anti-Gore and anti-Kerry hate propaganda) for a long time. It's not an accident or the result of sloppiness or laziness, and they are not "embarrassed" about it. They are well-paid for it.

Posted by: SecularAnimist on December 8, 2007 at 2:44 PM | PERMALINK

Didn't Lyndon LaRouche propose jailing AIDS patients, too?

Posted by: Old Hat on December 8, 2007 at 2:44 PM | PERMALINK

Answering *why* the story gets half-told is what
Bob Somerby has been doing (quite well, in my opinion)
for years. You should consider his analysis -- he writes
about Gore because it's the best demonstration of the
shortcomings of our press, but the problems he writes
about certainly haven't gone away, and they won't go
away until we start complaining louder about half-stories
like this one.

Posted by: howler fan on December 8, 2007 at 2:47 PM | PERMALINK

Maybe DuMond got a raw deal of some kind.

Blue Girl summed it up nicely. Even a cursory review of the case shows that there is no reason to entertain the notion that Dumond may have gotten a raw deal. None. Literally all the evidence, including his previous participation in a murder, points to his having been a repeat violent criminal who very much deserved to be in prison.

If this was supposed to be an attempt at he said/she said "balance," it just looks silly.

Posted by: shortstop on December 8, 2007 at 2:51 PM | PERMALINK

Al has debased himself (if such a thing were possible for a lying hack) by becoming an apologist for recidivist rapists and murders. He is true scum.

Posted by: DJ on December 8, 2007 at 2:53 PM | PERMALINK

Just checked and the online version now briefly mentions that Stevens was Clinton's distant cousin.

Posted by: shortstop on December 8, 2007 at 3:01 PM | PERMALINK

Whether or not it happened in the DuMond case, I can't say for sure, but there is no conclusive evidence for or against this point of view. I think we should give the evangelical community the benefit of the doubt that they were sincere in their opinion that DuMond was innocent rather than make up a conspiracy theory everything they do is driven by a hatred of Bill Clinton.
Posted by: Al on December 8, 2007 at 2:35 PM

Al you ignorant slut. As soon as DuMond was released he came to my state and raped and murdered two innocent women. I am sure all the Clinton conspiracy wackos want to overlook that little fact. I don't hear the Arkansas evangelical or right wing wacko communities saying they are sorry for loosing such a monster on their neighboring state. We in Missouri are not over looking the fact that DuMond should never have been let out of prison and Huckabee personally took an active role in securing his release.

Posted by: corpus juris on December 8, 2007 at 3:03 PM | PERMALINK

As for Bill Clinton being involved in the case, it certainly wouldn't be surprising if the Clinton machine decided to railroad an innocent man as a punishment for alleged crimes against his relative.

Sure it wouldn't be surprising...if you are the most ignorant f***ing piece of crap ever to walk the face of the earth.

Posted by: Col Bat Guano on December 8, 2007 at 3:05 PM | PERMALINK

Can Jor or someone else provide some links or other evidence to support Huckabee's "pardoning spree"? How many others in the spree were convicted rapists? I hadn't heard that one yet and would like to check it out.

Posted by: Chief Brodie on December 8, 2007 at 3:07 PM | PERMALINK

Al, Fifty bucks to you if you will walk into the "Old 69" tavern in Eagleville, MO, a town of about 400 up near the Iowa line and repeat that line of crap you just spewed forth. That happens to be where one of his victims grew up. Ask folks in northwest Missouri and they pretty much unanimously consider Huckabee to be guilty of felony murder.

Posted by: Blue Girl, Red State (aka G.C.) on December 8, 2007 at 3:09 PM | PERMALINK
The answer, of course, was not merely that famous Southern evangelical compassion for convicted rapists serving out long sentences in state prison. It was because DuMond's victim was Bill Clinton's second cousin once removed, and the Clinton-hating fever swamp had long since turned DuMond into yet another of its spittle-flecked conspiracy theories about the endless treachery and hellish vengeance of William Jefferson Clinton upon his enemies. But you'll find not a single mention of this in Serrano's story.

Is there a phrase book or something - cuz I keep seeing these exact same phrases popping up in relation to this story.

Make your point originally - or credit the writer you are cribbing it from.

Posted by: sidewinder on December 8, 2007 at 3:12 PM | PERMALINK

sidewinder, "fever swamp" is a much-loved and frequently employed phrase of Kevin's. Usually he uses it to describe progressives, though.

Posted by: shortstop on December 8, 2007 at 3:22 PM | PERMALINK

Chief Brodie: Here is a link to an article in an Arkansas paper. The article is about prosecutors being pissed at him for throwing open the prison doors.

He let a whole bunch of people go without informing victims or prosecutors of what he was doing or why.

He is utterly unfit to serve lunch, let alone as chief executive. As he has already amply displayed.

Posted by: Blue Girl, Red State (aka G.C.) on December 8, 2007 at 3:25 PM | PERMALINK

But how smart is it to go after Huckabee now about this?

Why not let him get the Republican nomination first, then expose it? At that point, the Dems could save some money by using an old storyboard for their ad. It worked then.

Posted by: JS on December 8, 2007 at 3:47 PM | PERMALINK

Why not let him get the Republican nomination first, then expose it?

I'm kind of inclined to support this idea.

Media incompetence and cowardice re Huckabee can serve a larger purpose.

Let's all pretend that they're smart and brave.

Posted by: frankly0 on December 8, 2007 at 3:53 PM | PERMALINK

Another way to put it: By hitting Republican candidates on their weak points before the Republican convention, the Dems (a) help them vet their candidates, and (b) show their hand way too early.

Posted by: JS on December 8, 2007 at 3:56 PM | PERMALINK

Kevin, to be fair, Huckabee was on a pardoning spree, he pardoned something like 700 people. - Jor

why was one of the conditions of his release that he had to leave the state??? - BGRS


What I would like to know is.. how many of the 700 that were pardoned had to leave the state?

Posted by: Doc at the Radar Station on December 8, 2007 at 4:13 PM | PERMALINK

Why not let him get the Republican nomination first, then expose it?

Now that Huckabee is leading in Iowa, I think we will be hearing a lot more about this. If I were one of the Republican candidates, I'd be bringing this up every chance I got.

I'd also bring up Rudy's Terrorism/Love Nest Command Center in every single speech. This has got to be the most ridiculous field of candidates either party has ever offered.

Posted by: Mark S. on December 8, 2007 at 4:15 PM | PERMALINK

It seems at least plausible that Huckabee could win the Republican nomination despite the Drumond case.

After all, Huckabee can find among the Republicans very sympathetic ears to his "extenuating" circumstances.

Yes, he was urged to release Drumond in large part due to the influence of Clinton hating conspiracy fanatics. But the Republican base is composed of Clinton hating conspiracy fanatics, so this is not really a bad thing.

Yes, he felt that Drumond should be released because Drumond had found Jesus. But the Republican base is at its core a bunch of Jesus freaks who would be entirely sympathetic to this plea.

Indeed, it is, I'm sure, precisely because so many people in Arkansas are just like the Republican base on these counts that Huckabee managed to be elected despite the Drumond case.

As I think about it, I certainly don't see the Drumond release as fatal to Huckabee's nomination by the Republican Party.

But just wait for the man to try to appeal to the entire national electorate with his excuses on the Drumond affair.

The man will be slaughtered. We aren't all Republicans, and we aren't Arkansas.

Posted by: frankly0 on December 8, 2007 at 4:27 PM | PERMALINK

Now really, I'm totally confused. What happened to the law'n'order, three strikes'n'you're out, death penalty forever repub mantras? What's with suddenly releasing serial rapists and murderers back into society because you just know in your heart that they're a)forgiven, or b)repentant? When did that become the Gooper line?

Oh wait, I forgot, IOKIYAR. And it's all Clinton's fault.

Posted by: Delia on December 8, 2007 at 4:33 PM | PERMALINK

This is one of the most convincing cases of how the Clinton hatred went beyond the merely political and the simply racist and achieved that vicious blend of paranoia and nastiness that characterizes so much of the right wing line. It should be trotted out every time they try another swift boating on whomever they pick as the latest victim.

A hint: the righties pick whichever Democrat looks capable of developing into a national leader. I still remember how Limbaugh started going after Tom Daschle when he became Senate majority leader; all of a sudden we were seeing angry letters to the editor in our daily newspaper attacking Daschle, from people who wouldn't have been able to identify whether the Dakotas were west or east of the Missouri river.

With the political landscape changing, it's time to remind the large block of centrist and independent voters that they need to actively oppose the freaks currently running the country.

Posted by: Bob G on December 8, 2007 at 5:11 PM | PERMALINK

Hey, Kevin,

Good catch.

I said pretty much the same thing about CNN on Thursday: http://mccarthy.vg/article.pl?sid=07/12/06/200233

Posted by: Jamie McCarthy on December 8, 2007 at 5:11 PM | PERMALINK

I've never seen anyone who was so intensely hated with so little justification as Bill Clinton (except maybe Hillary).

Posted by: Lee on December 8, 2007 at 5:44 PM | PERMALINK

From the WSJ editorial board...
Some say Mr. Huckabee is the tribune of the “religious left,” and that strikes us as about right. He exhibits protectionist instincts, distancing himself from Nafta and saying he would insist on penalties and barriers to countries that don’t support his conception of “fair trade.” He delivers populist sermons against income inequality, but in favor of farm subsidies and an expanded government role in health care. He regularly knocks Wall Street, and he borrows from the Democratic playbook with digs at “the rich.“

That's why I have no idea why so many on the left are obsessed with bashing Huckabee. Is there a better republican candidate out there? (besides Ro n Paul)? Not that Im aware of.

Link for Huckabee's 700 pardons, from Arkansas Ledger

Hat Tip Political Inquirer

Posted by: Jor on December 8, 2007 at 6:10 PM | PERMALINK

You left out one little detail, Jor: Dumond was the very first pardon that Huckabee did when he became governor:

Herzfeld is not exaggerating when he says Huckabee's pardons policies are "fatally flawed." When the governor first came into office, he announced that convicted rapist Wayne DuMond had been framed and pushed for his early release. Confronted with the evidence against DuMond, Huckabee de-nied him clemency, although a backroom deal with the Post Prison Transfer Board allowed DuMond to move to Missouri, where he soon killed at least one woman and probably two.

Nice try at changing the subject, though.

Oh, and no anti-abortion, pro-death-penalty candidate can be said to be "religious left" except by the WSJ editoral board, who are somewhere to the right of Pinochet.

Posted by: Mnemosyne on December 8, 2007 at 6:43 PM | PERMALINK

That did make me chuckle. "Why don't you uptight libs listen to the WSJ editorial board when they tell you this man is 'religious left'?"

And the characterization came complete with the vaunted "some say," translated neatly as "Daniel Henninger happened to mutter this on the way to lunch."

Posted by: shortstop on December 8, 2007 at 7:13 PM | PERMALINK

Republican primary voters have to pick someone. Besides Ron Paul, who is a better candidate? I'm not the one ignoring the ultimate question that matters. President Huckabee would be better than President Guliani or President Romney. Those are the republican alternatives.

Mnemosyne, so all 700+ pardons weren't out of some naive belief in rehabilitation, but spite out for Clinton?

Posted by: Jor on December 8, 2007 at 7:20 PM | PERMALINK

"Why don't you uptight libs listen to the WSJ editorial board when they tell you this man is 'religious left'?"

Maybe because it's the stupidest fucking thing we've heard lately?

Posted by: Blue Girl, Red State (aka G.C.) on December 8, 2007 at 9:53 PM | PERMALINK

Wow, I try to follow a rule of not posting on the internet. But I'm a native Arkansan, I've lived here my entire life except for a couple of years in Monterey, CA, and Savannah, GA in the military.

I grew up next to Dale Bumper's kids in Charleston, I think the world of the Pryors, and I'm a confirmed Clintonista, I like it here, it's home.

But please, Huckabee listened to Jay Cole! Jay Cole is the batshit craziest mofo in hillbillydom, he's so crazy we make jokes about him and his son Jay Cole JR every time they come on TV telling us to fear God and the END TIMES.

You'd have to see these loons to beleive it. Seriously, please let Huckaboo win the nomination.

We'll bring out Jay Cole, Jay Cole JR, Huck's mouth breathing, dog torturing sons, his wife Jethrine, Osborne Jennings, etc.

My wife thought I'd already heard the Jay Cole bit, but no, I'm sheltered I guess.

Wow.

Posted by: anonymous on December 8, 2007 at 10:37 PM | PERMALINK

Jor says:
"President Huckabee would be better than President Guliani or President Romney."

Would he? The Dumond affair shows what we can assume to be his typical judgements, methods of operation. It shows a pretty spectacular failure as a public official. If this was an isolated case, a newbie mistake, it might be forgiveable. Huckabee hasn't shown he learned anything from this. At best, it shows a man unprepared for the duties of President.

Posted by: coldhotel on December 8, 2007 at 11:34 PM | PERMALINK

Um, no.

Huckabee is actually the scariest GOP candidate out of all of them. He might seem all kind and grandfatherly but he's a Christian fundamentalist right-winger-- evolution-denying, gays-are-the-downfall-of-society right-winger. Basically his fangs don't show but they are certainly there. He's the most dangerous because he is capable of lulling far too many people into thinking that being a fundie and wanting a Christian government is perfectly OK as long as you smile a lot while you're doing it.

Posted by: zoe kentucky on December 9, 2007 at 1:01 AM | PERMALINK

Zoe! Happy Hanukkah! I was just thinking about you a few days ago!

Very good points. I believe the way I phrased it in a post a couple of days ago was along the lines of "if you like the current faux-christianist we have, just wait til you get a load of the real thing."

Posted by: Blue Girl, Red State (aka G.C.) on December 9, 2007 at 1:16 AM | PERMALINK

I'd forgotten all about Jay Cole. His commercials always freaked me out when I was a little kid.

People seem to forget that the Bro-Gov only got his shot at statewide office because Clinton became president and even then, Huckabee needed Jim Guy Tucker to step down as a result of Whitewater. Huckabee's entire political career is based on Clinton craziness.

Posted by: Bob LaBlog on December 9, 2007 at 1:25 AM | PERMALINK

That's why I have no idea why so many on the left are obsessed with bashing Huckabee.

Where are you seeing all these Huckabee-bashing-lefties, Jor? Give us some links.

I've seen the occasional critical post on blogs like this one, but it never comes close to the number of posts about Giuliani, Romney, or McCain. Obsession should be made of sterner stuff.

Posted by: Oregonian on December 9, 2007 at 1:43 AM | PERMALINK

Huckabee indeed does not seem to be as nasty as Guiliani or as glib, venal, and preposterous as Romney. But I question his competence, based not just on the Dumond affair, but also the utterly inexplicable 180 on immigration, and his idiotic sales tax proposal (the last two of which appear to have been hastily adopted after cursory readings, probably off the Internet. Immigration hardliner Mark Krikorian, the author of the proposal Huckabee just adopted, said he wasn't even consulted by the Huckabee camp. Weird.).

Posted by: kth on December 9, 2007 at 1:46 AM | PERMALINK

Deep thoughts:
Was Dumond a segment in the "Clinton Scandals" tape peddled by Falwell? If he was, it's no wonder the evangelicals adopted him--they simply can not conceive of a preacher lying to them. It's part of that conservative authoritarian mindset that goes looking for Daddy with the discrimination of a month old puppy. See if you can find much difference in the ORU scandal and the Hillsdale College follies from a few years back. Daddy is never wrong.
As for Huckabee, you'll see the shit hit the fan as soon as he threatens someone's lead in the primary. Out here there's nothing too low for a Republican primary--the opposition research machines are competing with each other now, and don't seem to care who they work for so long as the check clears. Funny how it's usually a Republican cutting it.

Posted by: Steve Paradis on December 9, 2007 at 1:59 AM | PERMALINK

@Steve Paradis: An online transcript does show The Clinton Chronicles referring to the Dumond case: "In March, 1985, Wayne Dumond was castrated and subsequently imprisoned for allegedly raping Bill Clinton's 17 year-old cousin. Even after it had been proved that Dumond had been falsely accused and was completely innocent, Clinton blocked his release from prison."

Posted by: Jeffrey Kramer on December 9, 2007 at 4:06 AM | PERMALINK

I have no interest in seeing Huckleberry as the nominee or prez, but I'm curious as to why all left/lib accounts of this matter leave out the purported lynching/castration part of the story. Can't an argument be made that if Huck thought the man had been castrated for his crimes he'd been punished enough? and probably wouldn't have the propensity to rape again?

Posted by: mr insensitive on December 9, 2007 at 10:17 AM | PERMALINK

I don't give a shit that a recidivist predator/rapist was castrated. So the fuck what? Call it a taste of his own medicine. He had something precious taken from him.

And it didn't stop him, did it? Rape is about power and subjugation. He still had those impulses - they are located in the brain, not the testicles.

Those foam-flecked inbred christianist whackjobs with CDS took up a murdering scum as their cause celebre becasue they wanted to stick it to Clinton.

Well, Clinton didn't pay the price those hypocritical bastards wanted so dearly to extract.

Instead, Carol Shields and Sara Andrasek paid that price. With their lives.

And I hope that everyone who took up that bastards cause is haunted by those women every night when they lay down to sleep.

Posted by: Blue Girl, Red State (aka G.C.) on December 9, 2007 at 11:29 AM | PERMALINK

Actually the castration forms a fairly crucial part of the story, since the local wingnut colony alleged, ridiculously, that Clinton had something to do with it. So I sure wouldn't leave it out.

But the idea that Dumond was no longer a danger to society because he had lost his nads is goofy, and not just in hindsight: Dumond had previously participated in a murder, using a claw-hammer, and had only avoided punishment on that rap by flipping on his co-criminals. Didn't need his nads for that crime. So if that's what Huckabee was thinking when he turned Dumond loose, he's simply too stupid to be President.

Posted by: kth on December 9, 2007 at 12:14 PM | PERMALINK

Remember who that fever swamp was. Mostly the descendants, friends, and political supporters of the segregationists who fought, on the wrong side of the Supreme Court and the 101'st Airborne, to keep those 9 Black students out of Little Rock High School.

One of Clinton's greatest political achievements, in my opinion, was to defeat and retire some of those old throwbacks. But regretfully, the throwback faction didn't just poof into nonexistence.

The faction lives on, and its members are the people who convinced Huckabee to release that rapist.

Posted by: Jalmari on December 9, 2007 at 2:38 PM | PERMALINK

..dog torturing sons, his wife Jethrine... - anonymous

Jethrine? OMG, the feminine version of Jethro. We're doomed!

Posted by: Doc at the Radar Station on December 9, 2007 at 5:12 PM | PERMALINK

I guess I wasn't clear - I think Huckabee would be disqualified on this alone, even if I didn't think he was a clown on other issues. I also agree that castrated violent felons are still dangerous and do not deserve our sympathy. What's good for Michael Dukakis is good for the Repubs as well... What I was referring to is how much more tendentious the left-blogs are than the right or center. If Powerline or even Glenn Reynolds tried to peddle a story the way Kevin did this one, intentionally leaving out the most titillating, graphic detail, the "reality based" community would be justifiably contemptuous.

Posted by: mr insensitive on December 9, 2007 at 5:24 PM | PERMALINK

dumond did prison work release at the mansion. the huckster got to know him personally. he is an idiot with no credintials to be prez, but probably not that much of a clinton hater

Posted by: cd on December 10, 2007 at 1:13 PM | PERMALINK




 

 

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