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December 17, 2007
By: Kevin Drum

QUOTE OF THE DAY....From the book jacket of Jonah Goldberg's forthcoming Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning:

The quintessential liberal fascist isn't an SS storm trooper; it is a female grade-school teacher with an education degree from Brown or Swarthmore.

Quite so. Up against the wall with all of 'em.

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Typical NPR-listening Nazi scum.

Posted by: Anon on December 17, 2007 at 2:47 PM | PERMALINK

Luckily, M Yglesias is bravely taking on the overwhelming tide of free-thinking rationalists threatening to destroy the country.

Posted by: Gore/Edwards 08 on December 17, 2007 at 2:49 PM | PERMALINK

Who the hell is Jonah Goldberg and why are the rest of us paying any attention to his juvenile drivel?

I'm serious who is Goldberg and what has he contributed to society?

I believe he's simply famous for being famous.

So was Za Za Gabor

Posted by: Russell Aboard M/V Sunshine on December 17, 2007 at 2:49 PM | PERMALINK

How telling that the "quintessential liberal fascist" is an educated woman.

Goldberg makes me sick.

Posted by: uri on December 17, 2007 at 2:50 PM | PERMALINK

How can someone be a "liberal fascist"? The two terms are as diametrically opposed and senseless together as "Catholic Jew".

Typical wingnut overkill. Use an inappropriate, overblown term to describe something that's merely a mild annoyance.

Posted by: Joshua Norton on December 17, 2007 at 2:53 PM | PERMALINK

Jonah is Mr. Bomb Canada. That in itself is enough to ensure fame for utter stupidity, arrogance, and insensitivity. May his book bomb resoundingly.

Posted by: anon on December 17, 2007 at 2:53 PM | PERMALINK

On the other hand, the typical conservative fascist is like a stormtrooper. Guess which one is more dangerous?

Posted by: Dantheman on December 17, 2007 at 2:54 PM | PERMALINK

My niece went to one of those toney schools on the Main Line. She married a farmer from Iowa and they live in Alaska, where he fishes for salmon. They're fundamentalist Republicans and name all their children after biblical characters.

Liberal stormtroopers fer shure.

Posted by: serial catowner on December 17, 2007 at 2:58 PM | PERMALINK

lol!
Alrighty, enough about Jonah and his perverse, self-indulgent mastabutory sex fantasies, lets talk about some serious stuff...like the self destruction of Rudy Giuliani, or Mitt "I'm emo" Romney self immolation...it's a beautiful day in America, now if we can get Dick "shotgun" Cheney lard butt out of the way, we might be able to see the light of day coming through the tunnel!

Posted by: sheerahkahn on December 17, 2007 at 2:58 PM | PERMALINK

Goldberg,like many idiots on the reichwing, confuse National Socialism with Socialism. National Socialism, the primary implementation of fascist dictatorship in the 20th century, was a right-wing fanatical movement. Rightwing due to its hatred of other, its gingoistic nationalism, its use of religious symbols to oppress others, its veneration of the authoritarian leader.

National Socialism has found its best descendent in Karl Rove.

Posted by: POed Lib on December 17, 2007 at 2:58 PM | PERMALINK

The problem with engaging Goldberg is that you can't debate someone who refuses to grow up.

Posted by: PapaJijo on December 17, 2007 at 2:59 PM | PERMALINK

He, AnnThrax Coulter, and Michelle obviously have to have slap fights for that thin slice of the ultra loony tunes right-wing audience that takes them seriously. Every statement they make has to be more outrageous than the last one.

Bread and circuses - nothing more. Then Dems get blamed for having to clean up the mess the repiggies leave behind.


Posted by: Joshua Norton on December 17, 2007 at 3:01 PM | PERMALINK

Our nation's schools would be in much better shape if more people who attended schools like Brown and Swarthmore decided to teach.

Posted by: (d)avid on December 17, 2007 at 3:03 PM | PERMALINK

I agree with Russell. Actually, the development of fascism, especially in its early phases, is a fascinating topic. When I looked into it just out of casual interest in the late eighties, really bright Brit historians were doing great original research practically Italian city by city. I hope the Iti historians got off their ideological asses in the meantime. The question still to be settled, I imagine, is where the recruits come from. No one had yet come up with a convincing model. In my opinion, it had a whole lot to do with US immigration policy, for closing the US borders by low quotas meant that would-be Italian emigrants ended up in regional Italian cities and had to find work. The local Ras took care of them. I think Mussolini saw this as his great strength. This Goldberg guy, though, is clueless, an embarrassment. What's his model of fascism? It can only come out of an economic/social order that is stifled. The uneducated right wing fit that model much more than liberals who can get jobs in the expanding knowledge economy.

Posted by: Bob M on December 17, 2007 at 3:07 PM | PERMALINK

I doubt many Brown or Swarthmore graduates are teaching grade school, anywhere.

I know he just wanted to combine his enemies into one hybrid (young PC woman, a "liberal" arts college, East Coast intellectuals (what is he pretending to be then?), and elementary school, teacher's-union-belongin', educator)... but just because you can imagine it, Mr. Doughy Pantload, doesn't make it so.

And he left out Birkenstock-wearing, tofu-eating, recycling-nazi.

Posted by: luci on December 17, 2007 at 3:07 PM | PERMALINK

Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning

Why are the fun stories about U.S. history always secret? You know, like the Illuminati and all that shit.

Posted by: RSA on December 17, 2007 at 3:08 PM | PERMALINK

The quintessential liberal fascist isn't an SS storm trooper; it is a female grade-school teacher with an education degree from Brown or Swarthmore.

And she's wearing high heels, a short skirt, tight bodice, a Nazi cap, and telling me I've been very very naughty.

Rowrrr!

Posted by: jerry on December 17, 2007 at 3:09 PM | PERMALINK

Mussolini was an American pol? Who knew? I missed seeing his monument in Little Italy, but I remember that Coulter called Jonah a girly-man. That must have stung coming as it did from an Ivy-League manly-girrrl.

Posted by: Mike on December 17, 2007 at 3:11 PM | PERMALINK

"What's his model of fascism?"

The same on as BO Reilly uses. It's what ever/who ever he's attacking at that particular moment. A more normal and intelligent person would use the term "annoying". The wing nut rage-aholics use the term "fascist" instead. They're obviously clueless to its real meaning.


Posted by: Joshua Norton on December 17, 2007 at 3:12 PM | PERMALINK

"he just wanted to combine his enemies into one hybrid"

Obviously a composite of every woman who ever turned him down.

Posted by: Joshua Norton on December 17, 2007 at 3:14 PM | PERMALINK

As a Haverford grad, I'd like to say Jonah's absolutely right about those people from Swarthmore.

Posted by: Jose Padilla on December 17, 2007 at 3:15 PM | PERMALINK

And she's wearing high heels, a short skirt, tight bodice, a Nazi cap, and telling me I've been very very naughty.

So you've met my wife? Well, she doesn't have the cap and didn't go to Brown, but other than that -- spot on. :)

Posted by: Morat20 on December 17, 2007 at 3:16 PM | PERMALINK

Joshua Norton: "He, AnnThrax Coulter, and Michelle obviously have to have slap fights for that thin slice of the ultra loony tunes right-wing audience that takes them seriously. Every statement they make has to be more outrageous than the last one."

Yeah, when you gotta pick a fight with female grade-school teachers, you're stooping pretty low.

Make me wonder, though, what well-educated, self-respecting grade-school teacher turned ol' Jonah down for a date? Boy, I'll bet she's having second thoughts now!


Posted by: bleh on December 17, 2007 at 3:19 PM | PERMALINK

The Amerin right makes up types of facism the way Ben and Jerry's makes up names of ice cream flavors.

You've got your "Islamo facists"; your "tree hugging facists"; your "gay agenda facists"; your "anti-Christian facists"; your basic "liberal facists."

It gets old.

Posted by: pj in jesusland on December 17, 2007 at 3:23 PM | PERMALINK

Ah, Goldberg's crack research skills at work again. Swarthmore doesn't even have a education degree. The education courses have to be taken along with some other field of study which is what you get your degree in.

Posted by: JeffH on December 17, 2007 at 3:24 PM | PERMALINK

We need to be sure all our grade school teachers come from the local Bible College. Everyone knows that at Brown and Swarthmore they goose-step to class, and the femi-nazis there refuse to go out with pasty rightwing pantloads.

Posted by: jimBOB on December 17, 2007 at 3:25 PM | PERMALINK

luci: he left out Birkenstock-wearing, tofu-eating, recycling-nazi.

And white-wine drinking, Volvo driving, Daily Show watching

Posted by: anandine on December 17, 2007 at 3:28 PM | PERMALINK

"Quite so. Up against the wall with all of 'em."

I find they're often more amenable to proposals for such role-playing games when you massage their feet for forty-five minutes first.

Posted by: s9 on December 17, 2007 at 3:30 PM | PERMALINK

Damn you Morat20! All I have is Herr Goegle.

Posted by: jerry on December 17, 2007 at 3:34 PM | PERMALINK

and there ya go, mouthbreathing fear of the scary vagina monster is all encompassing.

and the latimes provides column space for him.

Posted by: linda on December 17, 2007 at 3:37 PM | PERMALINK

Montessori Uber Alles!

Posted by: BruceMoomaw on December 17, 2007 at 3:38 PM | PERMALINK

The quintessential liberal fascist isn't an SS storm trooper; it is a female grade-school teacher with an education degree from Brown or Swarthmore.

Oooooh, scary! Mommy, hold me!

Posted by: Stefan on December 17, 2007 at 3:41 PM | PERMALINK

We will make the shoe stores open on time!

Posted by: Feminazi on December 17, 2007 at 3:42 PM | PERMALINK

Of course, looking back on the line-up of teachers I had in grammar school, I would have willing called a few of them fascists if I had known the word back then. I think they used old Mrs. Lurvey, our principal as a model for Professor Snape in the Harry Potter series.

Rumor had it that she kept a big stick with nails sticking out of it to spank the really bad kids.

Posted by: Joshua Norton on December 17, 2007 at 3:45 PM | PERMALINK

LOL. Thx, feminazi.

Posted by: Disputo on December 17, 2007 at 3:45 PM | PERMALINK

Professor Snape Thread!

I can haz potions?

Posted by: SnapeDay! on December 17, 2007 at 3:50 PM | PERMALINK

Well Jonah if you wanted to add some more boogyman to scare people, I think you should add librarians. This is what an FBI agent had to say:

"While radical militant librarians kick us around, true terrorists benefit from Office of Intelligence Policy and Review's failure to let us use the tools given to us"

Posted by: ET on December 17, 2007 at 3:54 PM | PERMALINK

JeffH wrote: "Ah, Goldberg's crack research skills at work again."

Well yeah, if he's doing his research on crack, that would explain a lot.

Posted by: SecularAnimist on December 17, 2007 at 4:03 PM | PERMALINK

Oooh, scary bluestockings!

Posted by: Emma Anne on December 17, 2007 at 4:04 PM | PERMALINK

(also posted at MY's blog)

The looniest, most right-wing piece-of-shit movement conservative I've ever had the displeasure of knowing was a Brown grad. We had to kick him off of Law Review because he spent all his time writing editorials for Newsmax and web-publishing video hissy fits about John Kerry instead of doing his work, and then he lied outrageously to try to cover up the fact that he did almost no work--he made up a story about being a religious orthodox Jew to get out of trouble for missing an assignment during the Jewish holiday season, but a quick Google search indicated he was at a winger event on Yom Kippur. He spent one of his summers in law school trying to 1) sue the New York Times for false advertising because of its motto "All the News That's Fit to Print" and 2) sue John Kerry for the return of his paycheck to Federal coffers because Kerry missed votes while campaigning. The work he did was, in fact, worse than no work--he completely forged the few assignments he bothered turning in, making the editorial staff do his work for him. He was a truly insane movement conservative with a bigger sense of entitlement than Jonah's.

I think he was the only person ever kicked off of Law Review at my school.

Posted by: R Johnston on December 17, 2007 at 4:06 PM | PERMALINK

A liberal, one who is not bound by authoritarianism, may find offense when given a quinta essentia label as one who abides by a political movement that exalts nation/race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic system (government) headed by a dictatorial leader.

Just who would a liberal fascist like to see as dictator?

Posted by: Tom Nicholson on December 17, 2007 at 4:09 PM | PERMALINK

"He was a truly insane movement conservative with a bigger sense of entitlement than Jonah's."

Hmmmm. For some reason, "potential Bush Supreme Court nominee" springs to mind.

Posted by: Joshua Norton on December 17, 2007 at 4:12 PM | PERMALINK

Douche bag uber alles!

Posted by: Stormtrooper in Stilettos on December 17, 2007 at 4:12 PM | PERMALINK

Won't Jonah's mommy start to whine if you keep picking on her little snookums?

Posted by: freelunch on December 17, 2007 at 4:14 PM | PERMALINK

Just who would a liberal fascist like to see as dictator?

Al Franken!

Jerry Brown!

Or how about Teresa Heinz Kerry?

Posted by: bleh on December 17, 2007 at 4:15 PM | PERMALINK

Al Franken? Good lord no. He talks so slow that the State of the Union address would probably last until mid-February.

The, um, gross national, uh, product is up about, ha-ha-ha, 2, um, is it 2?, no, 2.5 percent, I think. Well, anyway.....

Posted by: Joshua Norton on December 17, 2007 at 4:24 PM | PERMALINK

Right-wingers are just so psychologically transparent, aren't they?

Jonah Goldberg's archetypal villain is an elementary school teacher? Golly, I wonder if that reveals anything at all about his own school years...

Posted by: Quaker in a Basement on December 17, 2007 at 4:25 PM | PERMALINK

Jonah Goldberg's archetypal villain is an elementary school teacher? Golly, I wonder if that reveals anything at all about his own school years...

Was he home-schooled?

Posted by: freelunch on December 17, 2007 at 4:27 PM | PERMALINK

People love to bash Ezra Pound for liking Mussolini.

Posted by: Brojo on December 17, 2007 at 4:27 PM | PERMALINK

Can somebody gift wrap these comments and send them to Jonah for Christmas? Let him feel the love!

Posted by: tomeck on December 17, 2007 at 4:29 PM | PERMALINK

Wouldn't it be nice if parasites like Jonah Goldberg had to actually go out and get a flipping job on their own merits instead of relying on Mommy and Daddy Uber-Conservative? Flipping burgers at Wendy's doesn't leave you a hell of a lot of energy to write the kind of mindless drivel he does. Firstly, I'd love for Jonah to introduce me to a liberal fascist.

Posted by: Susan on December 17, 2007 at 4:31 PM | PERMALINK

R Johnston,

Please have your Brown grad friend forward his resume to me.

Your pal,

Jonah

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg on December 17, 2007 at 4:32 PM | PERMALINK

Silly Joshua. He's a dictator. There won't be any State of the Union address.

It's like those silly laws that Congress passes, that the Decider ignores because he issues a signing statement.

Jeez, where did you learn how to run a government? In Civics class?

Posted by: bleh on December 17, 2007 at 4:36 PM | PERMALINK
Al Franken? Good lord no. He talks so slow that the State of the Union address would probably last until mid-February.

Slightly off topic, but I've long felt that one of the things a candidate could do that would be most likely to get me to vote for him for President is to promise to go back to the old tradition of delivering the state of the union as a written document, not a speech. Even if it doesn't last until mid-February, a SotU speech is a colossal waste of time, nothing more than a substance-free, hour-long photo-op with free television coverage.

A written report to Congress is consitutionally sufficient for the SotU, and vastly more likely to be substantive than the spew we get now.

Posted by: R Johnston on December 17, 2007 at 4:48 PM | PERMALINK

it IS telling that a "female grade-school teacher with an education degree from Brown or Swarthmore" is what Jonah despises... this archetype is one associated with the beginning of feminism - women being educated at colleges, abandoning the standard role of upper class women of the time = entertainment for the men. How threatening for poor Jonah.
He needs to see a shrink r-e-a-l-l-y quick...

Posted by: cindy on December 17, 2007 at 4:51 PM | PERMALINK

'Jonah?'
'Grover?'

Do these nuts get their weird name from weird parents or do the weird names cause weird behavior in adults?

Really, are these guys foreigners or what?

Posted by: Tripp on December 17, 2007 at 4:51 PM | PERMALINK
"He was a truly insane movement conservative with a bigger sense of entitlement than Jonah's."

Hmmmm. For some reason, "potential Bush Supreme Court nominee" springs to mind.

Give him ten years or so and you might just be right. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see a loony President in the 2020s appoint him to the federal bench.

Did I mention that he also to this day lies on his resumé, indicating his Law Review membership without indicating his dismissal? The Bar admitted him anyway, which really pissed me off, but that's the sort of thing that should make him the perfect loony judicial nominee.

Posted by: R Johnston on December 17, 2007 at 4:55 PM | PERMALINK

Just who would a liberal fascist like to see as dictator?

Salute Fuehrer Al Gore! But he must be dictator of the WHOLE WORLD, not just the United States. I'm sure us liberal fascists won't have any trouble following his every command, given our signature love for authority, close-mindedness and dislike for exploring ideas.

Posted by: cowalker on December 17, 2007 at 4:58 PM | PERMALINK

They're fundamentalist Republicans and name all their children after biblical characters.

Jesus E. Jenkins?

Posted by: Doc at the Radar Station on December 17, 2007 at 5:01 PM | PERMALINK

"Up against the wall with all of 'em."

Of course, Goldberg doesn't propose or imply anything of the sort, does he?

Kevin's outright lie is an evasion designed to calm his audience lest they actually have their little bubbles pricked.

Posted by: c on December 17, 2007 at 5:14 PM | PERMALINK

The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning:

Funny, I never realized Mussolini was an American. Learn somethin everyday.

Posted by: DrBB on December 17, 2007 at 5:19 PM | PERMALINK

I'm a Brown grad who is male and teaches high school. Call me a semiquintessential liberal fascist.

Posted by: reino on December 17, 2007 at 5:27 PM | PERMALINK

Funniest Political Animal comment thread, evah!

I'm feeling a little verklempt here. But not so much I wouldn't like to know more about the Swarthmore domifuhrenmatrixes. Meine kleine Schatzi!

Posted by: trollhattan on December 17, 2007 at 5:30 PM | PERMALINK

"Of course, Goldberg doesn't propose or imply anything of the sort, does he?"

Dear heart, there's this little thing called "humor" that you might want to look into someday.

Posted by: PaulB on December 17, 2007 at 5:31 PM | PERMALINK

I'm rather late to the party, but can anyone provide any reason why I (or anyone) should pay any attention whatsoever to Jonah Goldberg? Every thing he utters is wingnuttia luncacy and is better off ignored for just that.

Posted by: E Henry Thripshaw on December 17, 2007 at 5:33 PM | PERMALINK

Goldberg thinks a totalitarian state is a good thing. Once again the kooks are accusing others of what they are actually all about. Even the conservatives disagree with him.

Posted by: Ya Know... on December 17, 2007 at 5:37 PM | PERMALINK

Perhaps I've missed it, but has the appropriately named "Jonah" ever appeared on "The Daily Show"? I'm sure we could get a small sum together to reward Stewart for the evisceration.

Posted by: Doug on December 17, 2007 at 5:39 PM | PERMALINK

Hm. Does anyone who's not a grade school student actually think grade school teachers (and female to boot) actually have any power in the real world?

Posted by: rabbit on December 17, 2007 at 5:53 PM | PERMALINK
I'm rather late to the party, but can anyone provide any reason why I (or anyone) should pay any attention whatsoever to Jonah Goldberg?

Well, there was an audience for the show Jackass. I imagine that paying attention to Jonah has the same sort of appeal. There's a place for low-brow car-wreck humor, and Jonah's got the genre down pat. There's not a person in this world who can't feel better about himself after pointing at Jonah and laughing.

Posted by: R Johnston on December 17, 2007 at 6:02 PM | PERMALINK

Finally, someone who recognizes the threat to the America(s)-all of them from Hudson's Bay to Tierra del Fuego-of that vile establishment in Swarthmore, Pa. The Kremlin on the Krum has been infecting the blood purity of America, sapping its life essence by training students to work hard at tearing down the edifice of state and erecting in its stead a fascist government.

Those Quakers have been up to no good these past 300 years and as if they weren't bad enough, that contumacious institution of Roger Smith's Providence has contributed to the moral laxity of the America we should all hold in high esteem. The despicable graduates of Fascist U. have worked alongside their fellow leftist extremists to sunder the shroud of decency and expose us all to the threat of Islamofascism.

Naturally, those two fascisms noted above are diametrically opposed one to the other but, well, they're all threats the liberals would have us cower before.

Arms to the people! Overthrow these vile wipers of other peoples' bottoms!

Posted by: TJM on December 17, 2007 at 6:19 PM | PERMALINK

Funny, I never realized Mussolini was an American. Learn somethin everyday.

That was part of the secret. Goldberg can't keep his mouth shut.

Posted by: AJ on December 17, 2007 at 6:24 PM | PERMALINK

As a 4th grade teacher who went to Swarthmore, I can confirm that I am, indeed, a fascist. I don't let those kids go to the bathroom. Ever.

Posted by: hoedeman on December 17, 2007 at 6:28 PM | PERMALINK

"I'm rather late to the party, but can anyone provide any reason why I (or anyone) should pay any attention whatsoever to Jonah Goldberg?"

Jonah Goldberg writes a syndicated column that is carried in respectable newspapers, including the newspaper that gets delivered to my house (the Chicago Tribune). If you want to understand why our electorate does such a poor job, one of the questions you might want to ask is why Mr. Goldberg is given a platform while several decent human beings with functioning brains are not.

Posted by: reino on December 17, 2007 at 6:58 PM | PERMALINK

So the war in Vietnam was lost on the kindergarten school playgrounds of Pennsylvania?

Posted by: gregor on December 17, 2007 at 7:19 PM | PERMALINK

Is he STILL writing that book? I thought he'd finished it last year.

How slow does he write?

Posted by: MNPundit on December 17, 2007 at 7:24 PM | PERMALINK

"The quintessential liberal fascist isn't an SS storm trooper; it is a female grade-school teacher with an education degree from Brown or Swarthmore."

isn't that the sort of rhetoric that the Khmer Rouge used to wipe out anyone with a semblance of an education?

just askin'...

Posted by: jvf on December 17, 2007 at 7:44 PM | PERMALINK

isn't that the sort of rhetoric that the Khmer Rouge used to wipe out anyone with a semblance of an education?

Well, if libs are fascists, that would indeed make wingnuts commies.

Posted by: Disputo on December 17, 2007 at 8:31 PM | PERMALINK

As a Swarthmore grad--though not a female grade school teacher--I am proud that my alma mater can still rile up the wingnutosphere. Personally, I thought we'd sold out a while back, maybe there's still hope.

Posted by: wyend on December 17, 2007 at 8:42 PM | PERMALINK

From Swat's website:

http://legacy.swarthmore.edu/academics/course_catalog/education.html
"There is no major in educational studies"

Kudos to Doughy's crack research.

Posted by: Econ@MIT on December 17, 2007 at 9:11 PM | PERMALINK

Boy, he's spot-on about my wife. Her Brown degree is mathematics, not education, and she taught grad school, not grade school, but she's always been quintessential to me.

Posted by: Bob Munck on December 17, 2007 at 9:20 PM | PERMALINK

"Liberal fascism"?

The Scholastics distinguished a kind of adjective they called alienans, or "estranging," because it estranges a thing from the kind it seems to be named as belonging to. "Near" in "near victory," for example, does not characterize a victory or carve out some special class of "near victories" within the larger class of victories: a near victory is a defeat, or at best a draw, no victory at all.

"Liberal fascism," then, would be either not fascism or not liberal -- if it weren't just RW cant.

Posted by: Dabodius on December 17, 2007 at 9:23 PM | PERMALINK

AJ: "Goldberg can't keep his mouth shut."

Especially when he's on his knees.

Posted by: Donald from Hawaii on December 17, 2007 at 9:32 PM | PERMALINK

Jonah's Olympian disdain is well founded--look at his own alma mater:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goucher_College

He seems to be pursuing the Master's in Creative Non-Fiction as well.

Posted by: Steve Paradis on December 17, 2007 at 9:33 PM | PERMALINK

DrBB: "Funny, I never realized Mussolini was an American."

If you read Goldberg's tome, you'll probably also learn that Salvatore "Lucky" Luciano was a founding member of the American Civil Liberties Union.

Posted by: Donald from Hawaii on December 17, 2007 at 9:42 PM | PERMALINK

Grade-school teacher with a Swarthmore degree? I was pleased to have high school Spanish teachers with degrees from Middlebury and Bryn Mawr, but I don't recall reading anything more subversive than Miguel de Unamuno. Not that reading him helped me get into Swarthmore.

Posted by: David Martin on December 17, 2007 at 10:07 PM | PERMALINK

Dedicating your life to teaching grade school is a heck of a lot harder than anything Jonah Goldberg has ever done. It's also a greater contribution to a better society.

By the way, several of my friends from one of the named liberal fascist liberal arts colleges did grow up to be grade and high school teachers. So there are a few liberals out there pulling their weight.

Posted by: Ben on December 17, 2007 at 10:33 PM | PERMALINK

so how does Lowrey enjoy being associated with him, Krisol and the rest.... any self respect remaing in that crowd?

Don't they have family or freinds to say ENOUGH!!

Posted by: dan on December 17, 2007 at 10:50 PM | PERMALINK

Hail to thee, our alma mater,
Hail, all hail Swarthmore!

w00t!

Posted by: IdahoEv on December 17, 2007 at 11:24 PM | PERMALINK

We are ever true to Brown,
And we love our college dear...

Posted by: reino on December 18, 2007 at 5:49 AM | PERMALINK
Dedicating your life to teaching grade school is a heck of a lot harder than anything Jonah Goldberg has ever done. It's also a greater contribution to a better society.

The same could be said for dedicating your life to masturbating and eating Cheetoes all day, which would also offer a far more precise limitation on Jonah's efforts and usefulness.

Posted by: R Johnston on December 18, 2007 at 9:41 AM | PERMALINK

As Jon Stewart once said, if the next generation has its smiling picture taken with tortured prisoners but doesn't give the thumbs up sign, it will be an improvement.

Posted by: reino on December 18, 2007 at 11:21 AM | PERMALINK
....Jonah Goldberg had to actually go out and get a flipping job on their own merits instead of relying on Mommy and Daddy... Susan at 4:31 PM
If big momma Lucienne [or Lucianne Goldberg: Lucianneg@aol.com] had named Jonah after his daddy, he would be known as Lucky Stranger. Posted by: Mike on December 18, 2007 at 11:55 AM | PERMALINK

Dedicating your life to teaching grade school is a heck of a lot harder than anything Jonah Goldberg has ever done. It's also a greater contribution to a better society.

The same could be said for dedicating your life to masturbating and eating Cheetoes all day, which would also offer a far more precise limitation on Jonah's efforts and usefulness.
Posted by: R Johnston

but at least jonah would be good at that.

your pal,
blake

Posted by: blake on December 18, 2007 at 8:39 PM | PERMALINK


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